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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2014, 07:47:33 AM »
Very nice collection of species Helleborus. :)

I have only one flowering age species plant, and it is one which I have bought with the name H.orientalis ssp abhasicus. It is the first to flower and it already had big flower buds when the winter came. I have covered the plant, buds and all, with dry oak leaves and they are now under the snow, but I am positive, it will start to flower as soon as the snow melts away.
This is an older picture, and I was wondering if anyone can confirm that it is ssp abhasicus, not purpurascens or something else, because I'm not sure of what it is.
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2014, 11:08:47 AM »
yes it is H.torq.'Stripey', years ago I bought it from Washfield Nursery
here 2 others from Elisabeth Strangman:

Hi Chris very nice torquatus type doubles do they have names? I bought some similar from another nursery who bought theirs from Washfield and occasionally they do well in the garden though are inclined to growth at odd times which can spoil the display.

Good to see your plants again :)


Leena very nice I raised  some of these from Will McLewin seed they are nice plants from a place not easy to access these days
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2014, 11:18:38 AM »
I have added the photo file names to the text of all Cris' posts. :)
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2014, 03:59:42 PM »
thank you Maggi, I will remember for next time
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2014, 04:10:55 PM »
thank you Maggi, I will remember for next time
My pleasure to  have the chance to  see more of  your plants, Chris   :)
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2014, 04:40:33 PM »
Helleborus x sternii 'Blackthorn Strain'
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2014, 04:50:01 PM »
Leena - I haven't grown ssp. abchasicus but your plant has all the right characteristics - deep purple colour and very early flowering. A super looking plant to look forward to when the snow clears!
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2014, 04:53:33 PM »
Here's one I saw in the Picos de Europa in June 2010. Can anyone identify? The local expert, Teresa Farino, says Helleborus foetidus, but I suspect it may be H. occidentalis.
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2014, 06:39:27 PM »
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2014, 06:41:13 PM »
Here's one I saw in the Picos de Europa in June 2010. Can anyone identify? The local expert, Teresa Farino, says Helleborus foetidus, but I suspect it may be H. occidentalis.

That is definitely H. foetidus, Ralph.

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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2014, 06:43:25 PM »
Yes, Tom Mitchell says so as well. That'll teach me to question an expert!
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2014, 07:07:41 AM »
Leena - I haven't grown ssp. abchasicus but your plant has all the right characteristics - deep purple colour and very early flowering. A super looking plant to look forward to when the snow clears!

Thank you Ian and Tim for confirming that it is  Helleborus ssp abhasicus. :) I love the hybrid hellebores but there is something about the true species (of any plants)!
It is characteristic to it that it's leaves don't stay so good over the winter as x hybridus leaves, and if there is very cold weather without snow, then the leaves go black.
It flowers so early that in some years I haven't gotten any seeds from it (I think it is because of frosts during flowering time.. and no pollinators), but last year I got seeds which are now sown, and I have also one seedling from few years back. I grow it away from my H x hybridus, but of course there is a chance of bees going back and forth.  :) But I hope at least the first flowers of this plant are pollinated by itself.
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2014, 11:48:44 AM »
Hoping to get to Rodney Davey's nursery before the end of the season

http://www.independent.co.uk/property/gardening/deep-purple-there-are-hellebores--and-then-there-are-rodney-daveys-hellebores-6940785.html
Funny you should write that, David. Taken this morning:
Helleborus Penny's Pink (Rodney Davey Marbled Group)
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2014, 01:52:35 PM »
From what I have read Anne he has some lovely stuff. Here's his 'Anna's Red', from the same Marbled Group, and named for Anna Pavord, taken at Rosemoor last February. Wonder if it will ever be dry enough to go again?
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Re: Helleborus 2014
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2014, 02:21:12 PM »
Hmm, wonder what Beth Chatto's Dry Garden is like just now. Last time we went it threw it down the whole day. We almost asked for our money back.
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