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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Sinchets on September 16, 2009, 07:58:19 PM

Title: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 16, 2009, 07:58:19 PM
Posted here as a query- this was labelled as Leucojum roseum- but looks more like L.autumnale to me. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Hans J on September 16, 2009, 10:14:46 PM
Simon :

thats 100% not a Acis rosea - it is A.autumnalis
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Rodger Whitlock on September 17, 2009, 05:14:20 AM
Posted here as a query- this was labelled as Leucojum roseum- but looks more like L.autumnale to me. Any ideas?

Definitely A. autumnalis. There is a form with no pink coloration, I understand, but most have that pink stain.

A. rosea has a pink stripe the length of the petals, and the proportions and stance of the flower is different. Also, A. autumnalis has thread-like leaves, whereas A. rosea has very narrow flattened leaves.

Now what I'd like to see are pictures the illustrate the differences between the A. autumnalis subspecties: A. a. autumnalis, A. a. oporantha, and A.a. pulchella.

Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Hans J on September 17, 2009, 06:58:29 AM
Rodger ,

I have yesterday looked what is the last information for this earlier variants ( oporanthum + pulchellum )
they are now not longer acceptet names
I grow both - and I can really agree -there are not big differences....
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 17, 2009, 09:13:00 AM
Many thanks, Rodger and Hans.  :)
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: maggiepie on September 17, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
Simon, it's beautiful, am glad you posted the pic.
About time I start a new list.
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 17, 2009, 06:58:16 PM
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 26, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
Here is Acis rosea, from Corsica :

 click the pix below.......
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 27, 2009, 06:08:49 PM
It would be lovely if you could post them again as thumbnails- they are timing out before I can see the Acis- though the Scilla is nice to see :)
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Melvyn Jope on September 27, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
Acis ionica in flower today.
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Maggi Young on September 27, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
It would be lovely if you could post them again as thumbnails- they are timing out before I can see the Acis- though the Scilla is nice to see :)

 Simon,
 I have added Fred's pix  to his post in the "usual" fashion.... can you view those  more easily or do his images remaining still cause a problem? ?
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: gote on September 27, 2009, 08:29:54 PM
Bulbissime,
What are the blue ones??
Cheers
Göte
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 27, 2009, 09:40:13 PM
What do you mean by Thumbnails : smaller images ??

Gote, blue ones are Scilla autumnalis
exists in white  ;D

Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 27, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
Thanks, Maggi- the thumbnails are perfect- and lovely pics too Fred  ;)
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Maggi Young on September 27, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Fred, when photos are uploaded via the attachment browser at the foor of the text box, rather than by the method you use, the pix are shown as mini images at the end of postsrather than the full size and can then be clicked on to enlarge.  Also, for those who prefer to include their photos in the text of a post, as you do, the same method can be used but the code "attachthumb= 1/2/3" etc is used (enclosed in square brackets)to place the images in the text: these too can be enlarged, of course.........se Ferides p and Lesley Cox's post, for examples of this.
It seems that for those folks on dial -up or slow or intermittent internet connections, these smaller pix, the "thumbnails" as they are called, work better for the viewers.
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 27, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
Maggy, I've never used this code; what should I put after [attachthumb=] ??  my image link ?
thank's,
Fred
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Maggi Young on September 27, 2009, 11:06:01 PM

 To make a post with photos, uploaded from your computer files rather than from an outside picture hosting site..... once you have the text box there, write your text then click on "Additional Options"  at the bottom left of the page..... a new ea will appear with "ATTACH".............browse (more attachments)
To load the first picture, click on "Browse" and select the photo file from where you have it saved on your computer, then repeat for as many pictures as you have, up to ten each post.
 
You can add the photos up to ten at a time ... either at the end of your post, or by entering this code where you want the photo in your text   (attachthumb=1)... name of the plant....
 (attachthumb=2) ...... comment or name..........and so on. Obviously I have had to use () brackets in the previous example because otherwise the system will give the fault message if I use the Square brackets and do not upload any photos!
Hope this helps, Fred.  8)
 
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 27, 2009, 11:32:02 PM
test  ;D
it's working  ;D :P

Acis rosea

Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Maggi Young on September 28, 2009, 12:09:25 AM
Thanks, Fred! All your photos are very beautiful; it is just that this method makes life easier for some readers and it is good to make the Forum as accessible as possible !  :D
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 28, 2009, 06:00:47 AM
I understand Maggy,
and it's easier for me too to not have to upload them before through another website  ;D
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Maggi Young on September 28, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
I understand Maggy,
and it's easier for me too to not have to upload them before through another website  ;D

 Excellent, Fred... we have the proverbial win-win situation  then, eh?!!  8) ;) :D :)
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 28, 2009, 11:07:19 AM
Thank you both for working through that- it is less draining on our bandwidth and we don't miss out on any great pics  :)
Do you have pics of white Scilla autumnalis, Fred. We were looking through some large populations yesterday, but only found variations from pale blue to reddish purple.
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Oron Peri on September 28, 2009, 11:45:14 AM
Fred,
Nice photo of the two species blooming together side by side.
Can you tell at what altitudes you have seen Acis rosea growing?
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Hans J on September 28, 2009, 12:21:48 PM
Oron ,

I have also found by a earlier trip to Corsica this Acis rosea ( also growing with Scilla ) - I found four populations :

two near the sea
two inside of the island on a altitude 130m + 400m

please look for the stones on Fred's pic - it is granit !
the PH value is under 6,0

The most other Acis grows on calcy soil ....

I hope this helps you a bit
Hans
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Oron Peri on September 28, 2009, 12:46:04 PM
Hans,
Thank you very much for the detailed information, and the PH.

....Another one for my 'wish list'.. :-\
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Hans J on September 28, 2009, 12:59:47 PM
Oron - no problem !

Also no problem with your wish .....
Please write me a PM ;D
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 28, 2009, 04:45:04 PM
Sinchets, white form is on page 1  ;D
Oron, I've found this Acis rosea between 1.5 and 10 m above sea level !!
In granit, yes !!
and they also should receive lot of salt water !
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Oron Peri on September 28, 2009, 04:52:23 PM
Oron, I've found this Acis rosea between 1.5 and 10 m above sea level !!
In granit, yes !!
and they also should receive lot of salt water !


Thanks Fred

So its a tough one behind this appearance...

I have allready the salt, now i only need the bulbs ;)
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 28, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
Thanks, Fred.
Hans, your comments made me think- we have been travelling around and so far have only seen Scilla autumnalis on non-calcareous rocks. Is this a feature throughout its range does anyone know?
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Hans J on September 28, 2009, 09:24:37 PM
Simon ,

I have seen often on my travels Scilla autumnalis ....I think this plants are indifferent ( they grows on calcy or not calcy ground )
P.e. I saw a lot on Corsica ( granit ) ,Sardinia ( calcy ) , Crete ( calcy ), Cyprus ( calcy )....
Title: Re: Acis query
Post by: Sinchets on September 29, 2009, 01:17:41 PM
Thanks, Hans. We haven't seen it on lime here yet, but maybe those soils are still too dry.
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