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Title: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Daniel Piacek on October 31, 2009, 03:50:35 PM

Does anybody help me? I am looking for rooots or seeds of Mediteranean Aristolochias.

thanks Daniel

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Maggi Young on October 31, 2009, 04:01:09 PM

Hello, Daniel, Welcome to the Forum.
Which species of Aristolochia are these?

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Daniel Piacek on October 31, 2009, 04:23:29 PM

hello Maggi,


p.e. pistolochia,bianorii,microstoma,clusii,lycica,krausei,pontica,stenosiphon,bottae,paecilantha..
They are all from the countries arround Mediteran see  from Spain to Turkay and Israel        daniel

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Hans J on October 31, 2009, 04:31:24 PM

Hi ,

I can only help with pics

first is a old pic from Crete
second is from this year spring in South France

Hans

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Daniel Piacek on October 31, 2009, 07:48:02 PM

hallo Hans,
first pcs is A.cretica,second A.pistolochia .Both I have not in my collection still.
I have pallida,rotunda,baetica,paucinervis,parvifolia,hirta,iberica,steupii ,scabridula,sempervirens,cilicica? and bilardiereii till now

daniel

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 31, 2009, 07:51:12 PM

Where does A. longa come from? I've just sent seed to the exchanges but will have fresh seed in the (southern) summer if you'd like it.

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Paul T on November 01, 2009, 08:02:36 AM

So these are the low non-climbing types?  I've only ever heard of them here.... up until then I'd always thought that they were all large climbers.  8)

Good luck with your search Daniel.

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Daniel Piacek on November 01, 2009, 06:39:47 PM

yes ,these european aristolochias are non climbing plants /max 50cm/ except baetica and sempervirens.
Longa is more from Asia, so it is not specie for my colection.Thanks

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 01, 2009, 08:15:11 PM

Paul, A. longa makes a low mound from a central knobby rootstock and sends out stems to about 30cms each. The flowers are upright and green, like little green meerkats. It dies back to the centre for winter. Seed if you'd like to try some?

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 01, 2009, 10:35:13 PM

I must try some more species. I have A. clematitis, which is spreading in my uncovered bulb frame. I even got a couple of seed pods this year!

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Maggi Young on November 01, 2009, 11:22:50 PM

Quote from: Anthony Darby on November 01, 2009, 10:35:13 PM

I have A. clematitis, which is spreading in my uncovered bulb frame. I even got a couple of seed pods this year!

Antohny, photos of pod and seed would be of interest, if you have them?

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 01, 2009, 11:42:03 PM

If you want to try A. longa Anthony, let me know. It's one of those "quietly attractive" plants. Actually, it's useful for bulb protection in summer. It doesn't sprout away from the centre until crocuses etc have finished, then grows over them to keep off excessive rain or whatever. It might discourage narcissus fly too, just by being there.

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: BULBISSIME on November 02, 2009, 12:23:45 AM

Daniel I'm trying to grow A. cretica since many year but really not easy to start the growth....
I also have seeds,.... waiting for germination since 2008...

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Daniel Piacek on November 02, 2009, 04:59:26 PM

Fred,do you have really A.cretica seeds?I am looking for them long time.Can you please send me some?  daniel

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: BULBISSIME on November 02, 2009, 05:05:28 PM

Daniel, I've no longer have seeds as they are in pots since 2008 but I hope to get some this year.
If so, I'll sent you some !

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Paul T on November 03, 2009, 01:10:54 AM

Lesley,

Thank you, I'd love a few seeds if you can spare them.  If it is growing outside for you then I am guessing it should survive winters here.  It is on our quarantine allowed list, as are a whole bunch of different species I have never heard of.  I like the idea of little species.... I know someone has posted pics here on the forums before, which is where I first heard about them (as I mentioned before).  Actually, if I had the space and climate I like the idea of the big species too, but I know they won't survive here.  ::)  Sometimes I can be logical about the things I try to grow.  ;D Sometimes.  ;)

These forums are just so bad for my collecting habit!!  :o

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Darren on November 03, 2009, 12:54:10 PM

I hope to see cretica again in April when I return to Crete, it is a lovely thing. There is some cultivation advice for it in the AGS encyclopedia which suggests that at least one person (the author) has grown it.

Meanwhile - Daniel, A. paecilantha was listed very recently (2008) in Jim Archibalds seed list and they may still have it. I got some about a year ago but no sign of germination yet.

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2009, 08:25:50 PM

Paul, remind me soon after Christmas.

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Daniel Piacek on November 04, 2009, 07:13:10 AM

Darren,do you have mail adress to Jim Archibald / www.sites don´t work/.If you will have some cretica seeds ,spare some for me ,please.   thanks               daniel

Title: Re: Mediterranean Aristolochias
Post by: Darren on November 04, 2009, 01:17:24 PM

I won't be collecting any plant material or seed on my holidays.