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Specific Families and Genera => Primula => Topic started by: Giles on February 06, 2011, 06:31:05 PM

Title: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on February 06, 2011, 06:31:05 PM
'Miel' (Barnhaven).
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Post by: David Nicholson on February 06, 2011, 07:51:17 PM
Nice (David) ;D
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Post by: Lesley Cox on February 06, 2011, 10:12:43 PM
A lovely colour. Somewhat peaches and cream. :P
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Post by: johngennard on February 07, 2011, 08:47:20 PM
A couple of asiatics.

Primula 'Tantallon'
     "         "        close-up
Primula bhutanica
    "          "         close-up
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Post by: Lesley Cox on February 07, 2011, 09:23:07 PM
Oh God, they're gorgeous. :P
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Post by: Armin on February 08, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
I second you Lesley, very lovely 8)
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Post by: Olga Bondareva on February 08, 2011, 04:49:53 PM
I third.  :) Love asiatics.
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Post by: sippa on February 08, 2011, 09:15:21 PM

Fabulous Plants, wish I could grow them here.

Marianne
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 08, 2011, 09:59:52 PM
Can I add my praise ?? ;)
They look gorgeous John !!
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Post by: ChrisB on February 12, 2011, 04:47:01 PM
Primula 'Barbara Midwinter' in bloom in the greenhouse today.  Also, and too early really, P. auricula 'Brookfield'
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Post by: David Nicholson on February 12, 2011, 05:05:34 PM
Your 'Brookfield' is early Chris but very welcome.
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Post by: Giles on February 17, 2011, 10:14:58 PM
P.vulgaris sibthorpii
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Post by: ChrisB on February 17, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
Lovely photo Giles...
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Post by: Lesley Cox on February 17, 2011, 11:56:56 PM
P.vulgaris sibthorpii

I love this primrose. I grow a mat of it with P. x Juliana 'Wanda,' and the dark indigo-coloured x Juliana 'Jill,' in the hope the three will run together. The 3 shades go very well together.
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Post by: johnw on February 19, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
A couple of asiatics.

Primula 'Tantallon'
     "         "        close-up
Primula bhutanica
    "          "         close-up

Oh my, superb.

johnw
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Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2011, 09:41:48 PM
Another asiatic,"ARDUAINE" pronounced I think "ARDUY" but no doubt Maggie will enlighten us.They are two different plants.
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Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2011, 09:48:16 PM
Named for a lovely rhododendron garden on the west of Scotland.... Arduaine is  pronounced "Ardoony"  :)

http://www.nts.org.uk/Property/6/
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Post by: ChrisB on March 01, 2011, 10:18:37 AM
What wonderful plants!  I just love that blue colour on the farinous foliage.  They don't look real.  Sure wish I could grow them.
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Post by: Giles on March 06, 2011, 04:10:44 PM
Some doubles:
Quaker's Bonnet
Easter Bonnet (with Miel in background)

Perle von Bottrop ('Super Wanda') only just mine.
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Post by: ruweiss on March 07, 2011, 08:53:36 PM
Glad to watch the Primulas starting to flower in the alpine house.
Last year I had massive problems with root fungi and transplanted
the remaining plants to new soil. It was rather late in the year, but
almost all the plants survived this rude procedure.
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Post by: Maggi Young on March 07, 2011, 09:32:26 PM
Good to hear that your treatment to get rid ofthe root fungus was successful Rudi.



 'Elke Weiss ' is a very beautiful flower: why am I not surprised?  8).
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Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2011, 06:51:27 PM
Rudi,  really like your P. 'Joan Hughes' !
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Post by: Giles on March 09, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
P.juliae (very soon), plus somethings to pass the time...
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Post by: Giles on March 09, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
Primula vulgaris 'Taigetos'
plus  (  :D )
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Post by: Maggi Young on March 09, 2011, 08:13:06 PM
Crikey, Giles, I know Easter is a moveable feast but yours is a bit on the early side, eh?  :D
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Post by: ruweiss on March 10, 2011, 09:19:06 PM
After a look at the Pr. vulgaris sipthorpii which naturalizes nicely in our meadow we visited
their more glamorous cousins in a nursery in our region. Their main job is raising homeplants
for gardencenters and builder's markets, but they also sell single plants and have an enormous
range of different plants in an outstanding quality. The friendly owner told us, that the small seedlings
get potted in September/Oktober and February/March they must be ready for sale.
Incredibly!










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Post by: Armin on March 10, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
Who can kindly explain me the differences between Primula vulgaris ssp. vulgaris and P. vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii?
Is it just by colour (sulfurous/pink) and natural distribution (Europe/Turkey)?
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Post by: DaveM on March 12, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
Yes, it is essentially by colour, ssp vulgaris is a lovely 'primrose yellow' whereas ssp sibthorpii has a huge range from purple, lilac, red, pink to white with only rare yellow. John Richards also gives one or two other minor differences. Ssp vulgaris occurs throughout the whole species range whereas ssp sibthorpii occurs in northern and central Greece through Turkey to the Caucasus. To see some of the range of colours of sibthorpii see Pam Eveleigh's 'Primulaworld' website.
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Post by: Gerdk on March 12, 2011, 07:03:06 PM
Here are two Primula species which I regard highly -

Primula megasaefolia for its long flowering periode +
Primula marginata for its toughness

Gerd
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Post by: Giles on March 12, 2011, 07:43:19 PM
The first 2 are mine, the third is from Wisley.
P.juliae
P.'Tipperary Purple'
P.'Schneekissen'
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Post by: Armin on March 13, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
Yes, it is essentially by colour, ssp vulgaris is a lovely 'primrose yellow' whereas ssp sibthorpii has a huge range from purple, lilac, red, pink to white with only rare yellow. John Richards also gives one or two other minor differences. Ssp vulgaris occurs throughout the whole species range whereas ssp sibthorpii occurs in northern and central Greece through Turkey to the Caucasus. To see some of the range of colours of sibthorpii see Pam Eveleigh's 'Primulaworld' website.

Hi Dave,
thank you very much for the details!
I've checked 'Primulaworld' web pages prior my question - excellent images and reference but no written description of the distinct differences.
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Post by: WimB on March 17, 2011, 09:00:43 AM
A small Primula started flowering here this week:

Primula 'Aire Waves'
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Post by: Giles on March 17, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
Very nice, Wim.
Here:
Primula 'Elizabeth Browning'
Primula 'Lady Greer'
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Post by: Giles on March 17, 2011, 05:10:36 PM
A hose-in-hose seedling
Wanda Jack-in the-Green
Primula 'Blue Velvet' about an inch high, and vibrant slug pellet blue.
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Post by: fleurbleue on March 17, 2011, 05:13:18 PM
I love white Primula and your "Aire Waves" is very cute Wim
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Post by: daveyp1970 on March 17, 2011, 06:53:22 PM
 a few from me sorry no names.
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Post by: mark smyth on March 17, 2011, 07:16:05 PM
Can anyone suggest early Primulas for troughs and in/beside or under over hanging tufa?
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Post by: WimB on March 17, 2011, 07:21:04 PM
Very nice, Wim.
Here:
Primula 'Elizabeth Browning'
Primula 'Lady Greer'

I love white Primula and your "Aire Waves" is very cute Wim

Thanks, Giles and Nicole.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on March 17, 2011, 09:59:29 PM
Mark Primula petiolaris is a good one and others in the same section. They're very ground (trough) hugging with stemless flowers. Also P. clarkei or warshenewskiana. These all need to be cool.
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Post by: mark smyth on March 17, 2011, 10:02:21 PM
Thanks Lesley. I have warshennewskiana. I will Google the others

Mark Primula petiolaris is a good one and others in the same section. They're very ground (trough) hugging with stemless flowers. Also P. clarkei or warshenewskiana. These all need to be cool.
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Post by: ruweiss on March 18, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
Primula allionii and their hybrids are now at their best in the Alpine house:

'Saphire'
'Wharfedale Ling'
'Broadwell Milkmaid'
Got this white beauty with a wrong naame and would be grateful for an
exact identification
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Post by: David Nicholson on March 19, 2011, 10:04:51 AM
Lovely Rudi. They make me feel withdrawal symptons as I sold my Primula collection last year and now grow very few.
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Post by: Gerdk on March 19, 2011, 06:17:25 PM
Primula marginata - now in full bloom

Gerd
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Post by: Lesley Cox on March 19, 2011, 08:53:03 PM
Mark, I'm not sure that your primula is minima. Perhaps it depends on how much that species varies. I would have expected the foliage to be more toothed and certainly the flowers should be more deeply and evenly indented, each petal split almost into two parts. I wonder if yours could be P. x Bileckii which I don't have nowadays so my memory may be at fault. Could others comment please?
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Post by: Giles on March 20, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
In case you missed it, it's here too.........
From Wisley, this morning.
Primula 'Gigha'
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Post by: Giles on March 23, 2011, 11:34:59 AM
Primula bellidifolia
Primula deflexa
Primula vulgaris sibthorpii seedling
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Post by: Giles on March 23, 2011, 11:37:21 AM
3 modernish primulas
Primula 'Sundae'
Primula 'Sunshine Susie'
Primula 'Innisfree'
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Post by: Giles on March 23, 2011, 11:39:41 AM
3 oldish primulas
'Old Port'
'McWatts Cream'
'Rowena'
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Post by: Giles on March 23, 2011, 11:42:05 AM
I'm giving up growing them all in pots and am gradually planting them all out, and will protect with cloches if needed.
Those that are already planted out are doing very well.
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Post by: Giles on March 24, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
'Blue Sapphire'
'Hall Barn Blue'
'Snowcushion'
P.vulgaris 'Viridis'
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Post by: Giles on March 27, 2011, 03:37:22 PM
Primula deflexa
Primula Barnhaven Mauve Victorian
Primrose seedling
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Post by: Giles on March 31, 2011, 08:59:52 PM
P. x wanda 'Tomato Red' (quite....'striking'    ;D )
P. 'Lambrook Mauve'
P. 'Miss Indigo' ..taken earlier in the week.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on March 31, 2011, 10:04:31 PM
I feally love those blue doubles. I have half a dozen different now, from very pale sky blue to the very deep 'Miss Indigo' and the Ballarine cobalt you showed earlier Giles (showed somewhere, can't see it on this thread). In a patch, they enhance each other beautifully.
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Post by: mark smyth on March 31, 2011, 10:21:24 PM
Mark, I'm not sure that your primula is minima. Perhaps it depends on how much that species varies. I would have expected the foliage to be more toothed and certainly the flowers should be more deeply and evenly indented, each petal split almost into two parts. I wonder if yours could be P. x Bileckii which I don't have nowadays so my memory may be at fault. Could others comment please?

Lesley I think your are correct http://www.evermaynursery.com/images/store/productimages/1091/P.bilecki_lg.jpg (http://www.evermaynursery.com/images/store/productimages/1091/P.bilecki_lg.jpg)
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Post by: johnw on March 31, 2011, 10:33:37 PM
Mark, I'm not sure that your primula is minima. Perhaps it depends on how much that species varies. I would have expected the foliage to be more toothed and certainly the flowers should be more deeply and evenly indented, each petal split almost into two parts. I wonder if yours could be P. x Bileckii which I don't have nowadays so my memory may be at fault. Could others comment please?

Lesley I think your are correct http://www.evermaynursery.com/images/store/productimages/1091/P.bilecki_lg.jpg (http://www.evermaynursery.com/images/store/productimages/1091/P.bilecki_lg.jpg)

Is this the same as P. x steinii which I have had in a trough for far too many years?  Seems mine is less pink.

johnw
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Post by: mark smyth on March 31, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
now I'm confused ???
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 01, 2011, 12:35:39 AM
Well there are - or were at some stage - quite a few of these little auricula group hybrids and involving several of the small, pink/purple flowered species. There was x Bileckii, x Forsteri, x Heerii and others. Most have been in New Zealand at one time or another, going back over 50 years I imagine, but if any are still around the names have become confused so you're not the only one Mark.
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
These hybrids are a bit if a mish-mash.....  I have seen P. x steinii as P. X forsteri f. steinii (P. hirsuta X P. minima)  as in this Primula World page:
http://www.primulaworld.com/pwweb/gallery/slides/XsteiniiMI1.html

Check the pictures back and forth of this one to see other hybrids. I'm sorry, I cannot find the source page for the hybrids on the PW site, only this link to a mid-way sequence.
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Post by: Giles on April 01, 2011, 07:05:51 PM
Barnhaven's 'Little Egypt' strain
'Ingram's Blue'
'Tomato Red' (in better light)
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 01, 2011, 07:24:17 PM
Keep 'em coming Giles, I'm enjoying these.
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Post by: Giles on April 01, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
......you'll regret saying that David, I've exercised extreme restraint so far (I've hundreds of the things  ;D ).
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 01, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
No I won't ;D
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Post by: hadacekf on April 01, 2011, 08:09:13 PM
These hybrids are a bit if a mish-mash.....  I have seen P. x steinii as P. X forsteri f. steinii (P. hirsuta X P. minima)  as in this Primula World page:
http://www.primulaworld.com/pwweb/gallery/slides/XsteiniiMI1.html

Check the pictures back and forth of this one to see other hybrids. I'm sorry, I cannot find the source page for the hybrids on the PW site, only this link to a mid-way sequence.

Primula x forsteri = P. hirsuta x P. minima

Primula x forsteri forma kelleri for plants close to hirsuta
Primula x forsteri forma steinii  for plants of intermediate form
Primula x forsteri forma bilekii for plants close to minima

there are more data in  PRIMULAS OF EUROPE & AMERIKA
by G.F. Smith, B. Burrow, D.B. Lowe
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Post by: Hoy on April 01, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
At last! My first Primula this spring. However, unknown species of Chris Chadwell seed.

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Post by: mark smyth on April 01, 2011, 08:18:04 PM
Giles I would like to know where you are buying your Primulas? I want I want!
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 01, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
At last! My first Primula this spring. However, unknown species of Chris Chadwell seed.

(Attachment Link)

Haven't a clue what it is, but it's very nice.
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Post by: Hoy on April 01, 2011, 08:24:33 PM
At last! My first Primula this spring. However, unknown species of Chris Chadwell seed.


Haven't a clue what it is, but it's very nice.
Thanks. In fact it is very nice at this point but it doesn't improve with age.
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:32:00 AM
In flower this morning.
Barnhavens:
Chartreuse strain
New Pinks strain
Tango strain
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:33:28 AM
Barnhaven doubles:
Corporal Baxter
Cherry Ripple
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:34:28 AM
Webster seedlings
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:35:25 AM
Other seedlings
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:37:04 AM
Irish Primroses:
Dark Rosaleen
Drumcliff
Guinevere
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:39:13 AM
Blue Riband
Blutenkissen
Craddock's White
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:41:04 AM
Dawn Ansell
Francisca
Lambrook Mauve
Lingwood Beauty
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
Mrs Frank Neave
Tawny Port
Old Port
Annemijne
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 11:45:53 AM
x wanda
William Genders
Wisley Red

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Post by: David Nicholson on April 02, 2011, 05:13:46 PM
Good Giles. Was the Webster seedling one of Margaret Webster's?
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Post by: Giles on April 02, 2011, 05:55:55 PM
Yes, David  ;)
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Post by: ruweiss on April 02, 2011, 09:42:58 PM
Now flowering:
Small Primula allionii 'Roya Snow' a form from the wild and
Primula palinuri which is fully hardy in my garden without
any protection, despite its southern origin.
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Post by: mark smyth on April 02, 2011, 10:06:16 PM
Can anyone recommend a good Primula book?
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2011, 10:23:35 PM
I have John Richards' Primula book to hand.... I have always found it useful.

'Primula' by John Richards published by Batsford (ISBN 0713487283)

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/CatalogAndSearch/ProductDetails.aspx?productId=9780713487282&shop=10004&type=Froogle


http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=John+Richards&bt.x=27&bt.y=15&isbn=ISBN0713487283&sts=t&tn=Primula

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Primula-John-Richards/dp/0713487283
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Post by: WimB on April 03, 2011, 06:43:54 AM
Giles, wonderful Primula's you have there. I love 'Old Port' and 'Tawny Port' especially. Here Primula maximowiczii is flowering for the first time from seed from a very kind forumnist.
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Post by: Hans J on April 03, 2011, 01:44:45 PM
Here is a pic of a Primula from me - I have received this plant from a nice friend from SRGC  ;)
The name of this plant is Primula 'John Mo' - I was surprised by the lenght of the flower stems
Knows maybe anybody more of the cultivar ?
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 03, 2011, 05:12:36 PM
Can anyone recommend a good Primula book?

John Richard's book without a doubt, but if you can get hold of a copy, 'Primulas' by the late Mary A Robinson is well worth having. It's long out of print, my copy is a 1994 impression from The Crowood Press.
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Post by: daveyp1970 on April 03, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Two plants the first is a Primula allionii(i think) that was given to me about seven years ago.The next is an alpine Auricula.
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 03, 2011, 06:29:50 PM
Two plants the first is a Primula allionii(i think) that was given to me about seven years ago.The next is an alpine Auricula.

The first one may be a hybrid with some allionii in it Dave but pure allionii's are nearly stemless with sticky leaves. I think it's probably a Border Auricula.

The second one is probably a Border Auricula too. Alpine Auriculas come in two main types- with gold centres which come in reds, browns, oranges and similar colours; and light centres (cream and white) which come in reds, purples and blues.

Nice little plants whatever they are though.
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Post by: daveyp1970 on April 03, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Thanks for that David i wasn't sure on either of them.
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Post by: mark smyth on April 03, 2011, 07:33:35 PM
Out for lunch today at a local garden centre I spotted this lovely Primula Victorian Lace among the more common Silver and Gold Lace

My white P. vulgaris
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Post by: Graham Catlow on April 03, 2011, 08:54:57 PM
Giles - some lovely primulas. I think your Avatar message should read 'Obsessed by Primulas'

Some of mine from today.

P. eliator
P. 'Wanda' Hose-In-Hose in the garden
P. 'Wanda' Hose-In-Hose' in a pot
A P. auricula cultivar but I do not know its name.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 03, 2011, 11:46:27 PM
Davey, could your first picture be P x Pubescens 'Harlow Carr?' It is a creamy-white with the palest, most delicate rose pink colouring at the edge, and nice ruffling. The pink ages out. Wonderful scent too.

And Graham, your yellow looks a lot like P. 'Broadwell Gold,' raised by the late Joe Elliott of Broadwell Alpines.
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Post by: Graham Catlow on April 04, 2011, 06:57:15 AM

And Graham, your yellow looks a lot like P. 'Broadwell Gold,' raised by the late Joe Elliott of Broadwell Alpines.

Thank you Lesley,
I have just Googled it and it looks exactly like that. Interestingly the first google link is to the SRGC site and a link to the Primula thread of April 2009 and a photo from Wim B.
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Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2011, 12:50:32 PM
Here's a couple I bought at Edinburgh on Saturday:

Primula allionii Harry Jans
Primula Kusum Krishna
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Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
And one or two P. auriculas just coming into flower.

  Names added in text to allow search to find

Primula-auricula-Joel.jpg
Primula-auricula-Mojave.jpg
Primula-auricula-Remus.jpg
Primula-auricula-Sirius.jpg
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Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
And one allionii I've had a while.  It stays almost as tiny as when I bought it, but is full of bloom just now:  P. a. Fairy Rose
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Post by: daveyp1970 on April 04, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
Davey, could your first picture be P x Pubescens 'Harlow Carr?' It is a creamy-white with the palest, most delicate rose pink colouring at the edge, and nice ruffling. The pink ages out. Wonderful scent too.

And Graham, your yellow looks a lot like P. 'Broadwell Gold,' raised by the late Joe Elliott of Broadwell Alpines.
Lesley i think you are right,it has a superb scent.
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Post by: hadacekf on April 04, 2011, 05:40:49 PM
At present flowers Primula marginata in the rock garden.
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Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2011, 06:43:29 PM
Such beautiful clumps Franz
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Post by: Hoy on April 04, 2011, 07:43:55 PM
Pretty primulas in a perfect setting, Franz!
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Post by: daveyp1970 on April 04, 2011, 08:12:16 PM
And one or two P. auriculas just coming into flower.

  Names added in text to allow search to find

Primula-auricula-Joel.jpg
Primula-auricula-Mojave.jpg
Primula-auricula-Remus.jpg
Primula-auricula-Sirius.jpg

Lovely Auriculas Chris do you have a large collection.
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Post by: mark smyth on April 04, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
I think I could get hooked on Primulas.

How and when can I propagate my marginatas?
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Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2011, 09:17:16 PM
Hi Davey,

No, not a huge collection, about 25 probably.  I got a few more when I got the latest book on them last year and ordered a few more choice ones.  Joel is one of those, and it is just wonderful.

Mark,

I've found it very easy indeed to propagate my marginatas, just cut a chunk off the side and stick it in a pot of compost and keep it just moist and out of full sun and it should root for you.  auriculas are even easier if anything.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 04, 2011, 10:09:22 PM
I think I could get hooked on Primulas.

How and when can I propagate my marginatas?

I have been, for longer than you've been alive Mark!

You can grow marginatas from seed which is set for me, usually.

To do named forms, you can divide a big clump, putting the pieces separately or in small groups with some root or you can take cuttings, just by cutting off the leafy rosettes with a length of stem, say about 3-4cms, and inserting them in damp sand or a gritty mix and keeping cool until they are growing and obviously rooted. They're quite easy. You'll also find some small rosettes inside the clump which already have roots and these are good starter plants too. I believe they are known in the north as Irish cuttings. We would call them Maori cuttings probably.  When the plants have become very woody and the stems are well above the surface, either propagate as above, or just dig the clump and bury it with the stems below ground and just the rosettes above. This preserves the clump size but if you want a greater number, you can then dig the clump and you'll find the previously bare, woody stems are all rooted ready to be separate plants.

I'd do cuttings any time except when in flower or in the dead of winter. Probably after flowering is best.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 05, 2011, 09:57:50 AM
Lesley, I think I've managed to root an allionii, are they generally as easy as marginata's to propagate this way?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Nick_the_grief on April 05, 2011, 07:35:31 PM
Being new at this game I haven't had chance to post many photo's of my minuscule collection, but here are a couple from yesterday taken on the phone.


(http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/e762397c8c9c4c578d845ddabccc5f18/assets/c8cbbe04e21f4b2f893a4fd9e3558f02) (http://www.photoshop.com/users/griefmiester/assets/)
P.Auricula 'Everest Blue'


(http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/e762397c8c9c4c578d845ddabccc5f18/assets/d5d68c7aba7f4b9ebf5d291099277c2d) (http://www.photoshop.com/users/griefmiester/assets/)
P. Cortusoides primadiente

Sorry about the quality but it was windy and my camera was upstairs
(and it took some working out how to post these from photoshop express ;D)

Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: daveyp1970 on April 05, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
Being new at this game I haven't had chance to post many photo's of my minuscule collection, but here are a couple from yesterday taken on the phone.


(http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/e762397c8c9c4c578d845ddabccc5f18/assets/c8cbbe04e21f4b2f893a4fd9e3558f02) (http://www.photoshop.com/users/griefmiester/assets/)
P.Auricula 'Everest Blue'


(http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/e762397c8c9c4c578d845ddabccc5f18/assets/d5d68c7aba7f4b9ebf5d291099277c2d) (http://www.photoshop.com/users/griefmiester/assets/)
P. Cortusoides primadiente

Sorry about the quality but it was windy and my camera was upstairs
(and it took some working out how to post these from photoshop express ;D)


Nick Everest blue is really nice.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 05, 2011, 09:42:10 PM
'Everest Blue' is a stunner all right!

Chris, I wouldn't expect allionii to be as easy as marginata but can't really say as I haven't tried. There used to be quite a nice little collection of allionii vars in NZ in the hands of a single person who then went off to live in Australia. What happened to the prims I don't know. I've only ever had a couple and have lost them both. Haven't seen one available for several years.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 05, 2011, 09:56:46 PM
Thanks Lesley...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 07, 2011, 06:05:42 PM
Primula apoclita
Primula 'Kinlough Beauty'
Double cowslip
Barnhaven's 'Reverie' strain.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 08, 2011, 05:11:56 PM
Giles,

love your P. apoclita.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 08, 2011, 06:18:54 PM
Thankyou, Wim.
(if it sets seed...........  ;) )
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 08, 2011, 06:32:52 PM
Thankyou, Wim.
(if it sets seed...........  ;) )

Would like that............. :D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ian mcenery on April 08, 2011, 06:42:18 PM
A couple of ones from me

petiolaris the easiest petiolarid well for me - from Jack Drake donkeys years ago and still have some nice patches providing I divide every other year at least and

aureata. Struggling with this one but it is flowering

Giles one of your beauties is coming into flower I will do a piccy over the weekend
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: christian pfalz on April 08, 2011, 10:28:34 PM
hello,
some primula pics from today.....
is this an auricula forma ????
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/garten%201/frei010.jpg?t=1302298039)
flower
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/garten%201/frei011.jpg?t=1302298060)
primula auricula on tufa wall....
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/garten%201/frei012.jpg?t=1302298080)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/garten%201/frei006.jpg?t=1302298102)
cheers and thanks
chris
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 09, 2011, 06:24:06 PM
Primula veris subsp. macrocalyx
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 10, 2011, 02:21:20 PM
Here are two Primulas that haven't been shown on the forum growing in a garden. P. pubescens Joan Danger and x pubescens Wharfedale Buttercup
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 10, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
I have P. auricula suffering in a pot. I must put it in a limestone trough
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Gail on April 10, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
Primula 'Blue Sapphire' - an almost denim shade of blue
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 10, 2011, 09:05:54 PM
very nice Gail
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2011, 11:08:56 AM
Good gracious Gail, that's quite a departure in colour.  Is the photo colour accurate?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Gail on April 11, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Good gracious Gail, that's quite a departure in colour.  Is the photo colour accurate?
Not quite - imagine a mid-colour denim jeans.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 11, 2011, 07:24:30 PM
Lust at first sight and I want it  ::)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 11, 2011, 11:36:23 PM
Chris - Yes. :)

My blue jeans are nowhere near that colour. Grubby faded blue, with streaks of brown and green just about covers it. Or them! :)

Mark you should be able to find double primroses like the yellow in garden centres now or soon, and a packet of good double seed from Barnhaven in France will yield some, as well as in other colours. Maybe like Gail's. ;D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 12, 2011, 01:07:33 PM
I'm quite relieved to know that colour was not recording right on your camera.... Looks a lovely plant nevertheless...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 12, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
I've been bad  ;D I went to a local home grown nursery today. I bought 7  :o named primroses.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 12, 2011, 08:02:32 PM
I've been bad  ;D I went to a local home grown nursery today. I bought 7  :o named primroses.

Come on then, show 'em to us! ;D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 12, 2011, 09:09:34 PM
I can't just yet. They are hidden in the boot. They will appear in the morning when I can show them off. LOL We've all been in the same boat.

They didnt have the nice double yellow  :'(
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Graham Catlow on April 12, 2011, 09:09:37 PM
A selection from the past few days.
A couple I don't have names for so if anyone would like to hazzard a guess I would appreciate it.

The auricula unknown is deep purple not the blue that the photo is showing.

P. fasciculata
P. frondosa
P. scotica
P. unknown red
P. unknown red
P. auricula unknown
P. auricula unknown

Edit - sorry posted the same photo twice
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 13, 2011, 06:56:36 AM
Graham,
The dark red polyanthus looks something along the lines of a Barnhaven Cowichan, either their 'Venetian' or 'Garnet' strains.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: christian pfalz on April 13, 2011, 07:54:44 AM
graham, fantastic plants and a fantastic culture....
cheers
chris
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2011, 11:32:06 AM
wow that red one is fantastic.

How do you get fasciculata to grow so well?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2011, 11:38:54 AM
My purchases from yesterday are
Snow White
Elizabeth Kellelay
Petticoat
Garryard Crimson
Corporal Baxter
Guinevere
vulgaris ssp sibthorpii

also available John Fielding and Duchess of _ _ _ - I cant remember. I'll get these when I get paid ::)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Graham Catlow on April 13, 2011, 06:12:16 PM
Thanks for that information Giles. I will have a google.
Thanks Chris.

Mark - P. fasciculata is grown in a shallow clay pot with a very humusy compost which must never dry out. The pot is standing in water continuously from spring to autumn and then kept moist throughout the winter. No frost protection.

If you would like some of the red I will send some to you a small offset. Just send me a PM.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 14, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
Evesham roadside weeds.....
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 14, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
wow :o

cowslips look so much better dotted in grass rather than large congested clumps like they are in my garden
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2011, 06:51:42 PM
Evesham roadside weeds.....

Lots of them on verges and in field edges in Herefordshire/Worcestershire (but I never have my camera with me) but have never seen them in the wild in Devon.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: DaveM on April 14, 2011, 08:44:02 PM
Always thought weeds were by definition undesirable  :P, which cowslips and primroses are most certainly not. But then I might be wrong...... ;D.... In contrast to Giles' roadside non-weeds then are some cheery pics below of Primula vulgaris ssp sibthorpii. These are in flower now in woodland edges alongside tracks marking 'major byways' on very old estates here in East Lothian. I have seen similar populations in two areas at least 2 km apart. The huge range of flower colour seen is typical of this subspecies as seen in north-east Turkey (see pics on PrimulaWorld). The typical primrose yellow is present but not dominant - there are many whites and wishy-washy colours as well as strong lilacs through to reds.

The origin of these populations is a mystery to me, as all the 'wild' populations of primrose elsewhere in East Lothian are universally yellow. There is no evidence of x polyantha in these populations and there are no gardens nearby, so I doubt they are escapees. At one of the sites are many hundreds of hybrid daffodils along with some bluebells and snowdrops so it seems that sibthorpii was deliberately planted in these areas. However, why P sibthorpii? It's been suggested to me that one possible route was that plants or seed were brought back by local workers fighting in wars such as that of the Crimea, though I have no evidence yet that this is the case. Interesting ??? Must keep digging. Any thoughts most welcome.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 14, 2011, 09:19:56 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: arisaema on April 14, 2011, 09:25:50 PM
Anyone having success with P. moupinensis in the open garden? Mine more or less finished flowering under the snow :P
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: DaveM on April 14, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
And a second batch (really slow broadband is making this almost impossible..... >:( >:(
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: DaveM on April 14, 2011, 09:27:28 PM
And the final image - hopefully.....
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: arisaema on April 14, 2011, 09:31:45 PM
Beautiful P. sibthorpii!

Here's a pic of the rather anemic looking P. moupinensis two days after the snow melted, I realize it's not used to -20C and being covered in 2 meter of snow, but still...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2011, 09:36:40 PM
Astounding stuff Dave. I can't add to the discussion but I'd love to know the outcome of it.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 14, 2011, 10:14:43 PM
Poor P. moupinensis. It looks like a plant I've put a tray of plants on top of, because the planted one wasn't through yet and I needed quick space, then forgot to remove the tray. ::) IT should green up though, even if it remains a little distorted.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: arisaema on April 14, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Poor P. moupinensis. It looks like a plant I've put a tray of plants on top of, because the planted one wasn't through yet and I needed quick space, then forgot to remove the tray. ::) IT should green up though, even if it remains a little distorted.

It's started already, the picture is a week old. Still, I had hoped it would have the decency to save at least some flowering until after it had thawed out from below the snow, even a Chinese cabbage would have been better looking than that... lump ::)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: johnw on April 15, 2011, 02:25:49 AM
Poor P. moupinensis. even a Chinese cabbage would have been better looking than that... lump ::)

One could always stir-fry....

johnw
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 15, 2011, 02:35:01 AM
I like the white, crunchy parts in a salad, or just to munch on. :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Richard Green on April 15, 2011, 01:08:23 PM
Its always a pleasure driving up the M11 from Stansted Airport towards Cambridge to visit family in Norfolk at Easter.  The motorway verges and embankments are liberally splattered with cowslips for miles.  I am looking forward to that drive next weekend already!
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 16, 2011, 11:11:32 AM
Dave (M),
This is what grows up my road (grass banks; full sun).
Described affectionately in 'Flora Britannica' as 'Rhubarb and Custard'.
I've never seen white ones here.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 16, 2011, 07:13:26 PM
Dave-serious point: are the plants you have seen anywhre close to major roads/motorways? Both shades figure strongly on bankings on the A38 dual carriageway down here which must have been amenity sown.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: DaveM on April 16, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
I do like rhubarb and custard! Plenty white ones in the 2 populations.

David  -  motorway, in East Lothian!!!!  ??? ??? They've only just dualled the A1 and that's 2- 3 miles from either of the 2 localities. Closest a main road gets to either is about a mile.   As you say, to be serious, my examples are on old estates, long since broken up as into smaller farms. One location is now part of a coastal park. Can't think these have been amenity sown.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Tony Willis on April 16, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
Its always a pleasure driving up the M11 from Stansted Airport towards Cambridge to visit family in Norfolk at Easter.  The motorway verges and embankments are liberally splattered with cowslips for miles.  I am looking forward to that drive next weekend already!

There are thousands out at the M61/M6 intersection and many more as you move up to the Lake District. A wonderful sight.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Richard Green on April 17, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
Why are cowslips so rare in Scotland, but primroses so common?  I had never seen cowslips here until a couple of years ago when they appeared by a roadside north of Glasgow where a new entrance had been made to commercial premises - possibly brought in by with the construction materials.  But there must be a physiological reason as to their absence, does anyone know of other natural occurrances here?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 17, 2011, 06:22:14 PM
Some Primula's flowering here today:

Primula 'Cowichan Red'
Primula auricula 'Dusky Yellow'
Primula x pubescens 'Freedom'
Primula x pubescens 'Kath Dryden'
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 17, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
A few of my auriculas in bloom at the moment:
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 17, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
Few more:
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 17, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
Couple of others:
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 17, 2011, 08:20:07 PM
Christine, I love all you auricula's but Brookfield and Hinto Fiel are superb!
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: DaveM on April 17, 2011, 08:55:42 PM
Wim
Nice pics
However, the one you have labelled P x pubescens 'Freedom' is not actually that. Freedom has dark green, toothed leaves and lilac coloured flowers. Yours looks more like Rufus or The General, though neither seems to fit totally for me.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 18, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
I was in a friends garden on Saturday looking at her goodies from the Harrowgate show. I was amazed to see a P. allionii in full flower out side in a trough. How easy are they outside? What do they need?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 18, 2011, 09:31:43 AM
I was in a friends garden on Saturday looking at her goodies from the Harrowgate show. I was amazed to see a P. allionii in full flower out side in a trough. How easy are they outside? What do they need?

Good, well drained limey compost to start. They often grow under over-hangs in the wild (sometimes on cave roofs) so they don't like too much moisture directly on the foliage but plenty to the roots. Oh, and start with a cheap one! Real experts will come to your aid no doubt.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 18, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
Mark,
People usually grow them outdoors on tufa.
Jules Fouarge wrote an article on growing them on a tufa wall for The Alpine Gardener vol 69 p 338

Wim,
-was the Cowichan from Barnhaven seed?

Here:
Buckland Wine
Freckles
Nectarine
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 18, 2011, 07:19:41 PM
Wim,
-was the Cowichan from Barnhaven seed?

Giles,

no idea. Got it as a plant from a neighbour. I'll ask him.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 18, 2011, 07:26:34 PM
...with an extra year of growth it should look something like this...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 18, 2011, 07:31:30 PM
If that's the beast, what do you think is the beauty?  ;)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 18, 2011, 07:34:25 PM
A few of my auriculas in bloom at the moment:

Lovely Auriculas Chris. Looks as though you've got them off to a fine art.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 18, 2011, 07:35:35 PM
It would be fine, Wim, were it not for the fact that it glows in the dark  ;D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 18, 2011, 07:40:50 PM
It would be fine, Wim, were it not for the fact that it glows in the dark  ;D

 :o :o  ;D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 18, 2011, 09:59:02 PM
It would be fine, Wim, were it not for the fact that it glows in the dark  ;D

Quick trip from Fukushima then? ???
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: ChrisB on April 18, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Thanks David, I do love them.  Trying to grow them so I get the big flower head like on Joel, but I'm finding it difficult.

Just discovered woolly aphids at the base of some too, darn, maybe that's why they are not performing well - if I had soft furry things chewing at my feet I'd be a trifle upset too.... Methylated spirits here I come...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: WimB on April 19, 2011, 01:48:12 PM
Wim,
-was the Cowichan from Barnhaven seed?

Giles,

no idea. Got it as a plant from a neighbour. I'll ask him.

Hi Giles,

the mother plant comes from Barnhaven, indeed!
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 19, 2011, 06:50:26 PM
Thanks, Wim.  8)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Zdenek on April 19, 2011, 08:34:03 PM
One of the best Pimulas by my oppinion - Ray Fairbairn's 'Allen Queen'
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Knud on April 19, 2011, 11:16:09 PM
A very nice plant, Zdenek.

I have included pictures of three primulas flowering here now. The first is P. marginata 'Adrian Evans'. The last two I have no names for, but would be grateful for any suggestions. The first is apparently an old cultivar, with a few pale yellow flowers on top of a 10 cm (4") stalk. The second unknown has single, very dark flowers on short stalks (initially a few cm, or about 1") above deep green foliage. In about two-three weeks the leaves will have overgrown the flowers, eventually hiding them completely. Nevertheless it is a very nice primula, flowering early and richly.

Knud   
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on April 20, 2011, 07:50:55 PM
Knud,
There are alot of primulas in the style of your second photograph (the mini cream polyanthus).
Names would include 'Dorothy', 'Craven Gem', 'Lady Greer', 'MacWatts Cream', 'Elizabeth Browning', 'Beamish Foam'.
Some of them are pins (like yours) others thrums.
'Dorothy' is certainly a pin, but I can't remember about the others (mine have all finished flowering now).

The colour of the third photo (the little purple one) .... is it true in the photograph?
..definitely something with juliae parentage, but otherwise doesn't look familiar (sorry).
Have a look at PrimulaWorld to see what juliae looks like, and you'll see what I mean....
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 20, 2011, 08:02:19 PM
Primula polyneura
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Nick_the_grief on April 20, 2011, 10:11:11 PM
Some better photo's of the ones I posetd before and a couple of new ones.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/5638136877_bd85dba12e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638136877/)
A. Autumn Fire
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5638136613_5ac77836ef.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638136613/)
A. Beatrice
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5638714066_dce1f786a4.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638714066/)
A. Nina
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5638713802_d0574569e2.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638713802/)
A. Everest Blue
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Nick_the_grief on April 20, 2011, 10:13:34 PM
And from the weekend a few natives

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5638135899_a02e638d13.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638135899/)
Cowslip
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5230/5638711164_14affee875.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638711164/)
Cowslip
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/5638133091_73c30b9e87.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5638133091/)
Primrose
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 20, 2011, 10:43:33 PM
Your third picture Knud, I like VERY much. I hope you're able to find a name for it.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 20, 2011, 11:30:44 PM
Thanks David and Giles. I going to buy some because I have some excellent tufa over hangs

Giles in a couple of years you'll be having a primrose open day. Similar to the Galanthus Gala but a Primrose _ _ _ .
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: nivalis on April 21, 2011, 08:56:27 AM
in a couple of years you'll be having a primrose open day. Similar to the Galanthus Gala but a Primrose _ _ _ .

a good idea
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on April 21, 2011, 10:08:33 AM
I agree, Mark and Stephan... a Primrose Party could be great fun!
Stephan, welcome, good to have  you posting here  8).

 Someone near me thinks an Erythronium Extravaganza would be even better!!  ;D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on April 21, 2011, 10:34:44 AM
or Primrose Parade

An Erythronium would be good also
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Nick_the_grief on April 21, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Another one flowered today

A. Rene

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5640585436_f1ba94b758.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5640585436/)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: arisaema on April 21, 2011, 02:19:47 PM
Finally something that doesn't look like it belongs in a kebab...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on April 21, 2011, 07:38:39 PM
Another one flowered today

A. Rene

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5640585436_f1ba94b758.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-bygum/5640585436/)


Nice one Nick. Is it a new one I haven't heard of it before?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: FrazerHenderson on April 22, 2011, 10:09:24 AM
Some auriculas.. nothing special or named..
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: FrazerHenderson on April 22, 2011, 10:14:19 AM
..and a few more..

There is something about them though. There is tendency to get carried away with various genera and suddenly have no more room (or money or time for that matter!).

The camera doesn't really do justice to the coulours; I can now truly appreciate why the Victorians created auricula theatres to appreciate better these wondrous plants. A couple of minutes of truly detailed examination is an investment that will pay dividends for years to come.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Gail on April 22, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Here is my take on an auricula theatre - made from an old picture frame.  (Although the photo was taken a couple of years ago and currently the frame needs re-painting...)
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Post by: Brian Ellis on April 22, 2011, 02:29:32 PM
Very attractive Gail, My friend Jane-Ann does something similar and also has them on a sort of ladder!
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Post by: Giles on April 22, 2011, 03:24:41 PM
'Tortoiseshell'
'Petticoat'
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Post by: mark smyth on April 22, 2011, 03:55:23 PM
Some Auriculas on my web site
http://marksgardenplants.com/auriculas.htm (http://marksgardenplants.com/auriculas.htm)

Giles how does Tortoiseshell differ from Elizabeth Kellilay? The colour on my photo is slightly to light
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Post by: Giles on April 22, 2011, 08:47:15 PM
- to my mind, 'Tortoiseshell' has a rounder, flatter, more divided looking flower, giving a more dainty effect.
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Post by: ruweiss on April 22, 2011, 09:44:01 PM
First flower of Primula geranifolia from seed collected by J. Jurasek in Yunnan
at 4000 m.
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Post by: Knud on April 22, 2011, 10:10:50 PM

The colour of the third photo (the little purple one) .... is it true in the photograph?
..definitely something with juliae parentage, but otherwise doesn't look familiar (sorry).
Have a look at PrimulaWorld to see what juliae looks like, and you'll see what I mean....

Thank you, Giles for good advice, and refence to PrimulaWorld. Your were right in questioning the colour, it isn't true. I rarely check or adjust colour in my pictures as I have been happy with the rendering of most colours by my camera, but this one it missed. I first tried, flower in hand, to adjust the colour in my photo-software (Lightroom), but could not manage to get a good match. I took new pictures, in sun, in shade, after sunset with and without flash but the colour is elusive. The best result I got in shade against an even grey background. The actual colour is a redder purple than in the photo of my last post, in today's photo the two smaller flowers on the right (and the two small leaves) belong to the unknown primula, the other, shown for reference, is one that has inhabited this garden since the 70-ies and is possibly Wanda. This picture has better colour, but is still not right, not "red" enough.


I'm sorry, Lesley, that the colour was off, but it is still a very nice primula, covered in flowers in a good year, well above the leaves for at least two weeks.


Knud
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Post by: Giles on April 23, 2011, 06:56:09 PM
 ???  (sorry)
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 23, 2011, 08:05:35 PM
First flower of Primula geranifolia from seed collected by J. Jurasek in Yunnan
at 4000 m.

Very nice Rudi. I assume it likes a rich, moist place that doesn't dry out?
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 23, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Knud, your possibly 'Wanda', is, as you say, not red enough so your camera is definitely showing on the blue side, which makes it really hard to imagine just what the other might be. Juliae is probably involved though I don't remember juliae as being so indented in the petal. Mine's not in flower at present of course. The foliage of juliae is bright green too, not the deep, reddish green of your picture.
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Post by: Giles on April 24, 2011, 01:56:47 PM
Knud,
-this is the best match I could find, taken from the book 'A Heritage of Beauty' by Charles Nelson - a primrose called 'Eric Breakey' described as as a compact plant, foliage turing purple as season progresses and with deeply notched petals, darker than 'Wanda'....and they're both 'pins'.
Not bad (?)
I've reposted your photo with it to compare.
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Post by: Giles on April 24, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Primula szechuanica
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Post by: Knud on April 24, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
Not bad (?)

Not bad ??? - very good I would say! 'Eric Breakey' as pictured in Nelson's book certainly looks very similar. It is definitely a compact plant, especially during the early stage of flowering, but it spreads relatively quickly.  I will pay attention to the foliage as it ages.  As I recall it is always a very dark, reddish green, but I have not noticed it turning purple.

Lesley, the leaves of the primula I called 'possibly Wanda' are bright green, and altogether more robust than that which is now probably 'Eric Breakey'. We do have another Wanda-like primula that is redder in colour, like in your picture. I think it has more than one flower per stalk, I will check tomorrow. Does 'Wanda' have single-flowered stalks?

Thank you both,
Knud
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Post by: Knud on April 24, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Sorry about the "face", I do not know how it appeared, possibly three question-marks and no brackets: testing ??? (???)
Knud
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Post by: Knud on April 24, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
Test failed, - I give up.
Knud
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 24, 2011, 10:57:44 PM
I think the true 'Wanda' has single flowers on the stems but stand to be corrected. Hardly a primula out here at present except some second-flowering auriculas. The colour of 'Eric Breakey' in Giles' picture, exactly matches a Wanda-type plant I have, called 'Jill' but how genuine this name is, I don't know. It's a colour I call indigo, which according to the rainbow, is between purple and blue, and should be dark. I've only met it here in NZ ('Jill,' I mean). In any case the foliage too, is like that of 'Wanda' rather than juliae. It does tend to darken after flowering though.
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Post by: Giles on April 25, 2011, 01:53:40 PM
Lesley, re. 'Jill' :
-A dainty little primrose with deep green crinkled foliage, pin-eyed deep mauve flowers. Genders described the small centre as 'greenish-white' but it appears more yellow in the illustration in Mansfield's book. A plant under this name is grown in New Zealand, described as having 'deep violet flowers with gold eyes.' -
Primroses and Polyanthus by Peter Ward.
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Post by: ruweiss on April 25, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
First flower of Primula geranifolia from seed collected by J. Jurasek in Yunnan
at 4000 m.

Very nice Rudi. I assume it likes a rich, moist place that doesn't dry out?

David,wonder if this nice plants survive the summer heat in my hot garden, I can offer a moist place,
but cannot change the temperatures. Saved some plants under the staging of the Alpine house.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 25, 2011, 11:02:00 PM
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This is 'Jill' as I have it. Wanda-like except for the colour. I'll try for closer pictures in the spring. It seems a little redder in Mansfield but colour printing back in 1942 was perhaps less accurate than nowadays. I especially like 'Jill' for her different colour and because planted with both 'Wanda' and vulg. 'Sibthorpii' the three as they meet and mingle make a beautifully coloured patchwork quilt.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 25, 2011, 11:09:14 PM
Here is another for which I'm still wanting some kind of idenification. I've put it on the Forum before without success but maybe someone in the north has it in bloom now.

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It was available in NZ for some years as Primula x Wockii or 'Wockii' but I can't find that such a name exists at all. Then some bright spark decided it must be P. rockii because it is yellow/orange but rockii is section Bullatae and this is definitely Vernales. The flowers and leaves are both crinkly, the flowers almost yellow at the edges while the ground colour is a solid and quite harsh orange. Such a distinctive plant surely must have a name of some sort. Never had seed on it but it has been used as a pollen parent I think with yellow polyanthus to make some nice plants.
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Post by: Hoy on April 27, 2011, 08:09:39 PM
Lesley, I can't give you a name of your plant but are you sure it has a name? Here we can buy dozens of similar plants for spring display and they are all nameless from seed. The colours vary but a lot of them are a kind of yellow-orange. They are meant for short display but some are worth growing on - nameless.


It is the same with these auricles we can buy in spring. All are nameless seedlings with varying colours.

I grow some on my shed roof:

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Post by: David Nicholson on April 27, 2011, 08:33:10 PM
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This is 'Jill' as I have it. Wanda-like except for the colour. I'll try for closer pictures in the spring. It seems a little redder in Mansfield but colour printing back in 1942 was perhaps less accurate than nowadays. I especially like 'Jill' for her different colour and because planted with both 'Wanda' and vulg. 'Sibthorpii' the three as they meet and mingle make a beautifully coloured patchwork quilt.

Lesley, this is what Peter Ward has to say about 'Jill' in "Primroses and Polyanthus: A Guide to the Species and Hybrids"

"A dainty little primrose with deep green crinkled foliage, pin-eyed deep mauve flowers. Genders described the small centre as 'greenish-white' but it appears more yellow in the illustration in Mansfield's book. A plant under this name is grown in New Zealand, described as having 'deep violet flowers with  gold eyes' "

I can't find any reference to Wockie though I seem to think I have seen it referred to somewhere> Maybe because it was in a previous post?
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 27, 2011, 10:34:54 PM

It was available in NZ for some years as Primula x Wockii or 'Wockii' but I can't find that such a name exists at all. Then some bright spark decided it must be P. rockii because it is yellow/orange but rockii is section Bullatae and this is definitely Vernales. The flowers and leaves are both crinkly, the flowers almost yellow at the edges while the ground colour is a solid and quite harsh orange. Such a distinctive plant surely must have a name of some sort. Never had seed on it but it has been used as a pollen parent I think with yellow polyanthus to make some nice plants.
Primula x wockei is a hybrid primula with P. hirsuta hybrids( P. x arctotis) and P. marginata involved. The leaves resemble more the marginata types.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on April 28, 2011, 01:24:47 AM
Thanks Trond and Luit. I know what you mean Trond and I have a few myself which are very fine seedlings, better than many named forms, but this is so distinctive and so different from anything else. If nothing comes to light in the next week or two here, (and there's nothing I can see on the Primula World website), I'll give it a name myself, just so people know which one we're talking about. I think that would be better than a reputable nursery calling it P. rockii which it clearly isn't. I could have it published in the NZAGS Bulletin which would go to most alpine gardeners in NZ, as well as here on the Forum.

Clearly neither P. hirsuta nor P. marginata is involved.
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Post by: Giles on May 03, 2011, 08:26:37 PM
P.szechuanica a bit further on.
They won't last much longer as they're totally flat during the middle part of the day (hence evening photo).
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Post by: Giles on May 05, 2011, 05:21:45 PM
Primula sieboldii seedling from Barnhaven's 'Dancing Ladies' strain.
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Post by: Zdenek on May 05, 2011, 06:38:17 PM
A very tiny Primula pinnata:
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Post by: johnw on May 07, 2011, 02:22:30 AM
A long-suffering Primula marginata that has been in the same trough and same mix for years still gives a bit of a show.

johnw
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Post by: David Pilling on May 07, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
The slightly tatty primula to the right is p. polyneura, I don't know what the small one on the left is.

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Post by: Lesley Cox on May 07, 2011, 10:19:58 PM
Looks like a plant which relishes its suffering John. :)
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Post by: johnw on May 07, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
Looks like a plant which relishes its suffering John. :)

And I could use a few more such plants.

johnw
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Post by: johnw on May 07, 2011, 10:33:04 PM
Lady Greer with a dirty face today.

johnw
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Post by: Giles on May 10, 2011, 07:00:46 PM
A few days on:

and another hard day at the office.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQqZVbi1Eao&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LpanPzhDRY&NR=1
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 10, 2011, 07:16:57 PM
A veritable symphony of sieboldiis in those links, Giles.... thank you!
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Post by: Lesley Cox on May 11, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
But no blues? :'(
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Post by: PaulM on May 12, 2011, 09:12:56 PM
Hello ! I collected seeds of this Primula in Tajikistan 2005, and it produced three pink flowers this spring on top a short ( 10cm ) scape. I wonder if it could be P. kaufmanniana, or are there some other species which it resembles more ?

I have also added a picture of Primula elatior ssp pallasii.

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Post by: arisaema on May 17, 2011, 06:26:31 PM
What's this tiny little thing?
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 17, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
What's this tiny little thing?
It's cuter than a button!! That's what it is! I think that's Primula bellidifolia  but it could be another of the Soldanelloides  sorry.... that should be Muscarioides  section.... all lovely,.... cue wistful sigh for the days these would grow for us!
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Post by: DaveM on May 17, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
Looks very much like P apoclita, same section as P bellidifolia (Muscarioides) but is much shorter in flowering stem height.
Very nice!
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 17, 2011, 09:59:55 PM
Oh, I thought  P. apoclita was taller? :-\  And with longer, narrower tubes?  :-X

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Post by: DaveM on May 17, 2011, 10:06:35 PM
Maggi, I have just looked this up in John R's book. He describes apoclita as having matt leaves that are softly hairy throughout and stem scarcely exceeding the leaves in height and typically not exceeding 16 cm.

Arisaema - was this from wild collected seed? if so then apoclita comes from the Beima Sham area of Yunnan-Sechuan border, whereas bellidifolia is Himalayan.
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 17, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
 :D Just done the same thing, David.... went to find John's book.   I may have got things back to front.....  again  ;)

Some comparison pictures from Primula World......
http://www.primulaworld.com/pwweb/gallery/slides/apoclitaJR3.html

http://www.primulaworld.com/pwweb/gallery/bellidifolia.html     ..... going by these pix... some of which are from John R of apoclita .....  I am still thinking bellidifolia.........
 :-\

http://www.primulaworld.com/pwweb/gallery/slides/bellidifoliaMT_9652.html
http://www.primulaworld.com/pwweb/gallery/slides/bellidifoliaMT_9661.html

these pictured by Margaret Thorne, wild in the Tsophu Valley, Bhutan.
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Post by: ashley on May 17, 2011, 10:25:02 PM
That's really a beauty Arisaema.

Here a couple from the 2009 seed exchange:
Primula alpicola violacea
Primula flaccida
 
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Post by: arisaema on May 17, 2011, 10:32:37 PM
Thanks!  :) The label says "Primula deflexa, CN: Hongshan, Yunnan, 4600m"; so unless P. bellidifolia has a much wider distribution than what's already known I guess it must be a good form of P. apoclita?
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Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 18, 2011, 06:57:30 AM
Hello ! I collected seeds of this Primula in Tajikistan 2005, and it produced three pink flowers this spring on top a short ( 10cm ) scape. I wonder if it could be P. kaufmanniana, or are there some other species which it resembles more ?

Paul
This primula could be Primula minkwitziae. Look at mine found in Tian-Shan.
(http://cs10306.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/104553915/x_7f93135f.jpg)
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Post by: arisaema on May 18, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
Is this Primula graminifolia, or something else? It looks quite different form all my other P. chionanthas... (Sorry for the picture quality!)

Also below; a rather sad looking P. calderiana and P. chionantha sinopurpurea.
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Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 18, 2011, 12:07:12 PM
arisaema
You show very interesting unusual plants! I like especially P. deflexa and P. calderiana.
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Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 18, 2011, 12:12:23 PM
Primula marginata
(http://cs11421.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/y_4cc7f46b.jpg)

Natural hybrid P. ruprechtii x P. amoena
(http://cs10918.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/y_36875e05.jpg)

Double P. acaulis sort
(http://cs10918.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/y_99eb06e4.jpg)

Primula denticulata Alba
(http://cs10918.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/y_becfa9e9.jpg)
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 18, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
Quote
Natural hybrid P. ruprechtii x P. amoena
-   what a pretty colour
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Post by: PaulM on June 01, 2011, 03:50:53 PM
Thank you for the picture of P. minkwitziae Olga. It looks very similar and could very well be the same. Your photographs are so professional and really stunning. Thank you for sharing !

Here are two not so stunning pictures of what I received as Primula yargongensis, but which I understand is considered a subspecies to P. involucrata, and should thus be called Primula involucrata ssp yargongensis. It is flowering now anyway:

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Post by: mark smyth on June 01, 2011, 04:41:42 PM
I grow some on my shed roof:

I like your shed roof - the best living roof I have seen
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Post by: TC on June 02, 2011, 06:03:02 PM
A couple of primula shots.  The wet /cool weather here has helped the candelabra primulas to bloom.  They are self seeding everywhere.

First picture is Inverewe -  I have several blooming and they are rather variable.  This one came from Arduiane gardens

The second group have been grown from seed sown two years ago
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Post by: Giles on June 03, 2011, 07:52:23 PM
I like them, Tom  :)
Here, P. florindae:
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Post by: Magnar on June 04, 2011, 09:35:22 PM
Got a  for me new Primula from a  good friend last week . P. szechuanica.
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Post by: Magnar on June 05, 2011, 08:05:52 AM
A mini primula. P cuneifolia ssp saxifragifolia.

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Post by: Magnar on June 05, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
Primula palmata, good ground coverer.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on June 05, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
That is a beautifully coloured florindae, but I love them all for their delicious perfume as well as the flowers.
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Post by: ChrisB on June 06, 2011, 12:00:03 PM
Lovely primulas Magnar.  I especially like P. szechuanica, but I expect it likes damp conditions and sadly, I have very few.
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Post by: Giles on June 17, 2011, 12:32:01 PM
Some primulas from today:
P.bellidifolia (2nd flowering)
P.beesiana
P.bulleyana
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Post by: Giles on June 17, 2011, 12:35:06 PM
P.prolifera
P.florindae (another one)
P.elatior pallasii
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Post by: Giles on June 17, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
Just purchased - P.serratifolia
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Post by: Giles on June 17, 2011, 12:39:24 PM
P.vialii
Some of next year's crop (1,500 potted up so far.......)
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Post by: Maggi Young on June 17, 2011, 03:02:41 PM
What a lot of smart babies..... busy life being a Dad on that scale, Giles!
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Post by: Giles on June 22, 2011, 06:46:46 PM
Primula deflexa.
It clumped up after its first flowering earlier in the year, and is now in flower again.
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Post by: Maggi Young on June 22, 2011, 06:54:08 PM
Primula deflexa.
It clumped up after its first flowering earlier in the year, and is now in flower again.
That's what  I call a useful plant.... showing very willing to add colour to the place.  :)
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Post by: Lesley Cox on June 22, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
That is very nice, quite elegant and clumping up well.
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Post by: daveyp1970 on June 27, 2011, 09:45:33 PM
Primula cortusoides flowering for the second time this year
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Post by: Giles on July 10, 2011, 02:35:30 PM
Another vialli, P.capitata, and the foliage of a recently acquired neurocalyx.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on July 10, 2011, 09:07:38 PM
Love that leaf! And who could not admire P. viali?
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Post by: iann on July 20, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
Amazing what several days of continuous rain will do for Primula scotica.  This one has decided to flower again.  Not exactly show quality but the slugs and snails have been nibbling everything the last few weeks.
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Post by: Giles on July 23, 2011, 08:05:09 PM
..and some red bluebells from me...
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Post by: Lesley Cox on July 23, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
Which is it Giles? They are surely late. Maybe a second flowering?
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Post by: Giles on July 23, 2011, 11:07:45 PM
Primula heucherifolia (from Kevock)
B and T World Seeds are selling seed of it too ......and it is germinating quite nicely.
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Post by: Giles on July 27, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Some double primrose seedlings, and the auricula 'Starling'.
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Post by: daveyp1970 on July 27, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
Giles Starling is stunning very nice,is it one you grow outside all the time.
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Post by: Giles on July 27, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
Yes, David, it's a straight forward Border Auricula growing in ordinary garden soil, in full sun all day.
I guess I could have put an open ended cloche over it in Winter if I was feeling keen (but I didn't).
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Post by: Lesley Cox on July 27, 2011, 10:25:54 PM
A starling having had a dust bath. :) I love the colour of it and the light dusting of farina, a real gem.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on July 27, 2011, 10:50:49 PM
I bought these doubles the other day and by yesterday they had emerged from the snow. They are almost double, not so fully, as in Giles' lovely pale apricot but they are deliciously perfumed, ordinary polyanthus scent with a touch of lemon.


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Post by: Giles on July 31, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
Chartreuse
Noverna Deep Purple
Leathercoat
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Post by: David Nicholson on July 31, 2011, 08:10:23 PM
These are very early Giles? I'm used to them throwing up the odd flower at this time of year but yours seem to be in full flow.
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Post by: Giles on July 31, 2011, 08:19:21 PM
Some from this years sowing...
The blue one from the 'Reverie' strain, and the french grey from the 'Muted Victorian' strain.
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Post by: Giles on July 31, 2011, 08:21:39 PM
P.sieboldii went dormant, then sprang back into life.
'The books' say part shade in acid soil, but here full sun and pH 7.8  ;D
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Post by: Giles on July 31, 2011, 08:23:20 PM
..best not to think about it, David, just enjoy  ;)..
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Post by: Maggi Young on July 31, 2011, 08:35:14 PM
P.sieboldii went dormant, then sprang back into life.
'The books' say part shade in acid soil, but here full sun and pH 7.8  ;D

 ...maybe that's where I'm going wrong?  :-\
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Post by: Giles on August 11, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
Primula sieboldii 'Blush'
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Post by: Giles on August 14, 2011, 05:18:17 PM
Primula 'Curry Blend' (Border Auricula)
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Post by: Giles on August 14, 2011, 05:20:08 PM
Barnhaven seedlings.
New Pinks
Indian Reds
Yellow Cowichans
Reverie
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Post by: Giles on August 24, 2011, 12:57:50 PM
A selection of wild collected primroses given to me by forumists.
(Mostly Greece and Turkey).
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Post by: Giles on August 24, 2011, 12:58:53 PM
(none of the yellow ones are in flower at the moment)
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Post by: Giles on August 24, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
- and some Barnhavens from a sowing this Spring:
Grand Canyon; Fuchsia Victorians and Spice Shades.
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Post by: Giles on August 27, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
Primula geraniifolia, bud and flower.
Primula latisecta, distant and close.
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Post by: Giles on August 27, 2011, 11:32:40 AM
Some repeat flowerers:
Primula bellidifolia (3rd flowering this year)
Primula serratifolia (2nd flowering this year)
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Post by: Giles on August 27, 2011, 11:34:10 AM
Some auriculas:
'Charles Rennie' (Mackintosh)
'Eden Greenfinch'
'Goeblii'
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Post by: Giles on August 27, 2011, 11:36:03 AM
Heritage primroses:
'Garryard Crimson'
Hose in hose polyanthus
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Post by: Giles on August 27, 2011, 11:41:17 AM
Barnhaven seedlings:
Footlight Parade
Tartan Reds
Daybreak (bronze foliage)
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Post by: David Nicholson on August 27, 2011, 07:05:47 PM
Very nice indeed Giles. My Primula denticulata plants are like cabbages thanks to our Devon summer!
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Post by: Giles on August 27, 2011, 08:00:51 PM
My Primula denticulata plants are like cabbages
..just remember your safety specs next Spring   ;D

Very nice indeed Giles.
..thankyou, David, I'll be going 'live' selling directly to the public, as of next Spring  8)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on August 27, 2011, 08:08:45 PM
Will you have Web Site or a List?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on August 28, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
I'm hesitating Giles, but something tells me you like Primulas...  ::) 8)

Wonderful collection ! :D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on August 29, 2011, 02:14:34 PM
a better geraniifolia
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on August 29, 2011, 02:18:37 PM
..staying local, David....Daphnes and Primulas.
Ramona
Jack in the green seedling
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on August 29, 2011, 05:34:09 PM
..staying local, David....Daphnes and Primulas.
Ramona
Jack in the green seedling

Does that mean no mail order Giles, it's a long way for me to come?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on September 03, 2011, 09:07:34 PM
..too much hassle..

Anomalous primrose seedlings:
Jack in the green (leaf like sepals)
Jackanapes (leaf like sepals streaked with petal colour)
Hose in hose (petal like sepals)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on September 10, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
Primula megaseifolia
P. x 'John Fielding' (megaseifolia x juliae)
Primula japonica
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on September 10, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
Very nice Giles

My Barnhaven seed order arrived today. ;D
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on September 10, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
Thankyou, David.
I've had plants from Barnhaven, as well as seeds, and they are very good too  :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on September 16, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
This week's bouquet:
Harbour Lights (red); Devon Lace (dark ground GLP); Gold Laced Hose-in-Hose (red ground); Fuchsia Victorian (purple); Reverie (smokey blue)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on September 17, 2011, 06:51:23 PM
Chance seedling from a packet of single red primrose seed..
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 18, 2011, 12:20:40 AM
A nice little bonus Giles. :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on September 21, 2011, 02:22:44 PM
P.sieboldii Dancing Ladies seedling (white front, pink back).
Blue Cowichan
Little Egypt

(all 3 from Barnhaven seed)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 21, 2011, 11:35:33 PM
The blue Cowichans are really lovely, such an intense shade. I must get some seed from their next list. How many times can one spend one's financial windfall before it is quite gone? ???
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on October 09, 2011, 11:17:44 AM
Duckyl's Red
Strong Beer (double polyanthus)
Katy McSparron (double cowslip)

Barnhaven have just released a new hose in hose cowslip  ;) http://www.barnhavenprimroses.com/details.php?prodId=375&category=12
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: FrazerHenderson on October 19, 2011, 09:11:22 PM
Primula capitata ssp mooreana (Sikkim)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 20, 2011, 09:14:06 AM
Primula capitata ssp mooreana (Sikkim)
Very nice, Frazer,

Could someone ID this primula we photographed at the Ledshams' garden in Northern Ireland in April?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on October 20, 2011, 09:34:04 AM
Looks like P. sino-purpurea, fermi
  Primula chionantha subsp. sinopurpurea, more correctly!  :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 20, 2011, 09:17:19 PM
One of the Nivalid species. I really struggle with them here. They look great up until the first (only) flowering then almost always collapse. You'd have difficulties I should think Fermi.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on October 22, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
3 different flower types...
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on October 22, 2011, 06:30:31 PM
3 different flower types...
If that's not proof that the weather we've had this year is confusing the plants as wells as us, then I'm even further bemused.  :-X
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on October 28, 2011, 07:01:32 PM
P.aurantiaca (or similar)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on October 28, 2011, 07:03:09 PM
It's worrying, isn't it.....
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on October 28, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
Little wonders of mathematical perfection  :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on October 28, 2011, 07:35:22 PM
- far more worrying than that......
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on October 28, 2011, 08:24:18 PM
......well, one man's wicca is another man's maths!
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 30, 2011, 01:42:42 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of cauliflower. ???
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: daveyp1970 on October 30, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of cauliflower. ???
;D ;D ;D i thought the same Lesley
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 08, 2011, 10:34:35 PM
Two Primulas flowering in crevice troughs at present. The first is P. daonensis from Pilous seed and the second is a modesta form I think. Giles has given me the right name previously and I forgot to make a label so please Giles? again?

Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: mark smyth on November 08, 2011, 11:14:53 PM
Has anyone seen any of Joe Kennedy's Primroses for sale? He's been busy breeding new ones using old garden varieties.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on November 09, 2011, 03:52:21 PM
P.vulgaris var. arborea
Native tree primrose
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: fleurbleue on November 09, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
 :o Very amazing form !
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on November 09, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Yes, could be modesta, Lesley; 'Drumcliffe' and 'Innisfree' are widely available here Mark.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 09, 2011, 08:18:25 PM
I do like the tree primrose, quite different from the usual.

When they're in flower can we see these "new" primroses of Joe Kennedy's please?

Thanks Giles. I think you gave me a varietal name last time. I have it in both this pink and in white.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on November 09, 2011, 08:57:27 PM
This is Innisfree in my garden this Spring.
Drumcliffe has similar dark leaves, but cream coloured flowers.
The are covered by PBRs,have been micropropped - and are available worldwide.
(the arborea was a joke, but I guess you realised that  ;) )
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on November 09, 2011, 09:24:10 PM

(the arborea was a joke, but I guess you realised that  ;) )
What! You mean that was NOT a 90cm pot?  :o :o :)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on November 09, 2011, 09:57:48 PM
Has anyone seen any of Joe Kennedy's Primroses for sale? He's been busy breeding new ones using old garden varieties.

Just Google and ye shall find ;D

http://fitzgeraldnurseries.blogspot.com/2011/01/announcing-kennedy-irish-primrose.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2011/0312/1224291613228.html
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 09, 2011, 10:05:21 PM
No, I DIDN'T realize it was a joke. Silly me but something to strive for in future breeding. ;D

I hope, if released world-wide, they reach us here in the far south (the Bellarine vars did) as those very dark leaved forms are wonderful. I'll be looking out for them.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on November 19, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
 8)  :)  ;)
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on November 19, 2011, 05:47:33 PM
Masses of flowers and sunshine to enjoy them... lucky you, Giles... cold and cloudy here most of the day. :(
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 20, 2011, 04:21:25 AM
The little primula I grew from seed as P. bella, from GR, is now in flower but it's raining steadily today so as soon as the weather clears I'll take a picture. It looks delightful, a little charmer.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Maggi Young on November 22, 2011, 01:36:44 PM
Primula suffrutescens .........

http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=811.0

This thread on the NARGS forum has some super photos of this colourful primula... and some interesting information about the American Primrose Society......
The Seed Exchange of the APS , open only to members for the first allocation, becomes open to non-members for the surplus distribution...... interesting to know and a good idea to tempt  folks into seeing what they can get from membership....
Amy Olmsted wrote : "Yes we're hoping lots of NARGS folks will find this a good reason to try some new Primula! The second round distribution at the end of March is open to all. It gets more seed sold and out into the hands of prospective members. We hope folks will join when they seed what they might miss out on in the first round. You'll find lots more info here http://americanprimrosesociety.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33&Itemid=13    "

I reckon they'll open their hearts to primula lovers further afield as well!

APS membership page : http://americanprimrosesociety.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=5


 Various APS officers are SRGC forumists... so they will be able to advise if necessary, I expect. :)


Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on December 16, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
..some polyanthus..
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on December 16, 2011, 07:09:00 PM
...some primroses..
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on December 16, 2011, 07:21:53 PM
Barnhaven's Butterscotch - nice dark reverse of petals
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Nicholson on December 16, 2011, 07:35:57 PM
Nice Barnhaven stuff there Giles. Are you selling them or just for your own interest?
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Pilling on December 16, 2011, 11:30:37 PM
I like the Barnhaven primroses, I've grown a lot, but not seen them flower at this time of year on such a scale. Mine never look so neat and tidy.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on December 17, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
David (P)
They do alot better if you can keep the leaves dry - mine went undercover in November, no heat, keep ventilated night and day.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: David Pilling on December 17, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
Mine went into the garden at the start of September and have been wet and cold ever since. Obviously being under cover would be a lot better, but I plant them out to avoid vine weevil problems.

Anyway this is one that caught my eye a couple of weeks ago:

Having posted it, I note it has six petals, I think five is more common.
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Giles on December 26, 2011, 01:05:59 PM

Some 1st generation juliae hybrids
Title: Re: Primulas 2011.
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 27, 2011, 07:39:43 AM
Those look very nice Giles and quite close to the species. It would be good to puddle about within that little group and perhaps get other shades while keeping the very small, compact habit.
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