Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere

[Regelian]

Pat,

the only plant that comes to mind is I. camillae, which would be a wonderfull surprise!  I take it your seed was collected in the trans caucasus area.  Both I. camillae and I iberica are found growing together, but I've found no reference to I. paradoxa with other plants, which must occur. The following species have been reported from Russia, but this is a big country.

    I. acutiloba C.A Mey.
    I. camillae Grossh.
    I. ewbankiana Foster
    I. grossheimii Woronow ex Grossh.
    I. helena C. Koch (C. Koch)
    I. iberica Hoffm.
    I. lycotis Woronow
    I. paradoxa Steven
    I. schelkownikowii (Fomin) Fomin

Hope this helps, but i suspect the answer will be forthcoming in the next week.

Jamie

[Hans A.]

Pat, you could try to self it. Results will not be fantastic but maybe you will get a few seeds.

Of the large list Jamie posted most can be discarded because of the size of the plant (similar to the size of paradoxa or smaller) - only Iris lycotis and Iris iberica are the two species which are normally bigger and do not have such sickle shaped leaves (most of the mentioned smaller species also have sickle shaped leaves)- but who knows, as Jamie mentioned, Russia is a big country.

[arillady]

Brian I tried to copy and paste or print this article and I wasn't allowed to. Would love to so that I can refer to it when trying it. I will just have to save the page link and refer to it that way when next I try it.

[arillady]

Thanks Brian for that link - I forgot to thank you in my excitement!
I have saved the link for future.

Thanks Jamie for the list but I have a feeling it is not in the Onco group of irises and might even be some other bulb or Iridacea altogether. There is a part on the flowering stem that I don't know what it is called but I have not seen it on oncos. The flowering stem seems familiar and I will possibly be red faced when it flowers. As Hans says it tall and I grow camillae so I know that is far smaller - even to paradoxa in leaf size.
By the way Iris kirkwoodii is about a foot high without going up the hill again. From the ground to the tippy top of the flower. Or a touch taller. Tried a few more photos this afternoon that I will download later.

[arillady]

Two more photos of Iris kirkwoodii - then I will give it a rest!

Edit : to show kirkwoodii  is  listed as   Iris kirkwoodiae Chaudhary

[BULBISSIME]

Simply superb Pat 

[Ragged Robin]

Brian I tried to copy and paste or print this article and I wasn't allowed to. Would love to so that I can refer to it when trying it. I will just have to save the page link and refer to it that way when next I try it.

Pat you could try print screen and paste from clipboard into new file, then crop in Photoshop and then print - I use this quite a lot when only a para or just choosing sections.

[Brian Ellis]

Sent to your email Pat  

[arillady]

Thanks for the helpful suggestions folks.
There is a nice bud developing on a new Iris paradoxa from Marcus this year.
Also at least 8 seed pods on the Iris planifolia I showed earlier this year.
Only a few more arils thinking about flowering as the arilbreds start their bloom season.

[Hans A.]

  agree with fred - superb!

[Paul T]

Pat,

If all else fails, try photographing your screen, then editing the picture etc for printing.  Sounds like a long process, but if you can't get it to print and you aren't able to capture it by printscreen, then taking a pic of the screen is always another option.

[arillady]

I had not checked the arils for a day or two so I was delighted when I saw:
Iris paradoxa ex Alan McMurtrie seed
Iris paradoxa ssp choschab Ruksans ex Marcus Harvey 2009
and the rhizome that was believed to be Iris susiana from a lady in Mt Gambier in South Australia which seems to be an older arilbred.

[Paul T]

Pat,

The Iris paradoxa ssp choschab in particular is beautiful.  A shame the last one isn't the real susiana.  I remember you mentioning a while ago that you were hoping it was as it has gone from commerce.

[Hans A.]

Beautiful plants, Pat - a pitty the names do not fit.
First and also second paradoxa seem to be Iris sari from Turkey - possibly second one could be a hybrid with paradoxa var. choschab. If you are interested I will check if have some seeds of the varities left I could send you.
Best,
Hans

[arillady]

Ah well Hans at least they are arils - I do not mind them being Iris sari at all - you can see I have not flowered any of these before or I would have had time to check that they were correct. Just seeing these in flower for the first time was good enough for me.
I would LOVE some seed please Hans.
Three wrong plants in one post - do I get the prize???