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Title: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on January 29, 2012, 12:09:47 PM
I have two small greenhouses where there are about 5 degress. Mostly I use them to  mine Hepatica and a few have flowers already. As you can see on one of the pictures as I have attached there are several new cross as are well on the way and a few of them will get flowers this year, exciting  :o
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Post by: art600 on January 29, 2012, 02:07:16 PM
If only I could grow them  :-[
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Post by: annew on January 29, 2012, 04:34:42 PM
An exciting start to the year!
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Post by: WimB on January 29, 2012, 04:35:40 PM
Very nice, Karl!
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Post by: chasw on January 29, 2012, 09:55:37 PM
Mangetsu is very nice Karl
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Post by: Peppa on January 30, 2012, 06:23:44 AM
Looking great, Karl!

The first flowers are always exciting to see, especially after several years of waiting. :)
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Post by: Natalia on January 30, 2012, 10:23:06 AM
Perfectly well, the season is opened!
 Karl, thanks for a photo!
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Post by: kalle-k.dk on January 30, 2012, 05:23:19 PM
Two Hepatica from today. I got them in the greenhouse, but they are full hardy and I colud also grow them outsite in the garden. I got several other Hepatica in the garden, also japonica and they grow well.
Pepper your winter sound like ours, but in the end of this week we got it cold -15 degress. :-[
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Post by: Lillii on January 30, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
Beautiful hepaticas, Karl, thanks for sharing. Springtime is not far away when i see such treasures! I am looking forward to see hepatica Eisvogel that i planted last year. And i have even sown hepatica seeds in pots both inndoor and outside ;D Some of the ones i have inndoor (cool room with light) have started sprouting! This will be a most interesting season
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Post by: Peppa on January 30, 2012, 11:38:28 PM
Pepper your winter sound like ours, but in the end of this week we got it cold -15 degress. :-[

That is pretty cold! The only transsilvanica I have is 'Ellison Spence', but your 'Schwanensee' is very nice! I also love your H. x euroasiatica 'Prof. Friedrich Hildebrand'! :D

And i have even sown hepatica seeds in pots both inndoor and outside ;D Some of the ones i have inndoor (cool room with light) have started sprouting! This will be a most interesting season

I sowed a lot of H. japonica seed from my friends in Japan last year, so I'm also looking forward to seeing them sprout! ;D
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Post by: Peppa on February 01, 2012, 02:06:30 AM
I just found this flower when I looked under my cold frame...

Hepatica nobilis ex 'Cremar'
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Post by: Gunilla on February 01, 2012, 08:47:35 AM
Wonderful to see your hepaticas, Karl. Magnetsu is absolutely stunning. It's very cold her now and everything outside is frozen but I have a few pots in my outhouse at +5 C and Hepatica maxima is about to flower.
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Post by: Gunilla on February 01, 2012, 08:55:24 AM
What a nice find, Peppa :).
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Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 02, 2012, 06:08:24 PM
Pepper I have used 'Cremar' several times in my cross and sometimes it give very beautiful leaves forms. Last year I got the first filled forms from my Hepatica nobilis, I have got it before in my Hepatica nobilis v. japonica, but this time it was the European species and I mean all other filled forms of Hepatica nobilis are plants found in the nature. This year I can see there again will come filled forms and this time there are also red forms :D I post some picture of them last year on SRGC forum, but you can also see them on my website: http://kalle-k.dk/Mine%20egne%20Hepatica%20krydsninger-My%20own%20Hepatica%20cross.htm
Yes I also think Hepatica nobilis v. japonica 'Magnetsu' is very beautiful, I also have real yellow forms but for me is that colour 'Magnetsu' have fantastic.
It is very cold; when it will be better I will send some more pictures. 
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Post by: Peppa on February 04, 2012, 07:04:57 AM
What a nice find, Peppa :).

Yes it was! :D

Pepper I have used 'Cremar' several times in my cross and sometimes it give very beautiful leaves forms. Last year I got the first filled forms from my Hepatica nobilis, I have got it before in my Hepatica nobilis v. japonica, but this time it was the European species and I mean all other filled forms of Hepatica nobilis are plants found in the nature. This year I can see there again will come filled forms and this time there are also red forms :D I post some picture of them last year on SRGC forum, but you can also see them on my website: http://kalle-k.dk/Mine%20egne%20Hepatica%20krydsninger-My%20own%20Hepatica%20cross.htm
Yes I also think Hepatica nobilis v. japonica 'Magnetsu' is very beautiful, I also have real yellow forms but for me is that colour 'Magnetsu' have fantastic.
It is very cold; when it will be better I will send some more pictures. 

Thanks for the great info, Karl! When I bought this plant from Rick Lupp when I was visiting his nursery, he told me that OP offspring from these plants will give you beautiful leaf patterns and curly leaves. It's nice to know that someone who has experience crossing this plant can confirm that these traits can be passed on!

Thanks for the link to the pictures of your beautiful European fully double hepatica! They are all very stunning! Your photo http://kalle-k.dk/H.%20nobilis%20flora%20plena%20'Ydun'.JPG  is a very good example of how you can sometimes find stamens hidden between the sepals. That pollen is 'Gold Dust', and I'm sure that you used it for your cross! : ;)

My japonica seeds from last year have started to germinate! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 04, 2012, 06:35:14 PM
After the coldest night in 26 years with temperature down to -20.2 was it great to get into in the greenhouse today where the temperature is +5 degrees :) There were a few new Hepatica in bloom. Hepatica nobilis v. japonica 'Genrei' is a wild collection from Mt. Yahiko.

Peppa, I have good experience with pricking out early in small pots.

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Post by: WimB on February 04, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
Wonderful Karl,

I love 'Genrei' especially!
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Post by: Shadylanejewel on February 05, 2012, 04:50:58 AM
I love 'Genrei' especially!

Me too - the color combination is fantastic!

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Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 07, 2012, 05:14:36 PM
A few starting to flower here.

Hepatica japonica pink
Hepatica japonica white
Hepatica nobilis pink
Hepatica japonica Anjyu
Hepatica nobilis rubra plena
Hepatica japonica kuukai
Heepatica nobilis dark blue
Hepatica japonica blue
Hepatica japonica sakuragari - something is eating the flowers on these two
Hepatica japonica.
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Post by: annew on February 07, 2012, 05:44:09 PM
Beautiful, Michael - and very early!
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Post by: Shadylanejewel on February 07, 2012, 05:50:48 PM
Hepatica japonica sakuragari - something is eating the flowers on these two
Hepatica japonica.

Search and destroy mission.....

Michael - all of them are quite stunning even with the leaf nibbles  :)  Hepatica japonica Anjyu my favorite of the moment or maybe it is Hepatica japonica sakuragari
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Post by: Maggi Young on February 07, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Michael I think that the nibbles look like the kind of "grazing" we can get here from the Sparrows. ???

Just naughty chompng to see if they're tasty, y'know.

The blues are so good.... but the stronger pinks, almost reds... well ..... 8) 8)
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Post by: Shadylanejewel on February 07, 2012, 06:51:02 PM
the nibbles look like the kind of "grazing" we can get here from the Sparrows. ??? 

If it is Sparrows, forget the destroy!   :o  I'm glad our Sparrows aren't voracious like that (knock on wood).  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on February 07, 2012, 09:52:41 PM
Lovely range of colour there Michael, you must enjoy a warmer climate there than I have (one bud currently showing some colour).

I get similar damage to flowers occasionally, the culprit always seems to be very small slugs grazing on the buds. They're even active under currrent conditions when our night-time low is down to -3 to -5C, and the greeenhouse is kept barely frost free. They must move about during the day when the air temperature warms up. I've found I get less damage isince I began to remove last years leaves around the turn of the year, as you can see the little slugs more easily and pick them off.
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Post by: angie on February 07, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Michael I wondered when you would post some pictures of your Hepatica. What a lovely display  8)

Angie  :)
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Post by: Lesley Cox on February 07, 2012, 11:30:26 PM
Your Hepaticas are just wonderful Michael. What a thrill to have them in flower so well and so early. 8)
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Post by: tetsuo on February 08, 2012, 12:23:15 AM
Hello
I post some photos of H.japonica.
I grow some pots in a room to enjoy early blooms.
tetsuo
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Post by: Shadylanejewel on February 08, 2012, 12:32:11 AM
 :o :o :o

Very stunning deep colors Tetsuo.  All are beautiful but that electric blue is just wow!  How wonderful to be able to enjoy them early.
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Post by: Peppa on February 08, 2012, 01:23:31 AM
Love these hepaticas everybody!  :D

Tetsuo-san, it looks like your flowers have plenty of pollen! ;D
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 08, 2012, 11:32:49 AM
Fantastic display Karl, Michael and Tetsuo !!  Some really stunning plants there !   :o :o
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Post by: WimB on February 08, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
Wonderful plants, Michael. I love that 'Kuukai' especially.

Tetsuo, I love those Hyoujunka forms a lot and what exquisitely intense colours!
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 10, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
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I get similar damage to flowers occasionally, the culprit always seems to be very small slugs grazing on the buds.

You are correct Peter, caught the little blighters this evening munching on the flowers. They have gone for their holidays. ;)
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Post by: Maggi Young on February 10, 2012, 08:23:49 PM
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I get similar damage to flowers occasionally, the culprit always seems to be very small slugs grazing on the buds.

You are correct Peter, caught the little blighters this evening munching on the flowers. They have gone for their holidays. ;)
Little swines! Glad you caught them.
Saw a sparrow sneaking up on an eranthis today.... told him what I thought of him. Maybe it is just "my" sparrows that are phantom chompers?
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 10, 2012, 08:41:39 PM
Maggi, watched a female Bulfinch (Pyrrhula Pyrrhula) eating the buds from a dwarf flowering cherry tree in the front garden yesterday. I opened the window several times and chased it, but it returned a few minuted later and continued the destruction. It was only about ten feet from the front window where I was watching, but it wasn't deterred,decided it was eating the buds whether I liked it or not . Don't think I will have any cherry blossom flowers this year, but I will have a nice fat bullfinch. :)

Here is a bad pic taken through the window of the culprit at work.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 11, 2012, 08:14:36 AM
Michael and Tetsuo beautiful plants particular the red P1. Michael there will allway be problems with growing plant, to cold, warm, dry, to much sun e.g. and thre are also a lot of devils who like eating the leaves or flowers. I think your problem maybe can be woodlouse?
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Post by: art600 on February 11, 2012, 09:30:05 AM

  Kisen - WOW!!!
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Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 11, 2012, 10:02:28 AM
Art 600 I have other yellow, 'Kisen' is one of the best.

As you can see with 'Momosango' I use a plastic ring to hold leaves and flowers. I have bought them on a Japanes flowershop, but you can also made them with wire and they hold leaves so it hinder fungi.
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Post by: WimB on February 11, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
Wonderful plants, Karl.  :o

I love 'Akamusha' and 'Kisen' a lot. 'Kisen' is a good yellow, indeed!

The plastic ring is a very good idea to stop fungal infection of the leaves. Hadn't seen that before.
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Post by: fleurbleue on February 11, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
Thank you Karl, Tetsuo and Michael to share all these delightful pics with us  ;)
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Post by: Yann on February 11, 2012, 04:04:50 PM
Kisen is a nature gift, what a color.
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Post by: ronm on February 11, 2012, 04:09:32 PM
Wonderful pictures of wonderful plants! They really are like jewels in their pots. Lovely to see these during these snow covered days.
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Post by: Lillii on February 11, 2012, 07:19:30 PM
Jewels indeed! Thanks for sharing these stunning pictures  :-*
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Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 15, 2012, 04:44:40 PM
'Balder' is one of my own Hepatica nobilis cross with filled flowers. I can see there are coming 2 red this year, also with filled flowers, but the flowers is still not full open.
'Kihou' is a japonica and the stamen are light yellow.
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Post by: ronm on February 15, 2012, 04:56:11 PM
Nice Karl, very nice. While I don't grow any Hepatica myself I can thoroughly appreciate them through your pictures. ;D 8)
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 19, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
A few more hepatica in flower.

Hepatica Purple nidan saki.
Hepatica Purpre nidan saki
Hepatica japonica Akane.
Hepatica japonica Asahizuru
Hepatica japonica Haruno awayuki.
Hepatica nobilis
Hepatica japonica
Hepatica nobilis
Hepatica nobilis
Hepatica nobilis rubra plena
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 19, 2012, 08:00:33 PM
Last few.
Hepatica americana.
Hepatica americana
Hepatica nobilis
Hepatica Japonica Murasaki
Hepatica transylvanica, Blue jewel
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 19, 2012, 08:25:13 PM
Gorgeous plants Karl and Michael !  :o :o

H. "Nidan Saki" is absolutely breathtaking !
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Post by: Lesley Cox on February 19, 2012, 08:54:35 PM
:D
Tetsuo-san, it looks like your flowers have plenty of pollen! ;D
Now THERE'S a telling comment. :D
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Post by: art600 on February 19, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Michael

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Post by: tetsuo on February 20, 2012, 05:37:03 AM
Very nice Yukiwarisou, Karl and Michael!
We enjoy the pictures.

Peppa-san
Plenty of pollen are used for self crossing or crossing with others.
They seem to be Hyouzyunka ,but some have the gene of double form.
So I expect various colors and forms by self crossing of F1.
In some cases ,anthers need to be cut for getting pollen. But I would
seek help from magnifying glass .  Alas!

Tetsuo
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Post by: WimB on February 20, 2012, 08:25:56 AM
Wonderful plants, Michael.

Love the H. jap. 'Haruno awayuki'  :o. Not so sure about the H. jap. 'Murasaki' though  :-\
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 24, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
I had two Hep's showing colour today !  :D

1) and 2) Hepatica japonica - unnamed cultivar, that is even a darker pink in reality than on the picture.

3) Hepatica japonica "Urihime" - for some reason it's almost white this year instead of the usual light pink.  Anyone who has an explanation for this ?
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Post by: ronm on February 24, 2012, 09:03:41 PM
Sorry Luc, I cant answer that question, don't really know Hepaticas at all. But I know that H.japonica - unnamed is gorgeous! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: tetsuo on February 25, 2012, 10:09:30 AM
Very nice plants,Luc.

I can't explain the reason why the color of Hepatica change a little year by year.
But  I know from experience that hepatica flowers in a little different color,
especially with the case of crossing.
Sometimes different color of petals(sepal) appear in a same plant.
 tetsuo
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Post by: Peter Maguire on February 25, 2012, 12:30:49 PM
That's quite an extreme difference! I've noticed that hepatica flowers change colour as they age (as do most flowers), sometimes looking very different when they are older compared with when they first open, but never such a variation at the same time on one plant.
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Post by: tetsuo on February 25, 2012, 11:26:31 PM
 Sorry I do not know about the colour's change exactly.
But I will be able to guess flower's color is influenced by two factors.
First, environmental factor (PH etc.) will change color.
Second, the some genes regulate the Anthocyanin which control colour.
The hepatica picture which I posted is a cross between two different colors'.
More other factors will influence colors of plants .
I would be happy when I saw a new Hepatica of unforeseen color and form.
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 09:57:58 AM
Today, I had a meeting in the morning at Tokyo and had a time for a quick visiting to the largest hepatica exhibition in Japan after that. The exhibition was just held at The Ueno Green Club, Tokyo.

1.   The exhibition hall
2.   Ao-daishou, The grand prize 2012
3.   Ao-daishou, The grand prize 2012
4.   Ao-daishou, The grand prize 2012
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Post by: ronm on February 26, 2012, 10:48:47 AM
Wow,  8) are needed for judging! ;D
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 11:01:30 AM
Sorry for the poor quality of the pics, because the room light in the hall was always very week >:( :(

5. Manten-no-Hoshi, The honorary chairman prize 2012
6. Manten-no-Hoshi, The honorary chairman prize 2012
7. Ruri-Iwai, The gold medal, single flower, new breeding section
8. Ruri-Iwai, The gold medal, single flower, new breeding section
9. Kaizan-Senri, The gold medal, miscellaneus section
10. Kaizan-Senri, The gold medal, miscellaneus section
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Post by: ronm on February 26, 2012, 11:05:01 AM
Amazing flowers. Were any of the winners your plants YT?
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
Amazing flowers. Were any of the winners your plants YT?

No, of course not, Ron ;D I'm also interested in these little gems but not a maniac as the prize winners. They are totally hepatica addicts  ::) ;D ;D

I'll post some more later ;)
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Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Great to see the plants and the wonderful prizes they are awarded.

"Manten-no-Hoshi, The honorary chairman prize 2012" is very beautiful. Such a deep velvet blue.  8)
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 04:05:54 PM
Great to see the plants and the wonderful prizes they are awarded.

"Manten-no-Hoshi, The honorary chairman prize 2012" is very beautiful. Such a deep velevt blue.  8)

Cheers! Maggi :D The exact meaning of "Manten-no-Hoshi" is "a skyfull of stars", but it seems better to say "a skyfull shower of meteors" or simply "fireworks" I suppose ;)
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 05:11:35 PM
11. Ka-Rai or Koh-Rai, The gold medal, collarette (cho-ji zaki) section
12. Ka-Rai or Koh-Rai, The gold medal, collarette (cho-ji zaki) section
13. Jakkoh, The gold medal, single flower section
14. Jakkoh, The gold medal, single flower section
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Post by: art600 on February 26, 2012, 05:14:28 PM
Thank you for showing us these amazing plants.

I am glad they are many thousands of miles away or I might be tempted - and a pension will only stretch so far   :)
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Post by: ronm on February 26, 2012, 05:14:48 PM
Why are all the winners blue, please YT? ??? ???
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Post by: ashley on February 26, 2012, 05:58:43 PM
What beauties :o   Thank you for showing them to us Tatsuo.
'Jakkoh' and 'Manten-no-Hoshi' are especially attractive I think.

And what a great forum, that we can share around the world like this.
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 06:24:25 PM
Art, I'll post pics of some hepatica shop later. Wait and see ;)

Ron, that's simple! I took the pics of my favourite flowers ;D ;D ;D They divide hepaticas into many different contest sections by flower forms and there are lots of gold medal holders ;)

You're welcome, Ashley! It's great fun for me, too :) :) :)


15. Utage, The gold medal, the most popular flower by the visitors
16. Utage, The gold medal, the most popular flower by the visitors
17. Beni-nagashi
18. Tenteko-Mai
19. Shigure
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Post by: ronm on February 26, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
So blue is your colour YT!  ;D I thought it must be something to do with the latest trend or fashion. It is me who is simple! :-[ :-[ :-[
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Post by: YT on February 26, 2012, 06:32:30 PM
Ron ;D ;D ;D

Then, I have to go to bed now. See you again tomorrow ;)
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Post by: art600 on February 26, 2012, 06:42:45 PM
Probably the bronze medal winners would have us drooling  :)
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Post by: WimB on February 26, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
Wonderful, Tatsuo! I would pick a favorite, but I just can't! Those blue ones are stunning (blue has always been my favorite colour too!  ;)), the more I look at these plants, the more I love them...
I'm looking forward to seeing some pics of the shop....and to see what you have bought  ;)  :P
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Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 26, 2012, 07:24:14 PM
Wonderful, Tatsuo They are all pretty especially 'Jakkoh' I understand why it got the gold medal.
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Post by: WimB on February 26, 2012, 07:25:53 PM
Karl,

wonderful plants. Does 'Alansdal' stay that dark or does it get whiter in the centre as the flower ages?
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Post by: art600 on February 26, 2012, 07:40:20 PM
Karl

If you keep producing wonderful plants I will run out of tissues  ;)
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Post by: Lesley Cox on February 26, 2012, 08:19:21 PM
Tha Tokyo plates are as beautiful as the plants. :D
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Post by: angie on February 27, 2012, 08:58:12 AM
What a collection  8). I hate opening this topic,  as I love everyone. They are just like tiny cute faces.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 10:09:50 AM
Probably the bronze medal winners would have us drooling  :)

Art, several unawarded hepaticas have already been uploaded here ;D

Wim, thanks :) You've already seen faaaaaaaaaarrr better flowers than mine on this thread ;) ;D

Karl, very nice hepatias you have :o Yes, 'Jakkoh' is one of the best flowers of all I guess too ;)

Lesley, it's good idea these plates are given to the winners instead of medals or trophies. How about using these for sushi decoration ;D

Angie, yes indeed :)
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Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 10:12:30 AM
...continued from yesterday

20. Shibu-Mi
21. unnamed, shishi-ba (ruffled leaf)
22. Bi-Sei
23. Inashima-Midori
24. Inashima-Midori
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Post by: ronm on February 27, 2012, 10:17:01 AM
These are amazing pictures, YT, of what must have been a truly inspiring event! How many entrants are there for a show such as this, and how many people from the public would visit, please?
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Post by: WimB on February 27, 2012, 11:01:09 AM
 :o The electric green 'Inashima-Midori'
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 27, 2012, 11:05:55 AM
Wow :o :o :o Love that Inashima-Midori. Would probably need to mortgage the house to buy that. :P
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Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 11:28:15 AM
Ron, I cannnot answer that, sorry. I'm only a visitor and stay the show place about 1 hour, as you know. Several ten thousand visiters and some decades exhibiter, ten or some more nursery shops ???

As far as I know, this event is sponsored and managed by professional hepatica nurseries and breeders. Amatures can entiry the contest and exhibit their plants but it seems just a kind of commercial events. Free for entry charge, so many peoples like us amatures visit the show and buy lots of hepatica plants from nursery shops and both become happy, like that ;)

25. - 27. Exhibition floor
I visited the show in the afternoon of the last day, not so many people were there.
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Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 12:37:18 PM
28. Shopping floor, all are hepatica shops, very fun :) :) :)
29. sandan-zaki (leafy green centre, double) seedling, JPY 30.000- :o :o :o
30. sandan-zaki (leafy green centre, double) seedling, JPY 5,000 - 8,000, what is different to above, in anyway ???
31. yellow double seedling, priceless :o ::) ;D
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Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 01:43:26 PM
32. a shop display bench, more than 4,000 pots on the bench :o
33. a sort of single seedlings close up, JPY 2,000 - 7,000, I like single flowers best :)
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Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 01:52:48 PM
34. a sort of single seedlings, JPY 1,000 - 8,000 :)
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Post by: YT on February 27, 2012, 01:56:42 PM
35. a sort of double seedlings, JPY 5,000 - 100,000 or more :o :o

This is the last pic of the hepatica show, thanks for all comments :) :) :)
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Post by: WimB on February 27, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
All those plants  :o :o
And those prices  :o :o :o

30. sandan-zaki (leafy green centre, double) seedling, JPY 5,000 - 8,000, what is different to above, in anyway ???

That reminds me of Galanthus  ;D ;D :P (Now the Galanthophiles AND the Hepaticaphiles will want to kill me  :P)

I like single flowers best :)

I find that the "simplest" flowers can be the most beautiful very often, too! (And it's healthier for your wallet!  ;))
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: art600 on February 27, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Even more glad that I am several thousand miles away from temptation  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 27, 2012, 04:21:59 PM
Amazing stuff Tatsuo !!  Thank you so much for showing us these !!  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Casalima on February 27, 2012, 04:24:13 PM
Wonderful to see these photos, Tatsuo!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on February 27, 2012, 05:17:20 PM
Thank you showing all those wonderful plants Tatsuo. I now realise that what we see over here in the UK is just just the tip of a very beautiful iceberg.
It's fortunate that the show is several thousand miles from here, otherwise I would be spending my children's inheritance.  ;). I don't know how you could just go there for an hour - there's several days of Hepatica worship there!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: angie on February 27, 2012, 06:14:58 PM
Just thinking the same as Peter was. I don't have any children to leave my money to but if I were there I certinally would have a lot less money thats for sure.
Only one thing is how could you pick a selection from so much plants. Amazing.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Gunilla on February 27, 2012, 06:45:54 PM
Angie, I agree. Just look at that sales market :o and all those beautiful plants. It's a good thing we can watch pictures here for free  ;D
Thank you for showing all these lovely photos of hepatica flowers, Karl, Michael and Tatsuo. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 27, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
Now you know, Angie, Peter, Arthur, how we feel about Janis Ruksans catalogue. Strictly look but don't touch. Being millionaires wouldn't help us.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on February 27, 2012, 11:11:21 PM
Being a millionaire might not help with plant import regulations, but I'm sure it would make many other things a lot more pleasant.  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: EmmaCampanula on February 28, 2012, 08:21:36 AM
I'm lost for words! Thank you for sharing these photos YT!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Jonny_SE on February 28, 2012, 12:10:33 PM
Great pics...thanks for sharing....i look at them with mixed feelings.......how much i want go bananas with my Visa there...and how much i don't want to look at the bill afterwards....//Jonny
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Gunilla on February 28, 2012, 01:56:24 PM
Hello, Jonny! Good to see you here :).  Any sign of spring in Värmland yet ?  I found some Hepatica transsilvanica in flower out in the garden today so I guess spring is almost here.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on February 28, 2012, 03:35:20 PM
Dear all, It's my pleasure :)

... and I forgot to upload some pics, sorry

36. hepatica clay pots, designed for hepatica cultivation, slender shape, larger drain hole
37. hepatica plastic pots, designed for seedlings, slender, 8 slits at bottom edge for preventing root circling
38. one of my shopping at show, very good for wallet ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on February 28, 2012, 03:38:41 PM
  :) :) :),I would say you showed great restraint YT. Does it have a name? It really is a beauty, ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Jonny_SE on February 28, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
Hi Gunilla  :)
Spring??..23*C in the south side of the house today 8)...But it's  to early...way to early...2-3 more weeks and it will be a more stabil temp i guess..had to make a stagedive into my coldframes and it looks just great.....even that we don't think and believe..this few weeks goes fast  ;D//Jonny
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: art600 on February 28, 2012, 09:44:58 PM
Can I be inquisitive and asked what you paid for that simple but beautiful hepatica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on February 29, 2012, 02:18:58 AM
Ron, thanks. it is a seedling just has no name ;) The little flower smiled for me when I glanced over the thousands seedlings 8)

Art, it was JPY 5,000 to 3,000 :) It was the afternoon on last day of the show so I asked the shop owner who is an acquaintance of mine for a price reduction ;D ;D ;D But it was even a big shopping for me...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Shadylanejewel on February 29, 2012, 03:18:37 AM
Very beautiful seedling YT and a very good price.   ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peter Maguire on February 29, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
It looks like your prices are very similar to what is charged over here. I'd be willing to pay JPY 3000 for a flower like that. :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Jonny_SE on February 29, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Make that two  ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on February 29, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
Seems a very reasonable price compared to what we saw at some of the shows last year,  :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 01, 2012, 12:02:07 AM
Being a millionaire might not help with plant import regulations, but I'm sure it would make many other things a lot more pleasant.  ;)

Very true Peter. How much is Y3000 in UK pounds?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 01, 2012, 06:34:32 AM
Being a millionaire might not help with plant import regulations, but I'm sure it would make many other things a lot more pleasant.  ;)

Very true Peter. How much is Y3000 in UK pounds?
Around £23.26 according to "Currency convertor"
NZ$44.40!
Nice pics, Tatsuo!
thanks.

fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 01, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
Until now there have been 5 Hepatica nobilis with filled flowers in my cross from this year, 4 blue and 1 pink all of them got pollen so I can use them in my crosses  :D My wife and I will call the pink one Cecilie, same name as our youngest daughter.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on March 01, 2012, 06:43:11 PM
Lovely Karl ;D. And why not? Cecilie is a beautiful name, :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: mark smyth on March 01, 2012, 06:43:35 PM
I have a large pot with c.100 Hepatica nobiis seedlings grown from parents of various colours and open pollinated. When can I knock them out and pot them on?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 01, 2012, 07:00:14 PM
Thank you Ronm.

Mark I mean the best time is now, we will got a little cold weather the next 3-4 days after that I will begin pot my seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lillii on March 01, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
Cecilie is beautiful, congratulations Kalle! And a superbonus that she will provide you with pollen for your crossingwork :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 01, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
Being a millionaire might not help with plant import regulations, but I'm sure it would make many other things a lot more pleasant.  ;)

Very true Peter. How much is Y3000 in UK pounds?
Around £23.26 according to "Currency convertor"
NZ$44.40!
Nice pics, Tatsuo!
thanks.

fermi

Well that's just half a peanut compared to some snowdrop prices! ???
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 03, 2012, 08:31:44 AM
A few from today.  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 03, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
All of them are very beautiful Karl.  Cecilie is a stunning nobilis! 

Note to self: Check into obtaining fresh seed of H. japonica.

Cheers,
Julie
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peppa on March 04, 2012, 05:27:57 AM
Tatsuo-san, thanks for sharing the hepatica exhibit picutres with us. I am always amazed by not only the beautiful flowers but also how they are presented, including the lovely pots and wooden stands. The total balance is beautiful. It looks almost like art, if you know what I mean...

Karl, I've been enjoying your pictures! Which are your favorite seedings rignt now?  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 04, 2012, 01:09:48 PM
Wonderful plants, Karl. Love your H. nobilis 'Cecilie'.
Of your H. japonica's, for me 'Hohobeni' is the nicest!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 04, 2012, 01:15:20 PM
Nothing very special but a few H. nobilis plants are showing their first flowers of the year in the garden!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on March 04, 2012, 01:22:20 PM
Special to have these growing in the garden though, Wim, surely, :) :) ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on March 04, 2012, 03:55:52 PM
Karl, beautiful hepaticas :D Probably you've already known that 'Hohobeni' is a selection from Hepatica nobilis var. japonica f. pubescens. It's not a variety of "var. japonica f. magna" ;)

Wim, nice first flowerling plants :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 04, 2012, 06:36:39 PM
Pretty flowers Wim, Flowers are always more beautiful in the garden.

Thank you Tatsuo. Yes I know the single form of 'Hohobeni' is a pubescens selection, I mean the filled form is a japonica magna selection? I used pubescens 'Hohobeni' in a cross with transilvanica last year and the seeds has germinated, I look forward to see the flowers next year.

I could see that japanese grow the Hepaticas in clay pots, do they grow them all the time in clay pots? I have bad experience with growing Hepatica in clay pots.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 05, 2012, 03:29:15 AM
My first hepatica blooming in the garden is H. americana.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on March 05, 2012, 08:40:30 AM
Thank you Tatsuo. Yes I know the single form of 'Hohobeni' is a pubescens selection, I mean the filled form is a japonica magna selection? I used pubescens 'Hohobeni' in a cross with transilvanica last year and the seeds has germinated, I look forward to see the flowers next year.

I could see that japanese grow the Hepaticas in clay pots, do they grow them all the time in clay pots? I have bad experience with growing Hepatica in clay pots.

As far as I know, no filled form is found in "f. pubescens" variations. I don't know the filled form of 'Hoh-beni' but probably it is a "f. magna" selection, I suppose.

I'm using both clay and polythene pots and looks no problems at the same place; light, watering and feeding. Perhaps growing media is different to yours ??? It is evening here now (GMT+9:00) so I'll post the pics of my growing media tomorrow, if you are interested in ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on March 05, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
A pretty ephemeral, Julie :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 05, 2012, 05:52:02 PM
Yes Tatsuo I think it is right that my growing media is different as yours and therefore I have no good experience with growing Hepatica in clay pots. My growing media is peat, gravel, cat litter and something called Perlite. My growing media is well drained.

Hepatica japonica 'Hohobeni' did not look like the single pubescens and I dont know why they got the same name.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: chris on March 05, 2012, 07:50:35 PM
it is a nice one Karl, here a few of my collection
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on March 05, 2012, 08:32:23 PM
Chris- wow! Beautiful clear colours.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on March 05, 2012, 08:40:16 PM
The colours are just so pure in all these plants. Stunning! :o :o 8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 06, 2012, 02:55:23 AM
Chris- wow! Beautiful clear colours.
The colours are just so pure in all these plants. Stunning!)

Agree wholeheartedly with Anne and Ron!  Simply gorgeous all of them - very difficult to pick a favorite.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 06, 2012, 07:12:23 AM
it is a nice one Karl, here a few of my collection

Wonderful, Chris, as always. I love the yellow and the red one especially!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on March 06, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
Yes Tatsuo I think it is right that my growing media is different as yours and therefore I have no good experience with growing Hepatica in clay pots. My growing media is peat, gravel, cat litter and something called Perlite. My growing media is well drained.

Hepatica japonica 'Hohobeni' did not look like the single pubescens and I dont know why they got the same name.

Here is my growing media. It is a blend of several different pumice, hard kanuma and hard akadama. There are no organic matters avoiding root rot for such delicate plants because my place is very hot in summer. My growing media is extreamly drained and ventilated but keeps water in the porous grains ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on March 06, 2012, 03:50:57 PM
So you feed regularly YT?
These ingredients can be bought in UK from Bonsai nurseries.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: YT on March 06, 2012, 04:08:55 PM
So you feed regularly YT?
These ingredients can be bought in UK from Bonsai nurseries.

Yes, regular feeding with liquid organic fertiliser is necessary such inorganic soils, but during the growing seasons only. And you mind that my growing media is prepared for my place. I don't think this is the best soil mix for hepaticas, but the best for growing hepaticas at my place.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ronm on March 06, 2012, 04:13:51 PM
 " Doumo arigatou gozaimasu "
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 06, 2012, 05:47:19 PM
Beautiful Hapaticas Chris especially 'Kazan'

Tatsuo your growing media is prepared for your place and I am sure it is best soil mix for your hepaticas, we found always the best soil for us self, unfortunately first after we have killed a lot of plants :'( I don't think your mix will be the best growing media for mine hepaticas I think they will dry out to quick for me.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: chris on March 06, 2012, 08:26:28 PM
I use a variant of this mix: 1 part Akadama, 1 part Kanuma, 1 part Kyriou and 1 part leaf mould, my pots are plunged in a sandbed and I use 9-9.5-19 fertilizer also just in the growing season, from march until june and from september until end november.

here some doubles:
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 07, 2012, 05:36:06 AM
 :o :o 8) Wow Chris - All of your doubles are gorgeous, but I think I'm in love with 'Harisenbon'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: fleurbleue on March 07, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
Very nice double forms Chris  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peppa on March 08, 2012, 08:31:33 AM
I use a variant of this mix: 1 part Akadama, 1 part Kanuma, 1 part Kyriou and 1 part leaf mould, my pots are plunged in a sandbed and I use 9-9.5-19 fertilizer also just in the growing season, from march until june and from september until end november.

here some doubles:

Beautiful flowers, Chris! :D  Your mix must be very expensive since you live far away from Japan... :o When I started to grow some Japanese alpine plants, I was trying to get these components in the US where I live now, but since they are very hard to obtain, I have been using what's available around here... Still trying to figure out what is the best, though... ::)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: chasw on March 08, 2012, 04:54:09 PM
Wow,what fantastic flowers Chris

And Peppa,have you tried a local Bonsai specialist for some of the components we are lucky to have this company nearby,have put the link but have no connection with them at all

http://www.bonsai-uk.co.uk/index.php
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: angie on March 08, 2012, 09:05:55 PM
Chris your double white is just perfection   8).

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peppa on March 09, 2012, 07:14:32 AM
And Peppa,have you tried a local Bonsai specialist for some of the components we are lucky to have this company nearby,have put the link but have no connection with them at all
http://www.bonsai-uk.co.uk/index.php

Thanks for the input, Chas! I might have to check and see how much these media cost at our local Bonsai places...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 10, 2012, 05:03:46 PM
This year there have been 9 blue filled forms in my Hepatica nobilis cross. There have also been a few good cross in my Hepatica japonica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: fredg on March 10, 2012, 05:08:30 PM
Hepatica nobilis is flowering heavily this year.
It's been in that tub for years, it doesn't seem to mind. ;D
I just wish the colour would come out properly.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Michael J Campbell on March 10, 2012, 06:00:14 PM
Very nice Karl,especially the first one.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 10, 2012, 06:37:25 PM
Very nice Karl,especially the first one.

Have to agree with Michael, Karl. I love how it is still very clear that the second layer are altered stamens
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on March 11, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
That's my favourite also.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 11, 2012, 10:26:59 PM
1 part Akadama, 1 part Kanuma, 1 part Kyriou

What are these ingredients please? Not things I would find in the supermarket with the cocoa and coconut I presume. :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: wolfgang vorig on March 16, 2012, 03:58:08 PM
my Hepatica today
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Don B on March 17, 2012, 12:59:56 AM
Our native hepatica here in central Iowa is H. nobilis acuta (acutiloba), which is very common in our woods, ranging normally from off white to pale blue. However, nearby on a limestone ridge I found a colony that showed deeper blue flowers, and several years ago collected some seed. The resulting plants are now maturing, and I'm pretty happy: the typical "blue" hepatica is shown on the top picture, a pretty nice blue is second, and then my prize last.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 17, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Hi Don - Bingo is very very nice!  Looks like your "bluer" has some extra petals.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Don B on March 17, 2012, 01:50:11 AM
It does, and is really a more attractive flower. There is quite a bit of variation in my seedlings. Here is one that I assume has a virus, and will probably get the heave-ho:
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: tetsuo on March 17, 2012, 09:06:08 AM
Nice Yukiwarisou, Wolfgang and Don!
Don, I don't think that the Hepatica is infected with virus.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 17, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
Don & Tetsuo, I don't know if they are virus infected but if you sow seeds from such plants, some of the seedlings will have the same characteristerics....and since most of the virusses are not transmitted by seed...I would doubt it is virus too, but you can't be sure until they've been tested!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: tetsuo on March 17, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
Thanks for good advice,Wim.

My first impression is that Don's pic is attractive rare form of hepatica and not
viral(mycoplasma) infection.
For, the shape of petal seems to be natural and not curled. Though petals are a little a bit rounded.
Don,are there any chance of hybridisation ?
I have sometimes experienced of viral infecetion with Lilium ,Trillium and others. The symptom of infection
are often appeared at the leaves and petals or sepals.
I hope Don get seeds.then grow and propagate widely.

We call them " Shibori","Sakiwake", "Chimera"etc.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on March 17, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
Howdy All,

Just started catching up with the Hepatica area...... some of the stuff in here is breathtaking..... in fact most of it is.  Wow!!!!!!!!!  Absolutely amazing.

Tetsuo, the pics from the show are wonderful to see.  Such a wonderful opportunity to see what the top growers in Japan are producing, but the sale stands nearly had me in tears.  If only we could buy them.  :'(  We always want what we can't have.

As Lesley said, the same is for Janis Ruksan's catalogue, although I never look at that as I don't want to cry for days afterwards.  ::)

Thanks so much to everyone who's posted pics here this topic.  So beautiful!! 8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Ulla Hansson on March 17, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
Don, I have a Hepatica 'Prickel' that looks like yours. It is very variable. Sometimes blue, blue white, white blue dots, half blue half white. When I seeds on it so the seedlings will be alike. Sorry, I have no picture.
 Sends a link to an image. Hope it works.
 http://shop.blomstergarden.se/func/img.php?id=2227
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on March 17, 2012, 04:55:41 PM
A few Hepatica's in my garden today.

H. 'Blue Eyes'
H. 'Blue Jewel'
H. 'Willem's Blauw' (because Willem gave it to me without a name)

Lina.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Don B on March 17, 2012, 05:12:42 PM
It's nice to know my Hepatica acutiloba may just be flamboyant rather than ill (the foliage looks fine). I'll spare it. The reason I was particularly thinking disease was the greenish blotching on some of the flowers, which maybe shows up on a couple of these pictures. Every flower is different on the plant (these are all from this plant):
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Don B on March 17, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
I managed to post post one picture twice- here is the other flower:
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: mark smyth on March 17, 2012, 05:23:48 PM
Hepatica 'Prickle' 

sadly my parent plant of H. 'Prickle' died over the winter but to my surprise I just noticed that it's seedlings flowering now, sown in 2009, are coming true from open pollinated seeds.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: mark smyth on March 17, 2012, 05:35:16 PM
This was the parent this time last year or the year before
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: razvan chisu on March 18, 2012, 07:11:24 PM
Spring is finally here. 21C today (-11C in the morning a week ago) and the first Hepatica flowers
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 18, 2012, 08:34:51 PM
Spring is finally here. 21C today (-11C in the morning a week ago) and the first Hepatica flowers

And a very nice soft colour that is, Razvan!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: wolfgang vorig on March 20, 2012, 03:07:08 PM
Hepatica nobilis
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 22, 2012, 06:07:43 PM
What a wealth of splendid Hepatica's !!!

I have H. "Millstream Merlin" in flower right now !  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on March 22, 2012, 08:14:03 PM
I was looking at Millstream Merlin today. It does not have stamens. Does anyone know if it will set seed if pollinated with something else?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on March 22, 2012, 08:36:46 PM
I was looking at Millstream Merlin today. It does not have stamens. Does anyone know if it will set seed if pollinated with something else?  

No it won't because Millstream Merlin is a hybrid between Hh acutiloba and transsilvanica.  Other "maiden" forms of pure species can set seed if pollinated from another plant.  There is some recent research which says that Hepatica acutiloba can be found in male and female forms.  I have a maiden form of pure H acutiloba whose flowers look very like Millstream Merlin but is a taller plant and has H acutiloba leaves, unlike Millstream Merlin which has inherited some characteristics from H transsilvanica leaves.  One theory is that a maiden form of H acutiloba is the mother of Millstream Merlin, pollinated with H transsilvanica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on March 22, 2012, 10:48:07 PM
Thanks for the excellent info, Diane.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on March 23, 2012, 03:40:36 AM
Anne,

I'd be daubing pollen on it anyway, just in case.  Sometimes nature finds a way.  ;D  Certainly not going to harm it trying, and if you get seed from it, brilliant.

I was always told that Anemone blanda 'Radar' was unable to set seed.  Mine did, after a number of years of trying each year.  I now have a seedling that almost matches it's mum.... which I am hoping will be longer lived than the original which I know very few people can keep going here in Australia at least. ::)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on March 25, 2012, 08:40:32 PM
Already done, Paul. ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 27, 2012, 06:50:59 AM
Here is a small collection of the filled Hepatica nobilis that have come this year. As you can see they are different and there is pollen in all of them so of course I use them in my crosses and I hope there will come other color or forms.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 27, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
Here is a small collection of the filled Hepatica nobilis that have come this year. As you can see they are different and there is pollen in all of them so of course I use them in my crosses and I hope there will come other color or forms.

Wonderful, Karl!! Looking forward to seeing some new forms in a couple of years!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on March 27, 2012, 08:35:29 PM
A wonderful deep colour, too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on March 28, 2012, 03:59:58 AM
Wow, that is a rather lovely windowsill collection.  ;D

My one and only double Hep didn't make it unfortunately.  I was actually down visiting the lovely person who gave it to me at the time that the snails or something consumed every leaf it had.  It had flowered the previous year, done quite well for me and looked like it was producing a second crown, but losing every leaf on it in spring just stopped it completely and it never produced another leaf, just withering away.  I was mortified.  It was a double pink, and I was pleased as punch to have it.  I would have thought it would survive being defoliated once, but apparently not.  :'(  The doubles are so incredibly rare here, which I think is why whatever beastie that attacked it chose that particular plant and ignored all the others.  Whether it was bird, snails or mice I don't know. :o  I've never had the heart to tell the person who gave it to me, but I am guessing that he'll know now after reading this. ;)  I feel like it was such a waste, and like I've let him down by failing with it. :'(

Now I am waiting and hoping for germination in seed pots from seed sown last year from parents with the double genes.  Fingers and everything crossed for that. ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Loripep on March 28, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Hello everyone;

I've started my own hepatica collections (pics to follow soon I hope) but it's very tough to source out plants/seeds.

Can anyone suggest a source to obtain material directly from Japan? How about any of Severin Schlyter's crosses.

I have one source in Canada for the filled japonicas but they have limited stock.

Thanks everyone,

Lori
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Peppa on March 30, 2012, 02:04:00 AM
Hello everyone;

I've started my own hepatica collections (pics to follow soon I hope) but it's very tough to source out plants/seeds.

Can anyone suggest a source to obtain material directly from Japan? How about any of Severin Schlyter's crosses.

I have one source in Canada for the filled japonicas but they have limited stock.

Thanks everyone,

Lori

Lori, so far, the only Japanese site I know of that sells Hepatica seeds is http://www.yukiwarisouen.jp/index.htm. I got their seed list several years ago but I haven't ordered from them yet... I remember that their seeds are from crosses of well-known Hepaticas. They said that the seeds will be ready around mid-May. You might want to contact them as to how you could place an order. The site is all in Japanese, however...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ian mcenery on March 30, 2012, 09:26:47 AM
Some of the varieties shown here are amazing (and expensive) but here a few 2 year old seedlings that cost nowt and are still lovely. These will go out in the garden after flowering and a new batch brought on

Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on March 30, 2012, 09:38:50 AM
A very nice display. Lovely colors.
Not only the sturdy white and green of galanthus. ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
....... here a few 2 year old seedlings that cost nowt and are still lovely. These will go out in the garden after flowering and a new batch brought on.


Very nice Ian, not only good flowers but some well marked foliage too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on March 30, 2012, 11:20:32 AM
Maggi,

I was going to say exactly the same thing.  Some nicely marked foliage in there, and a lovely range of flower colours.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on March 30, 2012, 11:57:34 AM
Some of the varieties shown here are amazing (and expensive) but here a few 2 year old seedlings that cost nowt and are still lovely. These will go out in the garden after flowering and a new batch brought on

Are these my babies or yours Ian?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2012, 12:44:41 PM
Your hepatica babies are just through the ground here, Diane..... tiny, but healthy seedlings.  8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on March 30, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
Your hepatica babies are just through the ground here, Diane..... tiny, but healthy seedlings.  8)
Oh, great! nice to hear.  I'd forgotten you'd had seed - was that 2010 harvest? ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on March 30, 2012, 05:26:51 PM
Some of the varieties shown here are amazing (and expensive) but here a few 2 year old seedlings that cost nowt and are still lovely. These will go out in the garden after flowering and a new batch brought on

Are these my babies or yours Ian?

Speaking of your babies, Diane.  ;) These are some of yours, sown in 2010 and they have flowered this year for the first time!  :-*
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2012, 05:57:25 PM
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Oh, great! nice to hear.  I'd forgotten you'd had seed - was that 2010 harvest?
No Diane, these were  2011.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Diane Clement on March 30, 2012, 07:35:16 PM
Speaking of your babies, Diane.  ;) These are some of yours, sown in 2010 and they have flowered this year for the first time!  :-* 

Oh, that's nice to see, they've done well, thanks for posting. 
Maggi, yours will be another year or two before we see the flowers!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
I rather think so, Diane, they are just little cotyledons through the soil at present.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ian mcenery on March 30, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
A very nice display. Lovely colors.
Not only the sturdy white and green of galanthus. ;)

Hagen I didn't notice the snowdrop seedling until you mentioned it. These weeds get everywhere ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: ian mcenery on March 30, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
Some of the varieties shown here are amazing (and expensive) but here a few 2 year old seedlings that cost nowt and are still lovely. These will go out in the garden after flowering and a new batch brought on

Are these my babies or yours Ian?

Yes Diane some of them are from your seed so thanks and others were from my own plants.  ;).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 31, 2012, 02:06:59 PM
Three Hepatica nobilis forms selected from wild in Latvia by my friend Juris Egle - famous tulip breeder in Latvia. Many of his varieties are grown in large scale in Holland. You can find something about him on     
http://picasaweb.google.com/104093660717292700553

Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: tetsuo on April 01, 2012, 07:17:12 AM
Nice yukiwarisou, Wim and Janis!
I post pics of ' Sakiwake'.  Sakiwake means two colours or forms in one plant.
Intermediate patterns will often appear.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: fleurbleue on April 01, 2012, 09:49:57 AM
A really little jewel Tetsuo  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2012, 10:05:32 AM

 Sweet flowers , super photos.  8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: tetsuo on April 01, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
Fleurbleue,I think same as you.Hepatica japonica is small
and pretty.
Maggie, thanks for reparing my posting. I will care hereafter.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2012, 03:50:23 PM
Dear Tetsuo,it is my pleasure to help. It is easy to make this small errors... they are of no importance.  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Jonny_SE on April 01, 2012, 04:43:55 PM
I have been thinking about the choice of names when it comes to diff. Hepatica nobilis..Who decide those names?...and when are they valid?..Like Magnolias they have to be registered....is it the same with Hepatica?..And how "special" does they have to be?...Many questions and maybe someone knows...I have mine by numbers..1,2.3 etc....mostly because i think they are too similar to others..or they are to mine....Jonny
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Lina Hesseling on April 01, 2012, 09:24:18 PM
Jonny, these are very nice Hepatica's. My favorite one is number 3.
I don't have answers to your questions, sorry.

Lina.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: tetsuo on April 02, 2012, 03:45:21 AM
 Nice Yukiwarisou, Jonny.

 There are many Hepatica which have familiar names.
 205 names have been registered from 1997 to 2011
by Japanese Hepatica Association.
 Their names are like nicknames.
 I think more 500 Hepatica are named by growers or nursery.
  There is no rule of naming.
  Many people grow nice Yukiwarisou and enjoy new nickname.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on April 11, 2012, 06:47:40 PM
Some leaves forms, almost as beautiful as the flowers  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on April 12, 2012, 06:47:41 AM
Wonderful leaves, Karl! I love the frilly ones!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on April 13, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
Karl,

I think I've seen them from time to time here on the forums, but those leaves are amazing.  That lovely ruffled with the dark edges is to die for!! :o  Wow.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: kalle-k.dk on April 15, 2012, 07:12:59 AM
Beautiful colour forms Ian, Wim, Jonny and Janis  :o

Paul; 1040645 - 647 - 652 is seedplants from my Hepatica nobilis Cremar 430. There are also many good leaf forms of Hepatica nobilis v. japonica and now when almost all in the glass house are finish with flowering, it is good to look at the leaves. There are still Hepatica in the garden with flowers. Hepatica nobilis v. japonica 'Arata' is one of my own cross. Right now I prick out in pots and I'm still not finished.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Stephen Vella on April 15, 2012, 10:53:15 AM
Jonny to answer your question about cv names and having them valid, if they are registared with an association, be published in a magazine or a nursery catalogue will simple do. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on April 16, 2012, 01:17:14 AM
Karl,

Your "Arata" is a beauty.  And those pink leaves in the first one are amazing.   :o :o  Does anyone here in Australia who is reading this have any of these interesting leaf forms?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on April 17, 2012, 04:17:16 PM
Wow, Karl. That 'Arata'  :o :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Hoy on April 20, 2012, 06:47:02 PM
Can't compete with the pot-grown specimens!

I visited this wild population of Hepatica consisting of several 100 specimens today. About 30-40% of them are red and a few white also. No doubles though ;) but I spotted a bicoloured white and blue (sorry no picture). The colour is deeper red (and blue) than shown. 50m from this population is another (not more than 50-100 specimens) but almost all are redflowered. 100m in another direction is a very big population of only blue specimens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on April 20, 2012, 06:49:10 PM
I found this one at a plantfair today! I thought the leaves were quite nice!

Hepatica nobilis 'Perrine's Pink'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: fleurbleue on April 20, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
I agree with you Wim  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: WimB on April 20, 2012, 08:09:20 PM
I agree with you Wim  ;)

It's one of Thierry's selections (as you had guessed probably  ;))
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Paul T on April 21, 2012, 04:34:23 AM
Trond,

Great colours.

Wim,

What wonderful leaves. :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: annew on April 21, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Fantastic leaves, Wim.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: scilla on April 22, 2012, 08:08:39 AM
Awesome, Wim. Thanks for showing. 8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Melvyn Jope on May 05, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
One advantage of the constant cold and wet weather that we are having is that the Hepatica foliage is looking nice and fresh.
Would still like it to be a bit warmer though!.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Michael J Campbell on August 10, 2012, 04:54:19 PM
Hepatica japonica kuukai in bloom yesterday at least 6 months out of season.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on August 10, 2012, 07:06:58 PM
Wow Michael, that is early.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Guff on September 17, 2012, 01:48:53 AM
Any USA members have Hepatica seed to trade come spring? Looking for wild single forms mixed colors.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on September 20, 2012, 03:56:33 PM
Guff,
I should have a reasonable amount of H. Acutiloba seeds next spring.  However, their colors are definitely on a pale side, with some of them in medium pink.  I also have a small amount of H. Americana, in a medium blue color.  If interested, I will save them for you.
Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Guff on September 29, 2012, 01:04:25 AM
Koko thanks. Yes I would like them.

Let me know in the spring and I will send postage. I will have plenty of  hederifolium/coum, hellebore and crocus seeds if your interested.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on September 29, 2012, 01:02:49 PM
Guff,

Let's hope for a good seed harvesting next spring.  Buds are forming right now and some of them are quite plump.  Just hope they will be able to go through winter without too much hardship.

Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Botanica on October 03, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Hello everybody

My small contribution

I have only two plants of Hepatica nobilis  :P , But good grow !

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eopHH9PsFJ0/UGidxobE64I/AAAAAAAAA-I/YvdS9jo5mwU/s640/IMGP1209b.jpg)

If someone have some seed of Hepatica species ..i can exchange with other seed of my personnal collecting  ;) ;D

I've seen that Hepatica could be divide in a post of this forum..You also use this technique ?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: chris on December 14, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
here in the greenhouse some of the Hepaticas showing their first flower:
H."Salmon Pink'
H.'Shiouden'
H.'Tikinsyo'
H.H.Wakakusa"
H.white double
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: fleurbleue on December 14, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
Thank you Chris to share your little jewels with us  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on December 14, 2012, 09:25:36 AM
Yes, thank you,Chris. And good to 'see' you  here again  :)
Such beautiful flowers at this time of year to brighten cold days - perfect!
It seems magical to me that they begin so early.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 14, 2012, 10:39:37 AM
Fantastic flowers Chris !

It seems magical to me that they begin so early.

One could wonder, Maggi - are they the last of last season's or the first of the new season...  :-\
Title: Re: Hepatica 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on December 14, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
I know what you mean, Luc - it is something that is often a puzzle when thinking about late/early bulbs but somehow, for me, anyway, I have no doubt these hepaticas are "early"
I base this on "feeling" - nothing scientific!
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