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Title: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Alberto on September 01, 2008, 12:26:10 PM
Hi all, here is the spectacular and scented blooming of P. zeylanicum. For me it is the more fine Pancratium. The one-flowered scape is only 10 cm tall.
Alberto
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Paul T on September 01, 2008, 12:39:40 PM
Very, very cool picture Alberto.  Love the progression of flowers.  Do you have a shot of the flower from above as well, to show the face?  So they're quite diminutive plants then?
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Alberto on September 01, 2008, 12:42:13 PM
Here is.
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Paul T on September 01, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
What a stunner.  Glorious flower.  So similar to some of the other Amaryllidaceae, yet so different.  Never seen anything quite like it.  A picture was posted to a gardening list I am on today of Pamianthe peruvianum and it has some of those same, almost geometric qualities about it, but the Pancratium is much more intricate.  Is it perfumed as well?  Must be a pleasure to grow and flower something like that.  Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2008, 12:58:56 PM
Yet another new plant to me, Alberto! How delicate it is. How does it like to grow?
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Folypeelarks on September 01, 2008, 02:03:02 PM
Ah, It's so nice!I love all the species Pancratium.Pancratium zeylanicum is one of the coolest!In the nature this plant grows at the coasts of different islands.I love it.
Till now I have only Pancratium maritimum.
The other species are also very beautiful.
Pancratium illyricum is one of my favourite.
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Hans J on September 01, 2008, 04:53:31 PM
Alberto ,

again congratulation to this beautiful plant !
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Cris on September 01, 2008, 06:01:11 PM
Alberto, what a beautiful plant. I've already had two bulbs, but they didn't get away. Maybe because they were outside the wouse and did not resisted the winter.
Great photos. :o
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Alberto on September 01, 2008, 06:53:23 PM
  A picture was posted to a gardening list I am on today of Pamianthe peruvianum and it has some of those same, almost geometric qualities about it, but the Pancratium is much more intricate.  Is it perfumed as well? 
Paul, the flowers of Pamianthe peruviana are completely different, you can read about it on this forum too, in Amaryllidaceae.
Yes, P. zeylanicum is sweetly scented, it reminds me the scent of Mirabilis jalapa or Calonyction aculeatum.

Yet another new plant to me, Alberto! How delicate it is. How does it like to grow?
Maggi, this species likes warm and water in summer at least, in a very sandy soil.

Alberto, what a beautiful plant. I've already had two bulbs, but they didn't get away. Maybe because they were outside the wouse and did not resisted the winter.
Great photos. :o
Cris, I think Lisboa is too cold and wet in winter, isn't it?

Alberto
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: David Nicholson on September 01, 2008, 07:27:49 PM
A beautiful plant Alberto, such a pure white.
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Cris on September 02, 2008, 10:58:50 AM
"Cris, I think Lisboa is too cold and wet in winter, isn't it?"

Alberto, yes, here in winter is cold. Last year didn't rained much, it was a strange winter.
I've protected the bulbs from frost, but, in spring, as nothing appeared on the surface, I looked the bulbs and they were like "cooked". All the bulb in the interior were brown, nothing left healthy.
Maybe I sould had put them inside, near a window. If I can get another bulb or seeds, I'll try again, but this time inside the house.
A friend told me that the tempertatures in Portugal to these bulbs are antartics.
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Joakim B on September 16, 2008, 06:20:36 PM
It is so funny to hear of Lisbon being cold. For a Swede I would say it does not even have a winter! (Outdoors, indoors is a very different thing!) it is seldom below zero at least last year I do not think it was ever and then again in the city it is so warm that cymbidium are outside all Year as well as Clivia and phaphiopedilum. In the city near a wall the micro-climat must be dry and warmish? Maybe not enough?
Nice to have You back again Chris :)
Kind regards
Joakim now based in Lisbon
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: David Nicholson on September 16, 2008, 07:09:31 PM
It is so funny to hear of Lisbon being cold. For a Swede I would say it does not even have a winter! (Outdoors, indoors is a very different thing!) it is seldom below zero at least last year I do not think it was ever and then again in the city it is so warm that cymbidium are outside all Year as well as Clivia and phaphiopedilum. In the city near a wall the micro-climat must be dry and warmish? Maybe not enough?
Nice to have You back again Chris :)
Kind regards
Joakim now based in Lisbon

Are you permanently based in Lisbon now Joakim?
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Cris on September 18, 2008, 01:42:41 PM
Hi Joakim

You're wrigth, here comparing with other countries it's as if it were spring. Sometimes we see turists in the beach at the end of winter, and it seem they are enjoing so much as it was summer.
I'm afraid I'll frozen if I live in a country with much cold.  ::)
When the firsts days of cold arrive I'm already brrrrrrr..... with cold, so imagine...
Now there has been a hot days, but at night the temperatures came down. We're almost in autumn.
Do you live now in Lisbon?
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Joakim B on September 22, 2008, 02:19:37 PM
Yes David and Chris I am now living in Lisbon on and off. Mostly on I would say. I do most of my gardening in Coimbra and Lund so that is also correct.
Chris if You live in a cold country the houses are built for it and I am very seldom cold indoors in Sweden but I am often very frozen indoors in Portugal in the winter. Most Portuguese houses seem to be built to keep the heat out in Summer and since it never gets really cold one just needs to have a warm sweater indoors or the same jacket as outdoors.
I think the problem now is that many want to have the houses warm in winter and that is expensive and very inefficient.
I often go out in the sun in winter to warm up in the mornings.  ::) So I almost take of cloths when going out.  :o The opposite in Sweden.

I love being able to leave gladiolus and dahlias in the ground over winter and they survive and thrive so the mild winter/ no winter has some great advantages.

It did rain here so I think more of Autumn than summer even if there has been some nice days as well. I have been spoiled living here so with a wind and only 22C I would never go to the beach. In Sweden I would for sure be at the beach at this temperatures.

We are able to have Hippeastrum both in pots and in the ground and they do very well but the foliage is eaten by small slugs so they are not doing as well as they could.
I am more and more into the southern hemsphere plants like rain lillies but we do not see that much here in Portugal, but what we see is often in huge numbers.
Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Cris on September 29, 2008, 01:51:02 PM
Chris if You live in a cold country the houses are built for it and I am very seldom cold indoors in Sweden but I am often very frozen indoors in Portugal in the winter. Most Portuguese houses seem to be built to keep the heat out in Summer and since it never gets really cold one just needs to have a warm sweater indoors or the same jacket as outdoors.
I think the problem now is that many want to have the houses warm in winter and that is expensive and very inefficient.

Joakim, here we have this problem, some houses don't have systems to avoid cold and hot. i'll try to explain: Now, many people use to put air conditioned, or other systems. The central system to warm the houses is just being apllied a few years ago, in the construction of the house. But, many house don't have any system, and it is realy sad.
I give you an exemple: the house were I lived until a few mounths ago, in a winter had 9ºC inside. You can imagine how we were, almost frozen. That year we decided to put a electric system, that increases the temperatures during all day. But it was very expensive, and the bill of electricity was huge.

I also like very much the rain lilies. I started with some bulbs I bought a years ago, and now I'm growing some species from seed, what is very interesting for me.
But, from now on I must cover them (the seedlings), beacause the nights are already a bit cold.
Title: Re: Pancratium zeylanicum
Post by: Joakim B on October 01, 2008, 04:30:52 PM
Chris luckely I have never had9C indoors but we do use a lot of electricity since we have electric radiators. 200€ for a month just for heating is a lot of money. Luckely it is just for two months.
Interesting with Your rain lillies.
Hope You will grow them successfully and then be able share knowledge and in the really long run plants (by selling trading or what ever) if they multiply well.
Kind regards
Joakim
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