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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: shelagh on October 07, 2012, 04:48:06 PM
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At Loughborough Show yesterday were 2 beautiful Nerines.
Nerine masoniorum has always been my favourite although we lost our pot a couple of years ago but N. filamentosa was new to me and has to go on my wish list too.
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Lovely pots of Nerines, Shelagh - I see why they took your eye.
P.S. Moving this thread to Amaryllidaceae section
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Shelagh me and at least one other person i know admired the same plants,the masoniorum was just incredible.
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Oh I can add a nice Nerine picture, not sure what variety it is though.
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Glorious pictures, don't these plants light up the gardens at this time of year. There is a little terraced house near us in Radcliffe which has nothing at all in the garden all year until autumn when it has a huge clump of Nerines and they always catch my eye as I drive past. I'm tempted to get out my spade.......
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Nerine filamentosa and N. filifolia (said by some experts to be the same species) are very reliable bloomer for me in pots. On the other hand, N. masoniorum rarely blooms for me, which I find very frustrating. N. angustifolia is another small nerine that blooms reliably in a pot for me.
No nerines survive to bloom outdoors in my area (Indiana, USA). They all have to spend the winter here under glass with heat.
Jim
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No Nerines survive to bloom in my garden either but here I think it's the wet that does it.
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Must write all these names down and look closely at the SRGC Seed list when it comes out. :D
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I would also love to grow N.masoniorum. ;)
Does Nerine seed germinate OK if it is not absolutely fresh though?? ???
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Ron - like many South African Amaryllids, the few I have grown have fleshy seeds designed to germinate immediately (sometimes whilst still on the plant) and which won't tolerate dry storage.
Ron and Shelagh - I just split a large overcrowded pot of masoniorum and would be happy to send you a clump each if you PM your address.
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Ron - like many South African Amaryllids, the few I have grown have fleshy seeds designed to germinate immediately (sometimes whilst still on the plant) and which won't tolerate dry storage.
Thank you so much for this information Darren. 8) DaveyP has told me much the same thing about the species he grows. 8) So it would seem that if we wish to acquire these Nerine sp. we really can't use the seed lists. I probably would have bought dried seeds ( and failed ) if you hadn't mentioned it, ;D
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As always, Darren is so generous.
Nn. masoniorum, filifolia and filamentosa are described as SE. This is, foliage evergreen but new growth and flowers develop during the warm season.
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Ron - some of the South African seed suppliers (Silverhill for example) will send out freshly harvested Amaryllid seed if you let them know of your interest.
As Alberto says - masoniorum is effectively evergreen but takes a rest in the winter. Mine is not so evergreen this year after a snail mowed the whole pot flat to the soil in two days back in August. This is why I split it - I was going to get no flowers this year anyway >:(
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Must write all these names down and look closely at the SRGC Seed list when it comes out. :D
These Nerine seeds are all "recalcitrant" -- germinating immediately, not able to go dormant. Remind me next July to make some seeds of filifolia, filamentosa, and angustifolia, if you are still interested; then you can get them fresh!
As mentioned before, my masoniorum tend not to bloom. Fortunately the others do bloom reliably for me most years.
Jim
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Jim, do they offset like mad?
Second, are the bulbs buried or exposed?
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Good question Alberto. Will be interested to hear Jim's answer.
My own masoniorum does flower OK but also offsets a lot and eventually gets overcrowded (and stops flowering when it does). My bulbs just have the top exposed.
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Darren, with nerines and several Hippeastrums, the same as with offsetting narcissi: bulbs planted deeper offset less and faten more.
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Alberto,
The masoniorum bulbs offset freely, and are below the surface of the potting mix. I'm not sure how deep they are just now; they were repotted 2 or 3 years ago.
Jim
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These Nerine seeds are all "recalcitrant" -- germinating immediately, not able to go dormant. Remind me next July to make some seeds of filifolia, filamentosa, and angustifolia, if you are still interested; then you can get them fresh!
As mentioned before, my masoniorum tend not to bloom. Fortunately the others do bloom reliably for me most years.
Jim
a bit late to reply, but I have different experience with Nerine Bowdenii. They flower usually in November here, seeds mature indoors in December/Januari (I keep them in a very cool but lighty place over winter), I let the flower stalks untouched on the plants until March and then sow the seeds (which still show no signs of germination at that moment). Maybe the very cool environment prevents the seeds from starting to send out their root.
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I suspect that keeping the seeds on the stalk may inhibit germination. I have seen Nerine seeds germate while still on the stalk. Cool temps may certainly help slow that down.
Jim
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Hello to all,
here is another nice Nerine, one of the smallest which flowers the first time for me. I hope you have a magnifier at the hand...
Nerine rehmannii
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My rehmannii is also blooming. Laticoma and krigei have bloomed, but rather sparsely this year. I think last summer's severe drought affected many of my potted plants, possibly our watering did not make up for the lack of rainfall.
Francosi's comment about bowdenii blooming later is in line with my experience. Right now, I have buds on two different pots of [krigei x filifolia]. Krigei is almost finished blooming, and filifolia is just showing its first buds.
Jim
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This is Nerine [filifolia x krigei] blooming right on schedule. This pot is #1529. The hybrid is very much the average of the two parental species in its size and shape.
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Now what is this thing at the Nerine?
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It's a hummingbird that was ready to contest ownership of the flower with me!
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We have feeders out, and they are very territorial.
Jim
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This is Nerine platypetala, #1251, seed originally from Silverhill Seeds. The petals are not actually particularly wider than other nerines, at 5 to 7 mm (ca. 0.25 inch), but they look wider. Probably because the tepals spread out to a diameter of only 42 mm (1.62 inch).
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The peduncle was 28 cm tall this time, but this property seems to vary widely depending on the situation.
Jim
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Here are two small Nerines
Didn't notice the hairy pedicle until I looked at the photo.
Nerine angustifolia
Nerine masoniorum
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Nerine filamentosa; in a pot, in the rain.
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Some nerines from the greenhouse today:
Mrs H. Keep
Dingaan
Zeal Plum
Miss Rosamund Elwes
Alexandra
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Very nice, Malcolm.
That purple is one of the better ones - a lot appear rather "murky"!
DO you grow them with heat?
cheers
fermi
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Very nice, Malcolm.
That purple is one of the better ones - a lot appear rather "murky"!
DO you grow them with heat?
cheers
fermi
Well, I think they are great!
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Yes, Fermi, they live in a greenhouse to keep them dry over the summer & then they are kept just frost-free over the winter. Yes, 'Dingaan' is the best purple ~ I'm not fond of all those bruise-coloured ones.
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Nice display of Nerines there Malcolm and of course the "Zeal" tribe have Devon connections. I've had a number of goes with the garden species without any success at all, yet they grow as easily as weeds in many gardens in Devon.
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" bruise-coloured" is a good description of some of the purplish shades of several plants - nerines, iris, primulas, dionysias etc - lacking in attraction to my mind- after all, who wants a bruise?
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Hello Malcolm I've just found this thread.
I love the Zeal Plum.
Here are some of the nerines I bought when I went to Exbury with the NAAS.
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Malcolm - Alexandra is an extraordinary shade of orange. Very good to see, I had no idea that shade was even possible in Nerine.
johnw
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Does the bubble wrap insulation really make a difference to a greenhouse that's just being kept frost free?
Does anyone think it diffuses the amount of daylight reaching the nerines to even lower levels during the winter months?
Mike
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Lovely nerines there, Mike. Yes, the insulation definitely helps keep heating bills down as there are nights (& some days) where the temperature remains below freezing & I have a heater going (with a thermostat) to make sure the temperature doesn't go below 2 degrees C. It certainly means that there's less light reaching the plants & they're more etiolated than they would be without it, but I'm happy to put up with this as I'm trying to minimise energy use while keeping the greenhouse heated.
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Right Malcolm, I'm ordering some UV stabilised bubbles during my next coffee break!
It was a pleasure meeting you at the NAAS Devon trip.
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A pale pink form of Nerine bowdenii flowering now in the garden.
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That's fantastic John - flowering outside in the garden, your selection seems to hardy.
I have also Nerine Bowdenii, but they absolutely don't seem cold hardy. This spring they really only were kissed by frost in the greenhouse and they did not like it at all with immediate damage to the foliage. Moreover, the seedling bulbs I had from this Nerine Bowdenii all died following this sub-zero exposure. After this chilly experience, over the summer, the Nerine Bowdenii have grown well with more foliage than ever before. But this year they are not flowering, i assume this is also still a consequence of their having been exposed to a small frost in the spring.
I also have a Nerine 'Stephanie', I think this must be a hybrid or a selection of N. Bowdenii, and this one resisted better to the cold test of this spring.