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Specific Families and Genera => Primula => Topic started by: David Nicholson on March 05, 2007, 01:15:14 PM
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Here's the first of my Primula x pubescens to flower this year-Primula x pubescens "Peggy". It is an offset taken from a larger plant but the larger plant is still in bud.
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Beautiful!
I notice the 'standing' leaves.
Corinne
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Here are 2 pubescens seedlings (hirsuta x auricula) from plants which grow at a mountain near Innsbruck, Austria.
Hans
from Austria
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Hans, lovely plants. You can "see" Primula auricula in the eye of the second one.
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A really great plant - Primula 'Arduaine', been in flower for about 2 weeks now, but approaching its best. I always keep this in pots to enjoy the farina as well as the flowers.
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Just lovely Dave.
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It is a wonderful specimen Dave !!! Beautiful plant !
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A nice plant Dave.
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Dave,
Simply beautiful plant!
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"primula vulgaris" - you may think it is nothing special? :( Considering how rare this species became in the wild here -I thought it is worth posting it.
It is spreading well - this year 1st. hybrids appeared.
Question to the experts: Does "vulgaris" naturally cross with "elatior"?
I've searched the web but found only pictures of "vulgaris x veris" but are not matching with mine in the garden.
Blossom of the cross is as early as "vulgaris" (January) but stem and leaves are like "elatior". (The picture is taken last year March, this year slugs attacked it and it looks not so nice).
I grow "vulgaris", "elatior" and "veris".
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I don't know about that cross Armin, but it does cross with a number of other primulas including the polyanthus types and so called "acaulis" strains. So don't be surprised at anything.
A shame that it has become rare in the wild with you. I'll never forget the first (only) time I saw it growing in its natural home, on a rain-soaked shady bank on the island of Mull, west of Scotland. Big clumps with masses of lemon flowers and truly gorgeous. Unfortunately I was in a bus (beg its pardon, coach) at the time and couldn't stop to photograph. The memory lingers on however.
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Lesley, thanks. I also believe pollination has happened by bees & bumble bees carrying over pollen from "acaulis" strains often grown in other gardens causing the color variations.
In the area I live the primula populations (vulgaris,veris & elatior) disappeared from many meadows simply due to too early mow and plenty use of vertilizers by farmers.
Once disappeared they never come back... :'(
It's a dilemma.
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Hi Armin
Primula vulgaris (commonly called the Primrose here in the UK) and P elatior (the Oxlip) are rarely found together in the wild here in the UK, mainly because they generally occupy different habitats, though they do flower at the same time. The Oxlip is confined to woodlands on "chalky boulder clay" (glacial till) in eastern England. The primrose is much more widespread and as Lesley says is a real delight where in grows in abundance particularly in western and northern Britain. On many occasions I have seen it in profusion along stream and roadside banks in the Lake District; a wonderful sight.
However, woodland management techniques in eastern England allow the two species to come together and hybridise as Primula x digenea.
John Richard's book on Primulas has some further details.
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Hello Dave,
thank you for the detailed explanation and hybrid name.
I don't know yet the author & book, does anybody have the ISBN available?
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Primula by John Richards
Published by Batsford
ISBN: 0-7134-8728-3
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Davis, great, thank you.
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Here is my first Auricula to flower in 2007-a yellow Self (a very light lemony yellow). This is the first year it has flowered and I grew it from open pollinated seed sown in September 2005. It may be because the flowers are immature at this stage but there seems to be a problem with the anthers so I shall have to see whether it improves-if it doesn't it's a candidate for the compost bin. This year I mean to be disciplined and only keep plants that are good enough to show-having said that they are "my babies" and I hate chucking them out :'(
Maybe it is because of the very mild winter, without any appreciable amount of frost, but I seem to have quite a few plants that look as though they will have very short stems this year. ???
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Do you know, I never looked that closely at the anthers of an auricula before, I've always been too busy looking at the pattern and sniffing for a scent! Now you make me wonder if that is a problem ? They do look a bit odd. Charming flower, though, soft colour and so much nicer as being 'one you made earlier'
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I'm having the same problem that David was having earlier, a little red cross and right clicking to "show picture" doesn't work, so for now, I can't see his auriculas. Will look for your solution Maggi.
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Same here - only little red cross instead of the photos from Davids Auricula ?? :'(
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I used to have a big collection of Auriculas until root aphids got them. I must get some more from Susan Tindall. Maybe tomorrow.
Here are a couple flowering now for me. One cant be classed mine until it flowers again next year. I bought it at the bulb show. P. vulgaris 'Dawn Ansel' and one of my Cowslips that are now seeding in the garden
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Mark, you must have a nice micro-climate in your garden my Cowslips are about a couple of weeks behind yours. I still don't like the Oak Leafs!
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People mention me having a micro climate quite often. The garden is wide open to everything Mother Nature throws
This is a photo of a named P. vularis but the label is now under the plant. Below is a beauty, to me anyway, that I got in a garden centre
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Mark, ugh!! (Each to their own, I say) :D
However, the vulgaris clone is super.
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I'm with you Dave, I prefer Primulas to be simple and understated, but as you say each to his own.
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Mark I'm definitely with the Daves on this one.
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Primulas and Primulas (allionii with interesting dark colours and others)
Hans
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Part 2 (marginata dark blue,..., palinuri)
Hans
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The more orange flowers of Primula palinuri somehow make a better counterpoint to the calyces than the yellow forms. The echoing shapes of flower and calyx is just delightful. Lovely collection of flowers, Hans, thank you.
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Lovely Primula Hans. I particularly like the white in the second series.
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David, the white Primula is a seedling of hirsuta (maybe x allionii) grown in my garden. The other white is a seedling, too.
Hans
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I like them too but would like to see the names either written or instead of the camera image number
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Mark, I will try it.
Most of my Primulas are nameless because they are grown from myself wild collected seed (allionii) or hybrids wild grown in my garden and so I do not always know their parents. All these plants are not selected and labelled Primulas which you can buy at any nursery.
Hans
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A selection of pictures of some rather different primulas. Firstly, from the alpinehouse:
Primula "Clarence Elliott" and P "Hyacinthia"
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And from my shady cold frame a couple of Asiatics:
Primula nana alba
Primula jesoana (true species, ex Crug recent new introduction) newly emerging, making a pretence of being a Podophyllum. Lets hope flowers will follow soon.
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And lastly, from the garden
Primula vulgaris ssp sibthorpii
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Lovely Primulas Diane. I was going to post a picture of my Clarence Elliott but, having seen yours I will wait a couple of days!!
Here is my Broadwell Violet.
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Lovely pics and thanks. The P. nana alba is especially interesting. Very rare I imagine. And what a nice thing is P. podophyllioides. :)
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Some lovely Primulas at the AGS Kent show on 17th March.
Here are a few.
Primula Hallowen Blue ... THE LABEL SAID HALLOWEN not HALLOWEEN despite the discussion that follows!
Primula Clarence Elliott - Fantastic specimen
And an interesting pan of seedling primulas - the label explains all
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I especially like `Halloween Blue.' It looks like one of those very tight growing Juliana types, with P. juliae in the mix somewhere.
The seedlings are very interesting. I've not had any seed on my `White Linda Pope' but my nursery chum down the road did, and raised a super white from it, crossed with an auricula type with very mealy foliage which is evident in some of these above. There's a lot of potential there for some good plants to come.
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I especially like `Halloween Blue.' It looks like one of those very tight growing Juliana types, with P. juliae in the mix somewhere.
The seedlings are very interesting. I've not had any seed on my `White Linda Pope' but my nursery chum down the road did, and raised a super white from it, crossed with an auricula type with very mealy foliage which is evident in some of these above. There's a lot of potential there for some good plants to come.
Lesley (at my peril) I have to disagree with you on "Halloween Blue", I don't like the flower at all it seems to me to move away from my ideal shape and nature of a Primula flower and might as well be a daisy :o
I'm also waiting for a batch of open pollinated seed from White Linda Pope to germinate. If I have seedlings as good as some of those TonyG pictured I shall be very pleased.
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And lastly, from the garden
Primula vulgaris ssp sibthorpii
Diane,
like your P.vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii. Nice pale pink colour.
Was it raised from seed or can you recommend a specialist nursery?
brgds
Armin
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Lesley (at my peril) I have to disagree with you on "Halloween Blue", I don't like the flower at all it seems to me to move away from my ideal shape and nature of a Primula flower and might as well be a daisy. David N.
Really, David? Looks like pretty much typical primrose flower shape to me !
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Lesley (at my peril) I have to disagree with you on "Halloween Blue", I don't like the flower at all it seems to me to move away from my ideal shape and nature of a Primula flower and might as well be a daisy. David N.
Really, David? Looks like pretty much typical primrose flower shape to me !
Maggi, too much space between the individual petals-or have I been reading too much detail about little white flowers with green spots!! ;D
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David, you need rest, lie down and have a stiff gin and tonic, though, if I'm having one with you, I prefer G + lemonade!
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David, you need rest, lie down and have a stiff gin and tonic, though, if I'm having one with you, I prefer G + lemonade!
Right, I'll mix it in a bucket and we'll have a drink or three.
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Right, I'll mix it in a bucket and we'll have a drink or three
Sounds good to me. I have been finding myself drawn more and more to the double hepaticas and hellebores and I think this forum is to blame :-\
Haven't got so far as liking Mark's frilly knicker primula yet, so all is not lost but between us we are needing some time to regain our floral equilibrium ....have you any olives or will I bring my own?
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Who said Olive could come as well??
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Diane,
like your P.vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii. Nice pale pink colour.
Was it raised from seed or can you recommend a specialist nursery?
brgds
Armin
I bought it, but I have had it in the garden so long, I can't remember where it came from. They are fairly easy to come by in UK nurseries so would think you could source it quite easily. Do you have the equivalent of The Plant Finder? This is an excellent reference book for UK gardeners, it shows which nurseries stock which plants.
Lovely pics and thanks. The P. nana alba is especially interesting. Very rare I imagine. And what a nice thing is P. podophyllioides. :)
The P nana alba came from Keith Lever and is especially beautiful. We shall wait on the so-called P podophyllioides (aka P jesoensis!) to see whether it flowers. I have never seen a primula produce leaves like this. This IS a very rare species in cultivation. Most P jesoensis here in the UK in recent years invariably turn out to be something else. This one is newly introduced by Bleddyn and Sue Wynn-Jones of Crug. Good article about them, on their plant hunting trip in last month's RHS magasine.
David, you need rest, lie down and have a stiff gin and tonic, though, if I'm having one with you, I prefer G + lemonade!
Maggi, you have gone down in my estimation. :o
Sniff the tonic, get the juniper aroma. How can you drown that with lemonade?? The only partner is tonic :P
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Prefer the Queen Mum's formula myself;
Pour the gin
remove cap from tonic and wave bottle over gin
replace cap on tonic
drink gin!
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David, as you know, the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, was Patron of the SRGC... seems the lady had more in common with us than merely a love of flowers!
Diane: Sorry I have disappointed you, but, having a well-stocked kitchen, there are always dried juniper berries to add to the gin (lightly bashes, that's the berries, not the cook)... so much nicer a flavour with my lemonade for a long drink ::)
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Hi Diane
thank you for bringing my attention to the leaves on P. "podophyllioides" actually P. jesoensis- very unusual indeed.
regards
John
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Juniper bashed, cook smashed? I agree with David and Her Late Majesty here. Tonic but not too much of it. I hate sweet drinks (even Sauternes!) and don't like lemonade at all. I do like a good long squeeze of lemon juice added to my G and T as well as a slice of course. (That's for your future reference David.)
Re `Halloween' though, I like the rather perky look of its flowers. P. allionii forms (and some auriculas too, forgive me David) tend to look smug in their full, roundness.
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I should apologise to Diane for the reference to P. podophyllioides. While it may amuse slightly, it's the kind of stupid thing that can result in a genuine mistake on the part of others and even get into a seed list or somewhere under that name. So don't quote me John.
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Lesley, I've "interfered" with John's post to make the joke clear!
tend to look smug in their full, roundness.
While Lesley was referring to some flowers, I am sensitive on such matters so I just want to clarify that while undoubtedly full and round, I make strenuous attempts not to appear smug... I merely have a contented countenance :P
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Now I'm confused. What is the joke? What is the actual name of the plant with the interesting leaves?
thanks
John (novice)
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Sorry John, this is how it goes:
Diane shows great Primula, with leaves that make it look like a podophyllum. Primula is actually Primula jesoensis Lesley calls said primula "podophlylloides" as a joke.... you pick up on cod name.... I edit you post to show that it IS a joke name.... are you with me so far, or have you already left for the pub?
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Now I'm confused. What is the joke? What is the actual name of the plant with the interesting leaves?
thanks
John (novice)
It's Primula jesoensis. I'm sorry I started this confusion, by saying it looked like a podophyllum emerging, umbrella-like with the middle of its leaves first. Lesley perpetuated (and improved) the joke by calling it Primula podophyllioides (= like a podophyllum). I appreciated the joke, Lesley, but agree that confusion can be caused very easily.
A (science teacher) colleague was once covering a French lesson for an an absent colleague and was asked by a pupil "what is French for clock?" and he replied "le tic-toc". Later in the year, the French teacher was puzzled as to why "le tic-toc" was appearing in pupils' essays :)
Sorry John, this is how it goes:
have you already left for the pub?
gone to the pub, I hope for a Gin and Tonic with ice and a slice, of course ;D
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The moral is, John, don't mess with the Forum's women! we have convoluted minds with which your male logic can't cope.
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woohoo - I got it (eventually...).
I went to bed - wish it had been the pub ;) (but it would have been for lager not gin and tonic)
I like the leaves on that Primula jesoensis. Do they flatten out as the leaf grows or do they always have that shape?
cheers
John
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I like the leaves on that Primula jesoensis. Do they flatten out as the leaf grows or do they always have that shape?
I would guess they flatten, but - I've never seen the real species before. I'll keep you informed of its progress.
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Two primulas flowering in our gaden today.
The first a nice compact form of Primula marginata called 'Napoleon'.
The second Primula denticulata, that common plant but it is a real beauty if you select a nice form.
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Referring back to the discussion about flower shapes generated by Tony G's pic of Primula 'Hallowen (Halloween?)Blue', reply 38 on page three: I draw attention to Diane Clements pic of Primula nana alba, earlier on the page, reply 34 and add to the mix, this photo pinched from the Blackpool Show Report, of Primula bracteata
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All showing the more open petal form...
just for interest!
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It's Primula jesoensis.
If I might be so bold, what is the relation between Primula Jesoensis and Primula Jesoana? and if I obtain any old packet of jesoana seeds will I end up with a nice primula like the one pictured:
http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/jesoana.html
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"It's Primula jesoensis."
Oh, says David P. then"
If I might be so bold, what is the relation between Primula Jesoensis and Primula Jesoana? and if I obtain any old packet of jesoana seeds will I end up with a nice primula like the one pictured:
http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/jesoana.html
Oh dear David, we are guilty of some sloppy naming here! Diane's lovely leaved plant is meant to be Primula jesoana, the other is an invalid name as far as I can gather.
As to your obtaining seeds of this beauty if you obtain a packet of primula seeds purporting to be P. jesoana, frankly I expect that the likiliehood is that you will get plants of P. cortusoides or P. polyneura since these two have often been mistaken for jesoana. Only a handful of gardens have the "real deal" in their collections or seedlists but there are some new collections coming in, as evidenced by the source of Diane's seed.
Lovley photos on Pam's site, by the way.
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Jan, it is time to take cuttings!
Hans
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If I might be so bold, what is the relation between Primula Jesoensis and Primula Jesoana? and if I obtain any old packet of jesoana seeds will I end up with a nice primula like the one pictured:
Sorry for silly typo. :'(
Primula jesoana is correct, as Maggi confirms. It's a matter of gender agreement. jesoenis is the species name for a Daphne, a Picea and a Viola and probably others, although sometimes spelled with a "z" as in jezoensis or a "y" as in yesoensis. I believe it means from Hokkaido in Japan.
Also, I'm with Maggie on growing from seed. Sadly, you have little chance of getting the right thing this way. Crug nursery is the best source of the real plant at the moment, unless anyone knows any other.
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Here's a picture of my second Auricula to flower in 2007. A very dark Self grown from seed sown in 2005 and flowering for the first time. It seems to have nice form and will give me a couple of offsets come re-potting time.
It is however suffering from the same problem as some of my other Auriculas this year in that it has a very short stem. Although I have only been growing Auriculas for four years this is the first time I have had this problem. Apart from my changing over from growing in clay pots to plastic, and a consequential change to my normal potting mix, my cultivation methods are the same. Maybe it is as a result of the very mild winter with no appreciable amount of frost? Does anyone have any views on the problem please?
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Jan, it is time to take cuttings!
Hans, you are quite right! I will tell him this!
it has a very short stem
David, often auricula growers complain of stems that are too long and cannot support the flower head- you have the opposite , eh? I don't know what could remedy the situation, though there are other auricula men around this forum who might be able to help.... Bob Mackie, for instance, are you reading this, Bob?
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Such a beautiful deep colour, David!
I confess that I have hankered after auriculas for years, originally and frivolously attracted by the photograph of the "Chloë" auricula in the RHS Encyclopaedia of Plants and Flowers. The "Chloë" doesn't seem to be available any more but there is a "Green Parrot", and as my name means "green shoot" and my surname is Parrott, it seems quite appropriate!
All the Primula on this page are quite wonderful. Congratulations to all growers!
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I sometimes find that auriculas are very short right at the beginning of their bloom season but not only do the stems lengthen as the days go by but also, the later stems are longer from their beginning.
It can happen with many primulas, as, for instance Ian's P. denticulata above. I bet they don't stay as low as that for very long.
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Ian's P. denticulata above. I bet they don't stay as low as that for very long.
No, indeed, they extend up to at least 40cms as they develop.
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Such a beautiful deep colour, David!
I confess that I have hankered after auriculas for years, originally and frivolously attracted by the photograph of the "Chloë" auricula in the RHS Encyclopaedia of Plants and Flowers. The "Chloë" doesn't seem to be available any more but there is a "Green Parrot", and as my name means "green shoot" and my surname is Parrott, it seems quite appropriate!
All the Primula on this page are quite wonderful. Congratulations to all growers!
Hi Chloe, your namsake Auricula is still about but getting it is like pulling hen's teeth! If I ever see it available I will get one for you-until then here is a picture instead.
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I sometimes find that auriculas are very short right at the beginning of their bloom season but not only do the stems lengthen as the days go by but also, the later stems are longer from their beginning.
It can happen with many primulas, as, for instance Ian's P. denticulata above. I bet they don't stay as low as that for very long.
There's still hope then?
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A few days ago I posted a pictue of a primula called P Hallowen Blue. Everyone seems to have picked up the name as Halloween Blue but I took a pic of the label and it says Hallowen. Googling the name does not help .... with either spelling ... so it may not be a recognised cultivar.
There you are Maggi (who asked for clarification)you had me wondering but my habit of snapping the names as well as the plants (too lazy to use a notebook ;)) ensures a straight answer!
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Dear Chloe,
Perhaps the diminutive of "Parrott" would yield an auricula quicker! Primula 'Parakeet' is relatively easy to come by and one of my favorites. Although I don't always succeed in overwintering them, auriculas are a sure-fire early season purchase.
Carlo
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Thanks for the notes on Primula Hallowen, Tony. I think it is a place name.
There's still hope then?
David, as I have heard it said: Where there is chlorophyll there is hope!
I think a forumist has/had it as a strap line.
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Tony/Maggi, that was MY fault, lazy reading in the first instance. So apologies to everyone. Boy, is it EASY to get the wrong name into the wider arena! I'll be more careful in future and will also refrain from giving plants with a perfectly legitimate name, other names, even as a joke.
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Hi Chloe, your namsake Auricula is still about but getting it is like pulling hen's teeth! If I ever see it available I will get one for you-until then here is a picture instead.
Thank you, David! Wonderful picture! Certainly worthy of inducing an interest in auriculas!
Perhaps the diminutive of "Parrott" would yield an auricula quicker! Primula 'Parakeet' is relatively easy to come by and one of my favorites. Although I don't always succeed in overwintering them, auriculas are a sure-fire early season purchase.
Carlo, Parakeet looks lovely but seems to be North American bred, not necessarily available over here.
I look forward to seeing some Primula at the Midland show!
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Primula jesoana is correct, as Maggi confirms.
Thank you both for the interesting replies about Jesoana.
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The season has started
-Primula auricula (wild collected near my house) with very large flowers (2 EUR)
-Primula auricula seedling (extraordinary colour)
-Androsace villosa
-Primula villosa seedling
-Primula vulgaris seedling
-Primula elatior seedling
Hans
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Here's a nursery that has a good selelction, including Green Parrot and Maggie!
http://www.popsplants.co.uk/index.php
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Maggi, I have used Pops Plants 3 times in the last 3 years they are very good.
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Regarding the Primula 'Hallowen Blue' - I bought one just like it at Loughborough Show as 'Hall Barn Blue', and this name is in the PLant Finder. It looks very nice planted with small daffodils.
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Mind you, nearly everything looks nice planted with small daffodils....
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Thanks, Derek, good to have a comment from someone who has used the service.
I've always had a soft spot for auriculas. For a start they have such a nice scent and secondly, there used to be an excellent Aberdeenshire grower who put on stunning displays of auriculas at the Aberdeen SRGC Shows who enthused me with this passion for his collection.
This was the late John Aitken, who not only grew auriculas to perfection, he was a great devotee of Gentians, too and was the keeper of the "Great Wall of Dyce" an super long, narrow raised bed at his home at Parkhill, near Dyce, Aberdeen. The story of the Great Wall and its wonderful plants is in a back issue of the Journal. Will check which one, later.
One of John's sons, David ( presently recovering from a broken ankle; hope it's getting better, Dave?)) now has the garden and wall to tend and he too is an SRGC member.
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but I took a pic of the label and it says Hallowen....... says Martin
Regarding the Primula 'Hallowen Blue' - I bought one just like it at Loughborough Show as 'Hall Barn Blue', and this name is in the PLant Finder.......... says Anne
At Dunblane yesterday there was a Primula labeled "Crowleys'...... I think they meant to write 'Crowsley's var.' See how easy it is to cause confusion? Someone may have mis-heard a name, or could not easily make outthe writing on a label.... all sorts of things can conspire to cause chaos for the unwary gardener... and that's before those taxonomists get near the problem!! ;D
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Mind you, nearly everything looks nice planted with small daffodils....
Yes, that's true.... especially erythroniums and little rhododendrons!!
We saw a garden last night when walking Lily that had mixed clumps of daffs in the lawn... some clumps of larger types, some of small ones and some of mixed, large and small.... you'd think it might look odd, but it was very attractive and not the usual thing you see.
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Hans,
very beautiful wild Auricula.
Unfortunately, my one disappeared in my garden. Guess was not pleased with my loamy soil and too many slug attacks... :'(
rgds
Armin
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today I found "Primula elatior" starting to flower in my garden
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Armin, my last photo is a red P. elatior hybrid.
Hans
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That's a great site for auriculas Maggi, and I see they do SEED! Of all the plants they list, the only name I recognise as being available in NZ, is `Rabley Heath' but the picture showed a quite different plant from what is sold here. They also export overseas (which I take to be more than just the EU). I wonder if they'd like to go through the process of nursery inspections, phytos, etc etc that our MAF requires. I also wonder where the contents of my bank account went.
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Armin, my last photo is a red P. elatior hybrid.
Hans
Hans,
I recognized it (and it is very beautiful too even blossom seem to have suffered from rainfall) but my preference I always give to the wild origin!
brgds
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A picture of my young plant of Primula "Clarence Elliott"-not as good as Diane Clement's version posted a couple of weeks ago,but if I keep it through the Summer watch this space next year.
Also pictured is a Primula marginata grown from seed and flowering for the first time this year.
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I'm not sure if my Clarence Eloitt is correct. I grow mine outside in a trough. The flowers stand just 2"/5cm
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I don't think it is Mark, even allowing for the light the colour is wrong. Apart from it being a marginata hybrid I haven't a clue as to what it could be. Have a look at http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~viv.pugh/ you may see something similar.
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Just after we moved to Devon, nearly 20 years ago, I bought a couple of "wild Devon primroses" and planted them in the back garden. The originals have long gone to the compost heap in the sky but I have never had to buy another primrose thanks to those two plants and the bees. Parts of my garden are covered with self sown plants of a multiplicity of shades. Promiscuous little beggers are Primula vulgaris.
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David, impressive pictures.
Today I discovered a color mix of primroses in a garden nobody takes care.
The lawn is full of moss-grown and wild strawberries.
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here a selection
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selection 2
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selection 3
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selection 4
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selection 5
Isn't it great?
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Armin, some of those look well worth digging up and growing on in your garden!
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David,
I had immediately this idea when I discovered it. I went to the house nearby, rang a bell but nobody opened. I'll try again later this week to get permission to dig a few out.
There are still hundreds of primrose still in buds and double quantity seedlings.
It is worth to visit the meadow again when more flowers are open.
Maybe I find more variations.
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Hello,
today I made a discovery on a single primrose hybrid.
It is likely a cross between P. vulgaris x veris (or elatior).
The surprising thing is: the hybrid shows both flower growths forms in one plant!
It has many stems with a single flower like vulgaris but also a stem with multiple flowers like veris or elatior.
Is this a common feature for primroses hybrids os something special?
Let's chat...
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Armin, I have sometimes seen this happen with Primula polyanthus types, where the plant has both single flower stems and multi-scapes on the same plant. I do not know what causes such instability in these hybrid types.
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Another example of my inability to chuck out failed seed grown Auriculas. This was grown from collected seed from Alpine Auriculas and flowered last year for the first time. It aint an Alpine and it has a "ragged" petal but it does have a nice flush of pink to the white petals and quite pretty mealed foliage. Rather than taking offsets I decided to grow it on as a multi stemmed plant and see what it looked like as a Border Auricula. Well, I have only one flower stem so far this year but I still can't bring myself to chuck it.
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But it's sweet, David, why would you want to ditch it?
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But its sweet, David,, why would you want to ditch it?
Only because it doesn't fit into the acceptable Florists "norms" for Auricula showing and the good growers tell me I should be more disciplined in what I keep and what I chuck out. Apart from that I like the little plant and no doubt I shall keep it but the more I do that the less room I have for the "perfect" varieties, if I ever grow any!!
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Then plant it out in the garden: the farina will get washed off, but it will still be a pretty plant outside.
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Somehow it reminds me of Lily!
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If I grow it on and if it improves, and if I show it in a Border seedling class, and if it wins a card I shall be invited to name it. The name shall be "Lily of Craigton"
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Stunning flowers every one nice to the vulgaris (polyantha hybrids).
We have them naturalized in the garden with veris as the base ond the vulgaris as shorter therm gene doners to the hybrids.
These two seems to stay much longer and are the first to open.
The cream colored one becomes more with with time or light and the purple is a nice colur that I think has shown itself in our garden for the first time. It is much more tight compared to the polyanthes and the flower is also smaller. The cream one is a cultivar that is long in cultivation in Sweden.
Hope You like them.
Joakim
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David, your white auricula is a real beauty. Chuck the "good growers" and keep the primula! Definitely.