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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: ajbroome on November 01, 2009, 03:16:15 AM
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Folks,
I thought I'd start this month off with a nice form of Arum dioscoridis that I obtained with the name 'spectabile'.
Andrew.
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Very nice. I have yet to flower the one I have (from you I believe)
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I have some young ones from you Andrew, not flowered yet but years ago when my mother grew it (I think we imported it from Col. Mars in Surrey) the ground colour was light yellow and the spotting black. Seems it varies therefore. What I chiefly remember was the stench, and the fact that neighbours complained about the drains when it was in flower. Like Schultz, my mother and I "knew nothing."
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Wachendorfia thyrsiflora, is quite easy to grow, smetimes it can be too easy, forming large clumps and producing numerous self-sown seedlings.
It flowers for a long time from spring until summer, producing an abundance of golden yellow flowers on erect stems.
Do you still grow these Wachendorfias en mass along your drive Paul?
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Just a few more close-ups of those spidery Hippeastrum named hybrids between H.cybister, H.aulicum and H.papilio.
Quite spectacular when in flower, a very welcome, and beautiful additions for the hippy addict.
Hippeastrum La Paz
Hippeastrum Rio Nigro
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Another beautiful tree flowering at the moment is our own native Kowhai the exquisite Sophora tetraptera.
Regarded as our national flower, the beautiful golden-yellow flowers can be seen troughout the country.
Tuis and other native birds love the nectar. Kowhai are easy to grow, being tolerant to most conditions.
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Oooh, Bill. I have been looking for those for ages.
Ross, depending on their increase, (recently imported) we might be able to organise something, keep reminding me.
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Will do
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Sorry about the last few postings, they are still stuck in the October folder/forum. (senior moments :-[ :( >:()
Is it possible to put them in the "November 2009 in the Southern Hemisphere" forum Maggi please? Thanks.
Otherwise go and have a look, will post here from now on, must remember next time.
edit by maggi: you're welcome!
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A dainty, dwarf, double Rhodohypoxis flowering at the moment, something different from the normal single flowering plant.
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As I mentioned before, I am really getting interested in the Irises, but hate when people give/swap me bulbs or rhizomes with no names.
Could someone please identify these irises? Thanks,
Bill
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Sorry about the last few postings, they are still stuck in the October folder/forum. (senior moments :-[ :( >:()
Is it possible to put them in the "November 2009 in the Southern Hemisphere" forum Maggi please? Thanks.
Otherwise go and have a look, will post here from now on, must remember next time.
I thought you southern hemisphere folks were AHEAD of us, Bill, not behind??? ;) ;D ;D
I've rounded up your stragglers! ..... and now, some time later... I've rounded up my own! :-[Sorry, Bill and John W, for isolating your Wachendorfia pic and comment!
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Wachendorfia thyrsiflora, is quite easy to grow, smetimes it can be too easy,
Bill - I have tried to grow this one on countless occassions. It grows well but dies in the cool greenhouse during the winter - every time.
Have tried drier and moister - and intermediate - in the winter but down they go. Lovely red roots though before they rot.
Any suggestions?
johnw
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Bill, the iris is I. foetidissima and is actually a prohibited plant, i.e. you aren't allowed to have it on your property (but many of us have!) because the beautiful opened seed pods full of large bright red seeds, are highly toxic. There is a perceived danger to children in particular. Grow it but be discreet about it. :-\ Having said that, it is probably the least attractive of all irises.
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Trillium erectum
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Some flowers now out:
Ornithogalum arabicum, with sage
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A white moraea which is possibly M. cedarnontana,
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The dazzling Genista lydia
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A Western Australian shrub, Verticordia (not sure of the species, possibly chrysantha)
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Triteleia hyacinthina can spread a bit, but looks lovely this time of year,
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A new one from seed (thanks to Jane McGary) is T. bridgesii
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An old favourite is the yellow T.ixioides, just starting here,
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cheers
fermi
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I already posted these on the Calochortus thread, but in case you haven't read that here are Calochortus luteus
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and C. superbus
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cheers
fermi
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Great stuff, Fermi. I love the Verticordia. 8)
Bill,
The double Rhodohypoxis is different isn't it. I must say I rather like it. I've seen pics before of doubles up in the northern hemisphere, but not anywhere down south. The single ones are doing brilliantly here at the moment, although not on the display of yours en mass of course. ;D
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I already posted these on the Calochortus thread, but in case you haven't read that here are Calochortus luteus
cheers
fermi
Fermi, another new topic I missed already again. ::) ::)
Love these Calochortus flowers!
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Ross and Lesley both said something along the lines of...
> I have some young ones from you Andrew...
I have 3 or 4 different clones (of A. dioscoridis). My Arums have had a bad year though so I suspect 'spectabile' will be the only one to flower. I plan on doing a major re-pot of my Arum spp/forms once they go dormant.
As far as Iris foetidissima goes, I saw some at work today. People have been planting odd things in to the garden there for years, there's mostly natives but with some nice clumps of Clivia and so on (including some Dracunculus vulgaris) scattered around the place...
PS: Lesley, I still have at least one pot of Weldenia doing well. :)
Andrew.
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Bill - I have tried to grow this one on countless occassions. It grows well but dies in the cool greenhouse during the winter - every time.
Have tried drier and moister - and intermediate - in the winter but down they go. Lovely red roots though before they rot.
Any suggestions? johnw
John, I am not sure what you are doing wrong, I am not doing anything special, We grow our Wachendorfia thyrsiflora, in a sunny, well drained spot in the garden, with plenty of seedlings coming up everywhere, not always were we want them.
Perhaps you should try our fertile, free flowering seeds next time, I will have about a million seed to spare later ;D
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Is the Wachendorfia hardy Bill, say to -6 or -7C?
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Your white Moraea is a lovely thing Fermi. :)
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Paul, the double Rhodohypoxis are all, (I believe) bred in New Zealand, or were in the first place. There may be northern forms now. They came from Terry Hatch (now retired) at Pukekohe near Auckland. His 'Kiwi Girl' is a good red and at least a few people in the UK have it but I've never seen it here. 'Bright Eyes' (which I think is Bill's) doesn't always perform well, the buds refusing to open properly. It may be a climate thing, and Bill's warmer climate (than mine) has produced a better result.
Terry had some odd notions about plants, including the plants he bred himself. The double Rhododhypoxis were mostly sent to the NH and not made available here. The fabulous dwarf Nerines which came from my friend June Keeley of Timaru, were sent to Terry on June's death. But he was breeding bigger and bigger forms and, I was told, couldn't be bothered with the smaller forms and dumped the lot. A lot of angry southerners over that, having watched June's work over many years.
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But he was breeding bigger and bigger forms and, I was told, couldn't be bothered with the smaller forms and dumped the lot. A lot of angry southerners over that, having watched June's work over many years.
And now more than a few northeners can be added to that list.
Just out the door to hear our guest lecturer from Vancouver, Philip MacDougall on The Fractured Garden - Asian plants and their North American counterparts. Hope to see shots of the many great plants he collected seed of in Hokkaido and Taiwan this past September, some new to cultivation.
johnw
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Is the Wachendorfia hardy Bill, say to -6 or -7C?
Lesley, I am afraid you'd be struggling; Wachendorfia thyrsiflora do best if grown frost-free but can withstand light frost of short duration, but not the heavy -6 or -7 C or more frosts you do experience down south.
You'd be more than welcome to some seed later, if you're willing to take the risk.
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While Fermi has mentioned the Triteleia, we have a Brodiaea elegans and Dichelostemma multiflorum in flower at the moment.
The genus Brodiaea, mainly native to North America, has undergone considerable revision by the botanist over the years, and many species previously placed under Brodiaea are now regarded as belonging to other genera such as Triteleia, Dichelostemma and Ipheion.
Dichelostemma multiflorum
Brodiaea elegans
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Nice colours, Bill. Looks like the Dichelostemma multiflora has good sized flowerheads? I must check up on my ida-maia, which is the only Dichelostemma that I grow. I haven't noticed it this spring, so that doesn't bode well for it. :o I like the Brodieas, Tritelias and Dichelostemmas, but only grow a few (but I grow lots of different Ipheions). I think more a case of not seeing them available rather than avoiding them or anything. Thanks for the pics.
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Well sure, I'll take the risk Bill, if you have plenty seed. The whole of life's a risk, it seems to me. ;D
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Wurmbea recurva is an attrative South African species which flower in spring.
It has recurving leaves about 15 cm tall and flower stems 15-20 cm tall.
These carry up to 40 dark purplish black flowers, which are vanilla scented.
The second picture is a Spiloxene capensis, which makes a stunning show on a bright day when the flowers open in the sun.
The flowers usually have iridescent dark brown/purplish or peacock-blue central eyes.
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The Spyloxene is awesome Bill !! :o :o
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Both look fascinating Bill
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Bill,
Im so fond of the Spyloxene. Never saw a living plant here in Germany. Is it an easy growing plant? How long does a single flower last?
Gerd
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Bill,
the Spyloxene is mouthwatering. Certainly it has genes of Crocus mathewii ??? ;D
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Bill,
You are really treating us to some fabulous plants. It is a great joy to view them even if I don't grow them. Many thanks, Paddy
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Lovely Spiloxene, Bill. I am so envious when I see so many wonderful southern hemisphere plants you can grow. I used to grow a few at work but did not take many home when I retired. Partly due to lack of space and partly due to insufficient heat for winter growers.
I grew Spiloxene capensis for many years. It flowered twice with many years in between.
Gerd, I found the flowers lasted a few days but only opened a few hours per day - maybe 10am till 2pm.
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Well sure, I'll take the risk Bill, if you have plenty seed. The whole of life's a risk, it seems to me. ;D
Lesley, would you like a couple of seedlings of the Wachendorfia's packet in damp moss?
Could send them next Monday if you like Fast Post.
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That would be nice thanks Bill.
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Lesley, is this still your current postal address? How old is this label?
Drop me a PM for your current postal address please?
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Bill, Im so fond of the Spyloxene. Never saw a living plant here in Germany. Is it an easy growing plant? How long does a single flower last? Gerd
Gerd, good to hear from you and show an interest in these beautiful species.
As far as the cultivation of the Spiloxene species is concerned, most grow naturally in milder climates (like New Zealnd, Australia and South Africa), in slightly damp areas in full sun or semi-shade.
The flowers of the sun-loving species close each night and open before noon on warm, sunny days, they generally last for a few days, but are replaced on a regular intervals for the next few weeks.
The peacock colours of the Spliloxene capensis flowers, (sometimes called golden stars) can vary in colour, including white, golden yellow and rarely pink.
In the more colder climates, growing in a glass or greenhouse is perhaps the only way to grow these beautiful plants.
I will post a few more Spiloxene species pictures of the ones we grow.
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I am also pleased everyone is enjoying the rare and unusual flowers we grow in the SH, and get as much satisfaction posting them.
Much appreciated :) :) :)
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Iris chrysographes (the black iris) is another stunning plant and one of my favourites.
Today the first flower opened up from seed planted 2-3 years ago.Probably the prettiest species of the subseries.
Needs sufficient moisture in the soil during the growing period.
Full sun and plenty of room are essential for good development.
A rich, slightly acid soil is ideal, but it will also grow in a slightly alkaline soil.
Basically, I. chrysographes grows better in more humid regions than in those with a dry continental climate.
Not easily photographed, hopefully will show the very dark almost black colours.
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Lesley, is this still your current postal address? How old is this label?
Drop me a PM for your current postal address please?
Sorry Lesley, just discovered your postal address in your posting last month, my apologies :-[ :-[ :-[
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Bill, Thank you for showing all these stunning Spiloxene species.
New to me that the genus is found in Australia and NZ also.
Do they need a dry resting periode?
Gerd
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Lovely, Bill! Great pics. 8)
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Iris chrysographes (the black iris) is another stunning plant and one of my favourites.
Bill, this iris is absolutely stunning, so dark, so full of deep colour but with higher tones still retaining the wonderful flowing shape - a a solitary specimen its fantastic and I wonder how effective it would be in a group?
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Lesley, is this still your current postal address? How old is this label?
Drop me a PM for your current postal address please?
I guess the label is about 12 years old Bill and though we live in the same place, the road number is different. I'l email you. Wow! did I charge $12 for a weldenia back then? A bit less now. :)
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Bill, Thank you for showing all these stunning Spiloxene species.
New to me that the genus is found in Australia and NZ also.
Do they need a dry resting periode? Gerd
Sorry about the delay Gerd, have been away with the campervan for the weekend, fishing ann relaxing along the beach.
Anyway, we normally dry the Calochortus off, tip the containers, sort, clean and store the corms in a cool and dry place, and plant them again in the autumn when the soil cools down.
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I guess the label is about 12 years old Bill and though we live in the same place, the road number is different. I'l email you. Wow! did I charge $12 for a weldenia back then? A bit less now. :)
Don't worry about the price Lesley, must have been worth that 12 years ago, I was just joking and reminiscing with the old label.
BTW: send off your little parcel with a few small plants of Wachendorfia thyrsiflora, by fast post
Should arrive tomorrow or Wednesday. Please let us know when they arrive safe and in good health.
Price-list is coming, my wife broke her wrist, and is still in plaster, and I am hopeless in the office :( :( :(
No jokes please ;D ;D ;D
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Its that time of the season when the calochortus are flowering again.
There is considerable diversity among the species, and most have exacting requirements for succesful cultivation.
It is important to know the natural habitat of a particular species, so that its cultural requirements may be determined.
Calochortus venustus, sometimes called the mariposa tulip is diverse and beautiful species.
The range of flower colour includes shades of pink, red, cerise, scarlet, gold, cream, lavender and bronze with various markings.
Calochortus luteus, is known variously as gold nuggets and yellow mariposa.
It is similar to Cal. venustus and has similar requirements.
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OK, two more, beautiful, not so well known Calochortus species.
Calochortus tolmiei and Calochortus momophyllus.
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Bill, this iris is absolutely stunning, so dark, so full of deep colour but with higher tones still retaining the wonderful flowing shape - a a solitary specimen its fantastic and I wonder how effective it would be in a group?
Robin, a group of these magnificent black iris I imagine would be spectacular, I will have to wait till they clump up.
Thanks for your interest, most appreciated.
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Bill
Thanks for sharing more of your amazing plants, How I would love to live in New Zealand and be able to grow all of your plants.
Sorry to hear your wife has broken her wrist :(
Angie :)
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Bill, Thank you for showing all these stunning Spiloxene species.
New to me that the genus is found in Australia and NZ also.
Do they need a dry resting periode? Gerd
Sorry about the delay Gerd, have been away with the campervan for the weekend, fishing ann relaxing along the beach.
Anyway, we normally dry the Calochortus off, tip the containers, sort, clean and store the corms in a cool and dry place, and plant them again in the autumn when the soil cools down.
Bill, that doesn`t matter - unbelievable during our cold and foggy november days - I would like I could change hemisphere for 3 months.
Although your Calachortus are just as nice and interesting as the Spiloxene please let me know whether the last ones need a resting periode too.
Gerd
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Your Calochortus' look just as stunning as all your other postings Bill !
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There's no doubt that Calochortus with their often tall, thin stems, look best en masse. :)
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Four pics this morning, the first a Miniature Tall Bearded iris (Table iris) called 'New Idea' and I think this will be a very good variety as in the first place the foliage is very healthy, and the two stems on this new plant will have about 10 flowers. The foliage is short so the flowers are well above it and the flowers have something of the look of the regelia hybrid 'Vera' though I don't think there is any aril breeding here.
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Something completely different. This little plants hangs on year by year but tends to die off in small patches. It is lovely though, Asperula nitida puberula.
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And the annual pic of Ranunculus parnassifolius, a few more blooms each year. I'm hoping for some more seed as well. The first is in flower still in its seed pot, from 2007. Just one came through then a lot more came up in 2008 which is why I didn't disturb the first one.
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Lesley nice Ranunculus parnassifolius :)
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And the annual pic of Ranunculus parnassifolius,
We shall never get bored of it Lesley ... and I bet Mr Buttercup won't either ! 8)
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Bill, Although your Calachortus are just as nice and interesting as the Spiloxene please let me know whether the last ones need a resting periode too. Gerd
Gerd, wheather they are the winter or summer flowering Calochortus species, I treat them the same as most other bulbs, as a rule they all appreciate a dormant dry, cool storage spell during the hottest part of the summer, before planting again in the autumn when the soil cools down, after which the cooler soil will trigger the bulbs in making rapid root growth again.
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And the annual pic of Ranunculus parnassifolius, a few more blooms each year. I'm hoping for some more seed as well. The first is in flower still in its seed pot, from 2007. Just one came through then a lot more came up in 2008 which is why I didn't disturb the first one.
Lesley, seeing your Ranunculus picture reminded me when I walked the famous, most beautiful track in the world, the magnificent Milford track, 3 years ago with my brother in November.
Has anyone on this forum ever walked this spectacular scenic rich track? A once in a lifetime experience.
Anyway here are some pictures I snapped while walking along this track.
Lesley, with your alpine knowledge, you could perhaps mention a few of the plants in the pictures. Thanks.
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Just a few more of those spidery hybrid Hippeastrum crosses between H.cybister, H.aulicum, H.papilio, and H.vittatum, flowering today.
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BTW: this is where I went for a shower, after a long exhausted 8 hour walk, cool and refreshing ;D ;D ;D
I was standing back at least one kilometer when I snapped this picture.
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Thank you for the advice Bill!
The Milford track must be dreamlike!
Gerd
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Bill the Celmisia is perhaps C. verbascifolia and the Ourisia may be O. macrophylla but I'm NOT sure and David or Dave will know better than I. The Ranunculus is, of course, R. lyallii.
Gerd, the Milford Track is billed (sorry) as "The Most Beautiful Walk in the World" and I doubt if many would disagree. It's a stiff walk over, I think 3 days or maybe 4, staying in very good huts at night and you can either take a large back pack or have it taken for you (more expensive). Nowadays it's necessary to book maybe 2 or 3 years in advance if you want to do it at the most popular time, through late spring/summer. Fabulous plants and utterly magnificent scenery. You need to be fit but small children have done it and adults in their nineties.
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Gerd, the Milford Track is billed (sorry) as "The Most Beautiful Walk in the World" and I doubt if many would disagree. It's a stiff walk over, I think 3 days or maybe 4, staying in very good huts at night and you can either take a large back pack or have it taken for you (more expensive). Nowadays it's necessary to book maybe 2 or 3 years in advance if you want to do it at the most popular time, through late spring/summer. Fabulous plants and utterly magnificent scenery. You need to be fit but small children have done it and adults in their nineties.
Thank you Lesley - I really would like to do this trip. Please remind me in 2032 when I am in my nineties - hoping I am somewhat fitter then as in my sixties. ;)
Gerd
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I know the feeling Gerd. Looks as if I'll need to join you in 2032. :D
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Lesley, I'm amazed how similar your Ranunculus lyallii looks to our Ranunculus baurii - perhaps not the flowers so much as the leaves - both are amazing plants! R. baurii grows in moist, elevated sites in the Drakensberg.
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You're right Rogan, the leaves are quite similar. In R. lyallii they are very thick and almost leathery and they hold a lot of water from which deer have been known to drink - before munching them to obliteration! Ours too, comes from moist, elevated positions over the Southern Alps and the wetter side of the main divide.
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It was Remembrance Day here yesterday, so I took these poppy pics this morning!
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi, what a great thing to do, your poppy photos are wonderful.
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Bill the Celmisia is perhaps C. verbascifolia and the Ourisia may be O. macrophylla but I'm NOT sure and David or Dave will know better than I. The Ranunculus is, of course, R. lyallii.
Gerd, the Milford Track is billed (sorry) as "The Most Beautiful Walk in the World" and I doubt if many would disagree. It's a stiff walk over, I think 3 days or maybe 4, staying in very good huts at night and you can either take a large back pack or have it taken for you (more expensive). Nowadays it's necessary to book maybe 2 or 3 years in advance if you want to do it at the most popular time, through late spring/summer. Fabulous plants and utterly magnificent scenery. You need to be fit but small children have done it and adults in their nineties.
looks lovely! but 'booking' for a hike is shocking enough for me, 2-3 years in advance is mind-boggling.. is it private land or a park with restricted access? of course no point letting so many people in that all you see is hikers, rubbish, and trampled plants...
there is a hiking trail apparently in southern alberta in Dinosaur Provincial Park which must be paid for, but that's because of fossils; the plants can be seen elsewhere for free...
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Accommodation is very limited on the Milford track. It is administered by the Dept of Conservation and goes over some quite high alpine passes - overseas visitors often underestimate the rapid change of weather in New Zealand in alpine areas, with often disastrous results. There have been a number of deaths this year. It is within a National Park, and unlike places in Europe there are no chairlifts or cafes along the track. The only way out if you injure yourself is by helicopter - weather permitting!
Check out the following site: www.milfordtrack.net/
Susan
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.........there are no chairlifts or cafes along the track.
WOT! no cake!!?????? ;D
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Of course there is cake - but you have to carry it in yourself ;D
When we did the Routeburn track, we had to carry our own food and take out our own rubbish. This meant no cake, but had the whisky in a flask and (close your eyes if this is offensive) wine in a can. It was an Australian red and I have to say, you had to be pretty desperate to drink it. It was on a special and I have never seen it since, obviously not a great hit, even with trampers!
Susan
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Thanks Susan, for supplying the required culinary details. You're right, it ain't no walk in the park, even though it's a National Park (and World Heritage area now?)
If you're at the OFM on Saturday, call at the caravan, I have a page that may amuse you. :D
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..........This meant no cake, but had the whisky in a flask and (close your eyes if this is offensive) wine in a can. It was an Australian red and I have to say, you had to be pretty desperate to drink it. It was on a special and I have never seen it since, obviously not a great hit, even with trampers!
Susan, I think they sold the last vat for paint stripping 8)
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It's not a cake walk then Lesley ???
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there is a hiking trail apparently in southern alberta in Dinosaur Provincial Park which must be paid for, but that's because of fossils; the plants can be seen elsewhere for free...
The charge is actually for a narrated bus tour on a narrow dirt road loop into the dinosaur-dig area of the backcountry, not for access to any hiking trail. (I have never taken the public tour but have driven along the same route and gone into the backcountry in a few places while on a specially-arranged geology field trip.) The bus tour does not involve any hiking opportunities beyond walking a few steps to the odd lookout point though.
The only publicly-accessible hiking trail in Dinosaur is a loop from the campground through the sagebrush flats down to the cottonwood groves along the Red Deer River - a couple of kilometers long - which is part of the reason why we don't go there often... though the scenery, bird-watching and plant life are otherwise alsolutely fascinating. (Of course, if there was normal access to the backcountry, it would be stripped clean of fossils in no time! This area is actually the field research area for the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology in Drumheller, Alberta.)
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Definietely not a cake walk David, and I don't believe they let golliwogs go on it either. :)
Oh God, is someone going to upbraid me for being politically incorrect, or for racism?
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Lesley, when people get to our age they'r entitled to be as un-politically correct as possible just to annoy the ranks of the politically correct ;D
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I think they sold the last vat for paint stripping
David, I wish I could get some now. I am currently stripping window frames and the "eco friendly" stuff is worse than useless.
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Lesley, when people get to our age they'r entitled to be as un-politically correct as possible just to annoy the ranks of the politically correct ;D
I'm relying on it David.
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Flowering for the first time from seed (NARGS 2007 coll: Utah) Penstemon palmeri
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On a slightly smaller scale, P. pinifolius "Mersey Yellow"
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Moraea gracilenta, continuing to flower, with "King's Spear", Asphodeline lutea in the background,
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Sprekelia formosissima (growing with Siberian Iris "Sapphire Rose" in second pic)
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cheers
fermi
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there is a hiking trail apparently in southern alberta in Dinosaur Provincial Park which must be paid for, but that's because of fossils; the plants can be seen elsewhere for free...
The charge is actually for a narrated bus tour on a narrow dirt road loop into the dinosaur-dig area of the backcountry, not for access to any hiking trail. (I have never taken the public tour but have driven along the same route and gone into the backcountry in a few places while on a specially-arranged geology field trip.) The bus tour does not involve any hiking opportunities beyond walking a few steps to the odd lookout point though.
last i looked at it (not in person) my understanding was that you had to pay even for that short loop you mention, and at least sign up or register or something similar; i certainly understand why they need to have some control over the area, but not a place i'd go under those circumstances, unless you could pick a really offseason time when it was still open and worth going.....we passed by the tyrell museum last year, in early july, i think, and the parking lot was so busy we didnt even stop--ditto lake louise this year!
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Crinums are becoming increasingly popular with gardeners and collectors, and are the focus of much breeding work.
Typically the species produce large beautiful flowers, extremely large bulbs and strong bold foliage.
The first one is Crinum macowanii a native to South Africa and east Africa to Ethiopia. This species rarely offsets and is usually grown from seed. The sweetly scented flowers open in the evening and last for two to three days.
Crinum 'Monterey Delight' is a C. × powellii (C. bulbispermum × C. moorei) hybrid with of a delicate pink colour, and sweetly scented flowers .
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Your Penstemon palmeri is so charming, Fermi, I love the soft colour and growth habit, congratulations you must be very happy with your first flowering ;)
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Bill, both Crinums you have grown look wonderful and it's good to know the native one is scented - is it very perfumed?
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Be sure to sniff the Penstemon palmeri, Fermi! It's one of the very few fragrant ones, so a bit of a novelty there.
What lovely plants and photos all!
(Cohan, there are no charges for using the trails in Dinosaur, only for the bus tour (and the campground, of course - see the website)... I forgot that there are a few other little trails around the entrance/visitor center too, but nothing that gets you into the backcountry. Access to the backcountry is not allowed, in other words.)
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Bill, both Crinums you have grown look wonderful and it's good to know the native one is scented - is it very perfumed?
Robin, yes the Crinum macowanii has a delicate perfume, not to overpowering, but mainly noticeable at night.
With the hybrids, breeders when crossing the various species/cultivars are also aiming to breed back the old fashion perfumes.
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Oh God, is someone going to upbraid me for being politically incorrect, or for racism?
What's good for Hone Harawira is good enough for Lesley. Yeah right!!! ;D ;D ;D
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bill, great stuff-- the Crinum macowanii has a really pretty 'striping' effect...
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Something different this time, the magnificent Puya alpestris Although this is an extremely vicious barbed plant and not recommended for planting close to paths or where anyone is likely to brush past, the flowers are incredibly beautiful flowering in the spring.
Nearly 3" long, very heavily waxy and the most unbelievable shade of dark turquoise, they force you to stop and admire them.
Best planted in full sun. Drought tolerant. Native to high slopes in the Andes of southern Chile
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Oh Bill,
what a dream at this rainy day in the northern hemisphere.
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Oh God, is someone going to upbraid me for being politically incorrect, or for racism?
What's good for Hone Harawira is good enough for Lesley. Yeah right!!! ;D ;D ;D
Don't mention that man to me Bill, a real chip of the old (maternal) block. Likewise a national disgrace. >:( >:( >:(
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Great pics, Bill and Fermi. I sowed seed last year of the Puya, but no germination unfortunately. I was hoping. ;D I just love the colour. 8)
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OK, two more, beautiful, not so well known Calochortus species.
Calochortus tolmiei and Calochortus momophyllus.
Hi Bill,
I was looking in "Calochortus: Mariposa Lilies & Their Relatives" by Mary E. Gerritsen and Ron Parsons and I think your C. monophyllus is more likely to be C. amabilis or C. pulchellus. It does cross with C. albus to produce a pendant hybrid but the type is upward facing.
The first flowers on Alstroemeria hookeri are appearing,
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Another yellow flowerer is our native "Lemon Flax Lily", Thelionema umbellatum "Yellow Rush Lily", Tricoryne elatior
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cheers
fermi
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Nice, Fermi. I don't think I've ever seen a yellow Thelionema before. :o
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Nice, Fermi. I don't think I've ever seen a yellow Thelionema before. :o
Whoops! Corrected the name to "Yellow Rush Lily", Tricoryne elatior! The lemon flax lily is much lighter in colour and mine didn't survive it's first year here - must try it again!
cheers
fermi
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Phlox adsurgens Wagon Wheel hanging over the edge of a concrete trough.Enjoying the cold wet wet wet >:( conditions of the last few days.
Cheers dave.
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Puya alpestris from the Andes is so unusual, Bill, it certainly turns heads with that incredible turquoise flower - is each stem growing by itself as a one off?
Fermi, lovely Alstroemeria hookeri against the dry grass - Alstroemeria are native to south America too aren't they?
Lovely Phlox adsurgens Wagon Wheel, Dave, the flowers look quite big...
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Dracunculus vulgaris, sometimes called the Dragon Arum, or Voodoo Lily
The very striking deep purple-black spathe sends upward a shimmering purple-black "jack" which can grow to as long as 50 cm, though 20-30 cm in length is more likely & still mightily impressive. This black spadix extends from the rather vaginal spathe, leading this aroid to be called "amorphallus" in form.
The eerie erotic beauty of this plant can be a little shocking. If this plant is not widely popular, it is because it needs to attract carrion-eating pollinators, so will briefly smell bad,
Fortunately the dungy rotten meaty odour only occurs when the inflourescence is mature & lasts only long enough to attract a few flies, then the plant is satisfied & ceases to stink. Generally the bad odor only lasts one or two days. Best planted far enough back in the garden
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Puya alpestris from the Andes is so unusual, Bill, it certainly turns heads with that incredible turquoise flower - is each stem growing by itself as a one off?
Robin, the stamens form dense panicles up to two meters tall at the ends of long stems.
The plant with the rosette of leaves dies after flowering, leaving offsets to carry on.
The fruit are capsules that enclose winged seeds.
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Hi Bill,
I was looking in "Calochortus: Mariposa Lilies & Their Relatives" by Mary E. Gerritsen and Ron Parsons and I think your C. monophyllus is more likely to be C. amabilis or C. pulchellus. It does cross with C. albus to produce a pendant hybrid but the type is upward facing.
Fermi, in hindsight, I am inclined to agree with you, I do grow both species but it definitely looks more like Cal. amabilis.
Thanks for the correction.
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Bill, forgive me for not mentioning it before, your little parcel arrived safe and well on Thursday. They're potted up and looking just fine. Thanks very much. I'll be interested to see how it goes on as ultimately, it will live outdoors here.
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Divine.
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They are Doug, I only wish I could grow them :(
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OK Doug, I'll sell my soul for those. It is not so long ago when we grew these but with the passing of years we found it more and more difficult while friends in north of Ireland continued to succeed with them. Their conditions were a bit cooler and wetter than ours.
Great plant. Paddy
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Great photo and the blue is outstanding 8)
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They are Doug, I only wish I could grow them :(
.... sigh..... I know the feeling David !
Gorgeous flowers Doug !!
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A beautiful little NZ native all rounder, Carmichaelia nana. (was C. enysii)
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Here is another nice blue coloured Iris sibirica "Over in Gloryland" that I picked up at the last local Iris show in Tauranga.
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And another nice white Watsonia "Frosty Morn" suitable for the borders and makes good cut flowers.
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Nice Watsonia, Bill. Nice to see the red stems with the white flowers.... most of the whites I have seen previously lack the red pigment in the stems.
Doug,
The Carmichaelia nana is a cutie. How big? I'm assuming it looks to be a groundcover type?
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While on the subject of Tropaeolum species seed, I have just finished harvesting fresh seeds of Trop. azureum and Trop.brachyceras and perhaps Trop. tricolor later.
Anyone interested in exchanging seed especially the tropaeolums just send me a PM at daffodil@xnet.co.nz
I prefer exchange for obvious reasons, (eg. Narcissi miniature species, Trillium, Tropaeolum. Hippeastrum ) but If you have not got anythings to swap, (or have some seed available perhaps later in your NH season) don't worry, you're still welcome to some seeds.
Cheers, Bill
BTW: there could be a few seeds with some minor interesting variations and colours of the leaves and flowers of the Trop.azureum.
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NOTE: Bill has also been posting on "Trops" in the Tropaeolum thread:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1463.345
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A beautiful little NZ native all rounder, Carmichaelia nana. (was C. enysii)
Doug, I grew this from seed many years ago and have the plants growing still - well, they are very small and growth is hardly noticeable. However, I have never had a flower on any plant - very disappointing. Also, your plants seem far fresher than mine, a much brighter green on the 'foliage'. Perhaps mine are a little starved or might benefit from growing inside. The flower is very like our native Restharrow, Ononis sp.
Paddy
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A couple of plants flowering now. bye Ray
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Gladiolus sp.JPG
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Your raised beds certainly produce some wonderful plants, Ray :D
Romneya coulteri is something I've always admired - it's really lovely!
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Ray,
have you some information about Urcelonia peruvianna? Look's like a bulb.
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Bill, can Watsonia be somewhat invasive?
The reason I am wondering is that I have seen it growing wild in areas in Oz, am not sure if there had homes at some of these places that had disappeared over time.
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Helen,
It would be hard to complain about that white watsonia, even it was running a bit wild. I grow several species and cultivars here and have always found the white ones to be the slowest to bulk up.
Here some cultivars bulk up into good sized clumps with reasonable ease but do not seed about.
Bill's is an especially good plant.
Paddy
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Ray,
have you some information about Urcelonia peruvianna? Look's like a bulb.
Uli, have a look on this site. It is in more languages and German too.
http://de.gardening.eu/Pflanzen/Zwiebeln/Urceolina-peruviana/2520/ (http://de.gardening.eu/Pflanzen/Zwiebeln/Urceolina-peruviana/2520/)
Urceolina peruviana is beautiful!
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Paddy,
I wouldn't complain if there was a big clump of Bill's white watsonia out in my garden either. ;D
I doubt the ones I remember from my childhood were anywhere near as nice.
Actually, I never knew what they were, we used to call them wild gladioli. ::)
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Bill, re: Drac. vulgaris.
> ...rather vaginal spathe, leading this aroid to be called "amorphallus"
I'm not sure that anatomically 'vaginal' and '...phallus' are equivalent. :)
(hopefully that's not offensive to anyone here).
Andrew.
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Arum dioscoridis.
This is the form that I consider to be 'typical' in cultivation in NZ.
Andrew.
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Folks,
Iris nelsonii, a personal favourite. Given to me by a friend but apparently originally from southeast of Abbeville, Louisiana.
Andrew.
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Folks,
Ornithogalum dubium.
I have *no* idea how to grow this. I bought it flowering about 6 years ago as one plant. The next year it came up but didn't flower. The intervening years it never even came up but I couldn't throw it out as there was a healthy bulb in the pot. This year, 9 plants came up and they're all flowering. Weird.
Andrew.
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Folks,
Romulea rosea. I know it's a weed but if it did the decent thing and was difficult to grow and didn't reproduce so easily then everybody would want it.
Andrew.
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Folks,
A 2nd attempt at this one, sorry if it turns up twice.
Arisaema ciliatum. I don't know if this is the ssp liubaense or not. It's always hard to get a decent photo as the flower is typically hidden between two leaves...
Andrew.
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Folks,
Disa tripetaloides 'white - Sielmar'.
For some reason after sitting around for years both my Disas are flowering this year, D. uniflora isn't far away...
Andrew.
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Folks,
Stylidium graminifolium, the only species of one of favourite genera that we're allowed in NZ. I have to go to Australia to see other species...
I'll post photos of the flowers once they open but I'm rather excited to see this flower after almost losing it.
Andrew.
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Folks,
Phaedranessa cinerea, it never opens up to be the umbel I'm expecting from the photos I've seen (the bracts seem to get in the way). Still, a nice thing that sets seed...
Andrew.
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Folks, do you remember some discussion of Autumn flowering Camellias in the October Flowering Now thread?
Re: Flowering in October 2009
« Reply #143 on: October 25, 2009, 12:37:17 PM
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Thanks so much Paul for giving an overview of Camellias through the months - very good news and I shall do some searching to see what I can grow
Look at this in Jim McKenney's Blog....... http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ lovely big plants, full of flower!
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I looked at May, being equivilent to our November. Poor, beautiful little bird. :'(
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Here is Iris kamaonensis which opened yesterday, I bought this just 3 or 4 weeks ago from Louise and Peter at Hokonui. I'm not sure but it is probably from seed and the likely source would be Josef Halda. It is quite different from Bill's shown on a previous page. This is a combo of lavender, deeper purple, whitish and a tawny ginger colour and I think is very beautiful. The deeply recurved falls are strongly so, and when I straightened out one to photograph, the fabric creased.
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That is beautiful, Lesley
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Helen, some Watsonias can be very invasive indeed, from tiny stem bulbils I believe as well as many cormlets and perhaps seed too. Some Auckland cemetaries are totally infested with them and DOC (Dept of Conservation) is trying to have the whole genus prohibited from being grown. Stupid though, as so many are already well established and at least one nursery is breeding new forms. Most are perfectly well-behaved anyway.
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Andrew you're right about A. ciliatum - and others - being difficult to photograph well. Here is one I prepared earlier (last year). :)
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Lesley, I couldn't agree more.
Do you also have huge expanses of freesias growing wild in paddocks and along roadsides?
I really miss freesias.
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Lesley,
Iris and arisaema - two beauties.
Paddy
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Dactylorrhiza and Roscoea cautleyoides
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Do you also have huge expanses of freesias growing wild in paddocks and along roadsides?
I really miss freesias.
Well I certainly don't but a friend has the old Freesia burtonii growing en masse in a paddock and another which is a rather muddy cream colour likewise. The scent is incredibly good. I came home from my son's house a couple of days ago with a flower of the rose 'Mme Alfred Carriere' in the car. It wilted badly but even so the scent was amazing. Old fashioned rose which is superb anyway, overlaid with ripe pasionfruit and lemon verbena. I've ordered one for next winter.
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Thanks Lesley and Paddy for answering Helen's concerns regarding the Watsonia "Frosty Morn" while I was away.
I'll do the same for you next time.
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Here is Iris kamaonensis which opened yesterday, I bought this just 3 or 4 weeks ago from Louise and Peter at Hokonui. I'm not sure but it is probably from seed and the likely source would be Josef Halda. It is quite different from Bill's shown on a previous page. This is a combo of lavender, deeper purple, whitish and a tawny ginger colour and I think is very beautiful. The deeply recurved falls are strongly so, and when I straightened out one to photograph, the fabric creased.
That's a very nice Iris kamaonensis Lesley, what a gorgeous colour combination, another one for the wanted list.
Does this Josef Halda have a price-list? Have you bought seed from him before?
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Two more Hippies flowering in the nursery at the moment, one of them a rather nice dark seedling flowering for the first time.
The first one a rather excellent colourful species, ideal for breeding with other species/varieties.
Hippeastrum blossfeldiae
Hippeastrum dark red seedling
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Arisaema ciliatum. I don't know if this is the ssp liubaense or not. It's always hard to get a decent photo as the flower is typically hidden between two leaves... Andrew.
Thanks for showing your beautiful Ariseama ciliatum Andrew, now I know what what Arisaema species I've got.
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Dietes bicolor is a very easy, rewarding South African species, just starting to flower, with a long flowering season.
Better in half shade, it grows to a large clump with time.
Dietes bicolor.
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Fine hippeastrums Bill, grown & photographed to your usual high standards 8)
Once an attractive seedling like this is identified, how would it be bulked up for commerce?
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I do so love this combination of colouring - a beautiful flower on your Dietes bicolor Bill :)
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Josef Halda is in the Czech Republic and so far as I know, does an annual seed list. I've not bought from him myself, but I know others who have done and still do, a mixed bag so far as satisfaction with the seeds is concerned. I have no address but try Google.
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But you already have it Bill. You posted a pic maybe last month, as I can't find it here, or on the Iris page.
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Hippeatrum papillio and some of those odd spidery species are available now in our garden centres as bulbs ready to pot. But upwards of $20 each.
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Strong nor'wester today and the temp is 33C at 11am. Hot for us. Taking pics is just about impossible in the wind but if I don't get this one now it will be shredded and smashed.
Tall bearded iris 'Old Black Magic.' REALLY black and I love it. :)
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Lesley,
your "Old Black Magic" TBI is a stunner. Wow! 8)
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Wow, Lesley, what a stunner.
Paddy
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Tall bearded iris 'Old Black Magic.' REALLY black and I love it. :)
It's certainly got me under its spell! I wonder if it's in Oz?
cheers
fermi
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Tall bearded iris 'Old Black Magic.' REALLY black and I love it. :)
Where have you been hiding this one Lesley, I'll be after this black beauty. 8) :o ;D
>But you already have it Bill. You posted a pic maybe last month,<
Yes but your Iris kamaonensis is different in colour and always more desirable when you haven't got it. :( :(
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Lesley, your Iris is an absolute stunner. ;D
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My kamoanensis came from Hokonui Alpines at Gore, Bill. You could ask there.
We had dreadful hot winds here yesterday so I cut the stem of OBM, to stop it being quite shattered. This morning in a jar on the table, the falls were deep purple as the sun shone through them but the falls were still black, so I moved it into the shade.
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'Old Black Magic' came from Mossburn Iris Gardens, PO Box 96 Mossburn, Southland 9747. Sorry, I thought you were asking about I. kamaonensis. Other great blacks are 'Anvil of Darkness,' 'Before the Storm,' 'About Last Night.'
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My Australian trigger plants (Stylidium graminifolium) have been keeping me amused for the past week or two. In addition to their rather interesting 'trigger' action, they make very colourful spikes of pink flowers rising from firm rosettes of linear leaves. Once triggered the trigger (column) resets itself within five minutes - ready to 'dust' the next unweary insect visitor. This came as a surprise to me as I thought they could only be triggered once.
The second picture is a detailed shot of a single flower with its trigger in the 'cocked' position (arrowed).
I'm sure our Oz members (PaulT?) can tell us much more about this plant than I can.
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Rogan,
They're brilliant plants, aren't they? The little trigger mechanism is so cool, and you can literally watch it reset itself slowly. I could find you assorted bits from reference material, but I haven't yet managed to succeed with the trigger plants. I love them and would love to be succesful, but as yet I haven't managed it. I really need to do some more research and try again after working out the right conditions. How are you treating yours?
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I've lost mine now. I think it just got overgrown but it was fine for several years in a dampish, gritty trough. I had seed on it too. Might have a poke around in the undergrowth in case there's something still tthere. Mine was a paler pink but still very nice with reddish leaves.
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My Australian trigger plants (Stylidium graminifolium) have been keeping me amused for the past week or two. In addition to their rather interesting 'trigger' action, they make very colourful spikes of pink flowers rising from firm rosettes of linear leaves. Once triggered the trigger (column) resets itself within five minutes - ready to 'dust' the next unweary insect visitor. This came as a surprise to me as I thought they could only be triggered once.
The second picture is a detailed shot of a single flower with its trigger in the 'cocked' position (arrowed).
I'm sure our Oz members (PaulT?) can tell us much more about this plant than I can.
Rogan, your trigger plant sound like a lot of fun, fascinating, and a nice colourful plant to show off as well.
BTW: your Tropaeolum seed have been posted today, good luck, hope they do well for you.
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OK, one more exquisite, nicely scented Crinum macowanii hybrid flowering for us for the first time. Not bad don't you think?
Crinum macowanii hybrid.
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Beautiful, Bill. Just beautiful. 8)
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Iris gracilipes I think, one of the last smaller, charming irises to flower in the nursery.
Iris gracilipes.
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Fine hippeastrums Bill, grown & photographed to your usual high standards 8)
Once an attractive seedling like this is identified, how would it be bulked up for commerce?
Ashley, I am not sure if this Hippeastrum hybrid is good enough for the trade, just one of many hybrids released every year.
If it got potential, the bulbs can either be chipped or tissue cultured in large numbers in very short time.
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A couple of weeks ago I posted a pic of this super little Glad, but in bud, for possible ID. It seems it's likely to be G. carneus and I'm in love with it. It may grow taller though in the garden, just 35cms in the pot. No idea where it came from though ???
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Iris setosa hookeri (or s. nana or s. dwarf form etc). Grows to just 15 cms with me.
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Iris barbatula. The group of 3 are about to be planted out, the other (a 2007 pic) is in a raised bed, not blooming yet in shade.
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A lovely South American is Ourisia coccinea. But I find it very sensitive to lack of water, much more so than the reputedly difficult O. microphylla.
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I really like this yellow form of Primula cockburniana, normally a harsh orange. Apparently it comes true from seed though as I plan to plant them out side by side, this may not continue. The first pic is in shade with others waiting for a big planting over the next couple of days and the second in the sun.
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The seed was collected from S. lutea, a soft straw yellow and the other parent is pumilio, behind the seedling, for comparison.
Lesley, this seems to be a very good and rich flowering hybrid. You really should name it!
I wonder about your S. pumilio with so many flowers. ??? Here it is only known as very shy flowering.
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Luit, S. pumilio flowers very well for me, outside on a raised bed. Here is a pic of the original on top with the lower plant a seedling from it. I get a lot of seed and quite a lot of self-sown seedlings. The colour is a little richer than the picture suggests.
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And this little patch is made up of seedlings from my own seedling S. 'Gala Day' ('Olivana' x ocymoides) insect-pollinated with pumilio. You can see the pumilio in some of the flowers. There are perhaps half a dozen seedlings here and all are very tight little pads of foliage, lovely plants for troughs or pots.
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I was a bit annoyed that the seedlist (SRGC) just received, listed S. pulvinaris and said go to S. pumilio. They are NOT the same plant, but are quite different and distinct. I used to have pulvinaris and lost it so would like to replace it but didn't order the pumilio as I had donated some of that.
Would you like some seed of pumilio and some of what will be assorted seedlings, later in the summer?
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Would you like some seed of pumilio and some of what will be assorted seedlings, later in the summer?
Yes please! :D
But your S. pumilio is really a wonder to me Lesley, so many flowers.
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Like 'Olivana' it makes a halo of flowers, around the outside. Older plants have the flowers sprinkled over the top as well.
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"...but I haven't yet managed to succeed with the trigger plants. I love them and would love to be succesful, but as yet I haven't managed it."
I grow my Stylidiums as I would a carnivorous plant - in a gritty / peaty soil standing in a few mm of rainwater, and a little afternoon shade. Thus far they are thriving and flowering well.
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Thanks Rogan. Wouldn't have thought of treating them like that.
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Bill was making posts here that I though worthy of a move to the Trasvel and Places to Vist area, so you'll find his thread : Te Puna Quarry Park in Tauranga there.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4576.0
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Folks,
My Stylidium graminifolium flower buds are still a wee way off opening but I did notice a second spike coming on the other day.
I grow mine much like Rogan (in fact, in an outdoor tray that I used to use for Sarracenia before I got my glasshouse).
Information on the various species can be found at: http://www.triggerplants.org/ or via the YAHOO group that I run (PM me for details if you're interested).
Andrew.
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Try looking out for Stylidium armeria, the tetraploid form of S. graminifolium. It makes floral spikes so rigid that they can hardly be bent, with each spike so thickly clothed with flowers that there is no stem visible between them. Much greater presence in the garden.
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That sounds exceiting Rob. Is there a picture anyehere?
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Lesley,
Try here:
http://www.utas.edu.au/dicotkey/dicotkey/OTHERS/sStylidium_armeria.htm
Garden-grown specimens are that bit better furnished of course.
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I hadn't heard of that one before, Rob. Thanks.
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It's very nice indeed Rob and one can imagine that a well grown garden specimen could be very spectacular. Might have to sprinkle a little salt?
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Hi Lesley, very beautiful your G. carneus ::)
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A reminder of another thread, also from the Southern Hemisphere:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=post;topic=4576.0;num_replies=11
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A few NZ natives in the garden here .
Bulbinella rossii - although getting bigger each year ,(has 3 stems this season ),no where the size they reach when really happy in their natural environment of New Zealands sub-antarctic islands.
One of the grassland Celmisia sps --i presume it is a form of C.gracilenta --interestingly i remember :-\ it in previous years as having brown mottled leaves ,if that is correct why does it have plain green this season. ::)
Finally Celmisia bellidioides --hasn't flowered for a number of years so obviously has enjoyed the wet cool conditions of late.
Cheers dave.
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These are nice Dave, especially the Bulbinella rossii. I'd love to grow that but would be too hot and dry for it here. There are some advantages after all, to a bottom-of-the-South-Island climate and garden. ;D
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Of course Lesley it has its benefits . 8)
Such as being able to move these near flowering Arisaemas to a new area earlier today :o ---They were starting to become a weed in one of the Trillium beds.
They should do okay being moved so late ,as last year i transplanted a number of different A. sps in mid summer and they are flowering currently.
Cheers dave.
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Nice, Dave. 8)
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I'd probably risk it Dave. In fact, I'll have to as I want all the ciliatums together and all the consanguineums and at present they're mixed. So I'll lift them and replant separately elsewhere, as they begin to flower. I've put coloured wool round a couple that are out but I dont want to wait longer. If they're moved early in the flowering, they can still set seed whereas they don't if the flower is well on. For me anyway. All they need is a good watering on moving.