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Gerry Webster

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« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2009, 09:25:03 AM »
Anthony - I'm planning to get a bulb or two of N. dubius this year so I've trying to find out something about it. According to John Blanchard, it only flowers after a thorough baking during the summer. So, I'm planning to treat it as I do Sternbergia. How do you grow it?
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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2009, 09:34:42 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on March 03, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
Quote from: BULBISSIME on March 03, 2009, 10:40:09 PM
and,.... something readable ??  ;D
a monograph !
Fred - the only monograph I know is Narcissus: A Guide To Wild Daffodils by John W Blanchard. This was published by the Alpine Garden Society in 1990. I'm not aware of anything more recent.

This is a super book which has lots of good information and some excellent photographs. Blanchard was clearly sceptical about the numerous new species being named by Spanish botanists at the time it was written and with the splitters having been hard at work since it is not really adequate now as a reference book.

Gerry,I can scan the page for you if you would like it.
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« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2009, 09:39:16 AM »
Gerry, I should have seeds of N. dubius and I think some bulblets, so if you can wait untill summer, just remind me  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2009, 09:45:41 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on March 04, 2009, 09:25:03 AM
Anthony - I'm planning to get a bulb or two of N. dubius this year so I've trying to find out something about it. According to John Blanchard, it only flowers after a thorough baking during the summer. So, I'm planning to treat it as I do Sternbergia. How do you grow it?
I grow it like my sternbergias in the greenhouse, but reckon last summer I'd have needed to put them in the oven to bake them. ::)
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« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2009, 10:10:39 AM »
Quote from: Tony Willis on March 04, 2009, 09:34:42 AM

Gerry,I can scan the page for you if you would like it.

Tony - Many thanks for the offer. I'm sorry, but I don't know to which page you are referring.
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« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2009, 10:12:55 AM »
Quote from: BULBISSIME on March 04, 2009, 09:39:16 AM
Gerry, I should have seeds of N. dubius and I think some bulblets, so if you can wait untill summer, just remind me  ;D
Fred - many thanks for the offer. I'm certainly interested in the bulblets (I'm getting too old to start from seed!).
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« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2009, 10:27:56 AM »
Narcissus fernandesii
N. jonquilla var. henriquesii (apologies for poor focus)
henriquesii (left) & fernandesii (right)

Although they are sometimes sunk together the differences are striking , at least in these forms from Brian Duncan under my growing conditions.  Relative to fernandesii, jonquilla var. henriquesii is:

Earlier by 1-2 weeks
Taller (20+ cm v. 15 cm)
More slender in leaf & stipe
Smaller & fewer florets (1-2 v. 3-5)
Non-overlapping tepals
(Slightly) shorter corona

Scent of each has a musky undertone, indistinguishable to me (& not entirely pleasant at close quarters!).
Both are new to me and I like them very much. 
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« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2009, 11:05:21 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on March 04, 2009, 10:10:39 AM
Quote from: Tony Willis on March 04, 2009, 09:34:42 AM

Gerry,I can scan the page for you if you would like it.

Tony - Many thanks for the offer. I'm sorry, but I don't know to which page you are referring.

Gerry the page in the narcissus book relating to Narcissus dubius
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« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2009, 01:53:55 PM »
Quote from: Tony Willis on March 04, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
Quote from: Gerry Webster on March 04, 2009, 10:10:39 AM
Quote from: Tony Willis on March 04, 2009, 09:34:42 AM
Gerry,I can scan the page for you if you would like it.
Tony - Many thanks for the offer. I'm sorry, but I don't know to which page you are referring.
Gerry the page in the narcissus book relating to Narcissus dubius
Tony - many thanks but I own Blanchard's book. And I agree with you that it is very good, even if slightly dated.
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« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2009, 03:44:03 PM »
Here's one that must qualify for the longest label ever! Now, have I got this right? Narcissus romieuxii ssp mesatlanticus x bulbocodium forma 'Anne' from, and you guessed right-Anne Wright, and a pretty little thing.



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« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2009, 03:54:44 PM »
Nice one David - Have you not thought of renaming it into Narcissus "Anne" - would save you a lot of work writing labels...  ::)
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« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2009, 04:29:51 PM »
That's exactly what I have written on the label Luc but decided to give it it's full title here in case the shortened version prompted lots of Forumists to advise me 'Oh no it isn't, this is what it is...........................................................'  ;D
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« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2009, 07:08:19 PM »
Actually, you missed a bit!  It's Narcissus romieuxii var mesatlanticus x N. bulbocodium forma filifolius 'Tockwith Anne' (the cultivar name Anne was already taken, so the raiser put in the extra bit). Hopeless trying to fit it on a 4" label.  :-X
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« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2009, 07:38:05 PM »
Anne,
Are hybrids between bulbocodium and romieuxi daffodils infertile?
This was stated by Michael Salmon, if I remember right.
I hope you know it because of your breeding activities with N. romieuxii var. x N. bulbocodium forma .....

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« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2009, 11:07:29 PM »
And as you say David Anne is a pretty little thing. So is 'Tockwith Anne'  :D
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