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Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: Hans J on February 06, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
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I have to confess that I'm not a big lover of Orchidaceae ....I grow only few Bletilla ,Pleione....
In last year my wife got as a gift a pot with a Cypripedium Phalaenopsis- it looks nice and we let it in our kitchen .After some weeks the flowers where faded and I cut the flowerstem .The plant looks healthy and so I decide to give it a new compost ( only pure pine bark ) ....to my big surprise in December start a new flowerstem which grows bigger and bigger .....I could see there was a lot of buds ( 20 !!! )
Now since two weeks are many flowers open - really nice !
Here are two pics of this pretty plant :
I have no idea which kind of Phalaenopsis ( or hybrid ) this is -sorry
Enjoy
Hans 8)
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Hans...ehrmmmmm...., that is a Phalaenopsis hybrid..... ;)
Better value for money than any bouquet of flowers.
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I'll re-name this thread for other houseplant orchids for the year.
What a super display of bloom on the Phaelanopsis, Hans. They are called in English "Moth" orchids because of their flowers with pretty "wings".
One of the most reliable house plants and so beautiful.
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Oooops ....sorry :(
as I told ...I have no idea for orchideace ....
Thank Maggi for re-naming !
Hans
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I was in a big local garden centre yesterday and the range of Phalaenopsis hybrids is enormous! Specially the spotted ones are great introductions and they now also have "mini" series, hardly bigger than 20 cm in full flower. They are indeed great house plants being able to put up with about anything, that's why I said they are better value for money than a bouquet of flower, they are cheaper than flowers and last for many years. Although my mum might not be that happy with me because I brought them with me on several occasions and she now has a window sill with only Phalaenopsis.... ;D
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That's a really nice Phaelonopsis Hans.
The flower colours and pterns have really developed over the past few years. They are really a much better buy than a bunch of flowers.
This thread gives me the opportunity to show my Rhynchostylis gigantea 'Spot' that is in flower now and for the first time. I bought it as a young plant three years ago. The scent is an amazing bonus. Can't describe it. It isn't overpowering just scenting the room nicely.
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Hallo Hans,
that's a pretty Phalaenopsis, and you have looked after it so well. As far as naming is concerned, no chance, I'm afraid. Phalaenopsis are grown in vast numbers in Dutch horticulture. Their methods are fascinating. Everything is computer controlled to reduce human intervention. In some of the very advanced nurseries, plants are weighed individually to find out about their development, and feed is automatically adjusted where a plant is behind. This results in large quantities of identical plants of high quality.
Most of the young hybrid plants are bought in mini cells from Taiwan, where breeding / hybridising of Phalaenopsis and other tropical orchids make a significant contribution to the country's income.
None of these hybrids are named when they come on the market; they come with barcodes that allow some tracing back if there is a problem. Putting name labels on individual plants would be far too expensive. These plants are destined for the pot plant market, and what a success they've been. - Well done! :) :) :)
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Thank you Maren and Graham !
sometimes is it better not to read in books for advices .... :P
Hans
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Last not least, that's a terrific Rhynchostylis gigantea 'Spot'. I see you grow it in a glass vase. I might try that. :) :) :)
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Last not least, that's a terrific Rhynchostylis gigantea 'Spot'. I see you grow it in a glass vase. I might try that. :) :) :)
Thanks Maren,
I grow my Ascada's and Vandas the same way.
I fill the vases with warmed water twice a week for about 20mins or so. Once every fortnight I add liquid fertilser to the water.
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Maren,
In the small town I live in one of the biggest Phalaenopsis nurseries in Holland is situated (http://floricultura.nl/hfdprdgroups.asp?id=145572). I once visited the place with friends of mine from India that have an orchid nursery in W Bengal and we were all blown away by how they work. At first I thought everyone was on a lunch break (except the ladies doing the sterile meristeming) because it was very quiet. During the tour however they told us they only enter the glasshouses in case of mechanical failure and once a week to check the pest indicators. Everything else is completely computer controlled, not a single hand was needed so very few people actually take care of the plants, they only take care of the computers. Amazing to watch. They produce some 4 million plants a year this way..... :o
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Pascal,
I'd love to see that; alas, my knowledge is only second hand from people who work in such nurseries and exhibit at the orchid shows in this country.
Were you allowed to take pictures? :)
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Pascal,
Were you allowed to take pictures? :)
I probably was allowed but had no camera with me, sorry. Thought it would be interesting for my guests, didn't expect to be impressed myself because I visited the place years before and then it was still a "normal" nursery. However, the normal nurseries that cater for the orchid enthusiast decrease in number. It is not that the market gets smaller, for some buying or getting a Phalaenopsis is the start to get interested in botanical orchids, but the cost of running a low scale place gets too high so the few left are either holding on or make the transition to the large scale automated nursery.
But it takes just one visionary nurseryman to pick up on a trend and before you know it you can buy some "house-proof" Pleione hybrid on a large scale at the supermarket the same way you can by potted hyacinths as the heralds of spring.... Stranger things have happened. Phalaenopsis were rare and exotic plants about 10-15 years ago and one of the grandparents of the modern hybrids, P. amabilis, still does best in a high humidity greenhouse so I am surprised how easy the modern hybrids can put up with overwatering and central heating.
In Holland you have "open nursery days" where once a year most nurseries in the industry open their doors for everyone to visit (this year 2nd and 3rd of April) and a photo-ban would not be practical. Further down the road there is an equally impressive producer of young bromeliad plants (www.bromeliad.com) that works the same way. Kinda odd if you consider the fact that the small farmer town I live in is far away from the Aalsmeer area with all the really big glasshouses and basically consists of a 3 mile long road with both nurseries at the end of it. Both nurseries started out small years back, I still remember so I must be getting old.... ::)
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Thanks for mentioning the date, I have put it into my diary. I have no interest or funds to go that way myself, but I find all this stuff most interesting. I suppose having been an IT person during my professional life may have something to do with it.
I also understand that Dutch horticulture is developing some revolutionary concepts in heating, based on non-carbon inputs. All of this is most enticing, but the start-up investment is way beyond my reach, so I can only admire these technological breakthroughs from a distance. I hope to learn more in time. :)
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Maggi,
so glad you've created this thread!
I've been experimenting with growing various orchids in the house for the past three years.
I used to have a heated greenhouse full of them but lost it after a house move.
So what will and won't grow in the lower light and drier atmosphere of the house?
First photo shows the general set up. A series of trays filled with pebbles sat on a trolley in front of an east facing window in the kitchen diner.
This is a fairly cool room as no one is home during the day. Temeratures vary from 10-17 degrees c.
The orchids spend most of the year here but go into the cold greenhouse for a few months in the summer. They seem to like it underneath the tomatoes.
Cymbidiums seem to be fairly straight forward. This is a large NOID cym bought last year. This year there are four spikes. These new hybrids from Holland seem to be easier to flower than older ones - the spikes are shorter so maybe cost the plant less energy and are therfore produced more easily.
Next is a dendrobium kingianum hybrid. These again seem to be easy, growing in summer and resting/flowering in the winter.
Paphiopedilums seem to be a mixed bag. This is Paph Dorama and pretty close to paph insigne so fairly tough and vigorous. The maudiae types (next photo) also grow well. Other types do not - it is probably too cold.
The next NOID cattleya hybrid does well - it flowers every January without fail, probably because it grows like the dendrobium, in the warmer summer and rests then flowers in the winter.
I love the phragmipedium hybrids and these sit in half and inch of rain water all year round. They do quite well - this is Memoria Dick Clements ( besseae x sargentianum).
The final photo shows two young phrag hybrids - both are kovachii crosses( x schlimii and x Living Fire). They've recently been potted from a bark mix into Tesco finest cat litter and have really taken off, despite the cool temperatures. Kovachii is supposed to like growing in diatomaceous earth so I thought I'd try the hybrids. They love it,
Regards,
David
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David,
that is a truly inspiring collection of houseplants. Well done, especially with the Kovachii hybrids. They are not the easiest.
Congratulations. :) :) :)
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Maren,
I thought you'd find the information about the cat litter compost interesting after your experience of it with pleiones. Its all an experiment. I know that kovachii grows fairly cool in its native habitat and that the straight species grows well in diatomaceous earth - this is what Jason Fischer uses in the USA. So I thought it was worth a try. The kitchen is not warm in the winter but this doesn't have seemed to have harmed the phrags. It slows down the paphs much more.
They would probably grow much faster if I could give them warmer days coupled with the cool nights. They will get that during the summer.
I do have a four year old straight kovachii that grows very slowly in a bark compost with added limestone. It is only about 9 inches across and has just started a new growth.
It will probably go into the cat litter compost soon, but I thought that I'd try the more robust hybrids first,
Regards,
David
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Oh dear, David, I am beginning to wobble on the matter of the cat litter.
Just tell me please exactly which brand it is and where you bought it. ??? ??? ???
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Maren,
it is the regular Tesco's low dust lightweight cat litter spoken about on this forum.
Sold in pale yellow and pink 10 litre bags with a photo of a pussy on the side!
See first photo. Sorry for the quality of the photos but it is so dull around here today.
I've just repotted the 'straight' kovachii. I've no reason so far to think it isn't correct, but it was an ebay purchase about 4 years ago, soon after they first appeared.
It was a tiny seedling. As you can see, growth is good but so slow! It did improve lot in colour when I added limestone to the bark mix. So maybe it is the true species,
Regards,
David
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Forgive my ignorance.... what is NOID, please? As in NOID cym / NOID cattleya hybrid ???
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Maggie its a hybrid bought from a garden centre ,supermarket ect and because the don't put the hybrid name tag on them and there is that many hybrids out there its pretty unlikely to pin point a name,they are labeled as noid(no id)
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Thanks, Davey.... seems so obvious now you explain it... there's often a clue. eh? ;D ;D
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Maggie somebody had to explain it to me once as well ;D ;D ;D
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Maggie somebody had to explain it to me once as well ;D ;D ;D
Yes, Davey.... :D I suppose they did... that's what is so fantastic about being able to share and learn here...... so much to find out.... hope my brain cells are keeping hold of at least some of the great info ::)
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This should probably be in the moan-moan thread but talking of brain cells I am going blue in the face trying to explain to my husband how the car registration numbers work. I think he's got it then he asks again........ ::) ::) ::)
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Well, they do say that when 'Tropical orchid' growers give up the battle, they become 'Alpine flower' enthusiasts instead.
However, I remember Ron Dennis at the Harrogate Show stating that he was giving up Alpines and growing Hot House orchids instead because the pots were getting too heavy to lift!
Personally, I had orchids before Alpines, but now dable in both. Maybe it is 'cyclic' and I'll go back to Orchids only when I reach Ron Dennis's age!!!!
Forrestii is just showing flower buds and the compost is DRY!
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David
I have only just seen your posting and the plants are really wonderful.
Here is what I think is an Oncidium but it may be a hybrid. It was given as a piece from a friend and grows on the windowsill with a selection of rejects from B&Q's almost dead bargain trolley.
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Tony could be a wilsonara or Odontocidium more than straight oncidium
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David as I indicated in my post I thought it might be a hybrid but no way of knowing what as it is one of those plants that bits have been passed on as it has been divided and it is now nameless and a long way from its original owner. I thought the flowers are too large to be a pure oncidium.
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Tony,
I think your orchid is quite similar (if not identical) to pictures of Odontocidium "Russiker Goldbaum" (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nurelias/459027477/) (a swiss cross) I found.
Regards
Thomas
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David as I indicated in my post I thought it might be a hybrid but no way of knowing what as it is one of those plants that bits have been passed on as it has been divided and it is now nameless and a long way from its original owner. I thought the flowers are too large to be a pure oncidium.
Sorry if i stated the same,i just thought i could at least show its hybrid origin,i didn't mean offend.
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David
I was agreeing with you.It takes a lot more than that to offend me. What a difficult language English is!
Thomas
thanks for that information it certainly looks similar. We have no way of really knowing as its origin is unknown. I will pass it in though to the person who gave it me who will be interested to know.
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Laeliocattleya Firedance 'Patricia'
I'm really pleased with this. I have persevered to get this to flower since I bought it six years ago. I had begun to think I should pass it to someone who new how to look after it properly. But here it is :D Probably not as floriferous as it could or should be but its in my house not an orchid house.
The first two are with a natural background the second two have a photoshop black background.
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Good grief... how utterly glamorous is that?
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Good grief... how utterly glamorous is that?
It is isn't it :)
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My word! That does look healthy!
Great contrast with the leaves, well done!
Well worth the waite!
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Thanks Tony!
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Very nice. :)
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The plant looks fabulously healthy, Graham. What a vibrant orange. Is it grown under lights?
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Hi Tony Maren, - thanks
No artificial lights. On a windowsill in an west facing window in the lounge behind a net curtain. Has to live with the room temperature and the temperature behind the curtains when they are closed during the winter nights.
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Hi all,
Here is one of my Ceologyne cristata which grows outdoors for most of the year in full sun and only take in when the first frosts come along. I've had it for quite a few years now and it's very forgiving for some harsh treatment over the years. It has a nice fragrance around mid day and the flowers last about three weeks or so.
(http://forum.theorchidsource.com/gallery/60/medium/18989.jpg)
(http://forum.theorchidsource.com/gallery/60/medium/18990.jpg)
Oh, for scale, the plant is placed on a (full sized) upside down rubbish bin.
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Very nice, Kevin - a beautiful & big plant. Loved the 'Oh, for scale ... ' bit (I'm having to restrict myself - with difficulty & lack of space - to small or miniature plants).
It's the RHS London Orchid show tomorrow. Hooray!!!
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Wow :o
That wouldn't fit on my windowsills!!!
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Thanks for the reply and for the heads up. I forgot all about the RHS show. I'm having to change my plans for the weekend to fit in a visit now.
Hope that those of you that can make it have a great time at the show.
Kevin
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Hello Tony,
it was lovely to meet you today at the London Orchid Show. And there was another chum whose name escapes me at the moment (sorry), who exclaimed: "You are Houseslippers !", much to the bewilderment of bystanders. It's lovely to have a little hilarity.
These shows are such hard work, especially with pleiones. Every little pot has to be moss encased, very time consuming, but those are the rules. I didn't do very well this time medalwise, only a bronze, lacking in originality and difficulty of design. Seems the trimmings are judged to be more important than the plants. Reminds me of the times when there was judging in one of my orchid societies and if the pot wasn't black, the plant was marked down. You can tell from all this that I am a bit miffed, I admit it, but I'll get over it.
I was rewarded by the many people who took detailed photographs, who stopped by to read my hints & tips and complete strangers who greeted me like old friends (without telling me who they were) and thanked me for the advice I had given them. I wonder if they were forum members???? Must have been, they were lovely. :) :) :) :)
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Just got back from the London Orchid Show; well worth a visit, although my wallet probably disagrees. And, Maren, yes it was me who outed "houseslippers" , to all manner of strange looks from non-forumists!
As for the medals, don't worry, if the number of people taking photographs was anything to go by your display was very well received.
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... and lovely to meet you too, Maren. You are that rare commodity - someone who really knows their plants, AND who is prepared to divulge that knowledge very generously, AND who is friendly and welcoming as well - but I think we all already knew that on this great forum. And hi to Steve as well - my wallet took a hit but is still standing (there's tomorrow to think about).
Shame about the medal. I think your stand was in a difficult position anyway - it felt rather dark around the back behind the dividing screen - that can't help. I also suspect that a stand of just or mainly Pleiones which focuses on the plants themselves might not be enough to wow more generalist judges - Pleiones are for those of us who like to peer closely at (and photograph, as Steve says) our plants, whereas to win a gold there has to be a strong and overarching theatrical element I suspect. There's always next year ...
Looking forward to your talk tomorrow!
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Does anyone have any photos of the London Orchid show? Some general shots would be good but particularly Marens display!!
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Hi,
I have a few rather poor pictures of my display taken in a hurry. Now I look at them I come to agree with the judges that it was a bit boring and lacking in refinement. Must try harder next time. - Didn't have time to take pics of anybody else's displays, sorry.
The hardy orchid group was kindly lent to me by Malcolm Brownsword, who supports my display every year to try to attract attention to the Hardy Orchid Society.
I also owe thanks to Simon Pugh-Jones of the famous Writhlington School, who supplied me with a few trays of very well grown and open pleiones (most of mine are still a bit behind). It was interesting to learn that he grew his at 10 degrees C, whereas I maintained a minimum temperature of 5 degrees, fearing that they may not like it any warmer. I have learnt something here and I shall try it next year to save my fingernails in the run up to the show. ;) ;) ;)
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Thanks Maren,
A nice display with some good looking pleione's.
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Here are a few of my current noid reblooms.
When I post multiple pictures I'll add them by way of links to the appropriate page on Flickr or Picassa, as one click gives you the option to view at a size of your choosing.
The Cymbidium is particularly pleasing as it was bought very cheap out of bloom, so I took a risk on colour - thankfully it is my favourite colour for a Cym!
https://picasaweb.google.com/LONGK48/SRGC#5586809233467301970
The mini Phal noid is very fragrant.
https://picasaweb.google.com/LONGK48/SRGC#5586809646733635970
The third is a reliable little Cattleya.
https://picasaweb.google.com/LONGK48/SRGC#5586808507193899730
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Forgive me for the double post - I forgot my nobile Dendrobium noid!
https://picasaweb.google.com/LONGK48/SRGC#5586819369139955138
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A few shots from London. Too many people and lousy light doesn't help photography.
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Thanks Steve, good to get this "flavour" of the show.
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Now I must admit that on the "tropical" orchid front my love is paphiopedilums, the slipper orchids. I was delighted to see that the huge "cabbage" hybrids are back in fashion. Here's half a dozen of my favourites from the show. If you pick the right ones they make very easy house plants, in fact I find that I get along better with these than with the ubiquitous phalaenopsis.
Gosh, I've just become a junior member. It's been a long time since I was a junior anything! No more Newbie!
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Now I must admit that on the "tropical" orchid front my love is paphiopedilums, the slipper orchids. I was delighted to see that the huge "cabbage" hybrids are back in fashion. Here's half a dozen of my favourites from the show. If you pick the right ones they make very easy house plants, in fact I find that I get along better with these than with the ubiquitous phalaenopsis.
Gosh, I've just become a junior member. It's been a long time since I was a junior anything! No more Newbie!
I have just got my first three paphiopedilums and am probably working my way towards slowly killing them. I wait to see if they are easier than phalaenopsis which seem to do well on the windowsill.
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The bottom two pics of steves are chinese paphs Tony,well third one down is Paphiopedilum malipoense or maybe a hybrid with it and the bottom one is Paphiopedilum micranthum .
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Sorry that I didn't include names, was just trying to give a flavour of paphs available.
For completion
1 Lippewunder A hybrid which does fine in my house.
2 Sorry, the name escapes me.
3 Lowii. A species which has the possibility to grow huge. Not really a house plant, but no doubt someone will contradict me. All I'll say is that I saw one at Peterborough Show which must have been four feet across!
4 An unnamed hybrid of the "cabbage" type. These make fine houseplants.
5 malipoense.
6 micranthum. I love it but struggle to get it to do anything. it doesn't die. it just sits.
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2. is paph hirsutissimum var esquirolei
speaking of paphs i have a book if anybody would like it,its the only one i have left from my paph growing days its called Growing Orchids...Cymbidiums and Slippers by J.N.Rentoul its in very good order.
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If pushed, I'd say Paph hirsutissimum var esquirolei is my favourite Paph of all. You can keep your roths and their ilk, although if my conditions suited them (they don't) I might say differently. I'm trying hard to love the bulldogs - Ratcliffes said they are coming back into fashion - but mini-complex hybrids ... toy bulldogs as it were ... now you're talking .... :) :) :)
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Wow there are some wonderful pictures on this thread. I was deadheading one of my 'house orchids' the other day when I noticed this double flower. The top petals are fused. When I looked more closely I noticed that this flower had a fasciated (not sure of spelling) stem. Very pretty though.
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Shelagh,
your Siamese twins are quite extraordinary. Nice colour on the lip. :) :)
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Hi,
this is Phragmipedium 'La Vingatine' ( kovachii x Memoria Dick Clements) flowering in the kitchen today. The plant originates from the Eric Young Orchid Foundation, via David Stead orchids.
The flower is 12cm across and still developing.
The plant sits in the kitchen in a window with the other orchids in winter and spends the summer on the floor of the cold greenhouse amongst the tomatoes. No extra heating costs.
The plant took off when I repotted it from the original rock wool into a normal bark mix last spring. It sits in about half an inch of rain water year round and receives a bit of feed when I remember,
Regards,
David
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David,
terrific result with your 'La Vingtaine'. I wonder why it is called that, it means 'the 20th'. Maybe it took that many tries to be successful with this hybrid?? If so, it's certainly worth it.
Please tell us how long it flowers, I expect some news from you for Christmas. ;D ;D ;D
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Fantastic & beautifully grown plant, David. I've been led to believe that Phrags & especially kovachii Phrags are difficult and demanding, but your what sounds like fairly robust treatment seems to suit them. I'm encouraged to try this plant now myself.
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Maren,
I think the name is from an area in Jersy where the Eric Young Orchid Foundation (EYOF) are situated. They've named lots of grexes after places there.
It seems to be a fairly straightforward phragmipedium hybrid to grow - certainly on a par with other similar types. Once I found out that it prefers a bark based compost there was no looking back.I have one of the parents of La Vingtaine, Mem. Dick Clements, in flower as well, for the third year running.
From what I understand, two of the parents in this grex, kovachii and besseae, like to grow fairly cool. Maybe this is why it grows well at lower temeratures that you would expect them to need.
The only pity is that these new hybrids aren't readily available in Europe at the moment. Just a few on ebay now and then. Maybe the EYOF will release a few more sometime soon.
I'm sure by now they must be flowering the second generation of kovachii hybrids,
Regards,
David
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Can anyone help me with an identification of this house orchid. I was given it as a birthday present 4 years ago in flower but without a label. This is the first time it has flowered since. The petals are quite thick and substantial sorry I don't know enough about them to give you more relevant information.
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Can anyone help me with an identification of this house orchid. I was given it as a birthday present 4 years ago in flower but without a label. This is the first time it has flowered since. The petals are quite thick and substantial sorry I don't know enough about them to give you more relevant information.
Sadly all but impossible. A taxonomist may be able to help, but I enjoy them for what they are.
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I'd guess phalaenopsis. Partly since they are freely available in garden centres and supermarkets!! Tim DH
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Sorry!
I assumed that you were after the name of the hybrid....
It is certainly a Phal of some kind.
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Phalaenopsis 'Heinz'? I think there are 57 varieties of this one.
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Shelagh,
your pretty phalaenopsis is of the Brother type, and there are zillions of them and they are quite variable. The nearest I can find is the variety 'Golden Embers'. Yours is much nicer, though. :)
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Well, I did have a wee look around too and the best that I can offer is Phal. Yellow Princess.
As I say, without knowing more about the plant and it's flowering habit etc even a taxonomist couldn't help.
I have a fair few orchids in the house, mostly noids. I do have three tagged hybrids and two species. But, if it's a noid and I like it I'll buy it. I buy a few from the bargain bin out of bloom too just for the hell of it - getting them to rebloom by moving them around the house (and the garden in the summer) is where I derive my pleasure. So far Den. "Berry Oda" refuses to rebloom for me, but I'll crack it eventually.
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This is one of my bargain bin specials! It's in full bloom now, and extremely fragrant for a noid Phal. All round, a nice mini (20cm) Phalaenopsis.
Bought back into spike in a cool north facing room, moved whilst the spike was in growth into the warm office near to a south facing window, and then as the buds were starting to open it was moved to the cooler south facing spare room.
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hello,
laelia purpurata in full flower, 20year old plant....
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/garten%201/dde.jpg?t=1302948828)
cheers
chris
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Christian,
tolle Pflanze. - I've tried for years and never succeeded. Well done. ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks Maren they do look very similar. I just love the markings.
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maren, thanks, every year more flowerstems, this is my absolutly favorite laelia........cultivatet at the "sandwitch methode" with bark of metasequoia....simly and effectiv culture methode.....
cheers
chris
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Chris
What is the "sandwitch methode"? I've not heard of that one.
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hello,
look here, pieces of bark, and moss.....around the roots of the orchids....
(http://green-24.de/forum/files/thumbs/t_phalaenopsis_hybride_2_844.jpg)
(http://green-24.de/forum/files/thumbs/t_dendrobium_212.jpg)
(http://green-24.de/forum/files/thumbs/t_005_104.jpg)
(http://green-24.de/forum/files/thumbs/t_009_127.jpg)
found in the german forum green-24.de
cheers
chris
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That looks very interesting, thanks Chris ... I see you have a Phalaenopsis sandwiched as well .... so the roots are tied into a bundle of various sticks and large pieces of bark? Is there some sphagnum moss in there as well?
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tony,
this pictures are examples from an german forum, not my plants...
i use for my plant normaly moss or sphagnum moss...the laelia is in normal moss since five years, and grows very well, you see
at the picture.....the idea of the sandwich methode came from mr seeger, botanical garden heidelberg....
cheers
chris
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Oh right, so the sandwich refers to the moss/root 'filling' between the bark/stick 'bread'. Well, it looks worth a try, and also looks much better than my few specimens do currently mounted on Epiweb, not the most attractive of mounts (tho the orchids seem to like it so far).
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tony, the sandwich methode looks very natural, and it´s very good for the orchid roots.....
cheers
chris
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The first bud of Lycaste Groganii (L. aromatica x L. deppei) opened today.
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Having paid a visit to the Orchid show at Rady Castle Gardens (County Durham, UK) last weekend, I thought I would show a few pictures of the more spectacular orchids on display.
- The display by the Darlington Orchid Society
- Spectacular slipper orchid on this display, unlabelled, so I'm not even sure of the genus
- Unlabelled Masdevallia, I think it's M. veitchiana. Improbable colour, but it's accurate :o
photos (in brilliant, but accurate colour! The small versions look odd, but the colours change to the correct ones when you open them up - weird)
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Also on the Darlington OS display:
- Coelogyne cristata
- Cymbidium tigrinum
A couple of others that caught my eye:
- Vanda hybrid
- Phalenopsis (no i-d)
These pictures also change to the accurate colour when you enlarge them
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Finally - what not to do with an orchid?
This Dendrobium was on display on one of the stands in an unusual blue colour that I've never before seen in a Dendrobium. The leaves were also heavily tinted blue, so I wonder whether it has been watered with some dye which has coloured the plant. It looked like the multicoloured heathers that enjoyed (?) a mercifully short spell as the 'newest and best trend' in UK garden centres a few years ago.
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Peter,
great photos. Takes me back to times when this was a passion.
the unlabelled slipper orchid is a phragmipedium hybrid using the red species besseae.
It could be anything from several grexes but looks is possibly sargentianum x besseae( named Mem. Dick Clements),
Regards,
David
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Definitely a touch of ink there. I have seen other dendrobiums with colour 'enhancement', but they never touched the leaves. Clearly a beginner's job. ;) ;) ;) Did you buy it?
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I think it is barbaric to have done that to that otherwise lovely and well flowered Dendrobium... shouldn't be allowed! Poor thing, how embarrassed must it have felt? :-\ :'(
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Two new orchids are flowering here. These Coelogyne hybrids have smaller flowers but they're interesting and the plants have a nice habit.
Coelogyne 'Pocahontas' is C. monilirachis x C. speciosa. Thread-like flower stalks and nice reddish brown leaves.
The second one is Coelogyne monilirachis x C. lentiginosa with upright flower stalks and highly glossy leaves.
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Very interesting, Thomas, I have a fair sprinkling of coelogynes in my tropical house but never come across this one before. Thank you for showing it. :)
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Maren, as a plant I think I can recommend Coelogyne Pocahontas though I'll have to see how it likes my culture longterm.
A tidy plant about 20 cm high with arching leaves and flower stalks which appear when the new sprouts are getting bigger. Leaves are somewhat glossy and change from reddish-brown to a dark green-brown. Must be gorgeous to see a big plant in full flower.
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That'll be next year then... ;) ;) ;) ;D
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A miniature orchid I purchased bare root for 60p about three years ago.The plant is only about three inches tall and the stem about six inches long.
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Tony its a Equitant Oncidium and a little stunner never had much look with them,you have done well.
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David thanks for that. The Orchidweb says they are easy,not for me. The second one I have shows no sign of flowering.
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Hi Tony,
your equitant oncidium, latterly separated out into the genus Tolumnia, is a delight. I grow mine hanging from the roof of my intermediate greenhouse, it likes a lot of light. Don't over water. One little secret, it often reblooms from the same flower stem, so do resist cutting it off when it has flowered and see what happens. They can be a little difficult and it took me a long time to find the right place for them. And they are rather slow - your patience will be rewarded. :)
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Cattleya Peckhaviensis (C. aclandiae x C. schilleriana) is showing a wonderful though somewhat strange-scented flower.
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Another Cattleya is flowering here - C. intermedia with almost white flowers and just some colour to add interest
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Thomas those cattleya are very nice particularly the first one.
Here is a dendrobium my daughter bought me some years ago. It is a reliable flowerer every year.
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One of my favourite house orchids (maybe because it flowers reliably every year and has been with me since 2006). 4 flowers per stem at a time is about the maximum but it flowers over a very long time with a new flower opening as the bottom one fades.
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Lovely plant Roma - I know it wouldn't be to everyone's taste (too unusual for them probably), but I think it's wonderful.
Yet another plant for me to put on my list of things to look out for. :D
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Hi,
a newish addition this year from Ratcliffe's orchids and flowering after spending the summer in the cold greenhouse amongst the tomatoes.
It will spend the winter on the kitchen windowsill.
This is a wet growing plant where I keep about 1/4 inch of rain water in the saucer under the pot at all times. It occasionally receives a bit of very weak feed.
These phragmipedium hybrids seem to be fairly starightforward grow for anyone looking to branch out from cymbidiums and phalaenopsis,
regards,
David
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One in flower from me today.
I thought I had a name for this but a search around the pot came up with nothing.
I bought it at a Scone Palace orchid festival about three years ago.
The scent is really wonderful.
I took it outside to photograph it and there was a swarm of hoverflies around it within moments, (see the second photo).
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Very nice orchid, Graham.
One in flower here now:
Phalaenopsis cornu-cervi
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On a visit to a garden centre yesterday got this lovely phalaenopsis from the reject corner for £6 but resisted a 'blue 'one even though it was voted best new product in Holland for 2011,one wonders why!
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Tony what a cracking buy,i bought a white one from a market for £3.50 ;D today.
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Here are some Masdevallias flowering now.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/masdsm02.jpg)
Masdevallia schmidt-mummii
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/Masdsaltatrix.jpg)
Masdevallia saltatrix
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/masrigens.jpg)
Masdevallia rigens
regards
Lars
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I had a quick visit to the Howick (East Auckland) orchid show yesterday.
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Second batch from Howick orchid show.
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Last batch, plus two I purchased for NZ$35 each.
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Thanks ANthony. Really beautiful plants. It is strange how there are still reginal differencels. You'd never see that many CYmbidiums in Denmark :)
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This Paphiopedilum was purchased from Marks and Spencer a few years ago. Apart from the obvious amazing flower there were, and still are, two varieties in the pot. This flower comes from a very dark almost plain leafed plant. The second plant has the mottled leaves but the flower isn't quite as impressive. They never flower at the same time.
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Super photos, Graham. With leaves like that the second plant doesn't need such impressive flowers ;)
The dark glamour of the shapely bloom from the plainer foliage is pretty special.
How unexpected to be able to find such treasures in M&S. :o Always worth checking out any plant sales area, isn't it?
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Super photos, Graham. With leaves like that the second plant doesn't need such impressive flowers ;)
The dark glamour of the shapely bloom from the plainer foliage is pretty special.
How unexpected to be able to find such treasures in M&S. :o Always worth checking out any plant sales area, isn't it?
Thanks Maggi,
It really is very difficult to pass any plant stall or garden centre without looking. Just difficult to keep the wallet in the pocket sometimes. :-\
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Wow Graham, that's so lovely 8)
Angie :)
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Wow Graham, that's so lovely 8)
Angie :)
Thanks Angie :)
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Graham,
very nice - that is a really dark one.
These very dark (vini) coloured maudiae hybrids were all the rage in the orchid world in the 90's selling for high prices. Now they're generally available as un-named pot plants.
I bought one at the same time as you did and that too had two nice plants in it. I'm still on the look out for more.
They were all developed from some newly collected very dark plants, one of which was called paph callosum 'Jac'.
Up to this point the main breeding effort had been in the albino white and green maudiae types.
Plenty more on the web if you're interested,
Regards,
David
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I found this Dendrobium in my local GC's bargin shelf nice size 2 flower spikes and very healthy £3 couldn't walk past that ;D
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Graham,
very nice - that is a really dark one.
These very dark (vini) coloured maudiae hybrids were all the rage in the orchid world in the 90's selling for high prices. Now they're generally available as un-named pot plants.
I bought one at the same time as you did and that too had two nice plants in it. I'm still on the look out for more.
They were all developed from some newly collected very dark plants, one of which was called paph callosum 'Jac'.
Up to this point the main breeding effort had been in the albino white and green maudiae types.
Plenty more on the web if you're interested,
Regards,
David
Hi David,
Thanks for the additional information. I have a real liking for dark flowers which is why I bought this one. I imagine that white flowers are more appealing to the general public and that these dark ones are a matter of taste.
Graham.
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Another rescued one.No name for it.
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It is still masdevallia season and they are pretty.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/masdevalliasancta-ignesea.jpg)
Masdevallia sancta-inesea
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/Masdevalliaperisteria.jpg)
Masdevallia peristeria. Nice, relatively big flower
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/masdevallialeptoura2.jpg)
Masdevallia leptoura is multi flowering. The flowers is not that big, so a closeup is called for, for those of us who can't see very well:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/masdevallialeptoura1.jpg)
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Nice plants lars ;).I see you have Lepanthes as well .
I did have some Masdavallia,s ,but the slugs love them even more :'(
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The slugs and snails really love Masdevallia. It's a constant battle and even though I think I'm a little ahead, they do get a good bite from time to time. The ones that are mounted - like these are- are slightly better protected.
I do have one Lepanthes. I don't recall posting any prictures of it as hte flowers are so small.
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Hi Lars,
how interesting to see you growing your masdevallias on mounts. That must be very labour intensive. But they look nice and seem to flower well.
Mine produce just an ever increasing mass of leaves, nice green and healthy ones, but no flowers. I grow them cool with my Pleione praecox, min 6°C. Any suggestions? You will probably ask me what they are, but the labels disappeared some time ago. I can post a picture if it helps? ??? ??? ???
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I grow them mounted on rockwool slabs and they keep moist for days, so even though it is more labour intensive than growing in pots, it's not that bad. Besides, i dont' mind watering :)
The Masdevallias i grow are from high altitude and temperature are gdropping down to 6 degrees Celsius at night from time to time. I have had a few Madsdevallias from lower altitude, but they tend to loose the leaves when it gets cold. I do have some that i've not yet managed to flower. It might be that they need a change in temperature to do it, but i'm not sure about this.
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maren.get them outside at the end of may until about now..i put them in there pots in wire hanging baskets hung in good light ..it seems a bit alien at first but a masd expert told me to do it and the results are great.they love the fresh air/rain on them,had m caesia flower outdoors hanging on a tree branch..
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maren.get them outside at the end of may until about now..i put them in there pots in wire hanging baskets hung in good light ..it seems a bit alien at first but a masd expert told me to do it and the results are great.they love the fresh air/rain on them,had m caesia flower outdoors hanging on a tree branch..
I have a Masdevallia 'Orion' which does just what Marens does, (healthy plant), except I get the odd flower. I will try putting it outside next year. Thanks for the advice.
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I'll do that too. I have a little orchard where they could spend their summer holidays. Thanks for the tip. I might forget to water them though. :'(
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Here's Pot. 'Magic Helen'.
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Here's Pot. 'Magic Helen'.
what a stunning potinara Anthony,i am just in the process of getting some cats for my south facing window.
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Fantastic colour.
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Another bargain from the Howick (East Auckland) orchid show. 8)
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Lovely Potinara Anthony.
Dave - I've been surprised how easy catt hybrids are indoors.
Try to find ones that grow in summer and then shut down and just flower in winter.
This one was bought out of flower in the bargain bin of the local garden centre for £3 about 4 years ago.
It flowers every January with these lovely flowers and a nice scent during the day.
Regards,
David
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A primary hybrid Phalaenopsis is the first one flowering this fall. Phalaenopsis Wiganiae is P. stuartiana x P. schilleriana
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Gosh David, a fantastic plant. I may be tempted to look more at these. The local orchid society meets once a month. 8)
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Anthony - I was surprised by the growth and flowering of this cattleya hybrid myself. I'd not tried them before. It is now on its 4th cycle with 2 leads and probably 4-5 flowers at a time of year when they're very welcome. It spends the warmer summer months in the cold greenhouse with no special attention where it produces a new pseudobulb. In winter it just flowers. Very straight forward. I'd have thought that in your warmer conditions in NZ you'd have no trouble with them. They'll probably grow outside in the summer,
Regards,
David
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I think they might be grown in sheltered spots all year round here David? A shade house with netting sides and roof might be enough?
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Anthony- they certainly grow orchids in Australia in shade houses like you describe. I would think that it depends on the winter temperatures. See what the local orchid society recommend. As they're creatures of light and air then if you can, grow them outside. Mine always seem to like being outside in the summer.
Regards,
David
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Another one rescued from the garden centre a couple of years ago.
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Tony that looks like the plant i used to grow as odontoglossum violetta von holm.You certainly grow orchids well,super rescue.
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Tony - very nice hybrid of what used to be called Odontoglossum bictoniense.
Maybe something completely different now,
Regards,
David
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Today with a little it was possibly to take a picture from my Oncidium ( or a Oncidium hybrid ) -maybe nothing special for the specialists ...but I'm happy !
Hans