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Title: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Paul T on December 17, 2008, 09:51:19 PM
Howdy All,

If this isn't the correct place for this topic, could the moderators please move it to the proper one.  Thanks.

I am interested in information as to grafting Daphne.  I have recently got a few D. longilobata seedlings for the purposes of grafting some other interesting Daphne onto them from friends that have them.... what is the correct timing etc, and are there traps for young players in the grafting process for these guys?  I've not tried much evergreen grafting before, which is why I ask.  I am familiar with grafting onto dormant stock etc, and budding in roses and the like.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Maggi Young on December 17, 2008, 10:10:01 PM
Paul, there are pages in the Old Forum: http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/1606.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/1606.html)
and   http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/15/36391.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/15/36391.html)
Sorry these links are no longer active.

and  also Ian the Christie Kind's article in the main website: http://www.srgc.org.uk/nurseryws/200704/content.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/nurseryws/200704/content.ht)
 Hope this helps  :D
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Michael J Campbell on December 17, 2008, 10:25:03 PM
Paul,grafting daphnes is fairly straight forward. You can do it any time from late winter  until late summer,although spring is the best time. Keep the humidity high until the graft has taken then ween them. I use a small clothes peg to hold the graft but plumbers tape will do just as well . Longilobata is a good stock to start with and should do ok for most daphnes. Try to get as much growth as possible on the new graft before the winter. Red spider is the biggest problem with Daphnes and I don't have any solution other than to keep them outside as long as possible. I am still looking for a solution to the red spider problem myself.

Which varieties are you going to graft?

Hope this is of some help,if you want more information please ask.

cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Giles on December 17, 2008, 11:22:53 PM
Dear Paul,
I'll email you the bit on grafting Daphnes by Harry Jans, from the RHS Daphne Conference publication.(that's easy as it's quite short).
If you are wanting more detail let me know and I'll email you the bit from Robin White's book.
Giles
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Paul T on December 17, 2008, 11:42:02 PM
Thanks to you all for the responses.  I'm at work so haven't accessed my home email.

By the sound of it I should be doing it as soon as possible.  Now I just have to convince some friends to spare some pieces or their miniatures (I don't have specific names for them, just keep seeing them at their place.... I will of course get names at the time.  ;))

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: mark smyth on December 30, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
I'll tag my query here.

I have a very small grafted D. petrea. Today I noticed that there is a small shoot growing from the root stock. Do I just simply nip this off?
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Michael J Campbell on December 30, 2008, 08:52:45 PM
Yes Mark. any young light green shoots that appear from the rootstock nip them off
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: mark smyth on December 30, 2008, 08:53:46 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: lily-anne on September 07, 2015, 08:04:05 PM
Paul, there are pages in the Old Forum: http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/1606.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/1606.html)
and   http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/15/36391.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/15/36391.html)
 Hope this helps  :D

Hello,
How can I open these 2 old links , on grafting daphne?  Maggi ?
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2015, 08:23:02 PM
Lily-Anne, sadly those pages were lost when the old version of the forum was lost.
It may be possible to find something of them using  thehttps://archive.org/web/ (http://[url=https://archive.org/web/)] "Internet Archive: Wayback Machine " site[/url] - I'm looking into that.   -Sorry, no success.


 There is Ian Christie's article -
http://www.srgc.org.uk/nurseryws/200704/content.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/nurseryws/200704/content.html)
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: lily-anne on September 07, 2015, 09:36:48 PM
Thank you Maggi for the super quick response. Pity that the info was lost on the grafting of Daphne.
 I had already found the   info from Ian Christie.
Hopefully there are still members who have experiences with  grafting of daphne. Both positive and negative experiences are welcome. Next year I hope to graft my daphne seedlings
Greetings
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2015, 09:55:59 PM
Lily-Anne - you should contact Michael J. Campbell - he has  grafted hundreds of daphnes and will be able to answer any questions, I'm sure.  You can email or pm him through the forum.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: lily-anne on September 07, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
Lily-Anne - you should contact Michael J. Campbell - he has  grafted hundreds of daphnes and will be able to answer any questions, I'm sure.  You can email or pm him through the forum.


Thank you Maggi ! 😀😀😀
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 08, 2015, 10:30:52 AM
Funny that you should mention that now Maggi as I have just finished potting up a batch of rooted Daphne cuttings.

Here are  a few pics of Daphne grafts and rooted cuttings.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: t00lie on September 08, 2015, 11:12:16 AM
Funny that you should mention that now Maggi as I have just finished potting up a batch of rooted Daphne cuttings.

Here are  a few pics of Daphne grafts and rooted cuttings.

Gee it looks wonderful Michael.  :P :P

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: lily-anne on September 08, 2015, 07:49:00 PM

Thank you for your reply,  Michael.
Wow! What a success!
I want to find out as much information as possible, so  I can try  grafting Daphne  next year.
Would you like to tell us your most important tricks for successfully grafting Daphne
Here are a few questions:
-What is the ideal moment?
-How do you do the grafting?
-is the ent still in winter dormancy and the rootstock  already in the growth or has this little importance
-How do you decide what you're going to do with the daphne: grafting or  take cuttings-
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
Hello, first great work Michael very impressive collection. I will try and show again how I do Daphne grafts here all done this morning will show pictures as we go, I use Daphne tangutica and Daphne mezereum young seedlings as root stock all grown from our own plants with some seed from friends the plants I use today are first year seedlings potted in spring probably should wait for them to be bigger but I manage with great care.
What you need A good sharp blade I have Stanley knife blades a pencil and some small clothes pegs we found those in craft shops. Fist pictures show the plants  with the pencil placed behind the rootstock to avoid cutting fingers also sharp blade cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 09:28:46 AM
Last picture shows I have cut the top off the plant then we select our scions or small cuttings for me D tangutica is best for D. arbuscula and some forms of D x Suzanne D mezereum will work for most others and D longilobata for us is not good will not survive the winter here. Once we have removed the top we then with care cut down through the root stock, Take the Scion and cut the end with care on either side a triangle shape to leave a part of the cambium or outer skin, pictures,  Ian
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 09:36:52 AM
Once you are happy insert the Scion into the cut in the rootstock lace the small peg around your new graft, I have several propagators no heat just now write label for plant, place in propagator in a semi shaded place. I also put some fleece over if very hot. They will need around 6 weeks to take, keep watch every so often, very little water need maybe after 4 weeks remove the pegs if plants look healthy..... more pictures,  Ian
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 09:45:43 AM
Hello again a few more detailed pictures then some of our Daphne collection inside we also have many plants outside they seem to prefer a good deep raised bed or a trough which I will post later today,  cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 09:47:13 AM
A few more,
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 09:50:09 AM
More, Ian
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: t00lie on September 09, 2015, 10:48:53 AM
Great information and photos Mr Christie  ;) . 
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: lily-anne on September 09, 2015, 12:17:01 PM
Thank you very much for the very clear and very in-depth report Ian!
What a collection! fantastic
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 12:58:05 PM
Hello thanks here is part two, growing Daphnes in pots, Compost mixes and Daphnes out side.  Compost mixes we buy John Innes no 3 sterilised loam mix then we add 3 to 5 mm grit and some Melcourt composted bark and a little bit of Pumice so here are first pictures,  Ian the Christie kind.   (Perlite would be o/k)
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 01:01:20 PM
Next,  a few cuttings in a home made propogator
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 09, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
Next Daphnes in a sink recently planted I realise some people do not like the white quarts but for me I try something different, one odd Daphne Hans Bauer. Ian
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 09, 2015, 08:04:26 PM
Nothing much I can add to that Lily-anne, Ian  has demonstrated it perfectly. I usually start in at the end of January to get a good head of growth before the winter and obviously I have to apply a little bottom heat at that time. It is preferable to have the rootstock started into growth at grafting time so you can bring them into the greenhouse a couple of weeks before. The scion should be dormant but
I don't think it matters that much provided it is not too soft. The decision of what to graft is made for you as it is usually the ones that are difficult to root from cuttings. Late Winter early Spring and Autumn for grafting and late Spring and summer for cuttings. My first cuttings were taken on the 25th of May this year but it depends on the season and which plants you are taking the cuttings from, some are ready before others.  That is really all  can add as Ian has covered everything else. Good luck with you grafting,it is easy.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: lily-anne on September 09, 2015, 09:07:19 PM
Ian and Michael, thank you!
 Soon I will repot my seedlings of Daphne tangutica  so  they can be grafted in the spring.
I am eager to start.
Title: Re: Grafting daphnes
Post by: ichristie on September 10, 2015, 08:23:22 AM
Thanks for the extra info Michael have never tried grafting so early weather here usually foul and yes we have a heated propagator anything I try gets either dried out or zapped by overnight frost maybe try again, cheers Ian
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