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Title: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on January 22, 2011, 08:06:44 PM
A little bit, and it will start again : the new saxifragaseason. This guys can hardly wait.
Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Jan Neruda' (1)
Saxifraga burseriana var. burseriana (2)
Saxifraga grisebachii ssp. montegrina (3)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
Oh yes! Those little guys are full of promise! Great fat buds.... lovely!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 22, 2011, 09:51:37 PM
And you will show them here when the buds are open please. :-*
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: astragalus on January 22, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
How beautiful they are, even when in bud.  Are they growing in troughs?  The rock looks like tufa?  How deep is the hole drilled?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on January 22, 2011, 11:40:13 PM
And you will show them here when the buds are open please. :-*

You can bet on it, Lesley.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on January 22, 2011, 11:44:09 PM
How beautiful they are, even when in bud.  Are they growing in troughs?  The rock looks like tufa?  How deep is the hole drilled?

Most of my saxifrages are growing in troughs and pots. The rock is tufa indeed. The holes are about 10 cm deep. On tufa, they are doing very well.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Hoy on January 23, 2011, 08:04:24 AM
Very nice, alpinelover, I'm looking forward to next chapter!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Mick McLoughlin on February 06, 2011, 04:13:58 PM
These Saxifrage in the greenhouse can wait no longer:
Saxifrage 'Abrecht Durer'
Saxifrage 'Louis Armstrong'
Saxifrage 'Harbinger'
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on February 06, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
That's a good show for this time of year, Mick  8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 06, 2011, 08:31:34 PM
Indeed, they look great, Mick.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 13, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
 Like a promise: one of the first saxes in bloom: S. 'Jan Neruda'. Several photos, because he's such a beauty.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 13, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
And another one, the first in bloom on a tufarock: S. 'Ganymede'.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 13, 2011, 10:14:49 PM
Beautiful indeed, and beautifully grown and displayed in their little tufa garden. :D 8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 14, 2011, 07:00:10 PM
Thanks Lesley, this is another one, S. 'Mary Golds, in several stadia.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on February 15, 2011, 09:09:25 PM
In flower in the garden (planted in a peatblock) : Saxifraga lowndesii
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 15, 2011, 11:49:54 PM
Wonderful, both of them. :P
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 17, 2011, 08:44:29 PM
This is the beautiful Saxifraga burseriana var. burseriana in several stadia. It's one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 17, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
And an other one, Saxifraga juniperifolia, sometimes abundent flowering and sometimes nothing at all. It's a bit a 'stubborn' plant.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on February 17, 2011, 08:59:13 PM
Lovely plants Frankie from a very good grower.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2011, 09:08:17 PM
I agree with you, David.


The sequence of shots to show the progression of the plant from buds to open flowers is both lovely and instructive.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 17, 2011, 11:48:18 PM
Yes, I like that sequence too, with build up to the final floral burst. Very nice. :D
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 20, 2011, 09:15:10 PM
Today, these saxifrages in flower, despite the cold en grey weather, 'Roklan' (foto 1), ‘Feuerworks’ (foto 2) and a unknown cv. on a tufa rock, which I thought it was 'Winifred', but it isn't. Any one an idea?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 23, 2011, 09:16:45 PM
A botanical engleriasaxifraga in flower today: Sax. federici-augusti ssp. federici-augusti.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on February 23, 2011, 09:18:07 PM
And this is the same species in an tufhole and is doiing very well.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 24, 2011, 04:53:50 AM
These are really lovely. I've had the last one some years ago but now have just some small seedlings in a trough. Maybe in a year or two.....
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: astragalus on February 24, 2011, 04:03:10 PM
I love the sequence pictures of the saxifraga.  Wish that more growers could do this.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Nick_the_grief on February 24, 2011, 05:19:03 PM
Wish I had the space and plants :D

It's really usefull for someone like me who's looking to get a few plants (not just Saxifrage's) descriptions never match the beauty of a photo.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ruweiss on February 27, 2011, 08:29:16 PM
Now the flowering season also starts with me, the plants in the frame are the first.
Thanks to all the other friends who show the pictures of their splendid plants.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 02, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
Great Saxes Rudi and Frankie !

I have S. megasaeflora "Josef Capek" in full flower in it's raised bed - 1&2

Saxifraga "Allendale Bonny" - a nice small flowered yellow - brought home from Harlow, last Saturday
Same as the very big flowered, pinkish S. J.W. Goethe
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Katherine J on March 03, 2011, 10:52:09 AM
How I envy you guys up there in that mild climate and early and long spring!

Alpinelover (or Frankie?) do you feed artificially your beautiful plants in tufa, or just let it to their own devices? I will try now some Sax. federici-augustii ssp. grisebachii seedlings (SRGC seeds). They are just one-rosette plants yet.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 03, 2011, 09:03:07 PM
How I envy you guys up there in that mild climate and early and long spring!

Alpinelover (or Frankie?) do you feed artificially your beautiful plants in tufa, or just let it to their own devices? I will try now some Sax. federici-augustii ssp. grisebachii seedlings (SRGC seeds). They are just one-rosette plants yet.

They all say Frankie and i love alpines.
I do not give any feed, Katherine. They like tufa a lot. And those smal, young rosettes are ideal for starting in a tufarock. Good luck!
Is it still winter in Hungary?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 03, 2011, 09:18:22 PM
Some saxifrages on a tufarock today:

S. x boydi 'Faldonside' (photo 1 and 2) with nice big pale yellow flowers.
S. 'Peach Blossum' (photo 3 and 4)
S. burseriana form ‘Seissera’  (photo 5 and 6)

And a sax growing on a well drained soil:

A unknown cultivar, probably a apiculata hybrid. (photo 7)



Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Katherine J on March 04, 2011, 07:57:50 AM
Is it still winter in Hungary?

Here it is how it looked yesterday morning:
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Katherine J on March 04, 2011, 08:00:59 AM
Here is my early bird. I bought it under the name of Saxifraga x elisabethae in Slovakia.
Last two years it had only 2-3 flowers, last summer I gave it dilute fertilizer with much K. But this is not tufa rock...
Now it will have much more flowers  :)

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Katherine J on March 04, 2011, 08:03:27 AM
Sorry, the picture was damaged, I had to download it again from my camera.
Here it is.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on March 04, 2011, 11:26:45 AM
The Sax. is growing well now, Kata. All that cold wetaher must be keeping it healthy!!

As we are beginning to get much better weather here it is quite a shock to see your cold snowy photo  :o

In the next issue of IRG  (International Rock Gardener) we will all be able to be cheered by an photo essay from Kata and her husband Ferenc on some of their favourite plant combinations in nature's own rock gardens in the European mountains.  8) :) :)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Katherine J on March 04, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
As we are beginning to get much better weather here it is quite a shock to see your cold snowy photo  :o

Don't panic, it's almost gone by now.  ;D
But we will have another dose in the weekend, according to forecasts... :-\
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on March 04, 2011, 12:25:36 PM
My sax's are starting to flower already too....

Sax 'Dawn Frost'

Sax 'Peach Melba'

Sax xirvingii 'Jenkinsiae'
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 06, 2011, 08:44:53 PM
They look great, Christine, I have some more: Saxifraga stribrnyi (photo 1) and Saxifraga ‘Feuerworks’ (photo 2), both on a tufarock.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on March 06, 2011, 09:52:48 PM
With all these tufa grown beauties I thought I'd bring your attention to a pot grown Farrer Medal winner for Mark Childerhouse at the Loughborough AGS Show om 5th March.... picture by Peter Maquire here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6833.msg190716#msg190716

 It is Saxifraga  'Mary Golds'
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 07, 2011, 08:30:23 PM
With all these tufa grown beauties I thought I'd bring your attention to a pot grown Farrer Medal winner for Mark Childerhouse at the Loughborough AGS Show om 5th March.... picture by Peter Maquire here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6833.msg190716#msg190716

 It is Saxifraga  'Mary Golds'

Oh yes, Maggi, she's a price  worth. It's a very good cultivar with every years a mass of flowers.
Today, two more, Saxifraga 'Petra' (photo 1) and Saxifraga 'Theresa Cooper' (photo 2)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: mark smyth on March 07, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
My Sax. Your Song is brilliant and the only one that likes me and my garden. All others struggle because of moss.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ruweiss on March 07, 2011, 09:06:29 PM
In spite of frosty nights (down to -6°C) more and more Porophyllum Saxifrages
show their flowers in the open frame.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2011, 06:49:43 PM
Lovely pics everyone, keep em coming!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 12, 2011, 10:52:03 PM
Another time S. 'Roklan' with a mass of flowers. (photo 1)
S. 'Vincent Van Gogh' (photo 2)
S. 'Gregor' (photo 3)
S. 'Bohemian Karst' (photo 4) with a nice red colour. (photo 4)
S. marginata (photo 5)



Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 14, 2011, 09:09:58 PM
Today in flower, this magnificent Saxifraga x  poluanglica ‘Your Success’
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on March 14, 2011, 09:36:47 PM
Beautiful Frankie, I'm sorely tempted to grow some more of them. If only I had the space!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 18, 2011, 07:47:22 PM
Thanks David, I have some more today.
S. dinnikii (photo 1)
S. Karel Capek (photo 2)
S. Allendale Celt (photo 3)
S. biasoletti ‘Jorg’ (photo 4)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on March 18, 2011, 07:50:43 PM
Very nice, thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on March 18, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Very nice, thanks for sharing

Thanks ChrisB.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lampwick on March 18, 2011, 09:50:10 PM
Picture taken today.

Saxifraga x edithae 'Bridget'
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on March 19, 2011, 10:00:49 AM
Picture taken today.

Saxifraga x edithae 'Bridget'

... a cracker.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Katherine J on March 19, 2011, 10:15:26 AM

Saxifraga x edithae 'Bridget'

... a cracker.

I agree.

Frankie, your plants are beautiful, and I like their "habitats" very much!

Here is my S. x elisabethae 'Idunnowhat', shown before in buds, now in rain:
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 19, 2011, 08:15:17 PM
A superb plant of 'Bridget.' 8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on March 19, 2011, 10:08:54 PM
Flowering today : Saxifraga 'Coolock Kate ' and Saxifraga dinnikii .
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Roma on March 26, 2011, 11:46:58 AM
Does anyone know if this Saxifraga has a name?
I bought it at the SRGC Show at Stirling in March 1990.  It was labelled seedling from Winifred and came from Lismore nursery (Brian Burrows).
The colour is not quite accurate.  It opens a brick red and fades to a biscuit colour.  Never going to be a show plant but I like it. 
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ruweiss on April 02, 2011, 09:53:49 PM
Now flowering:
Sax.dinnikii 'Stasek' a big flowering form, named after the late Zdenek Stasek,
a well known Czech plantsman.
Sax.sempervivum 'Aphrodite' quite compact and easy to cultivate.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Knud on April 02, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
Hi,
Saxifraga dinniki opened here today, quite a bit later than it normally does, but also with many more flowers than ever before. It has been in this trough now for five years, and has come through two very wet winters and two very cold winters in good style.

Knud
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on April 04, 2011, 09:39:10 PM
Very nice dinnikii, Knud, this S. sempervivum.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on April 04, 2011, 09:49:51 PM
A great plant, Lampwick, this is S. 'Arabella' (photo 1) en S. marginata subsp. rocheliana (photo 2)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 04, 2011, 10:01:28 PM
Sax lovers may be interested in some fine photos of  Saxifragas recently shown in the Spring exhibiton in Prague in this thread: Czech Spring Exhibition 27th March -2nd April

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6986.msg195610#msg195610      8) 8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Hoy on April 15, 2011, 08:39:35 PM
I had forgotten this one. Is it S. juniperifolia?
Suddenly I noticed it on a concrete slab.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: johnw on April 15, 2011, 10:46:03 PM
Saxifraga 'Jenkinsae' looking rather good despite years of neglect and today braving a biting wind.

My we seem to be a terribly civilized lot despite being unpoliced these days.

johnw
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 19, 2011, 10:30:55 AM
Adrian Young was bemoaning the lack of European plants ... and especially Saxifragas, of course, in the talks at the  Nottingham Conference.... good to know they were still in favour here!

I carried in two lovely plants from Frank  Mullvaney ( I think  that's the name; charming fellow with an even more charming wife) for the Show. Didn't get pix, I'm ashamed to say.


John,
the discretion shown by Forumists in my period of semi-exclusion in Nottingham is remarkable.... some of you must have realised that with the joys of wi-fi   that I was still keeping a watching brief on you and this has  resulted in this exemplary behaviour.... I am proud of you all!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: alpinelover on April 25, 2011, 09:05:26 PM
A first Saxifraga from the sectie Ligulatae: S. 'Ramsey seedling'.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 26, 2011, 07:25:37 PM
The Winifred seedling from Brian Burrow looks like S.Lismore Carmine
Ss.Winifred x georgei
The pic is of David Hoares plant, I can't grow it
like that in a pot. ;D
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 26, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
Welcome to the Forum Adrian. Great to have "The Last word" on saxes here. ;D


Don't encrusted saxifrages just adore troughs and rocky crevices? No alpines look more comfortably at home, in such places. Truly made for such plantings. 8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 27, 2011, 10:51:52 AM
Hello Adrian, it was great to see you in Nottingham. Hope you've recovered from the lack of Saxes in the talks?!  ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 27, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
Welcome to the Forum Adrian. Great to have "The Last word" on saxes here. ;D


Don't encrusted saxifrages just adore troughs and rocky crevices? No alpines look more comfortably at home, in such places. Truly made for such plantings. 8)

Hello Lesley
I don't know about the Last word, there are a few experts around these days.
I have concentrated on Kabschia and Silver cultivation.
So I can chat about that no problem.

Yes, they love Rocky crevices, (both Kabschia and Silvers) in fact they Love rock full stop.
They are Saxatile plants and grow better always with rock.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 27, 2011, 11:45:15 AM
Hello Adrian, it was great to see you in Nottingham. Hope you've recovered from the lack of Saxes in the talks?!  ;)

Maggie, yes recovered from Nottingham. I enjoyed the event but could have done without
some of the talks.
Ian's talk was great, informative and practical.
Plus a trough full of saxes.  ;)
Just for the record Maggie I do like other alpines, I grow a lot of Daphnes, Dianthus, Phloxes, Iris
and Campanula, but definately no Dionysia (I leave those to Nigel Fuller)

I will be up your way in October, put the kettle on.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 27, 2011, 12:52:47 PM
Adrian, kettle and porridge always at the ready, shortbread ingredients to hand and a cosy bed available.... see you in October!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 27, 2011, 01:11:13 PM
Does anyone know if this Saxifraga has a name?
I bought it at the SRGC Show at Stirling in March 1990.  It was labelled seedling from Winifred and came from Lismore nursery (Brian Burrows).
The colour is not quite accurate.  It opens a brick red and fades to a biscuit colour.  Never going to be a show plant but I like it. 

S.Lismore Carmine
Ss.Winifred x georgei
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Roma on April 27, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Thanks Adrian.  The colour does not seem to be the same as my plant.  I would not describe it as carmine.  Could Brian have sold more than one clone of this cross?  i suppose I would need to contact him for further information, but 20 years is a long time and he has produced a lot of garden worthy plants in that time.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 28, 2011, 12:24:10 AM
I'm desperately searching for a photo I have of a sax which came to me as seed in the early 70s, from a Czech called Antonin Cernovicky. I doubt if he's alive now as I think he was in his 70s then. Anyway, it had a name which I never could find a reference for and I've forgotten that years ago. But I felt the sax was a cotyledon form and it had a short, (8 cms) stem of white flowers, shaped like a squat pyramid. I'd like your opinion on it, though, alas, I have lost the plant now too. At some stage I had the photo scanned onto a disk but can't find that either. I'll try and find the photo and have it rescanned. Would love to have the plants agaiin, it was really beautiful and different due to the scape shape.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 28, 2011, 09:19:16 AM
I'm desperately searching for a photo I have of a sax which came to me as seed in the early 70s, from a Czech called Antonin Cernovicky. I doubt if he's alive now as I think he was in his 70s then. Anyway, it had a name which I never could find a reference for and I've forgotten that years ago. But I felt the sax was a cotyledon form and it had a short, (8 cms) stem of white flowers, shaped like a squat pyramid. I'd like your opinion on it, though, alas, I have lost the plant now too. At some stage I had the photo scanned onto a disk but can't find that either. I'll try and find the photo and have it rescanned. Would love to have the plants agaiin, it was really beautiful and different due to the scape shape.
Lesley
Was it  wild collected seed or a garden cultivar, seed from a cultivar could end up as anything.
You mention S.cotyledon, that has a tall flower stem, 8cm makes it a small plant.
Hope you find the picture.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 28, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Adrian, kettle and porridge always at the ready, shortbread ingredients to hand and a cosy bed available.... see you in October!
Maggie
Appreciate your offer, all though I am not sure about the Shortbread, on a diet.
I will have Rex Murfitt with me so may need to find a Premier Inn
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on April 28, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
No problem to accommodate Rex too.... but please do not use four letter words like "diet" around me... I am of a very sensitive nature!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 28, 2011, 11:49:58 AM
No problem to accommodate Rex too.... but please do not use four letter words like "diet" around me... I am of a very sensitive nature!
Cheers Maggie, only four letter word from now on begins with "F"...............................food
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 28, 2011, 09:54:52 PM
I've found one picture, not the one I wanted which showed a single flowering rosette in profile, but one with several flowering rosettes and a number of baby rosettes where older flowering ones have died off. As they do. :) I'll have to get it scanned in town as my scanner software isn't up to much and botches everything. Will do that today and hopefully post it early next week.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: johnw on April 28, 2011, 10:18:26 PM
Adrian, kettle and porridge always at the ready, shortbread ingredients to hand and a cosy bed available.... see you in October!
Maggie
Appreciate your offer, all though I am not sure about the Shortbread, on a diet.
I will have Rex Murfitt with me so may need to find a Premier Inn

Premier Inn?  ::)  The last time we dined with Father Murfitt he wanted to go to Denny's. :o :o :o

I'm still recuperating.  http://www.dennys.com/ (http://www.dennys.com/)

Give him our best.

johnw
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on April 28, 2011, 10:48:24 PM
Adrian, kettle and porridge always at the ready, shortbread ingredients to hand and a cosy bed available.... see you in October!
Maggie
Appreciate your offer, all though I am not sure about the Shortbread, on a diet.
I will have Rex Murfitt with me so may need to find a Premier Inn

Premier Inn?  ::)  The last time we dined with Father Murfitt he wanted to go to Denny's. :o :o :o

I'm still recuperating.  http://www.dennys.com/ (http://www.dennys.com/)

Give him our best.

johnw
I will do John, what is your name?
I have suffered at Dennys in Vancouver with Rex a couple of times!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: johnw on April 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
{quote}I will do John, what is your name?
I have suffered at Dennys in Vancouver with Rex a couple of times!
[/quote]

re: Denny's You have my condolences!  Rex is always entertaining.

Will PM you.
 
johnw
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 29, 2011, 02:57:00 AM
The last time we dined with Father Murfitt he wanted to go to Denny's. :o :o :o

I'm still recuperating.  http://www.dennys.com/ (http://www.dennys.com/)

How COULD you???
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 02, 2011, 04:48:23 AM
I'm annoyed that the photo shop has just scanned a print I found onto a disk and made a print but not scanned to disk, the much better slide of the same plant so I'll have to get that done (Wednesday) as it shows much better, the way the rosettes flower and the shape of the whole plant. I see on the slide I have the name S. cot. var platyphylla but I don't know where that comes from, certainly not the original plant as it came to me from (then) Czechoslovakia.

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on May 02, 2011, 10:01:24 AM
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Lesley Cox link=topic=6559.msg199883#msg199883 date=1304308103]
I'm annoyed that the photo shop has just scanned a print I found onto a disk and made a print but not scanned to disk, the much better slide of the same plant so I'll have to get that done (Wednesday) as it shows much better, the way the rosettes flower and the shape of the whole plant. I see on the slide I have the name S. cot. var platyphylla but I don't know where that comes from, certainly not the original plant as it came to me from (then) Czechoslovakia.

Lesley, thats a nice form of S.cotyledon, years ago they gave var. names to many clones, var.platyphylla had
wider than normal rosette leaves and a pyramid shaped inflorescence. It should be treated as a cultivar,
S.cotyledon 'Platyphylla'
Below is a pic of S.cotyledon 'Pyramidalis' growing in the French Pyrenees, this has a larger inflorescence, but narrower leaves.
Also S.cotyledon 'Norvegica' a very attractive clone.
Plus a pic of typical S.cotyledon rosettes.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 02, 2011, 10:15:04 PM
Thanks Adrian, nice to be sure about the name even if too late! I'll post the other when I have it scanned tomorrow. Is it likely that forms such as 'Playtphylla' and 'Pyramidalis' might turn up in collected seed of S. cotyledon? In other words, if I had some coll seed from the exchanges or someone commercial, would I maybe chance on some of these forms? Presumably the 'Norvegica' form comes from Norway.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on May 06, 2011, 07:59:44 PM
A few Saxes, all fairly common but nice. Bit like me really! :P

Saxifraga 'White Star'
S. 'Mossy Pink'
S. collosa var. australis
S. Clarence Elliott'

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on May 07, 2011, 03:41:36 PM
 
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author=David Nicholson link=topic=6559.msg200508#msg200508 date=1304708384]
A few Saxes, all fairly common but nice. Bit like me really! :P

Saxifraga 'White Star'
S. 'Mossy Pink'
S. collosa var. australis
S. Clarence Elliott'


Nice, happy to see some common ones, good plants are good plants,
Keep them coming David
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on May 07, 2011, 04:46:26 PM



Nice, happy to see some common ones, good plants are good plants,
Keep them coming David

Apart from Saxifraga 'Peach Melba' which I forgot to photograph whilst it was in flower that's my lot Adrian. There will be more though in the future ;D
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on May 11, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
A better pic, I think, than I posted the other day of my Saifraga collosa var. australis

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 12, 2011, 02:00:05 AM
I put this in another Saxiraga thread but perhaps it could go here too.

Saxifraga cotyledon var platyphylla
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Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on May 12, 2011, 10:57:18 PM
Very compact plant Lesley.  Lovely...
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on May 20, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
I've had this Sax. longifolia three years now, and when the snow finally melted, it was flat as a pancake.  Look at it now.  So sad its going to die after flowering.  Lovely thing and it has been much admired.  Must save seed!!!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 22, 2011, 06:55:35 AM
My saxes are not very good this year. Only a few are in full bloom. J.W.Goethe for example.
(http://cs4942.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/y_7844f414.jpg)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 22, 2011, 10:31:06 PM
Well that one is VERY good Olga. I really love those little cushion saxes. An your longifolia is a sight to see Chris. Good luck with the seed. Some is germinating here now, a gift from David Pilling. :) Some other tiny little seedlings are coming along nicely too. 8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on May 23, 2011, 02:06:08 PM
Thanks Lesley.  That certainly is a nice sax, Olga!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Hoy on June 04, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
Your saxes are quite different from this one! It is a rather common species but I like it. Pics taken on the island of Jomfruland, S Norway, where it grows in abundance.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 05, 2011, 12:00:14 AM
Saxifragas in the grass! How lovely.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Magnar on June 05, 2011, 07:27:42 AM
would like to show one of my favourite saxes, S. dinnikii
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ruweiss on June 05, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
Saxifraga 'Jaromir' is a small encrusted plant with unusual red flowers.
It was found in the famous garden of the late Jaromir Grulich from Czech
Republic. Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 05, 2011, 10:14:17 PM
My word! That IS unusual, and very nice indeed. :D
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 05, 2011, 10:19:06 PM
Rudi, this was timely... we have a lovey red saxifraga that we cannot  remember the name of but it may be Jaromir... the flowers are almost over but I think Ian may have a photo. I'll show it tomorrow. He thinks he recalls the name Jaromir...... I do hope we have this plant to remember Mr Grulich.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Hoy on June 05, 2011, 10:29:22 PM
Jaromir was special!  and dinnikii wasn't bad either, Magnar.

Crossed the mountains on my way home today and only Saxifraga oppositifolia was in flower:
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on June 06, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
Love Jaromar!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on June 06, 2011, 01:48:57 PM
Rudi, this was timely... we have a lovey red saxifraga that we cannot  remember the name of but it may be Jaromir... the flowers are almost over but I think Ian may have a photo. I'll show it tomorrow. He thinks he recalls the name Jaromir...... I do hope we have this plant to remember Mr Grulich.
Maggi
If you have not got S.Jaromir, I can send you some cuttings, roots easily.
There is also HareKnoll Beauty but that is more pink, Jaromir is red.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2011, 02:01:21 PM
That's kind, Adrian... Will send pix when I find them.... think the flowers are too far gone now to be properly representative.
 Ian thinks we  may have got Jaromir from Gerd Stopp but I can't find this lists to check  :-X
Ian thinks he can lay his hands on label pix as well later when he returns.  ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on June 06, 2011, 03:41:24 PM
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Maggi Young link=topic=6559.msg203910#msg203910 date=1307365281]
That's kind, Adrian... Will send pix when I find them.... think the flowers are too far gone now to be properly representative.
 Ian thinks we  may have got Jaromir from Gerd Stopp but I can't find this lists to check  :-X
Ian thinks he can lay his hands on label pix as well later when he returns.  ;)

Gerd Stopp was the main/first supplier of this cultivar, he has listed it for the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2011, 03:53:41 PM
Aha! Then I think we're getting closer to our answer! It is a super plant... though the flowering stems are quite  surprisingly tall... 15cms maybe.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on June 06, 2011, 04:13:17 PM
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Maggi Young link=topic=6559.msg203917#msg203917 date=1307372021]
Aha! Then I think we're getting closer to our answer! It is a super plant... though the flowering stems are quite  surprisingly tall... 15cms maybe.

15cm is possible, but no taller (are you generous with the Osmocote?)
BTW the mail to Henrik did not bounce back (but no answer yet, probably in the hill
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
Very mean with feeding, Adrian. Certainly no Osmocote.  They're in a lean trough with high crevices filled with very little!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
Been out to grab some shots myself. Colour isn't very true, I have a flower in front of me here and it is a dark maroon type red, though it's showing pink in the pix and the older flowers get paler.  Flowers are approx. 8 to 10 mm across. Some stems are taller than I thought... up to 22cms ! 
 click the pix to enlarge them....
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ruweiss on June 06, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
Maggi, I think you also have the true plant, the shape of the rosettes is the same like with my plants.
The height of the flowers depends on the amount of sunshine which the plants receive, my plants get
quite a lot. I also have Hareknoll Beauty to compare; this Saxifraga is also a real gem ,but the colour
of the Jaromir flowers is much darker. My first plant was also from Gerd Stopp who distributed it widely.   

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2011, 10:10:35 PM
Thanks, Rudi.  We like this plant very much, the very dark flowers are so pretty and there are lots of flowers, dancing over the plant. It is in a sunny place in the garden.... but sunny in Aberdeen is not the same as sunny in other places!  ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on June 08, 2011, 05:33:39 PM
That is definitely Jaromir, can't mistake those flowers and rosettes.
I have 3 plants at Waterperry with flower stems half that height,
must be the light levels, I guess. They finished flowering about 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on June 08, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
I think it must be the low light levels indeed. There are a lot of flowers though, so the taller stems don't look bad, just "airy". Not to say they wouldn't be nicer at half the height.  :-X
They've been in flower for several weeks now- folks were admiring them in their glory after the Aberdeen show on the 21st May.... and will keep looking pretty nice for at least another week, I reckon.... hail and gale force winds notwithstanding. ::)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on June 17, 2011, 11:01:07 AM
I am looking forward to Spring 2012 already, sad really.
I thought a small reflection on Prague April 2011 may be in order.
Karel Lang and Jan Burgel had new cultivars on show.
S.'Cancan'  Ss.marginata Edwards x dinnikii     - Jan Burgel
S.'Bohemian Paradise'  Ss.cinerea x columnaris – Karel Lang
S.'Electra'  Ss. x dinninaris x  kotschyi – Oldrich Maixner
S.'Stan Laural'  TBA
S.'Samba'  Ss.'Tvuj Uspech' x kotschyi – Jan Burgel
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 18, 2011, 11:57:35 PM
Oh God. Thank goodness I have plenty of head hair because I'm tearing it out in handfuls in frustration that we can never see let alone grow any of these. The orangey ones are outstanding.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on June 19, 2011, 07:34:40 PM
Oh God. Thank goodness I have plenty of head hair because I'm tearing it out in handfuls in frustration that we can never see let alone grow any of these. The orangey ones are outstanding.
Do you grow any Kabschia sax in your part of the world, excuse my ignorance I have
never been to NZ
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 19, 2011, 10:18:22 PM
We do indeed Adrian, and many years ago there were probably 20 varieties with (semi) reliable names available. Most have been lost due to years of east coast droughts (most of our alpine growers live on the east coast of the South Island) and I would say we now have perhaps only half a dozen, all very old varieties. We are unable to import plants, and seed only if we can identify the parents of hybrids, newer species not at all.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on July 18, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
This may be perfectly normal but I can't say I have noticed it in previous years but my Saxifraga collosa var australis is in flower again after flowering like mad for most of May. This time the stems are very short. Is this normal?

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on July 18, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
No its not normal David, callosa would normally flower in May
with long flower stems, the flowering rosettes would then die.
I have seen this happen a couple of times before and it was
put down to a growth mutation.
The other thing that can happen is that the flower growing point
was damaged just before the stem elongated and a secondary
flower growing point took over, this is why the flower stem is
so short.
I would dig the plant up and save any healthy rosettes by turning
them into cuttings.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on July 18, 2011, 06:55:02 PM
Many thanks for that Adrian. My plant did indeed flower in May, pic below. I'll take your advice.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Peter II on July 18, 2011, 07:24:18 PM
Dear David,

what is the bottom right?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on July 18, 2011, 08:09:11 PM
Peter, it is Erodium 'Bishop's Form' and it has spread out a bit since I took the picture above in May.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Peter II on July 18, 2011, 08:12:27 PM
aha, thank you.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on July 18, 2011, 08:21:45 PM
I should add that it's full name is Erodium x variabile 'Bishop's Form'. Nice little plant that must be easy as I haven't killed it-so far
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: katijah2 on September 19, 2011, 10:23:05 AM
I love these plants......but,

...Always a but is'nt there  ;D

After so long, especially if I want to move them they easy fall apart, also if it too wet they do this.

We get a lot of rain in Lancashire, maybe this is the reason.

 :)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 20, 2011, 12:23:44 AM
Katijah, you might want to dig a plant that's fallen apart and have a look among the roots, as falling apart is typical damage caused by vine weevil grubs. I've lost many a Saxifraga from this cause. If you get it early you can make cuttings from the loose bits.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on September 20, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
Oooh David, your garden is so neat and tidy..... and that's a lovely sax you have there.  Now its on my list...
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on September 20, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
Thanks Chris, it looks neater than it actually is, I didn't recognise it when I re-visited the picture ;D

If you read the post immediately before the pic you will see I had problems with the plant and it split into several rosettes. I've treated these as cuttings but they don't look too healthy. S callosa var australis is a lovely little plant and did well for me for a couple of years.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: ChrisB on September 20, 2011, 07:04:47 PM
Hi David,

I've been rooting cuttings of all kinds of saxes in a mix of sand and vermiculite kept damp in a tray within a tray and they have all rooted successfully for me.  I needed to do this to have tiny plants to put in my mini garden.  They are all growing away strongly.  Try it, I'm sure it will work for you...  I haven't been following the thread a lot lately, just happened on that lovely pic of it on the last page.  Must revisit to get the background....
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on October 12, 2011, 05:12:11 PM
Would somone have a go at an ID for this please. Some years ago I got seed from one or other of the Exchanges of two Silver Sax species. One of them was Saxifraga collosa var australis which I've pictured here before and this was the other one. It's been buried underneath the foliage of Verbasum 'Letititia' and I'd quite forgotten about it. Someone in the household (and it wasn't me!) decided to give 'Letitia' a very severe haircut and I'm afraid the shock was tool great for her and she expired thus revealing this little beauty.

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2011, 02:55:00 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on October 13, 2011, 07:05:03 PM
Anyone speaking
Are you sure its a Silver sax?
It could be an Engleria sp. or cultivar.
If it is a silver it would be a longifolia hybrid, need to see it flower.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: David Nicholson on October 13, 2011, 08:33:01 PM
Thanks for responding Adrian. The label is long gone but I was fairly certain I had seed of two Silvers. Still, as you suggest I'll post a pic when it flowers.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: gote on October 14, 2011, 01:11:51 PM
I agree that itis a longifolia or very close. If longifolia they should of course be given more space. No engleria I have ever seen looks quite like these.
Göte
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Hoy on October 24, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
The Saxy season hasn't ended yet. S. fortuneii is still in bloom today - a very nice, dry, sunny and "warm" day +15C!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: Maggi Young on November 28, 2011, 01:45:26 PM
Had to share this : seen in the Flemish Forum..... a member's  description, to rival the Croconuts, I think.... he's a Saxifrolic  ;) ;D ;D

http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?topic=273.msg15879#msg15879

Some great saxes in their forum, by  the way!

2011 pages start here : http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?topic=273.0
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2011
Post by: adrian young on November 28, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
Great stuff Maggi, wish I spoke Dutch
There is a pic of a plant called S.‘Feuerworks’
posted by Frankie Wulleman
It looks like a x paulinae maybe 'Paula' or 'Kolbiana'
do any of our Dutch friends have any info on this name?
or anyone for that matter, it's not a sax name I have come
across before
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