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Title: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 12, 2007, 06:12:27 PM
Here are a few of my Nerines. The 6 on show last weekend are now over. I suppose the heat in the room and the car journey is to blame. Some flowers are stuck together at their tips and not opening properly

sarniensis
'Atlanta'
'Harlequin'
'Smokey Special'
'Warlord'
5091 - un-named
'Amethyst Delight'
'Berlioz'
'Ffiske'
'Inchmery Kate'
'Marchess Roi'
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 15, 2007, 03:39:35 AM
Lovely colours Mark
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 15, 2007, 09:24:20 AM
The red ones smell of chocolate
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Maggi Young on October 15, 2007, 10:30:12 AM
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The red ones smell of chocolate
Blast! Do they? I have stopped sniffing Nerines because the usual N. bowdenii types in the garden smell pretty bad, so I didn't sniff  those at the Discussion weekend show... now I'm really annoyed! >:(
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 15, 2007, 11:43:29 AM
Maggi I was telling everyone to sniff 'em. Someone, I.B., said they smell of cheap chocolate
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Maggi Young on October 15, 2007, 11:51:10 AM
How would he know what cheap chocolate smells like? He never eats cheap anything; he's a man after my own heart, and after Carole worked in Brussels, h they're both experts on good Belgian chocolate.... and beer!
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Cris on October 17, 2007, 01:54:01 PM

Mark, what a beatiful Nerines. I've never seen in these colors. The red ones are great.

I've one now almost blooming, i'm wishing to see what color are the flowers, but that must be palid rose :-[


Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 21, 2007, 07:38:21 PM
I carried out a quick experiment on Friday with my two digital cameras - Nikon Coolpix 5000 and Canon 900Ti - on one flower. I chose this Nerine, 'Machess Roi', because the sun was shining on it. Photos were taken seconds apart from almost the same angle. Quite a difference
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: David Nicholson on October 21, 2007, 08:00:41 PM
Mark, you must tell us though which is the more true colour?   (can you say more true-or should it be truest!!??)
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: John Forrest on October 21, 2007, 09:43:42 PM
I have the same result with Nikon and Fuji cameras. Neither are true for all parts of the spectrum but one is better in the red  and the other towards the blue. I have calibrated my monitor screen and printer so that they agree. Wouldn't it be good if you could do that with the  camera and real life but I guess they have tried that themselves. Probably most cameras are designed to make people look good.
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Maggi Young on October 21, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
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Probably most cameras are designed to make people look good.

Oh, I wish, I wish! :-[
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: John Forrest on October 22, 2007, 11:23:04 PM
You have nothing to worry about but talking of unflattering photos I did this one of me last night.

I was experimenting with an old flash gun last night. This is an old technique, where against a dark background you focus the camera on a long exposure. Whilst the shutter is open you walk into shot and flash something. I did this 3 times with me centre then again on the left then the right. I will be trying again with a little more thought about the subject. BUT I can see why film stars are so picky about their lighting!!! Now I am sadly disabused of the notion that I only have the one chin. :'(
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2007, 10:15:13 AM
OOH, spooky! Bet you terrified the neighbours!  Your chin is like mine, John... there's only ONe but it does cover a large area! ::)
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 24, 2007, 04:25:36 AM
Not what is usually meant when we read of some man "flashing" ;D Are  you sure John that you haven't taken up some kind of evangelical position and are handing out blessings left, right and centre?
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 24, 2007, 08:00:44 AM
good idea. You could scare the kids at the end of the month by standing in the dark and flashing yourself -with the flash gun!

Anyone know why my Nerines dont set seeds? I have cross pollinated every flower but they are now dying off
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 24, 2007, 09:13:06 PM
Anyone know why my Nerines dont set seeds? I have cross pollinated every flower but they are now dying off

I don't know Mark and it annoys me too. My rather smaller forms - but similar colours - seem to make seeds but they then shrivel and fail to develop, even with careful hand and cross pollination. After all, they are all raised from seed themselves. In Australia, Don Schofield's DO set seed as he's raising many new ones each year with glorious colours and shades.
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: SueG on October 25, 2007, 03:10:37 PM
Mark (and others)
How do you get your nerines to flower, I have a Stephanie who is only just producing a bud now, no where near opening. Is is a function of watering, sunshine, temperature or what?
Any ideas?
Sue
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 25, 2007, 05:42:57 PM
once the leaves have gone keep dry but with small watering once a month to stop the roots drying out. They must be in full sun position for any heat to ripen the bulbs. Like Ian does give them one big soak in September. When in full growth a good water once every 10 days or when I remember usually when the pot surface is dry. In the spring they get weekly feeds with tomato fertilizer or sulphate of potash until the leaves die down
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: John Forrest on October 25, 2007, 11:31:31 PM
Make sure you haven't planted them deeply. The rounded top of the bulb needs to be at the soil level with the neck sticking out.
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: SueG on October 26, 2007, 08:32:16 AM
Thanks
Not quite sure what has happened here, planted as you suggest John, and was fed and watered last year while growing, I can only wonder if I was a bit late with the September flood and that's what's held it back.
Thanks for the advice
Sue
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on October 26, 2007, 09:21:29 AM
Sue is your query about late flowers or no flowers? Some of mine are only just producing flowers
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: SueG on October 26, 2007, 01:46:20 PM
Hi Mark
Late flowers - though 10 days ago it would have been about no flowers(!) as the bud only appeared last week end.
Sue
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on November 04, 2007, 10:16:58 PM
Most have now lost their flower stems and not a seed was set. It cant be the temperature as we have been warm.

Here's a late flower belonging to 'Baghdad' - the spelling on the suppliers label
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Paul T on November 04, 2007, 10:36:52 PM
Mark,

Mine is spelt that way too, so it is presumably the cultivar name, not a mispelling or anything like that.
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: John Forrest on November 12, 2007, 08:49:25 PM
My Nerines appear to have set seed as normally.

1 The common N. bowdenii in a sunny border.

2  Nerine flexuosa alba will only survive in the alpine house but appears to be setting seed also.

3  I bought a potful of Nerine flexuosa alba from a garden centre a few years ago. It had the name on a label, together with a picture. It wasn't until later when other bulbs flowered pink that I took a closer look at the label and found in small print " colours may differ". Probably they were not divisions but grown from seed. I wonder what the likely percentage of whites would be. A lot would also depend on whether the white seed parent had been grown in isolation.  Many of the bulbs were very small and are still to flower but only the one white has appeared. I have separated the white one so I know which are vegetative propagations.
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Maggi Young on November 12, 2007, 08:55:27 PM
At least your rogue white is a good pink, Jof!
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: mark smyth on November 13, 2007, 12:15:03 AM
Yours definitely look like they have seeds. All my early ones have their flower stems removed now
Title: Re: Nerine sarniensis and other Nerines
Post by: Paul T on November 13, 2007, 08:22:11 AM
flexuosa alba sets seed for me most years, at least to some amount.  I get no seeds from my hybrids unfortunately.  Most of my species types set seed, but not all of them unfortunately.  I think a lot of Nerine species don't like only being one clone, but it obviously doesn't matter to some of them.  That dark pink flexuosa is rather nice.  Definitely worth keeping track of as it is a lovely colour and excellent flower form compared to some nerines, which can be a bit spidery at times..
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