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Cfred72

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Identification of seeds Erythronium
« on: January 24, 2017, 05:28:57 PM »
Hello, could you give me your precious opinion I received two sachets of seeds named Erythronium dens-canis. According to the excellent publication of Ian Young, I think the first photo is dens-canis. The second picture is something else I think. What do you think ?

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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2017, 07:01:59 PM »
First ones  - E. dens-canis 100%.
Second - they look so dry that's hard to say, maybe hydrate them and the shape will be more clear. Not impossible to be from an E. oregonum - but this is just speculation.
Are they seeds of this year?
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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2017, 07:46:32 PM »
I hope they are fresh. I received them this morning from the SRGC exchange. However, neither color nor shape (more elaiosome on one and not the other) They are rehydrating. I make a picture tomorrow.  ;)
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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2017, 08:32:27 PM »
Second  lot seem to have a bit of mould, Fred. Perhaps a soak and then some rinsing will reduce it.  With luck the mould is only on the outer coat of the seed and has not breached into the  embryo.  Hard to tell what they are.
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Cfred72

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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 03:30:04 PM »
The seeds are rehydrated. Here are the ones I doubt to be Erythronium dens-canis.
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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 12:27:49 AM »
Is hard to say Fred. Some have that pointed end like dens-canis.
There can be surprises from seedex, so the waiting will be even more exciting :D
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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 03:27:07 AM »
Not impossible to be from an E. oregonum - but this is just speculation.

Our Western erythronium seeds do not have elaisomes.

You have a generous amount of whatever it is.  Let's hope it's lovely.
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Re: Identification of seeds Erythronium
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 04:08:17 AM »
Yes, anyway, I'm not too worried. I like surprises. Anyway, when they arrive at the first flower, it can feed the subject "identification".
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