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Title: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on April 20, 2012, 03:51:15 AM
My first regelia of the season opened yesterday. My records say it is Iris stolonifera from Paul Christian Rare Plants in the UK. My first reaction was incredulity, as I've never seen a form of I. stolonifera (plant or photograph) that was so nearly self colored, with only a hint of venation and almost no brown. I wondered if it were a hoogiana instead. A web search brought up a photo of stolonifera on a Russian site that looks nearly identical to this, as well as a couple that had only slightly more veining and brown coloring. I'm now inclined to think it is in fact stolonifera, just a rather unusual color form.

Would be interested in the opinion of other forumists.
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: PeterT on April 20, 2012, 11:43:31 PM
Could you post the link to the russian pictures please?
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on April 21, 2012, 04:30:12 AM
http://mnogoletnik.narod.ru/Iris/pages/Iris_stolonifera.html
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: PeterT on April 21, 2012, 08:02:12 AM
Your picture looks more like what I know as hoogiana Tom, limited material. The Russian picture has a different beard and the falls are slightly more like stolonifera... Has your plant tucked it's falls under, in the way that stolonifera does?
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: daveyp1970 on April 21, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Tom could your plant be stolonifera x hoogiana hybrid?
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Jan on April 21, 2012, 11:07:23 AM
Blue Iris stolonifera form. There are about 25 color forms
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Jan on April 21, 2012, 11:22:53 AM
other forms of Iris stolonifera
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: PeterT on April 21, 2012, 12:04:15 PM
beautifull yellow Jan, where is it from?
How close are Iris stolonifera and Iris lineata?
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Jan on April 21, 2012, 12:13:04 PM
Peter,
yellow form from Usbekistan, I hope the seeds
Iris stolonifera grows in the mountains in wet places, Iris lineata grows in sand.

beautifull yellow Jan, where is it from?
How close are Iris stolonifera and Iris lineata?

Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: PeterT on April 21, 2012, 12:35:51 PM
Thankyou Jan. Iris stolonifera can survive wet Summers here, I have not tried I lineata out-side yet...
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: arilnut on April 21, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
http://mnogoletnik.narod.ru/Iris/pages/Iris_stolonifera.html

Tom yours looks like a form of hoogiana.  The stoli on the Russian site
looks like a very advanced generation from stolonifera x stolonifera
breeding. Elm Jensen has some similar to it.  I'm waiting for him to
get some of them introduced. He has a beautiful red and some brown ones.

John B
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Jan on April 21, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
http://mnogoletnik.narod.ru/Iris/pages/Iris_stolonifera.html

Tom yours looks like a form of hoogiana.  The stoli on the Russian site
looks like a very advanced generation from stolonifera x stolonifera
breeding. Elm Jensen has some similar to it.  I'm waiting for him to
get some of them introduced. He has a beautiful red and some brown ones.

John B

John you are right, the construction of the flower is different
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Jan on April 21, 2012, 02:38:49 PM
Iris stolonifera
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on April 21, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
The Paul Christian Rare Plants website I got this from says they raised these from seed each year to ensure virus-free stock, so it's possible that some hoogiana pollen was involved, I suppose.
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on April 21, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
Peter, the bloom is fading now but it retained the form shown in the photo, no tucking.
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: PeterT on April 21, 2012, 10:52:06 PM
The Paul Christian Rare Plants website I got this from says they raised these from seed each year to ensure virus-free stock, so it's possible that some hoogiana pollen was involved, I suppose.
Paul Christian raised them from seed? - or the person who sells them to Paul Christian? I suspect that P C was supplied with the wrong plant in this case.
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on April 22, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
Second bloom opened today. This one strikes as having a more stolonifera-like form
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 23, 2012, 02:13:24 AM
A lovely iris, anyway. :)
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on April 23, 2012, 02:25:41 AM
I concur, Lesley!
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on May 01, 2012, 07:30:07 PM
'Bronze Beauty Van Tubergen', a stolonifera/hoogiana hybrid.
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: arillady on May 02, 2012, 10:49:37 AM
 'Bronze Beauty Van Tubergen - wow I do love this one.
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 02, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
My mother had this over 50 years ago, bought from the firm of R.E. Harrison in Palmerston North. They had others too, along with a lot of regelio-cyclus hybrids. Where are they now? The firm itself is long gone and I don't know of anyone who has any of these stunning plants in their gardens now. It's very good to see it again Tom. Take good care of it. :)
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Rafa on May 07, 2012, 12:11:50 AM
a coupe of regelias
Title: Re: Regelias 2012
Post by: Tom Waters on May 07, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Very nice, Rafa. Glad to see lineata being grown!
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