Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum

Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Alan_b on April 05, 2009, 09:50:47 AM

Title: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Alan_b on April 05, 2009, 09:50:47 AM
In a nearby snowdrop wood there are just an odd one or two nivalis still in flower.  Have these been delayed by some random set of adverse circumstances or would they come back late every year?  The photograph was taken on 1st April but it is genuine.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: loes on April 05, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
in my garden the last to flower was Trym.just over yesterday.it was planted this summer so it could normally be earlier in flower.
galanthus 'Flore Pleno'has been over for weeks now but I have several first year flowering shoots in flower now.never noticed that before,that the new shoots flower so much later than the mature bulbs.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: KentGardener on April 06, 2009, 05:15:35 AM
The very last in my garden is 'danube star' - just going over now.  :'(

John
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 07, 2009, 01:46:18 PM
Galanthus platyphyllus in the garden today. Has anyone flowered the one sold by Paul Christian?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on April 07, 2009, 01:48:46 PM
Yes, Anthony... and no, it was not!
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 07, 2009, 02:02:04 PM
That might explain why it is no longer on his list?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on April 07, 2009, 02:08:51 PM
That might explain why it is no longer on his list?
It might.  :-X
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Alan_b on April 07, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
Wandering around the Cambridge College Backs the other day I came across some alliums (I presume) that were quite reminiscent of snowdrops, with single white pendulous flowers.  I would quite like to get some.  Can anybody put a name to my description?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 07, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Perhaps the three-cornered allium (Allium triquetrum)? http://www.floralimages.co.uk/palliutriqu.htm
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Alan_b on April 07, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
Perhaps the three-cornered allium (Allium triquetrum/i])? http://www.floralimages.co.uk/palliutriqu.htm

I don't think so.  The one I admired only had one flower per scape. 
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on April 07, 2009, 10:45:35 PM
Alan, we saw the very same allium in Edinburgh last weekend.......only one flower, quite small, on a stem about 15 to 20cms high.........we couldn't think what it was called either!!  :-[ :P   Some one will surely help us out......
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 09, 2009, 12:40:09 AM
It's not over just yet. Here is a Galanthus nivalis fix from Nova Scotia.  I visited a friend's garden today; I think it is time for her to do some dividing and replanting. She's getting quite keen on snowdrops (she says it was a string of articles in The Telegraph) and actually discovered a green tipped Poculiformis elwesii (based on her notes and line drawinga) in Frampton Port in Dorchester, England this past February.  If anyone next Spring is nearby and would like to check it out to see if it is worth collecting please drop me a PM.

Wave one.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 09, 2009, 12:43:22 AM
Wave two and one different clump of doubles.

The planting is 30 years old from 1 dozen each of single and double nivalis and they are popping up everywhere, most intensely at the base of line of struggling shrubs in low damp ground.

Today (Friday that is, with the time difference) I will be visiting the big snowdrop drifts near Digby, NS.  Hopefully some pictures if the sun co-operates.

Quite amazing how many bulbs are sitting on the soil's surface and still are able to survive the winter to flower.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: KentGardener on April 09, 2009, 07:39:33 AM
Thanks John - the cold Turkey is subsiding.....

Can't wait for my next fix.

John
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Alan_b on April 09, 2009, 07:43:20 AM
....and actually discovered a green tipped Poculiformis elwesii (based on her notes and line drawinga) in Frampton Port in Dorchester, England this past February.  If anyone next Spring is nearby and would like to check it out to see if it is worth collecting please drop me a PM.....

johnw

I hate to pour cold water on this idea but something that looks like a snowdrop but has six green-tipped petals, all of a similar length, would be an apt description of a snowflake (leucojum).  
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 09, 2009, 12:13:55 PM
I hate to pour cold water on this idea but something that looks like a snowdrop but has six green-tipped petals, all of a similar length, would be an apt description of a snowflake (leucojum).  

Alan - It never occurred to me that she might mistake a Leucojum for a snowdrop. I think you are right.  I will ask her about the leaves but she may not be savvy enough to have noticed them.

She said she thought she saw a close match in the gardening section of the Telegraph the last two weeks of February.  Just spoke to her and she now says it had two flowers ... Oh, well. False alarm.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: maggiepie on April 09, 2009, 01:10:22 PM

Today (Friday that is, with the time difference) I will be visiting the big snowdrop drifts near Digby, NS.  Hopefully some pictures if the sun co-operates.

johnw
John, looks like you have picked a good day weatherwise for your visit to the snowdrop drifts, can't wait to see the pics.
Your friend's clumps are beautiful  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2009, 10:56:52 PM
Here we go from Digby, Nova Scotia - the scallop (huge ones and the best anywhere) capital of North America. (A shot of the Digby Gut in the distance with the Bay of Fundy beyond. - wrong photo posted). Shot looking north across the harbour.

And the snowdrops cascading down the slope towards the harbour.

Hope this does it for you John!

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 10, 2009, 11:02:08 PM
And a few more.  Remarkable what little variation there is.

One lady in Digby gave me 3 shopping bags full of snowdrops - there must have been 1,000.  Now to spread the gospel.

A glorious day here and 15c in the south where I got quite a sunburn planting snowdrop singles.

Are you sated yet John?

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Alan_b on April 11, 2009, 08:10:46 AM
Is it my imagination or do the Digby snowdrops have an elongated ovary by comparison with a typical nivalis?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 11, 2009, 09:41:54 AM
Oh John aren't they great in drifts, lovely shots.  I agree with Alan good long receptacles.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 11, 2009, 01:22:02 PM
Is it my imagination or do the Digby snowdrops have an elongated ovary by comparison with a typical nivalis?

Alan:

I did notice that and wonder if the pods hold more seed.

Should we name one?

You or Brian can pick the name. ;D

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2009, 01:29:04 PM
Quote
You or Brian can pick the name.
Just as well no one asks me these things.... I'd suggest 'Digby Droopy Drawers'  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 11, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
Quote
You or Brian can pick the name.
Just as well no one asks me these things.... I'd suggest 'Digby Droopy Drawers'  ;D

Sounds fine and at least it wasn't Long Johns.

I was expecting something much ruder.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 11, 2009, 01:46:51 PM
Quote
You or Brian can pick the name.
Just as well no one asks me these things.... I'd suggest 'Digby Droopy Drawers'  ;D

Nice one Maggi ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 12, 2009, 08:10:13 AM
Some G. woronowii forms in the wild, April, 2009. Click link to enlarge.

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_ceb22506.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_03d453e5.jpg

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_34860fd8.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_2b9f061c.jpg

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_877d5c02.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_c33788ce.jpg

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_97bf68af.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_b61a5b00.jpg

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_8258e122.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_39c41561.jpg

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_01f7cfc7.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_a617a370.jpg

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/m_3ce4638d.jpg)
http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_2c2bf539.jpg
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 12, 2009, 08:12:33 AM
(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_f30118f7.jpg)

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_85148188.jpg)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 12, 2009, 10:07:24 AM
Again wonderful pics Olga, I love that _c33788ce.jpg and the second from the left in the line of five.  Great to see that there is so much natural variation.  Thanks for sharing with us 8)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 12, 2009, 04:35:17 PM
Brian
Thanks again.  :)
We travelled to find different Galanthus forms. I wonder it is SO easy. I like green-marked too.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: KentGardener on April 12, 2009, 09:32:40 PM
Again wonderful pics Olga, I love that _c33788ce.jpg and the second from the left in the line of five.  Great to see that there is so much natural variation.  Thanks for sharing with us 8)

Great minds think alike (or is that fools seldom differ?  ;))

I love the same ones as Brian.   ;D

Thank you for showing them to us Olga.  8)

Regards

John
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: KentGardener on April 12, 2009, 09:34:29 PM
Are you sated yet John?

johnw

John - you and Olga have made my Easter weekend special.   :D

Thank you both.

John
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 12, 2009, 10:08:31 PM
Quote
Great minds think alike (or is that fools seldom differ?  )

Now that is a good question John ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 18, 2009, 01:42:38 PM
Thank you John!

My first garden Galanthus this year:

Galanthus caucasicus
(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/92164489/x_3215a832.jpg)

Galanthus cabardensis
(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/92164489/x_88487c54.jpg)

Unknown Galanthus at friend's garden
(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/92164489/x_fd0872fb.jpg)

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/92164489/x_670d74df.jpg)
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Paul T on April 19, 2009, 12:08:57 AM
Beautiful, Olga.  Do you grow any of the autumn species as well?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 21, 2009, 07:49:06 AM
Thanks Paul!

I'd like to grow autumn species but there's nowhere can get them.  :-\

What species can be Galanthus at my 2 last images? G. alpinus?
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Paul T on April 21, 2009, 11:50:22 AM
Olga,

I'll try hand pollinating my reginae-olgae if you'd like.  Usually they set seed without help, but hand pollinating produces a bigger seed set.  I will not be able to guarantee that they aren't hybrids with G. peshmenii though (and my peshmenii has never set seed up until now), as that is in flower at the moment as well.  If the plants in the garden set seed I'll at least know that they are pure as they are the other side of the house from the peshmenii.  I could always send you a couple of bulbs, but then you'd have to turn them around from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere..... maybe someone else on the forums in the northern hemisphere can spare you a bulb at some point?  Anyway, let me know whether you want seed and I'll see what I can do if it successfully sets.
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: johnw on April 22, 2009, 04:56:13 PM
The potatoes you are eating may be part Galanthus nivalis!

http://agron.scijournals.org/cgi/content/full/92/4/797 (http://agron.scijournals.org/cgi/content/full/92/4/797)

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: Alan_b on April 30, 2009, 07:25:53 AM
From the Scilla 2009 thread

Mine came from Holden Clough nursery (n.b. they still sell Galanthus woronowii as G. platyphyllus).

And supplied to RHS Wisley this year???  I bought something there that was supposed to be G. platyphyllus but was 'wrong' on several counts and I eventually returned it for a refund.  Advice from this forum (somewhere in the January thread) helped me reach the conclusion that what I had been sold was not the genuine article. 
Title: Re: Galanthus April 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
I never noticed this series of photos until now - great selection. Thanks
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal