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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2007, 09:44:57 AM »
The Errol Cosh clone is the most widely distributed here in OZ, because it off-sets prolifically. My off-set was a couple of years old when I was given it back in '03. It would have flowered faster if I hadn't neglected it almost totally (Holy Grail or not, I think it looks ugly). Late autumn I move it onto an open patio; the light there is good and it continues to grow over the winter, watered when I remember it.

If you read the link I provided before, you'll see that Gary found that, given a deep pot and an extremely free-draining medium, the amount of water was not an issue. Gary was & is a better plantsman than I'll ever be; the only thing I could possibly add is that I suspect it can take temps lower than 4C if they are transient.
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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2007, 12:30:58 PM »
Thanks for a lot of useful info Rob :)
Ugly or not it is a bit different from other Amaryllids! You do grow a lot of interesting bulbs there in OZ, do you know anyone growing Paramongaia? (Second plant on Holy Grail list).

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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2007, 12:34:13 PM »
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Paramongaia
???
Never heard of it! I'm off to look it up!

OOH! It's a huge Peruvian daffodill flower!! Lovely!
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Paramongaia?version=20
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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 06:35:45 PM »
Hi Peak ,

There is one nursery in England ( tomorrow plants ) who sell ( after the list )
Paramongaia .
They also sell Pamianthe ( = Nr. 3 )
I have written to the owner in January for Paramongaia -but I got never any answer until now .
Strange..... ???

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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 08:23:01 PM »
Hi Hans,
yes a bit strange that you have not received a reply. I know that Gothenburg botanic garden have done some shopping from them, so they should be reliable.
Griffinia and Phaedranassa number 4 and 5?

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2007, 08:37:01 PM »
Hi Peak ,

It is interesting with Paramongaia :
There exist a wintergrowing and summergrowing form -I would be only interestet for this summergrowing form.
I have heard this is normal for this nursery to answer not or late - but I like such practical not .
With the next numbers is it difficould :
There are a lot in the same : Eucrosia, Eucharis ,Eustephia,Griffinia, Eithea,Stenomesson,Urceolina,Phaedranassa  ....
Is it possibly to buy anything from Gothenburg ?

Before 2 weeks I had flowers on my Eithea -what a beauty !

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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 08:41:33 PM »
I think Paramongaia was one of the suggestions for Dave Toole's mystery bulb a while back. We never did solve that one did we?
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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2007, 08:51:50 PM »
Very intersting Hans, I know that there are some South African bulbs that have both summer and winter growing clones (Boophone), but this is new to me for South America! You are right there are a lot of goodies to choose from :)
And then we have the more hardy Lycoris and Ungernia, the last one impossible to get hold of :(
I had only known Eithea as a name, now I have seen pictures at the net, you are right it must be a beauty :D
I think it is hard to buy from Gothenburg, I know they have plant sales twice yearly, but there are probably no rare bulbs offered.

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2007, 09:00:51 PM »
Peak ,

Please look here :
http://www.bulbsociety.org/About_Bulbs/LIVING_JEWELS/HIPPBLUMENAVIA.htmL
or
http://www.bulbsociety.org/GALLERY_OF_THE_WORLDS_BULBS/GRAPHICS/Griffiniopsis/Griffiniopsis_blumenavium/Griffiniopsis_blumenavium.html
The problem is this plants are listet under different names: Hippeastrum ,Griffinia, Griffinopsis ,Eithea .
Yes -Ungernia is really a seroius problem
Nice are also Traubia ,Rhodophiala, Phycella ,Hippeastrum.....
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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2007, 09:08:31 PM »
I can't find any posting about Daves bulb, where is it?

As a matter of fact I think you look very much alike one of my girlfriends from the seventies Lesley. She later became covergirl of Vogue magazine and married a famous American movie star.
And now for these very rare NZ seeds we spoke about.....
 :D

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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2007, 09:11:43 PM »
I think Paramongaia was one of the suggestions for Dave Toole's mystery bulb a while back. We never did solve that one did we?

Hi Lesley ,

I have asked in this time a friend who grow Paramongaia if this could be -he told me this must be a other plant .

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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2007, 09:14:20 PM »
Thans for the links Hans, indeed a very beautiful plant :D
We also have Rauhia, I have tried to sow it several times with seeds from this source in Germany
http://www.koehres-kaktus.de/index1.htm
never a single one have germinated :(

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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2007, 09:34:55 PM »
Hi Peak

I know Koehres since 30 years ( I collect since a long time Cacti )- I have also tried to order from him this seeds of Rauhia - you can forget it - they are old and many are broken - nothing comes up too .
It exist a seedseller in Peru who also have this seeds -I think he is the source of Koehres .
Prof. Werner Rauh was the former leader of the B.G. Heidelberg - and I have heard erlier lections from him about Cacti - very interesting .

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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2007, 11:00:18 PM »
Per-Ake, you've made my day. Any rare seeds you want, just say, they're yours! Don't know that I'd want the famous American movie star. Depends which one.
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Re: Tulipomania nouveau?
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2008, 02:29:34 AM »
I have been offered to buy 5 seeds of the "holy grail" of Amaryllidaceae Worsleya procera the blue Hippestraum from Brazil.

Per-Åke, a year and a half have passed since you made that post. How did it turn out?

I acquired seeds of Worsleya in the autumn of 2007; my seedlings now have bulbs about the size of a hazelnut.

I noticed that some concern was expressed in subsequent postings on this topic about the cold tolerance of Worsleya. I've read that overnight frosts are not unknown in the plant's native habitat.

My seeds were bought for US$2-3 each; they gave very good results.
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