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Title: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Roma on April 14, 2010, 10:43:03 PM
Does anyone recognise this Saxifrage?  It opens pale pink and fades to white.  The faded name on the label looks like 'Kasava'.  I see in the Plantfinder there is a Saxifraga 'Krasava' but without a description I am none the wiser.
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Maggi Young on April 14, 2010, 10:57:12 PM
www.arrowheadalpines.com/white2_gallery/pages/Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Krasava'.htm    ( two photos) ...... not quite a match .... here are other cultivars with similar names but I haven't yet found photos of them....

Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Karel Hasler' .... no, this one's yellow!
Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Karlin'
Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Krákatit'
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Maggi Young on April 14, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
Found this photo of Krasava which looks more like yours, Roma..... :-\
http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/les-plantes-de-rocaille-f17/saxifrages-le-retour-t2956.htm
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Roma on April 15, 2010, 10:36:49 PM
Thanks Maggi, that looks like it.  You are amazing!    If I could remember who I bought it from I could have asked them.  I do try to note new purchases but often do not write them down before I've forgotten where they came from. 
 
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Tim R on April 30, 2010, 05:27:36 PM

Roma
Your label is correct, the plant is Saxifraga x megaseaflora 'Krasava'
Tim
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on May 28, 2010, 08:53:36 PM
I have a couple of lost label Saxes could anyone ID them please?

Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: hadacekf on May 29, 2010, 07:37:35 PM
David,
I think the first picture shows Saxifraga 'Clarence Elliott' . Very similar is Saxifraga London Pride.
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 30, 2010, 12:23:54 AM
Or you could call them Saxifraga "A" and "B"  ;D
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on May 30, 2010, 07:02:06 PM
Many thanks Franz you have solved one problem for me.

Lesley, I wouldn't sleep at night if I did that ;D

I've been racking my brains and thumbing through old notebooks trying to solve the picture two problem. Possibly four/five years ago I sowed seed from the SRGC Exchange of two Silver Saxes and, of those that survived my neglect, the resultant seedlings were very similar to my inexperienced eye. I can't remember their species names but do remember that "australis" was included in one of them. I have searched through my copy of Malcolm McGregor's "Saxifrages and can only find one mention of "australis"- Saxifraga callosa ssp. callosa var. australis. Is my picture good enough to confirm if my plant is possibly this one please?
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Diane Clement on May 30, 2010, 07:09:14 PM
I have searched through my copy of Malcolm McGregor's "Saxifrages and can only find one mention of "australis"- Saxifraga callosa ssp. callosa var. australis. Is my picture good enough to confirm if my plant is possibly this one please?

Looks possible David - take a look at the Saxifraga Soc site here:
http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon.asp?Taxon=877 (http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon.asp?Taxon=877)
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on May 30, 2010, 07:19:29 PM
I have searched through my copy of Malcolm McGregor's "Saxifrages and can only find one mention of "australis"- Saxifraga callosa ssp. callosa var. australis. Is my picture good enough to confirm if my plant is possibly this one please?

Looks possible David - take a look at the Saxifraga Soc site here:
http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon.asp?Taxon=877 (http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon.asp?Taxon=877)

Thanks for the Link Diane. It does look feasible. This is the first seedling to flower and it's a bit sparse this year.
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Diane Clement on May 30, 2010, 08:34:22 PM
Thanks for the Link Diane. It does look feasible. This is the first seedling to flower and it's a bit sparse this year. 

I've just looked it up in Beryl Bland's book 'Silver Saxifrages'.  She says of S callosa subsp callosa var australis:

Distinguished from var callosa by having strongly recurved oblanceolate leaves that broaden at the tip (which is almost diamond shaped)
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on May 31, 2010, 09:27:38 PM
Thanks for that Diane. I think this is perhaps a better pic of the rosette of my plant.

Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Mick McLoughlin on May 31, 2010, 10:03:48 PM
David,
This is what I have labelled as s. australis superba.
Cheers
Mick
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Roma on May 02, 2011, 09:00:57 PM
Another Sax for ID.  I got this one many years ago from Holden Clough Nursery as Saxifraga arco-valleyi 'Arco' which it definitely is not.  It sat in my raised bed growing very slowly.  Two or maybe three years ago I split it up and have 5 plants in pots now.  The rosettes are tiny and the flower stems are a bit long compared to the size of the plant.
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: ChrisB on May 28, 2011, 08:48:24 PM
A friend gave me this saxifraga.  Can anyone help with its name please?
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: ChrisB on May 28, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
Oops sorry, pics not the right size.  Hope its ok Maggi...
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Maggi Young on May 28, 2011, 09:01:34 PM
I'd resize them for you, Christine, but my connection is being troublesome.  :-X
Not to worry!
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on February 03, 2012, 12:17:44 PM
Amongst the Sax seed I've received from the Exchanges is S. x cochlearifolia and I can't find any reference to it in McGregor. Could anyone tell me more about it please?
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Maggi Young on February 03, 2012, 12:37:52 PM
Beats me, David, I see Kew lists it as an 'unresolved' name -
Saxifragaceae Saxifraga × cochleariifolia Schrad. ex Kunze
Linnaea 16: 318. 1842
Original Data: ??
Notes: Europ

I expect Adrian, Tim  or one of the others may know more.



Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: Tim R on February 03, 2012, 04:56:29 PM
My guess is that it is a corruption of S. cochlearis, or S. cochlearis x ?. Which could be S. x farreri or S. 'Probynii'.
Tim.
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: adrian young on February 03, 2012, 05:53:55 PM
Saxifraga × cochleariifolia Schrad. ex Kunze
= Ss. rotundifolia x x polita ?
This was a garden hybrid 150 years ago,
it is reported as extinct many many years ago.
Also as it is a hybrid you cannot grow it from seed.
I would treat this seed with a lot of caution,
let us know what comes from it.   ;D
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on February 03, 2012, 06:49:46 PM
Thanks Tim and Adrian, I'll label it "Saxifraga ???" and hopefully, one of these days, I'll be able to post a pic of what comes up.

It was in both SRGC and AGS Exchanges- (3702 SRGC) (5118 AGS) if the donator(s) read this perhaps they might tell us more and show us a pic.
Title: Re: Saxifraga for ID
Post by: David Nicholson on June 11, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
A friend gave me this saxifraga.  Can anyone help with its name please?

Long time since you posted this Chris but I found it today whilst browsing. Your plant looks very similar to a seedling I grew see here, reply 56
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9979.45 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9979.45)
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