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Title: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 08, 2008, 09:29:11 AM
It's no longer winter!
There are Tulips in bloom! Firstly the lovely dwarf form of the Lady Tulip,
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And of course T. greiggii hybrids!
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And the lovely little t. cretica
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 08, 2008, 09:38:01 AM
Nice to see the tulips making an appearance.  Particularly like the first one - would be wonderful to have a clump of this.  The Tulipa cretica seems to enjoy your conditions.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 08, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
Fermi,

Good grief, tulips already?  I don't think there's any signs of any here yet, but I haven't had much chance to check so probably wouldn't notice them until they were actually out.  Looking forward to seeing them on Friday.  I do hope we get down there early enough to have time to properly see your garden.  Hopefully Tim got the message to you as requested on Saturday.  Would have emailed you today but I am having troubles with my email server this evening, hence this note!!

And great pics by the way!! 8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 08, 2008, 09:52:19 PM
We're back to winter after a few lovely warm days, but heavier frosts than we've had all through, in time to kill all the magnolia flowers and many rhodos. What's new? Today is thick drizzle, more to come and I need today to sort out some garden things including planting 3 Quercus palustris.

I expect to enjoy every moment of my time in Oz. I always do but the down side is that all my frits are in bud but apart from a couple of flowers (pudica and pinardii) none will be out before I leave and as there are at least 15 that are flowering from seed for the first time and I've never seen before, I will miss these as they have just single flowers that will be finished before I'm home. Same with juno irises, lots of new ones will be finished. Oh well, I can't have everything. I don't plan to leave home at all in the next 12 months following.

My tulipa species are up but not in bud yet.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 09, 2008, 11:07:51 AM
I expect to enjoy every moment of my time in Oz. I always do but the down side is that all my frits are in bud but apart from a couple of flowers (pudica and pinardii) none will be out before I leave and as there are at least 15 that are flowering from seed for the first time and I've never seen before, I will miss these as they have just single flowers that will be finished before I'm home. Same with juno irises, lots of new ones will be finished. Oh well, I can't have everything. I don't plan to leave home at all in the next 12 months following.

Lesley

I know it will not be the same as seeing them in person, bu surely there is someone willing to take photos for you.  Then we can see them on the FORUM  ;) :) ;)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 09, 2008, 08:10:16 PM
I may be able to persuade Roger but the list of other things he has to do while I'm away is already quite daunting. ;D I believe he is actually planning to take the dog and go exploring, himself! How could he, when there's all this stuff needs doing here? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2008, 01:43:09 AM
Lesley
I hope we can make it up to you for missing your new flowers :-*
Here are a few more pics from our garden.
I grow a lot of Rod Barwick's dwarf daff hybrids and I even have hopes of emulating him by breeding my own (some day!) so jumped at the chance to buy some that he sold a few years ago as "unnamed breeders";
so here's "Decoy x Swagger"
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and "Staten Island x Swagger"
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One of my favourite Triandrus hybrids is "Angel's Whisper"
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which is earlier than "Hawera" which is just starting to open:
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A very floriferous hybrid is N.x intermedius, supposedly a tazetta x jonquilla crossing,
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A new flower for me is this jonquila hybrid, "Pipit"
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Modesty forbids me from naming the exhibitor of the Champion daffodil at last weekend's Kyneton Flower Show, but it was another Barwick hybrid, "Stymie"
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cheers
fermi
Title: Kyneton Flower Show 5th-7th Sept 2008
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2008, 04:03:12 AM
Here are some other images form the Weekend's Flower Show at Kyneton in Central Victoria.
One of the Daffodil benches,
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Some of the mini-daffs
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More of the mini/species,
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My entry "Sighing", a jonquilla hybrid from Glenbrook Bulb Farm
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A lovely cyclamineus "Perchance" exhibited by Arthur Manley, raised by Fred Silcock.
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An old hybrid, "Beryl"
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The Championship Table
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Diane Whitehead on September 11, 2008, 06:57:15 AM
there are at least 15 that are flowering from seed for the first time and I've never seen before, I will miss these

Can you set a webcam on them?
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 11, 2008, 07:50:55 AM
Fermi

What a good show.

Well done for your winning entry.

The unnamed breeders have turned up trumps in the garden, particularly liked 'Decoy x Swagger'
Title: Kyneton Flower Show September 2008
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2008, 08:13:20 AM
Thanks, Arthur,
here are a few more pics from Kyneton
Two Hybrid hoops, "Mitimoto" and "Sporoit" which gained a first and a second!
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And a stunning colour break!
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Okay, I suppose because it's in the "Kids' section" it may've been done as a novelty ;D
Other entries from the kids:
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And my favourite, "A snail trail of Flowers"!
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cheers
fermi




Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 11, 2008, 09:35:14 AM
Fermi,

Thanks for the show tour.  That 'Stymie' is a stunner, isn't it.  Must admit I rather like your 'Sighing' too, both of which I've not seen before.  The x intermedius looks a little like 'Baby Star' but better I think.  Talk about floriferous!! :o  Looks like it is quite tall too?  How long has it taken to make that size of clump? 

Well done on the champion!!!!  ;)

Less than 24 hours 'til we're at your place.  Yeah!!!!!!!!!  8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 12, 2008, 12:04:38 AM
Paul (he says, knowing full well that Paul has already left for Victoria and won't see this till he gets home or visits an internet cafe!)
N. x intermedius was sold for many years as "Baby Star" in Australia. ::) It doesn't take long to make a sizeable clump.
Here are some new additions to the Rock garden
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The cyclamineus hybrid is Glenbrook's "Mini-minor" (N. minor x N. cyclamineus)
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And the other is "Wee Bee"
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Another newish section combines daffs, iris and Aussie natives!
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One of these daffs is a cyclamineus hybrid just called "Div 6 Hybrid" and has produced soem double-headers this year! I think this is one of Doug Bryce's own seedlings.
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 12, 2008, 04:46:45 AM
Some daffs open at the moment

Bobwhite
 Carib
 Josie

Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 12, 2008, 04:50:13 AM
And a couple more

Lapwing
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 12, 2008, 05:13:48 AM
Hi Ross,
I like those cyclamineus hybrids!
What's the name of the last one ? Or does it go by the number 010?
I haven't heard of these; are they local hybrids?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 12, 2008, 05:22:40 AM
The last one is Pink Silk, a standard.

Josie is local (Snipe X Mitzy)
Highfield Beauty is an Australian hybrid
Carib and Bobwhite are American hybrids

Not sure if you guys want to see the standards or not.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 12, 2008, 06:37:41 AM
Hi Ross,
Do you know who raised "Josie"?
cheers
fermi
Not sure if you guys want to see the standards or not.
This is a very ecletic group; standards are fine! (And also very high!)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 12, 2008, 06:50:34 AM
Hi Fermi

Colin Crotty

Ross
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 12, 2008, 07:59:42 AM
Wonderful stuff everyone - looking at these pix makes a change to looking at our gloomy skies where water poors out of all the time....

Fermi, I love that new mixed section with Narcis, Iris and the natives - looks really brilliant !

I hope (am sure) you all have lots of fun seeing each other down under !  ;)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Armin on September 12, 2008, 10:03:42 PM
It was raining almost the whole day...
It is a pleasure to see all the little golden treasures...
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 13, 2008, 07:41:00 PM
Some lovely daffs there! I especially like 'Stymie' and 'Josie', but enjoyed seeing them all. Go ahead and post the standards too please.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 13, 2008, 11:00:00 PM
OK.  Here you go.  Have about 80 standards flowering now.  Just assessing which to exhibit at the South Island National show in the next few weeks.

Gabriel Kleiberg - a nice split corona.  Not show quality but really stands out in the garden
Gold Cache - lovely split.  Opens all yellow and fades to the pic
Night Music - fantastic double
Rory's Glen - I really like the O-O daffs.  You either like them or think they are an abomination :)
 
More to come



Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 13, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
Another couple till I can get my camera out.

Trumpet Warrior - nice reverse bicolor
White Sword - all white double - doesn't really spin my wheels
Brass Button - nice, neat double
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 15, 2008, 11:10:50 PM
Ross,

Great pics!!!  Love those doubles (even if some viewing them won't!  ::)).  That 'Night Music' in particular looks spectacular, even in a small pic. 8)

Nice to be back home again, even if it did mean that we drove until nearly midnight last night instead of staying overnight.  1600 or so kilometres all up...... and well worth it to meet Otto, Fermi, Tim. Lesley and Gay Hendersen from NZ (Trillium expert and absolutely LOVELY lady!), Matt Murray from the Blue Mountains (who doesn't know he met me, because I only found out afterwards it was him!  ::)), plus others such as Viv Condon and some people I have bought plants from over the years who I have never met.  Now rather tired, but happy with the trip.... and so many goodies to plant out, mainly thanks to Otto's generosity!  Thanks to Viv for letting us view her garden, Fermi, Otto and especially Tim for their generosity in time, hospitality, and chauffeuring (one such piece of which was the visit to the Aussie Native Plant nursery, which resulted in the other main source of things I now have to plant out)!!!!!  8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 16, 2008, 02:48:27 AM
Via Otto again, Diane, I don't think the webcam would have been a good idea, as they are all out in the open and there's been rain since I left home but I did get Roger persuaded to make some use of his own camera while I'm away, so hopefully, there will be something to see when I get home.

Ross >:( I think after your most recent posting of pics, you and I are parting company on a permanent basis. >:(

Paul I notice you don't include me in the LOVELY lady comment. I take that very hard indeed.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 16, 2008, 02:56:33 AM
Lesley,

But everyone here already KNOWS you're a LOVELY lady, so there was no need to tell them that.  Most would likely not know Gay, so I had to describe her as well for their edification!  8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 16, 2008, 08:55:55 AM
I tried to post this as  a new topic but it didn't work so I'm putting it here instead!

"Last Saturday the AGS Victorian Group (Australia) hosted a plant sale with two talks and a panel of experts under the title of "Garden Treasures".
The first talk was by the Forum's own Lesley Cox on Fritillaria and Dwarf Iris. The second talk was by E. Gay Henderson, known as "Mrs Trillium" about her favourite subject.
A good day was had by all (well, no one's complained to me so far!) so I thought I'd share some pics from the day.
Attendees chat and check out the photo Board
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Some of the plants on the display bench
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A little trillium (? T pusillum?)
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Tim points out to Gay that he'll be watching the clock very closely!
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Another speccy trillium
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Packing up the display
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A few of us went for a meal together afterwards and some candid pics were taken!
Lesley Cox and Yvonne Tyerman,
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And finally,"5 go to a Forum"
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Paul, Lesley, Fermi, Otto and Tim."
It was lovely to see Lesley again and to meet Paul and Yvonne and Gay.
cheers
fermi"
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 16, 2008, 09:38:59 AM
It looks like you all had a grand time Fermi !
Nice to see that the forum was so well represented !
Thanks for letting us taste just a tiny bit of the atmosphere !
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 16, 2008, 09:42:40 AM
Fermi,

Thanks for the pics.  Looking at the last pic I realise just how sick I really was on Saturday night.... I was bright red!!  :o  I know I was feeling awful with that darn virus, but didn't realise I was looking that bad.  :-[  Can't even blame it on drink or anything, as I didn't touch anything alcoholic.  ::)

I can certainly vouch for myself as having thoroughly enjoyed the whole do on Saturday, even if we did miss the best bits of the sales table through being late.  ;)

In between sleeping today trying to catch up a bit, I've been potting up stuff from Otto..... so many treasures!!!!!!!!  8)

I have lots of pics to post when I get the chance, mostly of some of the treasures in Otto's garden.  Sunday morning when I had my tour of Tim's garden the weather was not conducive to pictures, because there were a lot of things there that I would have liked photos of too.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on September 16, 2008, 10:00:09 AM
Wonderful to see so many forumists in one photo ... you've aged a little since your avatar was taken Paul ... the other four look 'considerably' younger!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ashley on September 16, 2008, 11:43:36 AM
... Thanks for the pics ....

and you even including a marsupial :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 16, 2008, 12:13:29 PM
... Thanks for the pics ....

and you even including a marsupial :o ;) ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Actually, Paul, I had thought your rosy complexion could be attibuted to the glow from Lesley's jacket... she was certainly "in the pink"  ;) As, indeed, was Yvonne and Gay.... a theme for the ladies there, I reckon.

How nice to see you all together, enjoying what sounds to have been a super event! 8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 16, 2008, 07:33:34 PM
Nice to meet you in the flesh (as it were!) Paul.

Nice to see the others looking so fit and healthy, must be the outdoor life and a reasonable climate!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 16, 2008, 09:23:18 PM
Fermi's last photograph has a lovely set of blooms.

Who's the young wan, second from left? Lesley Cox? Doesn't look a bit like your usual photograph - you'll have to change that immediately, it puts 40 years on you.

Paddy

Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 16, 2008, 09:34:44 PM
Crawler!! ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 16, 2008, 10:02:42 PM
Perhaps, I exaggerated a little for effect. Could we settle on 39 and three quarter years?

Paddy
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Susan on September 16, 2008, 10:22:05 PM
Good to see forum members enjoying themselves - was that water in front of you Lesley?   Hope you took lots of photos too.

Ross, are you showing some of your Narcissus at the Alpine show this coming week-end in Christchurch?  I am going up to help judge the Rhododendrons and other ericaceous plants. so may see you there.

Susan
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 17, 2008, 01:01:35 AM
While we await posting from the others at the weekend, here are a few pics from our garden this week.
This is a dwarf daff labelled "Segovia"
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And this is labelled "Yellow Xit"
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or is it just "Segovia" again? Paul saw it in bud and pronounced it wasn't "Yellow Xit" even then!
This is "Cindy Lau", Glenbrook's version of "Beryl" as far as I can see,
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I posted a pic of this jonquill hybrid, "Pippit" last week but now the cup has faded to reveal it as a reverse bicolor,
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A similar hybrid is "Hillstar"
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The clump of "Hawera" is now in full bloom,
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And the lovely gardenia-scented and mimic, the double Narcissus poeticus has started,
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: matoutdoors on September 17, 2008, 02:02:27 AM
Paul.... My apoligies for not recognising you. I didnt know what you look like. Perhaps is you had a fluffy white dog with you it might have been different

Cheers


Mat
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on September 17, 2008, 02:46:54 AM
Rightio another attempt at posting.

A number of Narcissus as well as others in bloom over here as well Fermi.

Firstly --purchased from a nursery a couple of years ago as Narcissus hybrid.

Anemone fulgens close up.

Anemone nemorosa close up.

I've never managed to get seed on my clump of Erythronium umbilicatum.This year there appears to be plenty of pollen around so i've been 'introducing' the flowers to each other in the hope of success.

Cyclamen graecum.

Cheers dave.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 17, 2008, 04:49:44 AM
Susan

I won't be showing at the alpine show but I will be there with bells on (sadly, not literally)

I will keep an eye out for you.

Ross

Good to see forum members enjoying themselves - was that water in front of you Lesley?   Hope you took lots of photos too.

Ross, are you showing some of your Narcissus at the Alpine show this coming week-end in Christchurch?  I am going up to help judge the Rhododendrons and other ericaceous plants. so may see you there.

Susan
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 17, 2008, 05:39:31 AM
Rightio another attempt at posting.
Firstly --purchased from a nursery a couple of years ago as Narcissus hybrid.
Cyclamen graecum.
Cheers dave.
Hi Dave,
looks a nice hybrid too! How tall does it grow?
Those erythroniums look good too.
Should Cyclamen graecum be in flower now??
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 17, 2008, 06:48:07 AM
Fermi,

My recollection of 'Yellow Xit' was that it had cream buds, despite the eventual white and yellow flower.  My memory may be in error though.

Mat,

I was the person who gave you directions to the toilets...... I needed them myself to find them earlier as they weren't exactly obvious!!  I wouldn't have expected you to know me, even if I didn't have a dog for my avatar.  ;D

Dave,

If you're successful with the Eryth umbilicatum seed please keep me in mind for a few of them if available.  That is one species that has been on my want list for quite some time.  Still haven't mamanged to find it in Aus yet, but I know Archibalds sell it, but I haven't ordered from them in a number of years.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: t00lie on September 17, 2008, 06:57:51 AM
The Narcissus is about 15 cm to 20cm in height Fermi.

You are right to query Cyclamen graecum in flower now ,however that's what i think it is.Someone no doubt will confirm whether i'm correct or way off the mark.Lol.

Cheers dave.

Paul i see you have just posted --yip any seed from the Erythronium i'll send your way as i have a sizeable clump now.
Any comment on the id of the Cyclamen ?.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 17, 2008, 07:09:41 AM
Dave,

Thanks.  The leaves look right for graecum.... they look to have that 3 dimensional overlay that seems so specific to graecum, like a shimmer within the leaves.  Very strange time for flowering though I would have thought.  Then again, you guys have been having a strange winter too haven't you?
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 17, 2008, 07:34:02 AM
While we await posting from the others at the weekend, here are a few pics from our garden this week.
This is a dwarf daff labelled "Segovia"
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And this is labelled "Yellow Xit"
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or is it just "Segovia" again? Paul saw it in bud and pronounced it wasn't "Yellow Xit" even then!
Fermi

Fermi, we discussed this in spring already.
I made a picture where you can see the difference on page two of this thread.
Have a look here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1683.0 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1683.0)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 17, 2008, 09:00:16 AM
Think I need a new pair of glasses to see the difference between Segovia and Yellow Xit.  I would just buy the cheaper bulb and admire.  :)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 17, 2008, 09:32:12 PM
Yet, both are beautiful and enjoyable and don't even know their own names.

Paddy
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 18, 2008, 12:52:39 AM
Luit,
I can't believe I forgot about the earlier discussion!
I'll have to compare mine at close range, but I suspect both are "Segovia"!
Here's a lovely jonquill hybrid called "Cherie"
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The close-up shows the pink tinge developing in the cup,
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Another version of the dwarf iris suavolens came to me as I.attica
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It's a perfect replica of a TBI on a 4cm "stem"! You can see how small it is compared to the Euphorbia flower next to it.
Here's the first Tulipa clusiana coming up through a veil of acacia!
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Here's a pic of the Acacia draping that part of the rock garden (no I didn't plant it there; it's a "volunteer")
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And here's a look at the Roadside near our place with the wattles (acacia) in bloom.
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And a look at one of the dwarf species; dwarf through genetics or environment? I must collect some seeds and try them in the garden.
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: rob krejzl on September 18, 2008, 02:45:58 AM
Photos of the Hobart Daffodil Show.

Most of the entries on the miniatures table are from Rod B (recognisable by the distinctive handwritten labels).
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: rob krejzl on September 18, 2008, 03:27:21 AM
Some of what's flowering for me at the moment. Paul, I hope you like the Corydalis  ;)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Magnar on September 18, 2008, 08:03:48 AM
So fun to see the spring flowers as we are going into autumn here.. keep posting.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 18, 2008, 09:53:44 AM
Photos of the Hobart Daffodil Show.

Are the bottles used for staging provided by a local brewery?   ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 18, 2008, 11:04:57 AM
Rob, that looks like a great show.........and in a hall with reasonable natural light too, it seems.. always a bonus that.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 18, 2008, 08:38:42 PM
Photos of the Hobart Daffodil Show.

Are the bottles used for staging provided by a local brewery?   ;D ;) ;D

or do you have to empty them first? Now that's my kind of a Show ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 19, 2008, 08:10:34 AM
Rob,

Sorry, only just catching up.... Yes I do like the Corydalis.  matches one I now have in a pot here, thanks to Otto's generosity.  8)  I also finally located the pot of seedlings today, and there are small but still alive shoots in there.  Was hidden by a couple of things, and the shoots were small enough not to be noticeable.  Glad that there are still some in there alive.... will be interesting to see how they shape up to the species and the 'George Baker' that I got from Otto.  I also have some pics of some of the seedlings he has at his place to post, when I get a chance to process them.  Some interesting colours in there, all from seed.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Armin on September 19, 2008, 09:31:49 PM
Paul,
it is joyous to see "the face" behind the little white dog ;)
I never before saw a picture of you.
It seems you all had a great time.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 21, 2008, 10:05:57 AM
Howdy All,

I have finally had a chance to process some of the pics from Otto's place, so I'll post some here and in a few other places throughout the forums (including a couple in the ID section).  Apologies that some of the pictures are not terribly clear.... conditions were not ideal for picture taking, but I took heaps anyway.  Would have been better if it was a bit brighter, but I think they have worked out OK anyway in most cases.

For starters, here's a couple of pics of Otto's garden.... trying to capture how steep it is.  Without the rocks everything would just migrate on downhill to the main road below!  ;D

Then we have some plant pictures...... a lovely dark blue Anemone blanda (a piece of which now resides in a pot here!  ;)) and some of his seed grown Corydalis solida, showing wonderful variation in colours.  The pink and white one in particular was very beautiful, established now as a good sized clump.  Great stuff!!  8)

More shortly.....
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 21, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
This form of Anemone ranunculoides had bronze leaves when emerging.... definitely a beautiful form of it.  Otto had Erythronium clonoies everywhere, predominantly E. revolutum, with some hybrids involving E. oregonum ssp oregonum.  We saw all sorts of different leaf variants, flowers ranging from all white through to dark pinks, all slowly migrating via seed down the hill.  It shows what a wonderful thing time and seed can be!!  ;D  Otto had many other species there as well, but I just wanted to show the large colonies of seedlings that had developed.

He had some wonderful Fritillarias, so here are a couple of them.... F. eduardii and F. obliqua.  Also this fascinating silver leaf Helleborus niger which I had never seen the like of before (but there were quite a number of things like that in Otto's garden..... I covet many, this Helle most definitely included!).

Also flowering for him (although not open due to the weather) was Tulipa tschimganica which even closed was just glorious!!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 21, 2008, 10:22:41 AM
Otto also had some wonderful daffs, so I have included a selection here....

The tiny little form of Narcissus asturiensis was such a cutie, the Narcssus atlanticus was something I think Ottot was flowering from seed for the very first time.  Such a shame this was the best I could do with the photo, but the light was most definitely failing at the time as rain closed in.  Narcissus 'Jinglex Swagger' was one of those interesting variants that opens all yellow and then fades out to almost white, rimmed in yellow.  Very, very pretty!!

And lastly for the daffs is a cyclamineus seedling that appeared by itself in Otto's garden.  He has named it 'Vivian' after a good friend of his, and it is lovely.  The photo doesn't do it justice.... it is absolutely delightful.

And I have finally seen a real live Ophrys orchid, this one Ophrys tenthredinifera.  Such an adorable little thing.... I need Ophrys even more now!!  :o ;D

I'll leave it there for this topic..... I'll post some pics of some of the wonderful Trillium rivale elsewhere, plus a couple of pictures of a local Kookaburra and a couple of plants for ID down in the ID section.  I hope everyone enjoys the pics from Otto's wonderful garden.  Thanks for taking the time to view them!!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 21, 2008, 10:27:02 AM
Paul

I think you have done a excellent job photographing Otto's garden in such trying conditions.

What wonderful plants   :) :) :)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 21, 2008, 11:09:18 AM
A few lovelies out at the moment

An unnamed Sparaxis (as much as I dislike unnamed plants I really liked this and had to snap it up a couple of years ago)
Fritillaria tuntasia
Gentiana verna alba (I prefer the blue but do you think I can get my hands on it at the moment?)
Lily tulip with a buried label (Queen of Sheba?)

Ross
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 21, 2008, 02:16:07 PM
Paul,
Thanks very much for helping us discover Otto's garden - stunning plants and great photography, despite the difficult conditions !

Ross,
That Sparaxis is really very special !
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 22, 2008, 07:15:27 AM
Good job, Paul, on photographing Otto's Garden.

Ross,
that Maroon Sparaxis is around South-Eastern Australia as well; I think it was one that was considered to be a Streptanthera at one point. The tulip does look like "QoS"
Here are a few more pics from our garden.
A "new" cyclamineus hybrid from Glenbrook Bulb Farm, "Snook"
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A little pink cup/jonquilla hybrid,"Bell Song"
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A double which I think I got as "Queen Anne's Double (?) Jonquil"
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Many people complain about a paucity of bloom on Tulipa saxatilis, but conditions here must suit it,
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The brightly coloured T. albertii is also flowering now,
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And T. clusiana have opened in the sun,
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 22, 2008, 08:05:09 AM
Great stuff Fermi !
That bunch of T. saxatile (I could hardly call it a clump  ;D ) is outstanding !!!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 22, 2008, 09:05:20 AM
Thanks, Luc,
I liked the pics you posted of your garden (in the NH thread) too! :)
Here are a few others in flower,
The "Sad Glad", Gladiolus tristis, which is powerfully scented in the evening,
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Another South African, "Sequins", Geissorhiza splendidissima,
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A close up on G. corrugata
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A DBI called "Tricks"
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Anacyclus depressus, the Moroccan (?) daisy,
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And a first flowering on the tiny Townsendia hookeri grown from AGS Seedex 2006 seed,
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 22, 2008, 09:39:53 AM
You better be careful Fermi with that Gladiolus tristus as it seems to spread pretty rapidly here. One day I would like to get Pelagonium triste again - nothing much to look at but the perfume is lovely.
Rain and cold today and then 29C forecast for the end of the week.
Have been enjoying the treasures from some of the Australian bulb experts on this forum.
Pat T
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 22, 2008, 09:46:49 AM
Otto's garden looks wonderful - he certainly won't have a problem with drainage! Narcissus 'Vivien' is very special - what a find  :o
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 22, 2008, 09:51:18 AM
Fermi,

Great pics!!  I have to wonder though what the actual difference between DBI 'Tricks' and 'Making Eyes' is....... yours looks just like the latter!  So many of them are so similar (and shouldn't have been allowed to be named, to my way of thinking anyway), but Making Eyes has always been somewhat distinctive, which is why I mention it?  Is the Narc 'Queen Anne's Double' the double form of Campernelle?

Ross,

Love that Sparaxis.  I have a deep velvety red/black that is similar, but without the clean yellow interior like yours, and another one that appeared in my garden that is a deep velvety purple.  Those dark intense colours just look SO good.  8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Susan on September 22, 2008, 11:27:42 AM
Have just returned from the combined spring show of the New Zealand Alpine Garden Society, the Daffodil Circle and the Canterbury Rhododendron Society, held over the week-end in Christchurch, NZ.

A few photos from the Show.
First a few views over the show.

Ranunculus buchananii x lyallii.
Dwarf rhododendrons.
Some large leaf rhododendrons.
Trillium rivale
Trillium rivale Purple Heart.
Trillium chloropetalum.


 
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Susan on September 22, 2008, 11:37:05 AM
A few more.
Cassiope Beatrice Lilley.
Salix repens Iona form.
Saxifraga marginata coriophylla lutea.
Various arums including A palaestinum.
Finally the cherry blossom alongside the River Avon which flows through Christchurch.  The city was looking lovely with daffodils and prunus of different varieties and the bluebells just starting to appear.

Susan

Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 22, 2008, 11:37:33 AM
Sue

Thanks for the many photos from what looks to have been an excellent Show.

The Cherry blossom is stunning.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 22, 2008, 11:56:23 AM
What a lovely looking show... I think its great to have the different societies combining to make one bigger event.
Thanks for this "vsit" for us, Susan.

I love the way, just in case we had any doubts about it really being Spring downunder, even with the show flowers, you have brought us the cherry blossom photo to PROVE it!! Super!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Susan on September 22, 2008, 12:06:11 PM
Thank you for the kind comments.  It was a lovely show and they had a lot of stalls selling plants.  Because I had to be there early, I had the opportunity to have a good look before the doors opened.  Needless to say I came home with quite a number of delicious little goodies. Just as well I removed 6 quite large "dwarf" rhododendrons this winter from the rock garden.;D

That and the fact that spring is really underway fill one with new enthusiasm.

Susan
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 22, 2008, 01:08:25 PM
Great pictures Sue !
Thanks for taking us along - I had never been to a NZ show before....  ;D   

It doesn't seem to be so much different down under ... as soon as we see plant stalls we all seem to fill our carboots..  ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Susan on September 22, 2008, 10:05:32 PM
Yes Luc, it doesn't seem to matter where you are in the world, or how old, that enthusiasm still remains.  I should have included the rush for the plants, at one stage people were almost three deep at the stalls. 

It is that challenge to grow something new or something that one has maybe, lost before - it is what keeps us alive!

Susan
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 23, 2008, 12:56:46 AM
Susan,
thanks for the pics of the Show; the "feeding frenzy" at the sales tables seems to be a universal phenomenon among gardeners! ;D

I took a few pics of the Euphorbias in our Rock garden;
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Originally we planted E.rigida,
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and E. myrsinites
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but the one between these two appears to be a hybrid with features intermediate between them! And certainly very floriferous.
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I think we discussed this last year and opinion was divided as to whether it was simply a variation on E. myrsinites, but this close comparison would appear to indicate hybridisation.
Also in flower is Fritillaraia pontica,
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini-daffs on September 23, 2008, 09:26:36 AM
 ;D
Hi
The photo of the N. asturiensis at Otto's is probably not N. asturiensis but a hybrid of N. asturiensis with N. cyclaminieus.  
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 23, 2008, 10:20:01 PM
Thanks Graham, always good to know incorrect IDs.  What are the tell-tale signs?
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 23, 2008, 10:23:41 PM
Paul

I would think it is the extended trumpet  ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 24, 2008, 06:29:20 AM
Great to see all these local pictures. Obviously a very good show Susan, quite a bit better than last year's by the look of it.

I'll get to posting some pics soon but for now am catching up on the 954 emails in my Inbox, over 900 from the Forum. I'm going through them subject by subject and so far have them down to just over 600!

I arrived home and was released from MAF at 1.15 on Monday morning, to get a plane from Chch to Dunedin at 11.30am Tues. We were 15 mins late taking off, the pilot saying "we're taking on some extra fuel in case we can't land in Dunedin." What? ? ? ? ?

A reasonably smooth trip south then some extreme turbulence as we approached Dunedin and we circled around for 30 mins, waiting for cross wind gusts of 40 knots to lessen. They didn't. We tried to land twice, pulling up and out at the last second, then eventually went back up to Christchurch, where, by that time it was also very gusty.

Planes from Queenstown and Invercargill has also returned to Chch so by the time we arrived, there wasn't much left of rental cars. A bus was arranged for Q'town people, a 7 hour trip, but all that was offered to my lot was a flight next morning, Dunedin and Invercargill airports closed for the day. We were given to understand that a night in a hotel would be at our own expense. I really wanted to get home by that time so shared a car with 3 Dunedin businessmen who also had to get back last night for early appointments this morning. They jointly hired a large car but dispensed with the chauffeur. I'd been beside one of them on the plane so when he offered me a ride, I took it gratefully, quite a fun trip on the whole. Arrived back in Dunedin at 7pm.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 24, 2008, 07:06:53 AM
Lesley, just FYI, the airline always pays for putting passengers up in hotels for disrupted flights (I should know being a revenue manager for a hotel - I love flight disrupts) so don't ever let them make you pay if you end up in a similar situation.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini-daffs on September 24, 2008, 09:00:56 AM
 ;D
Paul,
N.asturiensis has inflexing petals not reflexing petals.Reflexing petals is usually a sign of N. cyclamineus parentage.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 24, 2008, 10:46:37 AM
Graham,

When you put it like that it really is pretty obvious isn't it.  hadn't even thought about it from that point of view.  Your 'form that kicks" is OUTSTANDING!!  :o 8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 24, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
Lesley, just FYI, the airline always pays for putting passengers up in hotels for disrupted flights (I should know being a revenue manager for a hotel - I love flight disrupts) so don't ever let them make you pay if you end up in a similar situation.

Thanks Ross, I'll remember for the future. I did really need to get home though as I had a dental appointment at 9 yesterday morning. As it happened, they phoned at 7.30 and asked me to come next week instead. Dentist has flu!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 25, 2008, 09:20:58 AM
Here are some pics taken along the roadside at Langley which is between Redesdale and Kyneton where I work.
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I'd seen the splash of colour on the drive to work and could stop there in daylight yesterday, but still not enough light to stop the flash going off! It was a large flowering of "Pinkbells", Tetratheca ciliata,
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In our garden, some other native plants coming into flower include Philotheca
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And one of the smaller "Guinea-flowers", Hibbertia riparia,
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 25, 2008, 10:03:02 AM
Very cool, Fermi!  Very cool!!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 25, 2008, 06:52:15 PM
The pinkbells are lovely - are they hardy?
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 26, 2008, 12:58:04 AM
The pinkbells are lovely - are they hardy?
Hi Anne,
they tolerate down to -7C here.
Paul,
here's a pic of the things you left,
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And a close up of the Frits,
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In the Shadehouse some Cyclamen persicum (labelled "ex israel") are in bloom,
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There are at least 3 different flower types,
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Also in flower is the rather large Lachenalia bolusi,
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 26, 2008, 04:02:54 AM
Fermi,

Excellent.  Are the other two Trilliums flowering as well?  I think they were both white?  Can't remember exactly.  Thanks for looking after them.... if Elizabeth hasn't been in contact yet she will be at some point, but otherwise let me know and I'll hassle her to contact you.

Thanks again for looking after them for me.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on September 26, 2008, 11:35:59 AM
Hi Fermi,

Nice to see some native Aussie plants along with all your other postings. It seems you have an inexhaustible supply of spring bulbs flowering slightly ahead of ours here.

Now a few picture I took this afternoon in my own garden

I'm feeling pleased I have at last got a good clump Narcissus bulbocodium flowering from seed (well it is a start at least). Also a Bellevalia that I think is pycnantha. If someone can confirm this I would be grateful.

No 3 is Androsace vandellii

No 4 is Sanguinaria canadensis

No 5 is Trillium ovatum. The first plant that flowered for me has turned pink.

No 6 is Andromeda polifolia

No 7 and 8 is Magnolia ' Iolanthe ' a plant I rescued from the discard bin in the local garden shop.

Last a very floriferous red Camellia that has now grown into a good sized shrub
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 26, 2008, 11:54:25 AM
Fermi,

Forgot to mention that it is great to see the roadside ablaze with colour like that.  I can almost picture where that is, although there wasn't colour like that a couple of weeks ago.  The Tetratheca are in full flower here in Canberra as well, both here and in the ANBG (but I haven't posted any pics to the ANBG thread of them as yet)

David,

All lovely.  Congrats on the Trillium ovatum.  Still never flowered that here as yet.  Isn't it a wonderful time of year right now?  ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Kristl Walek on September 27, 2008, 01:26:15 AM
Fermi,
Nice to see some native Aussie plants along with all your other postings.

Yes, thank you....and I would love to see more southern Hemisphere natives...
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 27, 2008, 08:44:24 AM
David
What a wonderful selection of plants.  I think Spring just eclipses Autumn in the variety of plants - although the Autumn colours are a real bonus.

On the Forum we can have the best of both worlds.  8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 27, 2008, 09:47:34 AM
Fermi,
Nice to see some native Aussie plants along with all your other postings.

Yes, thank you....and I would love to see more southern Hemisphere natives...

Kristl,

Just checking that you've seen my topic on Australian Native plants at the Botanic Gardens here in Canberra?  It's in the General Forum section.  As I get a chance to process pictures I've taken at the ANBG I post them there.  You've probably already seen it, but thought I'd check just to make sure.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 01:58:34 AM
Finally I'm getting around to sorting some pics from here and from my Australian holiday. These first ones are of the few fritillarias which haven't been smashed by gale force winds we've had through recent days, the worst (and when the damage was done) on last Tuesday, when my plane was unable to land and went back to Christchurch. Only the plants of 15 cms or less have come through unscathed.

First, Fritillaria drenovskyi
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F. ehrhartii
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One which I hope someone can identify for me please. It's a little like davisii but uniformly coloured in and out and with square shoulders. I have about 40 of them, presumably from seed, but I don't know where from. This is the first to flower at about 7cms. The foliage is different from davisii too.
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This one probably IS davisii but in a small pot labelled F. bithynica
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Three of F. rhodokanakis. I've only had 3 flowers previously.
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And finally, 2 of F. mutabilis
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Note the clean fingernail. I took these the day after I arrived home. No weeding for a fortnight!

Note too, the weeds in the raised bed of the last pics. They have come up like mushrooms in so short a time, though a lot of the greenery is, in fact, Campanula arvatica wandering about.

Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 29, 2008, 08:55:58 AM
Lesley

Lucky you with so many flowers.

Might the mystery frit be ruthenica.  :-\
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 29, 2008, 10:08:57 AM
Oh Lesley, they're all beautiful!!!

The Frit and Erythronium seed you sent me a few months back are all germinating by the way.  Discovered this the day after we got back from Victoria, but knew you were still traveling so didn't email you at the time.  Thank you SO much. :D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 29, 2008, 10:54:46 AM
Fantastic Frits Lesley !!!!
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 08:59:18 PM
I'll look into the possibility of ruthenica Arthur but the one flower is just a few cms high and not REALLY like my other ruthenica (another one that was smashed by wind). I don't know how I'd have so many though as I've never had seed on mine or from elsewhere. Of course as it's the only one it could be a ring in, among something else which hasn't flowered yet. The leaves don't remind me of anything.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 09:24:52 PM
Glad your frit seeds are coming up Paul. Lots happening here too among the seeds. I need to go away more often in order to have 20 or so new things up when I get home. On a daily inspection, there's hardly anything happening.

Here are some from Australia, and I think Paul has done some at least, but you won't mind Paul if I repeat?

Two from Tim's garden,
Mukdenia something, which is in the Saxifraga family.
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And Soldanella, probably montana. Tim had a band of this along the top of a stone wall, all in full flower. The full frontal shot I took was badly out of focus, so useless. I'll have to go back.....
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A lovely Mahonia species at Otto's
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And three stunning hellebores,
H. niger with silver foliage
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A single black whose leaves were also very black shaded
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And a bright butter yellow which retained its yellow colour for all of the 8 days I was there. My own "yellow" goes green within a day of opening.
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 09:43:46 PM
Two from inside Otto's tiny alpine house (2 people inside and it's seriously crowded :))
Iris zenaidae
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and the pure golden treasure that will become Fritillaria davidii. These seedlings are in their second year and the typical leaf shape is obvious, with lateral as well as well as longnitudinal veins, unique in frits.
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Down Otto's steep garden were irises and frits to die for.
Iris bucharica in an all gold form
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Iris 'Warlsind,' a deliciously perfumed hybrid between warleyensis and aucheri (formerly sindjarensis)
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This one is either I. 'Sunshine,' a Ruksans hybrid or I. graeberiana 'Yellow Fall'. They were both there but I seem to have a picture of only one. Otto please?
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 10:24:38 PM
Fritillaria ehrhartii with Tecophilaea
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This little shrublet is an Australian but I foolishly didn't record its name. Someone please? It is a real honey, quite prostrate.
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The beautiful bigeneric hybrid x Chionoscilla allenii which I haven't seen in NZ. Must ask Marcus as it will be permitted, both parents being on the Bio Index.
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Fritillaria eduardii, which is different from F. imperialis in that the leaves continue up the stems while the other largely has naked stems. Took me a while to work this out and I had them mixed in my mind.
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To finish in Otto's garden, one of the fabulous big-leaved rhododendrons. Not sure which.
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
This next group were taken in the garden of Viv Condon, President of the Victorian Group of the Alpine Garden Society, so far as I know, the only overseas "local" group of AGS. It is a very active and committed group of alpine gardeners who sometimes have to cope with most un-alpine conditions and produce incredible results in the face of a difficult climate.

Trillium rivale in a "spashed" pink colouring, the leaves stained with a deep purple near the petioles.
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Not sure about this one,maybe T. cuneatum or perhaps a red seedling from T. luteum (which happens).
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I saw several fine plants of Anemonella 'Schoaf's Double' in Australia and everyone said "it came from Viv Condon." Her's was the biggest and must have been huge, had she not taken pieces from it.
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Two common but still very beautiful plants, a pulmonaria and a crucifer whose name I've already forgotten.
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2008, 11:04:39 PM
The final group from Viv's garden, just three.

Firstly, Otto, pretending to be an old man. :)
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As a group, on the Sunday morning after Gay's and my talks, we went to Viv's first then to a native plant nursery. Those pics later. This little group included Tim, Gay, Otto, Viv, Paul and Yvonne.
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And finally, the visiting speakers
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 29, 2008, 11:15:36 PM
I really hope you can show the pictures which did not show up Lesley!
Good luck next time!

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Mukdenia something, which is in the Saxifraga family
Mukdenia rossii (formerly Aceriphyllum rossii)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 30, 2008, 11:10:04 AM
thank you for persevering, Lesley, it looks like all the pix are in place now  8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 30, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Lesley, the white crucifer might be Pachyphragma macrophyllum.
Glad your pictures came through.

Would like to know why at most pictures one can see how many times was looked at it?
In your posting and in several other posts I've noticed the same???
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 30, 2008, 01:42:17 PM
Luit, if photos are added at the end of post, they come with a chance to see how many people have clicked on each photo to enlarge it .... if pix are included in the body of a post, then that facility is not available.

 I do hope that all new readers realise that they can enlarge the thumbnail pix to enjoy bigger photos..... ::) 8)
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 30, 2008, 01:55:32 PM
Thanks for taking the trouble Lesley !
Great pix - I hope you have some more left...  ::) 
It's rapidly becoming autumn here you know.... we can do with a bit of colour and light from the SH !!  ;D
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 30, 2008, 04:51:27 PM
Luit, if photos are added at the end of post, they come with a chance to see how many people have clicked on each photo to enlarge it .... if pix are included in the body of a post, then that facility is not available.

Thanks Maggi! But... I would not even know how to include pictures in a post. ???
Sometimes it would be of help, mostly when people do make a list of the plants shown,
but then the pictures have no names, which means scrolling several times to see what
name the plants have.  ::) ::)
Or is this only the matter for people with "senior brains"? ;D ;D

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I do hope that all new readers realise that they can enlarge the thumbnail pix to enjoy bigger photos..... 

This I have heard of  when I send a page to a friend to have a look at it.
Often I get a mail where they write that the pics are so small.

Maybe there is a clue?
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: hadacekf on September 30, 2008, 06:10:09 PM
Fantastic pics Lesley !!!! Thanks
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 30, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
Thanks everyone. I had to delete the attachthumb bit, then do it again and relocate the pic files. But eventually it worked.

There are a lot more to come, from the native plant nursery (I'll need Paul's and Fermi's help there as I omitted to write down any names) and from Don Schofield's garden at Mt Tomah. Some wonderful things there, but I've yet to resize etc. Filthy day today so I may get some done this afternoon. We are now in summer time, 3 hours ahead of Oz for the time bring.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on September 30, 2008, 09:24:20 PM
Lesley

Glad there are a lot more to come.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on October 01, 2008, 01:02:25 AM
Lesley, your nearly yellow form of Frit.rhodokanakis is just stunning!!, please, please handpollinate, I would love to get a few seeds .It was great to have you here, and thanks for posting all the photos from our gardens, but you should not have included the one of the old invalid. The charming prostrate australian shrub with the tiny white flowers is Cryptandra amara nana, and the blue Juno Iris is I. 'Skyline' from Ruksans.
     Otto.
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 01, 2008, 06:43:21 AM
Fermi,

Excellent.  Are the other two Trilliums flowering as well?  I think they were both white?  Can't remember exactly.  Thanks for looking after them.... if Elizabeth hasn't been in contact yet she will be at some point, but otherwise let me know and I'll hassle her to contact you.

Thanks again for looking after them for me.
Hi Paul,
the white one has only a small flower so I didn't include it in the pic. Please ask Elizabeth to contact me, you have my details.
Flowering for me for the first time is Fritillaria carica, grown from seed from Marcus Harvey in 2003 (I think!)
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Flowering well in the Rock garden is Paeonia cambessedesii,
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For those who like Aussie native plants, here are a few more from the Rock garden,
Pimelea glauca
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and, Lesley, in answer to your yet to be asked question, "no I haven't sniffed it to see if it's scented like your NZ ones"!
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One of my favourites is Eutaxia microphylla, because in spring it is covered in "egg & bacon" flowers like this
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but after the seedpods fall off it looks for all the world like a prostrate conifer.
Orthrosanthus laxus is a soft blue
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and attracts hoverflies
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 01, 2008, 10:25:32 PM
Thanks for the Cryptandra name. I think it is a lovely little plant. Thanks too, for the correction. I thought Sunshine didn't sound quite right and I should have remembered 'Skyline' from Don's road. In fact I remember thinking at the time that I WOULD remember because of Don's road. Then I forgot! :'(

The Frit. rhodokanakis are all seedlings, not a single clone and I assure you I have hand-pollinated every flower with every other flower and this morning I even found an extra flowering plant, in my spent compost heap, where I must have tipped stuff from pots when I planted out these and others a couple of years ago, in their raised bed so it does seem to be an obliging frit. One way or another we'll get it across the ditch.

Fermi, here's my F. carica, also a first flower from Marcus' seed, 2004.
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F. stribrynii, another first flower from Marcus
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F. lusitanica, seedling from Pilous
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One of my favourites, F. whittallii, because of its soft, misted colouring
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And 2 of F. meleagris, in pale colours. One is a dumpy seedling in a pot of F. michailovskyi sdlgs and the second I found in rough grass yesterday. I'll rescue it later. I very much like these pale, almost pink forms of F. meleagris
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Title: Re: September 2008 - definitely Spring - in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on October 01, 2008, 10:31:40 PM
Looks like you've been having problems Lesley? ???
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