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Specific Families and Genera => Rhododendron and other Ericaceae => Topic started by: arisaema on April 25, 2011, 10:36:00 AM

Title: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: arisaema on April 25, 2011, 10:36:00 AM
I don't know much about Rhododendrons, but I really like the two cultivars 'Egret' (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://freespace.virgin.net/kate.almond/EC04egret.jpg&imgrefurl=http://freespace.virgin.net/kate.almond/EC04.htm&usg=__Keq6G2-js5T6xbHkQRW81mUwLXs=&h=368&w=500&sz=78&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=HEaEdXs9YFeCWM:&tbnh=144&tbnw=194&ei=GUC1TfGnA8Ws8QPm9emWDA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drhododendron%2Begret%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GUEA_enNO332NO332%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D603%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=63&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=35&ty=39) and 'Maricee' (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/image_files/diary/sizedrhodo%2520maricee7136.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Midland/%2BMay%2B/197/&usg=__dD57gwCeJkDxdmJaHFE0wKibeEE=&h=473&w=640&sz=131&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=ATaFeea_-4yYfM:&tbnh=139&tbnw=211&ei=RUC1TeHxHYOp8APNh_WVDA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drhododendron%2Bmaricee%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GUEA_enNO332NO332%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D603%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=319&vpy=299&dur=63&hovh=193&hovw=261&tx=191&ty=183&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0). Unfortunately 'Egret' is a bit on the tender side here, and I haven't been able to find 'Maricee' for sale anywhere, so I was wondering if anyone could suggest other white or pink-flowered cultivars that look similar?
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: Maggi Young on April 25, 2011, 11:22:29 AM
John Weagle speaks very highly of the hybrid 'Isola Bella'  : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1723.msg44027#msg44027   But it hasn't the little waxy bells of Egret or the daphne flowers of Maricee... :-X


'Egret' and 'Maricee' both do  well here in Aberdeen so I haven't much explored any  alternatives - will do some thinking!
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: johnw on April 25, 2011, 11:24:52 AM
Arisaema

Sarled is very close to Maricee. There is a hybrid called Blushing Bride, June Bride or something ...Bride, (sargentianum x kotschyi) which is very good and with a touch of pink.  R. trichostomum (some good pink forms), R. sargentianum (also a yellow form) or R. primuliflorum (growable in Upsalla) are also very good.
All are very similar to Marice.


I am not sure where this photo came from. (Sorry, it's in the garden here.  ::))

Glendoick Gardens should have most of these.

johnw
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: arisaema on April 25, 2011, 11:34:30 AM
'Isola Bella' is very beautiful, definitely one to consider, but it lacks the "airyness" of both 'Egret' and 'Maricee'. 'Egret' does survive here, but it's frozen back two years in a row, so I doubt I'll ever get much flowering from it... (Ironically both Rh. cinnabarinum and 'Cinnkeys' have remained completely unscathed!)
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: arisaema on April 25, 2011, 11:49:23 AM
John;

Thanks for these suggestions, the hybrid you posted is absolutely stunning, as are all the others, judging from pics on Google. I had hoped to avoid importing from Glendoick as I've already placed an order from Esveld, but doubt I'll be able to resist the temptation... ;D
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: Maggi Young on April 25, 2011, 12:19:27 PM
If you want I could send cutting material later.... I grow Sarled, Egret, Maricee and primuliflorum.... or I could get my act in gear and make some cuttings here! 
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: arisaema on April 25, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
Thanks Maggi, I'd love some cutting material, but I'm just not sure they'd survive in the mail... 3 1/2 weeks was the average delivery time last summer on letters between the UK and Norway, I remember wondering if they had started using mules and sailships to cut their CO2 emissions ::)
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: johnw on April 25, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
Another possibility is 'Liz Ann'.  To tell the truth I need a very large single malt to tell the differences between 'Sarled', 'Maricee' and 'Liz Ann'.

johnw
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: birck j c on May 03, 2011, 10:43:16 PM
(sargentianum x kotschyi) were given a name here in denmark
as it has become very popular here

name:   Brides bouquet

and here a photo from a local old plant

easy to grow and easy to root .
birck
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: Maggi Young on May 03, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
Hey, Jens, Welcome!
Bride's Bouquet is very lovely - but we know there is no shortage of good rhodos in Denmark, eh?!!  ;)
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: johnw on May 04, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
Jens  - Good to get the correct name and what a specimen.  Lovely pronum in the left front corner too.  What's the name of the pruple in the upper left corner?

johnw
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: birck j c on May 15, 2011, 02:21:15 PM
Has been in the garden to look for it -but its long gone - so its history!!!!
jens
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: birck j c on May 17, 2011, 08:54:19 AM
Looking for more pronum's John?

Here Tower Court/Warren Berg form


And    Kilbride/Cooke form with the non Ericacea peatgrown Lewisia tweedy in front


Pronum is a shy flowering specie - but it can be helped.
Graft it on top of a 3 ft Cunningham's White - leaving some foliage below the graft
to get the sap flowing. The plant in the photo have flowered now for several years
- six flowering buds this year.
jens
 



Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: Maggi Young on May 17, 2011, 10:56:14 AM
Quote
Pronum is a shy flowering specie - but it can be helped.
Graft it on top of a 3 ft Cunningham's White - leaving some foliage below the graft
to get the sap flowing. The plant in the photo have flowered now for several years
- six flowering buds this year.
jens

An interesting  experiment... but I'm not sure it was worth the effort.... the end result will never be beautiful, will it? :-\
Title: Re: Rhododendrons that look like 'Egret' and 'Maricee'?
Post by: birck j c on May 20, 2011, 08:22:24 AM
You are quite right - it has nothing to do with being beautiful
but the challenge to the damed thing to flower.

one more photo to show the flowering
jens

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