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Catwheazle

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unknown lilia
« on: August 10, 2021, 03:45:06 PM »
Please help me to identify.
The plant should be a true species from China, but ..... )
I think it is probably  L. henryi or L. leichtlinii var. maximowiczii ???
I tried it with the identification key from e-flora china, from now on I can't and don't want to dig up the onion :-(
by the way: the flower had real "warts" on the inside
Thanks for help.
Bernd







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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2021, 09:06:59 PM »
Hi Bernd, definitely not henryi, that has broader leaves and rather pale orange flowers. It could be leichtlinii but is different to the form I am familiar with (leaves are narrower and generally less robust).

The narrow grassy foliage makes me think L. pumilum, but I think that is usually unspotted. Maybe a hybrid?

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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2021, 07:58:06 PM »
Thanks Tristan_He, I can't rule out a hybrid. Unfortunately I have not received any feedback on any platform except from you. It seems to be very difficult with the lilies?
I hope that maybe someone else from the department will post their thoughts here :-)
Warm greetings
Bernd
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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2021, 08:38:10 PM »
You're welcome Bernd. There is quite a useful online key here:

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=118558#KEY-1-47

Other one it might be is L. davidii?

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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2021, 12:32:32 PM »
Hi Bernd,
I agree with Tristan, If this is a species, then L. davidii is most likely. There are many different forms of that species but both flower and foliage broadly align there. In reality, it is more likely a hybrid. L. davidii hybridizes readily and there are many out there. Many would be greater than 75% L. davidii.
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Neil Jordan
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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2021, 09:46:30 PM »
I think Neil is right - L. davidii, or a  a hybrid of davidii .  Davifii does indeed have raised spots on the petals. I grew seed wild collected in Yamanashi prefecture, labeled as L. leichtlinii v maximowiczii.  The spots and pattern was somehow distinctive.  Honestly, I wouldn't know if these are the real thing or not.









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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2021, 09:53:24 PM »
And these are what is available here in the USA  as v maximowiczii that my friend grows.  They are much more robust, 60-80cm high, with wider, very shiny foliage.



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Re: unknown lilia
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2021, 03:31:45 PM »
Thanks to all . Had helped me  ;D
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