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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Giles on February 03, 2012, 11:35:00 AM
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Prunus 'Hally Jolivette'
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My goodness.. what a sweet early flower, Giles.
Well, it seems early to me... perhaps down south you are accustomed to such treats ?
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Not early, quite a few Prunus in flower around here
..and the flowers turn pink as they age, giving the plant a nice piebald effect.
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Trees lovers may be interested in this posting on the UBC site today. Given its low elevation in China I wonder how cold hardy it really is? Sensational flowers.
http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2012/02/melliodendron-xylocarpum.php (http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2012/02/melliodendron-xylocarpum.php)
Hamamelis 'Jelena', the biggest tree in the city is in full flower today. It appears to have been in flower for quite some time. This cultivar is always the first to flower - anytime from just before Xmas till early February. Given the mild winter to date it is rather strange 'Arnold Promise' is not even showing a hint of colour. +5c, rain and the temperature to descend tomorrow.
johnw
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Prunus mume
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Lovely cherries, Giles!! Is the Prunus mume a "plain" non-cultivar mume?
The Melliodendron xylocarpum in the POTD post is stunning. I see there is one in the botanical garden in Spain the holds the yearly plant fair I go to. I will look out for it! It would be wonderful to catch it in flower.
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Chloe,
It's 'Beni-Chidori' - the only one readily available here.
I really like the 'flowers-on-bare-stems' - be it Hamamelis, Viburnum, ...Magnolia,.. etc
I'm glad you like it 8)
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I really like the 'flowers-on-bare-stems' - be it Hamamelis, Viburnum, ...Magnolia,.. etc
Me too! The magnolias are out here - and we have many very splendid magnolias - but with such a dry winter the flower colours seem duller than usual.
Another very common flower-on-bare-stem plant here (and in flower) is Chaenomeles - the variety found in local gardens seems to have a particularly dark pink flower that doesn't look quite like anything I've found in books or on the internet. I ought to take photos ...
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Another very common flower-on-bare-stem plant here (and in flower) is Chaenomeles - the variety found in local gardens seems to have a particularly dark pink flower that doesn't look quite like anything I've found in books or on the internet. I ought to take photos ...
Yes, please :D
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Prunus 'Gotenba-zakura', it is said that a natural hybrid from P. incisa with some other pink flowered cherry.
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Some more incisa's; incisa cultivars and incisa hybrids; nipponica hybrids.
Fujima
Okame
Paean
Kursar
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Thought I would add to the lovely pics above: At RBGE today the stunning Magnolia campbellii 'Charles Raffill' (I hope this works, - i have just read about the problems members are experiencing in posting pics)
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It seems to have worked first go. Also at RBGE today a legacy of the January gales - Castanea sativa (Sweet chestnut) at the edge of the Rock Garden
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The beautifully scented Corylopsis sinensis v. calvescens (or should that be 'caulescens'?)
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Maureen,
what a fantastic Magnolia :P :P . Always a dream for my area :'(
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It doesn't get any better than campbellii in the Magnolia world. :o :o :o
johnw - +23c by the tap, +26c by the greenhouse.
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Maureen, what a fantastic Magnolia :P :P . Always a dream for my area :'(
Uli -
I was once in San Francisco in February and was able to see the campbelliis in flower at the Strybing Arboretum. Better still was being able to walk on ramparts at half the heigh tof the trees and through the branches loaded with flowers, a magical experience. The labelling however was atrocious.
Can you grow dawsoniana and sargentianum v. robusta there?
I have some dawsoniana hybrids coming along but haven't tried dawsoniana itself. M. denudata x sargentianum v. robusta is okay here but doubt sargentiana itself would do.
johnw
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It seems to have worked first go. Also at RBGE today a legacy of the January gales - Castanea sativa (Sweet chestnut) at the edge of the Rock Garden
(Attachment Link) The beautifully scented Corylopsis sinensis v. calvescens (or should that be 'caulescens'?) (Attachment Link)
I had to look that one up Maureen. A search says Corylopsis sinensis var. calvescens f . veitchiana so i guess I grow it as C.veitchiana.
Hard to choose a favourite amongst the Corylopsis, they're all such a treat. Thanks for the posting.
johnw
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Maureen, what a fantastic Magnolia :P :P . Always a dream for my area :'(
Uli -
Can you grow dawsoniana and sargentianum v. robusta there?
I have some dawsoniana hybrids coming along but haven't tried dawsoniana itself. M. denudata x sargentianum v. robusta is okay here but doubt sargentiana itself would do.
johnw
We can grow M. sargentianum v. robusta. M. dawsoniana I only see in Forest Botanical Garden of Cologne. Their the magnolias grow in a wood under trees.
We (myself and friends in diffrent areas) tried M. campellii, from seeds. As long as they where in the greenhouse in winter we have no problems. The first winter outdoor killed them, all in any size we planted them.
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Hi!
The increasing Japanese cherry from my garden:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--Bqxvmz1tL4/T29rwmACoAI/AAAAAAAAFtQ/Hu-dKBPl6ks/s640/IMG_9436.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-158TDtMrFb0/T29rxsP7fsI/AAAAAAAAFtU/_AU-CvALUeI/s640/IMG_9445.JPG)
Best regards! Zvone
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Magnolias
'Leonard Messel'
M.salicifolia
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2 dwarf Prunus (about 2-3ft high)
P.nipponica kurilensis 'Brilliant'
P.tomentosa
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Way to early for Magnolia blooming here but they don't listen to me at all.....Magnolia loebneri 'Donna'...Thought i might take a pic before this weeks promised frost kills them.....Jonny
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I thought this magnificent tree
Ficus rubiginosa
growing in Cadiz was spectacular. There were several of them scattered about.It originates in Australia.
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Tony,
That really is an amazingly architectural trunk and root formation isn't it? Those buttress roots are amazing.
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Hi!
Japanese cherry from My Garden:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sB_m3vxTBrA/T3iKrFlXO0I/AAAAAAAAFw0/GebaGMUmlXs/s640/IMG_9743.JPG)
MORE PICTURES: http://zvonem.blogspot.si/news/
Best Regards! Zvone
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Zvone,
Is that the variety 'Kanzan'?
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Photographed in the RBGE on 31 March: Prunus yedoensis (P. subhirtella X P. speciosa)
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We can grow M. sargentianum v. robusta. M. dawsoniana I only see in Forest Botanical Garden of Cologne. Their the magnolias grow in a wood under trees.
We (myself and friends in diffrent areas) tried M. campellii, from seeds. As long as they where in the greenhouse in winter we have no problems. The first winter outdoor killed them, all in any size we planted them.
Uli - It must be very mild if you can grow sargentiana v. robusta. Is dawsoniana more tender than it?
A friend had several campbelliis outdoor here for a few years but they eventually expired as was expected, what wasn't expected was that they held on so long.
johnw
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Zvone,
Is that the variety 'Kanzan'?
Zvone,
Is that the variety 'Kanzan'?
Yes Paul!
Prunus serrulata kanzan!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OfXLGx3rv4Y/T3t40j0WoLI/AAAAAAAAFxk/HKoH2f-RKxc/s640/IMG_9740.JPG)
Best Regards! zvone
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We can grow M. sargentianum v. robusta. M. dawsoniana I only see in Forest Botanical Garden of Cologne. Their the magnolias grow in a wood under trees.
We (myself and friends in diffrent areas) tried M. campellii, from seeds. As long as they where in the greenhouse in winter we have no problems. The first winter outdoor killed them, all in any size we planted them.
Uli - It must be very mild if you can grow sargentiana v. robusta. Is dawsoniana more tender than it?
A friend had several campbelliis outdoor here for a few years but they eventually expired as was expected, what wasn't expected was that they held on so long.
johnw
John, the problem are the late frost periods (till the end of April). In the last 10 years we have only 3 years with undamaged flowers of M. soulangiana. The last two years we have only black buds. So the more tender species and cultivars are always a problem. In a park nearby the grow M. virginiana under pines and rhododendron. They do well 2-3 years. The last time I visit the park you can see the damage of the last two winters. The look like "broomsticks".
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Thanks Zvone.
I thought it looked like it..... such a good plant. in my late teens we planted one at home and it was most impressive. That bronze new foliage, large leaves, and those excellent flowers. There are a couple of towns an our or two from Canberra that have them planted as street trees. They look great when they are in flower, and in leaf they give such a good shade on a small tree. If I ever get a property with some space I will definitely plant one...... I just wouldn't have the space here. Doesn't stop me keeping on buying Magnolias though, does it? ::) I definitely need some acreage so that I can plant more of the things I would grow here if I had the space. ;D
Maureen,
That Prunus yedoensis is lovely. The dark centre on the pale flowers is striking, isn't it. Thanks for showing us.
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Thanks Zvone.
I thought it looked like it..... such a good plant. in my late teens we planted one at home and it was most impressive. That bronze new foliage, large leaves, and those excellent flowers. There are a couple of towns an our or two from Canberra that have them planted as street trees. They look great when they are in flower, and in leaf they give such a good shade on a small tree. If I ever get a property with some space I will definitely plant one...... I just wouldn't have the space here. Doesn't stop me keeping on buying Magnolias though, does it? ::) I definitely need some acreage so that I can plant more of the things I would grow here if I had the space. ;D
Hi Paul!
Very good thinking.
I am convinced, that you will find best solution for you and your garden.
Best Regards! zvone
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Zvone,
It's just that those pesky banks want their money back, and with interest and everything. If they just gave it away to me it would be SO much easier to get that acreage. ;D
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Paul, you should come and live here, the Government keep giving away billions of Euro (our money) to unsecured bond holders,German banks, and seemingly anyone who asks them, except us of course. :'(
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Magnolia stellata:
'Jane Platt'
'Waterlily'
Prunus incisa 'Mikinori' (better than 'Kojo-no-mai' re petal shape and colour)
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Hi!
Malus from My Garden!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VtvkdDi_he4/T4mxdDAtCCI/AAAAAAAAGUU/NuC6iiZ-plw/s288/IMG_0385.JPG)
MORE PICTURES: http://zvonem.blogspot.si/news/
Best Regards! Zvone
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We've been looking at trees in a friend's garden today. Quite taken by the Prunus maackia which positively glowed in the sunshine.
The Quercus robur seems to be a bizarre aberrant Fastigiata with branchlets that seem to coil about.
1 Phellodendron amurense
2,3,4 Prunus maackii
5 Quercus robur Fastigiata but Contorta or Spiralis too!
6 Stewartia pseudocamellia
johnw
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This seemed very bizarre to me, dense clusters of pine cones on Pinus thunbergii. Is this typical? A very ungainly tree even here in a very windy spot where one would think it would take on a picturesque habit as it does in Japan.
johnw
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I think that Pinus thunbergii can commonly have clusters of ten or so seed cones, and these "mega-clusters" are not so very unusual, I think. They are certainly spectacular and must seem like a squirrel delicatessen :)
The Japanese Black Pine is used extensively for bonsai work, of course, where it can attain the most elegant shapes.... but I do not think I have ever seen such pineapple like cone clusters on one of those trees.
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Maggi - In the last photo I count about 25 cones in view so one might triple that!
I'm thinking of those tiny rock islands close to shore one sees in Japan with lovely flat-topped pines with growth swooping in one direction. Here the trees are quite ugly with no sense of direction.
johnw
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Yes, that wind-swept growth is what is tried for in the bonsai..... very attractive look. Maybe they just need the climate and ambience of their home islands to conform?
As I well know, there is all the difference in the world between wind-swept and " blown to smithereens" :-X We see the same "problem" here with junipers etc that do not get enough shaping from a single direction of wind and just end up looking messy.
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Just to prove that we do have trees in our garden as well as alpines. This is my favourite. Not planted by us as it must be getting on for 100 years old. a Perry Pear. The pears are like horse chestnuts in texture, but they were allowed to rot and were used once upon a time to make Perry (Pear cider).
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww32/Owdboggy/April%202012%20Miscellany/PerryPear.jpg)
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That's a venerable tree, Eric. And still flowering well.
If the pears are that hard you'll certainly need your hob-nail boots on to trample them for the perry, then? :-\ Could still be delicious!
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Eric - What a magnificent tree!
Maggi - We can supply the wind, in fact this tree is near one of the windiest spots in the county but alas it's a mess as are its siblings. Same here with upright junipers, horrible looking things; I've heard it said warm nights induce these to shut down growth at night which seems to contradict logic.
johnw
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Some flowering cherries from the National Collection at Batsford.
Gyoiko
Ukon
Ojochin
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Some flowering cherries from the National Collection at Batsford.
Gyoiko
Ukon
Ojochin
Vau!
Thank's Giles!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WrjfAZCHKaI/T5MHVJREdcI/AAAAAAAAGWQ/-9T16fASu4Y/s288/IMG_0534.JPG)
More pictures:http://zvonem.blogspot.si/
Best Regards! zvone
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One year I hit Vanvouver at the peak of the cherries flowering. One variety that was widely planted was especially pleasing to me and I assumed it would be too tender for Halifax as I had never seen it in local gardens. A month later and back at home I turned down the wrong street and low and behold there was a solitary tree identical to the Vancouver one I had admired.
Today I stopped to take a few photographs and an elderly gentleman come out to see what I was up to. He told me he bought it at a garden centre and planted it on city property with their permission but couldn't recall the name.
Is it x yedoensis or x yedoensis 'Akebono'? I see no extra petal on any of the flowers.
johnw
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Giles, GYOIKO looks much greener than UKON?
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Hi!
Cornus from My Garden:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LC2hhyCn7C8/T7qh-7b2QnI/AAAAAAAAIIM/WqcKrZkJm_w/s640/IMG_1022.JPG)
Best Regards! zvone
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Saw this yesterday, in an old chalk quarry, :o. We mollycoddle all of our trees and they never grow as beautifully as this one ::) ::) ;D.
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This Parrotia started life as a "rescue" having been found in the back of a run-down nursery in a 5" pot and with leaves small and purple from stress - we thought it was a copper beech!
12 years later it is slowly making a nicely shaped tree and is flowering profusely this winter.
cheers
fermi
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Magnolia grandiflora 'Kay Parris'
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This is a strikingly coloured flower on Cornus capitata in Kilmacurragh Botanic Gardens, Co. Wicklow, Ireland. The plant was grown from seed and has not yet been given a cultivar name.
Paddy
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I have always been fascinated by conifers and once I wanted to grow all hardy conifer species in my garden! I soon realized that was impossible in a small plot. I still enjoy conifers and last week I visited Bergen and had a walk in a wood (20+) of Monkey Puzzle Trees! In my own garden I don't have space for more than one or two of each species. Here are some.
Araucarya araucana from Bergen. Cunninghamia lanceolata with very sharp needles! Metasequoia glyptostroboides makes a slender stem and is about 6-7m tall. Sciadopitys verticillata also makes a nice, slim cone. Sequoia sempervirens I got as a cutting five years ago. Taxodium distichum isn't quite like those I saw in Florida but has survived for 20 years. Wollemia nobilis bought from Kew two years ago. Has survived outside with a little winter protection!
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Nice to see Wollemia pines surviving on the otherside of the northern hemisphere. The last standing grove is already under threat of phytophora. The sercrete location was too hard to keep away the curious and not realising that photophora was brought in under their boots.
cheers
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What a sad news Stephen! :(
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Can anyone identify this shrub seen in a garden in Oslo last week. Sorry, but this is the only picture I got..
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Nice one, Stephen... somewhere between a Leucothoe and a Forsythia! :-\
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Stephen, I would say it is a Forsythia although the leaves are more serrated than usual.
I visited Kleppe Hagelag last Tuesday and they told me they had enjoyed your talk there ;-)
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Thanks.
Did you give a talk?
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Yes, "Colour in the garden" ;)
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Anyone know what this is? The label says Celtis occidentalis (seed propagated)
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It looks like a Celtis. But the foliage is not as I know it, for C. occidentalis. Overside the foliage is glossy, that is o. k. . But the foliage must more a oblong form.
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In the garden today, a ( I will be one day! :) ) mighty Oak and a dwarf willow.
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I took these pics of Paulownia tomentosa at my mum's last week,
cheers
fermi
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We have a good set of buds on Paulownia tomentosa here at the moment and are hoping they come through the winter to give a nice display next spring.
Great show.
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Paddy - Surely the buds will go through the winter in Eire will they not? Here a pic from last week in the Annapolis Valley, a P. tomentosa from seed sown in autumn 2004 and shot from a third story window! Bloomed a treat last year.
johnw
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a P. tomentosa from seed sown in autumn 2004 and shot from a third story window!
Good grief! That's some rate of growth!
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John, we are very prone to heavy frosts here and they will do well to come through the winter. However, we live in hope
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My Paulownia got too big, so I cut it down to ground level as I'd read they were sometimes grown like that...it didn't return :'(
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Stephen, they are regularly grown here in that style so as to produce extra large leaves, so just as a foliage plant.
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Stephen, they are regularly grown here in that style so as to produce extra large leaves, so just as a foliage plant.
And here as well, sometimes the winter does it for us. Due to the very dry summer the leaves were not as big as usual.
johnw