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Title: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on May 29, 2012, 05:39:24 PM
A fresh start to that ever popular topic
IT'S GREEN

1 & 2  First, one from a few weeks ago Cypripedium henryi

3 & 4  Neottia ovata just beginning to flower, now we all know the flowers look like little green men but it was a surprise to see this one had buttons on the front  :o

3   Liparis kumokiri
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on May 29, 2012, 06:00:34 PM


 Neottia ovata just beginning to flower, now we all know the flowers look like little green men but it was a surprise to see this one had buttons on the front  :o

I think it's rather charming to see a gentleman more formally attired... with a proper complement of buttons on his suit like these little green chaps.  :) 8)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: ronm on May 29, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
A fresh start to that ever popular topic
IT'S GREEN

1 & 2  First, one from a few weeks ago Cypripedium henryi

3 & 4  Neottia ovata just beginning to flower, now we all know the flowers look like little green men but it was a surprise to see this one had buttons on the front  :o
3   Liparis kumokiri

See ..... its happened again!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on May 30, 2012, 10:54:18 AM
Fred

I really feel the liparis is cheating a little but still very nice to see.

Here is one to really get the blood pounding

Platanthera sparsiflora,it is about 12 cms tall- the name says it all
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on May 30, 2012, 11:03:16 AM
Tony now you've done it,Fred's head will explode ;D
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 30, 2012, 11:53:50 AM

Here is one to really get the blood pounding

Platanthera sparsiflora,it is about 12 cms tall- the name says it all
Wow! 8)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on May 30, 2012, 02:32:48 PM
B A N G !
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on May 30, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
Oh dear...... I knew we should have put a plastic bag over our screens.... this will take ages to clear up...... :P

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Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: ronm on May 30, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Some amazing / beautiful / fascinating orchids being shown.  :o :o

I've never seen most of them before anywhere, Thanks to all,  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on June 10, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Fred

I really feel the liparis is cheating a little but still very nice to see.


Not sure where the problem is on the Liparis Tony.

It's definitely GREEN
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on June 10, 2012, 03:51:52 PM
Not really green, more of a pale chartreuse.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on July 01, 2012, 02:50:48 PM
Not only green but totally insignificant

Platanthera stricta
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on July 02, 2012, 12:00:17 AM
For such a magnificent specimen, you could at least have cleaned up the pot a bit before photographing it. ;)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on July 20, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
For such a magnificent specimen, you could at least have cleaned up the pot a bit before photographing it. ;)

Peter I agree but Mrs W. refuses to wash the pots and women can be quite obstinate at times so nothing I can do about it.
In any case as a photographer I thought you would enjoy the contrasting greens.

Here is a second one flowering today and looking particularly attractive.
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on July 20, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
It's a close call, but I think I prefer the first one - bigger flowers  :D
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Maren on July 21, 2012, 08:51:09 AM
Habenaria limprichtii.
Rather inconveniently, the central spike is the shortest. But it still got a bronze rosette at yesterday's Thames Valley Orchid Society meeting. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on July 21, 2012, 10:39:30 AM
Yeah, that is good and green  8)

 The close-up of the flowers is super - what an intricate litttle "face"
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on July 21, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
Don't get too close Maggi, it looks like it's about to grab something........
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Sam on July 22, 2012, 08:12:34 AM
very nice Maren
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Sam on July 24, 2012, 04:14:40 PM
Habenaria limprichtii.
Rather inconveniently, the central spike is the shortest. But it still got a bronze rosette at yesterday's Thames Valley Orchid Society meeting. ;D ;D ;D

how do you grow it?
because mine don't seems to want make flower >:( !
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: mark smyth on July 24, 2012, 05:52:44 PM
a word of warning - when trying to photograph Epipactis DONT try to bend the stem to get a better photo. I just snapped one off because I didnt realise how rigid they are
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Maren on July 25, 2012, 12:05:55 AM
Hi Sam,

I was pleasantly surprised that this pot flowered. I have three more, one looks empty and the other two only have leaves.

A friend suggested that I should pollinate it, so I dutifully took it to Ian B. as I could see neither pollinia nor stamen to do the deed. Have a look at the picture, none of the flowers appear to have any sexy bits ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on August 07, 2012, 10:40:31 PM
Platanthera clavellata, twice as tall and four months later than the other clone  ::)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Tony Willis on August 08, 2012, 07:24:59 AM
Fred

a nice form ,does seem late but it is a strange season
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on August 08, 2012, 01:42:48 PM
Tony

This happens every season, the two clones just do not act like the same species. ::)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on August 12, 2012, 02:43:34 PM
This is my best close up of Platanthera clavellata to date.
The Araneus diadematus spiderling that has taken up residence on the plant is about the size of a pinhead yet beautifully marked.  ;D

Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: ronm on August 12, 2012, 06:37:00 PM
Fantastic pictures Fred. :o 8)

"This is my best close up of Platanthera clavellata to date." - I see its self pollinating. How strange with such a large spur  :o.
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Maren on August 13, 2012, 11:40:20 AM
Marvellous pictures. Something to remind us to take the time to stop and look closely at our plant treasures. :) :)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on August 14, 2012, 02:21:00 PM

I see its self pollinating. How strange with such a large spur

Have you also noted that there is at least one naturally occuring hybrid Ron?
A cross with Platanthera blephariglottis which indicates an insect pollinator as well as self pollination :D
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: ronm on August 14, 2012, 04:08:07 PM
I did see that Fred, and am glad you've highlighted it. Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised given the pollination of others in this Genus.  Its described nicely here,

http://www.botany.wisc.edu/orchids/clavellata.html (http://www.botany.wisc.edu/orchids/clavellata.html)

I suppose what is surprising somewhat is that the insect hasn't been observed yet given the amount of study that seems to have gone into this Genus. What isn't clear from this report is how common the hybrid, P X vossii, is.
Seems ( from the same source ) that the 'dual pollinating methods' is better documented in P. hyperborea. Bumblebees and moths are cited as well as autogamous plants.
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: mark smyth on August 18, 2012, 08:21:51 PM
Out and about today I was brought to a site with 100s of Epipactis ?helleborine. Most were beyond their best but two stood out because they were different. They were fresh and the contents of the 'cups' was green.

Any ideas? I'll post photos shortly
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: mark smyth on August 18, 2012, 09:08:31 PM
Not the best photos. I should go back to take more.

These and D. fuschii are growing on an old hockey pitch that nature is reclaiming. The soil depth cant be much
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Neil on August 19, 2012, 01:25:52 PM
Mark

They are Epipactis phyllanthes (Green-flowered Helleborine)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: mark smyth on August 19, 2012, 04:47:05 PM
Thanks Neil
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: mark smyth on August 20, 2012, 11:57:33 PM
"very rare" says Orchids of Ireland.

This plant is growing on a site that was going to built on until the building resession. What now? Report the two plants, rescue them, collect seed ......?
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: aldo on August 25, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/2111aldo/P7090434-1.jpg)


Habenaria, green but unidentified, can someone help me?
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: fredg on August 26, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
That looks similar to Habaneria furcifera

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Forked Habenaria is a terestrial orchid, 1-2 ft tall. Stem is sheathed in lower part, with 3-6, large, elliptic, acute, up to 15x5 cm leaves, crowded below the middle, above with appressed linear-lanceolate sheaths. Inflorescence is 12-30 cm long, narrowly cylindrical, rather lax. Bracts are lanceolate-long-pointed, as long as ovary. Flowers are green, sepals nearly equal in length, the dorsal one ovate-oblong, concave, 5 mm long, the lateral sepals falcately oblong, usually slightly longer. Petals are oblong, blunt, 5-6 x 2 mm. Lip is parted in three, with threadlike side-lobes, slightly diverging, 9 x 1 mm, longer than the straight, narrow- lanceshaped mid-lobe. Spur is slender, longer than ovary, 2 cm, narrow- cylindrical, prominently widened at base. Forked Habenaria is found in the region from NW Himalayas to Sikkim, Bhutan and Assam, at lower altitudes, 150-1800 m. Flowering: July-August.
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 26, 2012, 11:39:25 AM
Not the best photos. I should go back to take more.

These and D. fuschii are growing on an old hockey pitch that nature is reclaiming. The soil depth cant be much

I thought Epipactis phyllanthes was a much more slender plant with fewer flowers and this was more likely to be a green flowered E. helleborine?
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: mark smyth on August 26, 2012, 06:30:05 PM
Anthony that's what I saw when I Googled it - slender and flowers well spaced
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 26, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
Your plants are certainly very bright green, but given the colony was E. helleborine, I would suspect these are just a bright green form. When you see "found in only three places" you suspect this isn't one of them.
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: aldo on August 28, 2012, 08:57:13 AM
That looks similar to Habaneria furcifera

Thank you, Fred
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: aldo on September 26, 2012, 08:37:53 PM
Greenorchid at the Thiene orchid show


(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/2111aldo/396485_3488101732613_1844448358_n.jpg)
Title: Re: It's green 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 02, 2012, 11:38:33 AM
Nice Catasetum Aldo there are number of green sp,it might even be a hybrid.
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