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Re: Violets / Violas
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2015, 03:41:19 AM »
Gerd,

I like the Viola spathulata. Being from Iran, might it take our California summer heat? or maybe it is from the mountains. Things for me to research.

Thanks for sharing the photographs.
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Re: Violets / Violas
« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2015, 10:09:15 AM »

I think this is a Culpeo and probably the same species as the jaw belongs to.


   Bigger teeth than a Scottish fox - what sort of height wold it be (alive)?
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« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2015, 11:14:10 AM »
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I think it is about as big as a schäfer dog.
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Re: Violets / Violas
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2015, 11:19:52 AM »
Maggi,

I think it is about as big as a schäfer dog.

 So, taking German Shepherd dog average size - about 35-40 kilos     
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« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2015, 11:43:08 AM »
So, taking German Shepherd dog average size - about 35-40 kilos

Wikipedia say 5-13.5 kg, so maybe mid-dog sized.  I've never seen one though. 
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« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2015, 11:46:29 AM »
I've not seen any alive but the dead one looked as big s a big dog but I didn't measure it!

So maybe a bit smaller than I said.
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Re: Violets / Violas
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2015, 11:51:15 AM »
The next Argentinian violet is Viola coronaria, maybe the showiest one we saw. I've also included some of the companion plants.





The ridge where they grow








Valeriana moyanoi
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« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2015, 11:55:21 AM »


Calandrinia skottsbergii






Montiopsis gayana




Ourisia fragrans


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« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2015, 12:04:24 PM »
Spectacular V. coronifera Trond, living up to its name.
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Re: Violets / Violas
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2015, 12:23:22 PM »
Spectacular V. coronifera Trond, living up to its name.

--- indeed - the most beautiful of the andiniums. What a pity that cultivation seems soooo difficult!

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« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2015, 12:56:49 PM »
Gerd,

I like the Viola spathulata. Being from Iran, might it take our California summer heat? or maybe it is from the mountains. Things for me to research.

Thanks for sharing the photographs.

You are welcome!
Viola spathulata comes from the Elburz Mountains - Northern Iran (about 2000 m), growing in shady positions. I believe it will be able to resist heat but I fear not prolonged drought because being more or less evergreen it lacks the adaptions to dry periods as Viola trinervata has for instance.

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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2015, 01:16:01 PM »
Here is another South American violet with yellow flowers - member of Section Chilenium

Viola magellanica - originally from Perito Moreno, Argentina

and Viola cornuta - it seems not the real wild growing species but very near to that and seeding around

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« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2015, 08:41:54 PM »
Both are very nice, Gerd.

V magellanica looks very similar to those we found in Argentina but which weren't that species!
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2015, 09:45:38 AM »
Thank you Trond!
I took the species mentioned above for magellanica because of its origin and it is mentioned for the region.
Vv. reichei, maculata, magellanica are a tricky matter, until today I had no paper with a  suitable key to
differentiate between eachother.

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Re: Violets / Violas
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2015, 10:02:49 AM »
Gerd, I don't say you are wrong! Because I don't know. The names I used were provided by others ;) And from pictures I've seen they look very similar.
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