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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Alberto on August 23, 2008, 05:04:06 PM
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Hi all, Nerine are going to bloom.
Here is N. gaberonensis, with pink flowers. it is told it is evergreen, but it is deciduous in winter almost with me.
Alberto
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Hi Alberto,
really apart flowers. I never saw this species before.
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Very nice Nerine Alberto, most attractive.
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Nice one, Alberto!
Paddy
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Alberto,
Aren't species Nerine so cool. 8) Can't say I've come across that species before, and I do like the way the flowers are so swept up, quite distinct from any other species I've seen (or at least seen in person). Great to see it. Thanks very much. :D
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Alberto - New to me as well, thanks, quite neat. I was shocked Friday night to see leaves emerging on N. undulata, N. flexuosa 'Aba' and a flower stalk shooting up on N. 'Fothergillii Major'. These had just been cleaned and repotted a few days ago. they are incredible at detecting a slight drop in night time temperaures. hopefully the warm weather will keep the rest shut down as 27c today and 19c at the moment.
johnw
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This is N. filifolia. It is an easy species to grow from seed!
Alberto
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Alberto,
It's one that never sets seed for me here. I get seed from undulata, masoniorum, flexuosa alba, angulata etc every year, plus some years from pudica and humilis but I can never recall ever getting a seed from filifolia. I wonder if we have an infertile clone here in Aus, or whether there just needs to be more than one clone of this species to produce seed?
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Usually I collect a lot of seeds from my plants! and they are from only one source.
Alberto
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Alberto,
Yours were grown from seed though weren't they? Which means that they're multiple clones, not just offsets from an original plant. All of my filifolias came from a purchase years ago. Other species I mentioned will set seed with just a single flowerhead, but even with masses of flowerheads on the filifolia I've never known a seed to mature.
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This is N. filifolia. It is an easy species to grow from seed!
Alberto
Ah but first find the seed.
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Arthur, they are not difficult to find ;)
Alberto
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This is N. filifolia. It is an easy species to grow from seed!
Ah but first find the seed.
They are available from
www.africanbulbs.com
in April, £2.50 for 8-15 seeds.
How many years does it take to flower?
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Hi all ,
here is a Nerine from my collection :
Nerine laticoma
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Hans, What an odd shaped flower! Good colour with the dark striping.
Re N. filifolia, I have never had seeds on my plants but it produces offsets at an amazing rate and there are always plenty to spread around.
Paddy
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Paddy ,
yes they are nice plants .....
I try always to get the white flowered form ....but until no succsess :'(
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Johnw you arent alone to have Nerines in leaf and flower bud showing
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Here are mine
Can I give them a liquid feed at this stage?
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Mark - Your leaves are far more advanced than mine. Here they are still just peaking out. I gave them Ian's potash treatment twice last Spring and they didn't seem to mind it. Just be extremely cautious with the nitrogen, if I recall I mixed at about 1/10 the recommended rate or even less - the fertilizer was something like 3-0-8 - I wasn't very brave. I'll repeat Ian's treatment in the late autumn and every month or two after that. Since they were just repotted that will be it until next year.
A few are ready to bloom ... undulata, flexuosa Alba, sarniensis v. corusca 'Major', v. fothergillii Major and a few Smithers seedlings. The bulk bloom in mid October on.
Would love to see yours in bloom.
johnw
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I have never had any success with Nerines in the garden but a friend brought me a selection of unnamed bulbs back from a holiday in Madeira. Two of them looked like Nerines to me and I potted them up (the others are possibly a couple of Watsonias and an Hippeastrum!).
Here's a pic of one of the Nerine pots today.
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Here is Nerine bowdenii - a high mountain form from Mont aux Sources -
seeds received long ago from the AGS - Donor was Harry Hay
This form is completely hardy here
Gerd
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Hi all ,
now today after some days of cold and fog wether :
Nerine sarniensis f. alba
enjoy
Hans 8)
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now today after some days of cold and fog wether :
....... really Hans, in the banana belt? ;D
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David :
yes really ....since the day on which I made the pics of the bananas have we cold and ugly wether - today is the first day of this autuum that we use our chimney ...last nights we had 4 ° .... :o
I hope for better wether ;)
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Great Nerines, Hans.
The white cultivars always seem to be more difficult to grow here in Ireland. The more common Nerine bowdenii, the pink-flowered plant grows with great ease and increases very well. It is now just about to open in the garden.
Here is a red cultivar which is pot grown in the glasshouse.
Paddy
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Paddy ,
the reason for some problems with Nerines could be that some are summergrowing - and some wintergrowing
...p.e. N.lacticoma is summergrowing
and N.sarniensis is wintergrowing
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A spectacular white N. sarniensis there Hans and a very nice red Paddy.
What a surprise to return home and find so many flower stalks shooting up on the Nerines - mainly hand-pollinated crosses from Sir Peter Smithers. These were all cleaned up and repotted only a few weeks ago and seem firmly anchored already.
The flower is N. 'Fothergillii Major' - a tad more orange than as pictured.
Excuse the necklaces on the bulbs, it's the only way I've figured out to keep track of individual flower colours. Quite extraordinary to compare the colour from year to year and the sometimes inexplicable variation.
johnw
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John why not give them individual pots? What's going to happen when daughter bulbs appear in the pots?
This is the congestion after only two years
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John why not give them individual pots? What's going to happen when daughter bulbs appear in the pots?
Mark - I have about 35 pots with 6-25+ bulbs per pot. Do the math, if I repot them all into 4" pots which would be ideal there is simply not enough space in the greenhouse. I need a wealthy benefactor with a huge greenhouse! It's always a juggling act waiting for things to go dormant so they can be moved out and new emerging pots moved in.
johnw
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I grow mine in 2L pots and dread they day I'll need to repot and divide. Nerine roots are active all year and dont die back every year like, for example, Narcissus. My pots are already a mass of roots
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I grow mine in 2L pots and dread they day I'll need to repot and divide. Nerine roots are active all year and dont die back every year like, for example, Narcissus. My pots are already a mass of roots
Mark - I certainly can sympathize. To minimize bench space I even planted a few of the pots with two levels of bulbs. Mercifully there weren't too many with offsets. Nerines do seem to perform better if there is a bit of moisture in the pot bottoms throughout the dormant period to keep those roots alive. I may have mentioned before that I have even grown them in pure sand.
johnw
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I grow mine in 2L pots and dread they day I'll need to repot and divide. Nerine roots are active all year and dont die back every year like, for example, Narcissus. My pots are already a mass of roots
Mark - When I transplanted all the Nerines I had to remove the dead roots, clean off the old basal plates, remove some of the ancient bulb coats and sort through the live roots. It was extremely time consuming - every night for two weeks. I wonder if the summer before transplanting it might be wise to dry off all the roots and start afresh. It certainly would make the job a lot easier and they seem to make new roots quickly.
johnw
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I dont think it would be a good idea to dry the roots. Ian Young might have an opinion on this
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My first sarniensis, 'Harlequin' is now open and spot on last year's flowering date September 22nd
The leaves are coming on fast now also
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I dont think it would be a good idea to dry the roots. Ian Young might have an opinion on this
It would make replanting a lot easier, it was hell trying to deal with roots and many different sized bulbs per pot and keeping them upright while in-filling. When I first started growing nerines I routinely kept them bone-dry in the summertime and killed all the roots. They always re-bounded though in retrospect that may not have been ideal; they bloomed much later than they do these days.
Smashing 'Harlequin' there and new to me.
johnw
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John I can send you a bulbil next summer
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Mark - That would be great, I'll surely have something to offer for trade by then.
Getting ready for Hurricane Kyle and 100 mm of rain on the weekend. Time to move the Dahlia in so seed set is assured.
johnw
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Getting ready for Hurricane Kyle and 100 mm of rain on the weekend. Time to move the Dahlia in so seed set is assured.
johnw
sounds like it may be wise to move a lot of stuff "in", John! Hope Kyle passes without too much damage to you and yours.
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I havent seen Kyle mentioned yet on TV here
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This is my Nerine bowdenii 'Quinton Wells. It has been in flower about 3 weeks. It is very robust and the flower head is about 7 inches across
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Tony,
This is the species from Mont aux Sources (Lesotho probably) which I showed here at Sept. 11th.
It was predicated a ' hardy alpine bulb ' and indeed it is!
Gerd
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Gerd I do not know if it is the same plant as yours.I notice that yours has full leaf growth whilst mine is in flower with no leaves at all.I was given it a couple of years ago and do not know where it came from originally.I will try and find out. I have not tried it outdoors through the winter.
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Gerd I do not know if it is the same plant as yours.I notice that yours has full leaf growth whilst mine is in flower with no leaves at all.I was given it a couple of years ago and do not know where it came from originally.I will try and find out. I have not tried it outdoors through the winter.
Your reply gives me reason to quote extracts of a letter from Harry Hay which I received in
1995
.... Nerine bowdenii var. wellsii (was) orig collected Natal Drakensberg at top of Mont-aux-Sources .... (my plants are) from seeds sent, and collected by Prof. E. R. Delpierre in 1965.
Parent bulbs now 30 year old, and in good order, 100 % frost and wet hardy. They have been frozen solid day and night for as long as six weeks. ... My name is botanically correct ....
The name ' Quinton Wells ' is a nonsense and is no longer used in the U.K.
N. bowdenii var. wellsii is used to try and improve hardyness in the N. bowdenii complex.
P.S.: Plant N. B. v. wellsii bulbs with necks proud of the soil level
My plant developes leaves about the beginning of summer whether in a pot (which improves flowering) or planted outside. When in a pot I keep it cold and totally dry in winter after the leaves faded.
Gerd
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Gerd
thank you for that information.
I have spoken to my friend who gave me the bulb.
He tells me that it is now called N. bowdenii var wellsii in the RHS plantfinder.
Quinton Wells was a man who had a nursery near Oxford and why his name is attached to this form is a mystery.
He wonders how it can be a N. bowdenii when it is evergreen which bowdenii is not and the bulbs, and flower head are so much larger than that species. i am not getting into that discussion.
He also told me that his is evergreen and the reason mine is flowering with no leaves is because it is badly grown!!
Whatever the reason it is a super plant.
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He also told me that his is evergreen and the reason mine is flowering with no leaves is because it is badly grown!!
Tony,
Or you just have a different enough climate/microclimate so it goes dormant during summer. If it is growing and flowering I wouldn't change anything, regardless of whether or not someone says it is "badly grown". ;D
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Common Nerine bowdenii, but thy look great in the fine autumn weather.
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Hi all ,
now here sun and open flowers from
Nerine bowdenii v. wellsi ( thanks a nice forumist ;) )
Greetings
Hans
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The Nerines are going full tilt here and it seems we are in the pink and raspberry (this colour is much darker and more intense than as in the photos) phase aside from a few pinks with purplish centres. Whites are just coming on and what promises to be a good clear red.
The last pic is 'Mother of Pearl'
johnw
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I bought 'Mother of Pearl' at Wisley yesterday. I hope it's right because it was among the bulbs that were for sale
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I bought 'Mother of Pearl' at Wisley yesterday. I hope it's right because it was among the bulbs that were for sale
Mark - I can always send you an offset in the summer if it is not true. N. flexuosa 'Alba' and 'Early Snow' (not so early) are reliable whites and have plenty of those as well.
johnw
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Thanks John. I'll know in a few days, hopefully, because I selected bulbs already in growth. I also bought 'Rose Princess' and Purple Robbs'. The latter isnt purple but pink. All only £3 each. The Nerine display at Wisley was fantastic
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Purple Robes'. The latter isn't purple but pink.
I concur!
johnw
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Do you know this Nerine?
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Purple Robes'. The latter isn't purple but pink.
Another brilliant piece of naming ,then :P :-X >:(
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John some beautiful pictures.
Here is 'Stephanie' bought from the garden centre
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Do you know this Nerine?
Yes Purple Robe or Robes. Got it from Garden Imports in 1993 and expected a good strong purple, it was nothing to write home about - a pilly wally pinky lavender.
Just recalled another good white here is 'Solent Swan', not Swollen Swan as a friend had it labelled!
johnw
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My 'Stephanie' is just N. bowdenii >:(
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Lovely pictures John, can't imagine what fun the raspberry ones must be in reality! ;D
Am I the only one who thinks Stephanie is a bit disappointing? - washed out I'd say, or peely wally - (great phrase that one) - though some may call it delicate I'd go for insipid I think.
Sue
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Here is Nerine pudica. Along with N. sarniensis and N. humis it is a winter growing species. The flower stalks appear with leaves.
Alberto
Nerine pudica
Nerine humilis
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very nice pics of nerines !!!
Alberto : how big ( old ) are your N. humilis ? .....I have only two small seedlings :'(
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Hans, even flowering sized the bulbs are small, just up to 2 cm large.
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;) Alberto ,
thank you for this information ...there is hope :D
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If Stephanie is a white bowdenii (did I get you right Mark?) then it is something to prize.
I have never seen a white bowdenii for sale in North America.
I see Broadleigh lists a 'Marnie Rogerson' which looks a very nice soft pink. I wonder if it too is a bowdenii?
http://www.broadleighbulbs.co.uk/images/spring/miscnp/nerinemarnier.jpg
A chilly +8C and drizzling here.
johnw
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My 'Stephanie' is just N. bowdenii >:(
Mark
I do not understand your post. Are you saying your 'Stephanie' is wrong or mine is just a white bowdenii?
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Alberto,
I find your Nerine pudica fascinating..... same colour and markings as mine, but mine never opens out flat like that..... I've always thought that N. pudica remains tubular, or has semi-fused petals. Mine does this consistently year after year, so obviously the clone we have here (The only versions of this species I have seen here all look like this) is malformed (but if so I most definitely like it! ;D). I was surprised to see yours the shape it is........ with exactly the colours of mine. Does yours ever set seed? If so and you have any spare I would be very interested in trying it to see whether it is something in the conditions here that make the flowers not open properly, or whether it is genetic. Mine has very rarely set any seed at all, but my recollection is that I have seedlings from a friend's plant that flower in exactly the same form as her and my parent plants. Very strange!? ???
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Paul, I am sorry but my plants have never set seeds. Reading you it raised a doubt, so I compared my flowers with the ones pictured on the book by Graham Duncan, Grow Nerines: they are the same as mine.
Now I have N. pudica from another source, but they have not flowered until now, I'll let you know how they will be.
Ciao
Alberto
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The bulbs in my packet of 'Stephanie' look like they are bowdenii
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Here's a couple from my collection of N. sarniensis. They are doing very bad this year with an obvious lack of flowers probably as a result of the poor summer this year
'Alba' brought inside for a photo
'Alba' photographed outside in the green house
'Atlanta'
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This should be Stephanie
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Poul this is my 'Stephanie'
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Here's a few more sarniensis from the collection
'Amethyst Delight' - 3 photos
'Nan' - two different backgrounds
'Quest' - my camera hates this plant for some reason. 18 photos but only 1 just OK to show
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Poul this is my 'Stephanie'
Mark,
Isn't that a quite dark Stephanie, or have you used some kind of filter on your camera ;)
Poul
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Poul it's wrong. The bulbs in my packet of 'Stephanie' are N. bowdenii just proving that suppliers never run out of a bulb
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Poul it's wrong. The bulbs in my packet of 'Stephanie' are N. bowdenii just proving that suppliers never run out of a bulb
Mark,
I knew, I was just joking. You take beautiful pictures!
By the way, some times it can be difficult to tell a joke (and be understand) in a forreign language, so please be patient with my way of expressing in English.
Poul
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I knew, I was just joking. You take beautiful pictures!
By the way, some times it can be difficult to tell a joke (and be understand) in a foreign language, so please be patient with my way of expressing in English.
Poul
Poul, I would not be too worried about expressing yourself in English.... believe me, we English Speakers can have PLENTY trouble understanding eachotherso we have great sympathy with you non-native speakers!! ;) :-*
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No my fault. I looked in very briefly and responded with out seeing the smiley. All those on the forum who speak English as a second language do so very well putting us to shame
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Smashing shots Mark, especially 'Nan'.
I have just about given up trying to photograph Nerines, my camera hates them all.
Had a wonderful true red bloom last week, an exceptional colour but only 2 flowers in the truss - maybe more next year. Also a very dark purple with an dark pink (almost red) centre. An attempt at a photo...but is much darker.
johnw - +8c and showers
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Nerine crispa - bulbs bought from a garden centre earlier in the year. A nice small plant & flower.
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Poul, I would not be too worried about expressing yourself in English.... believe me, we English Speakers can have PLENTY trouble understanding eachotherso we have great sympathy with you non-native speakers!! ;) :-*
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Thanks Maggie!
This forum is very friendly and I would like to keep it that way. The Danish people has a reputation of being rude among foreign people. In fact we are not, but we are often very direct in our communication and that is not always appreciated. I am aware of that, and I try to avoid any misunderstandings.
Regards
Poul
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A few Nerine seedlings here today. The Coolpix seems to be much better with Nerines on Auto Close-up.
1 - dark purple - close to the colour but should be even darker.
2 - same but in focus but colour faded
3 - strong pink
4 - attempt at the red - colour off but getting close
5 - Early Snow
6 - light orange
7 - bi-colour
8 - light pink
9 - another attempt at the red - colour off but getting close
johnw
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Lastly a light red which seems impossible to get right.
johnw
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John :o
what a fantastic collection !!!
Best wishes
Hans
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John, what a fantastic display! Really great!
Alberto
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A few Nerine seedlings here today.
johnw
A few! Then I would like to see them all.
As they are seedlings you must have lots of experience with germination time.
Early this spring I sowed some fresh bowdenii seeds, but so far none have germinated. When can I expect them? I have planned to keep the pot under cold glass (+2 degree) this winter - or is it better to keep them warmer?
Poul
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Poul - It has been quite awhile since I sprouted Nerine seed but can recall they oftentimes send out roots while still in the pod. When I received seed from Smithers own hand-pollinated crosses many had sent out roots in the envelope. Hopefully they were fully ripe when you harvested your seed. N. bowdenii being hardy may be slower to germinate than sarniensis, it would be rather unwise of them to sprout at the onset of winter (though winter in their native haunts may be survivable). I am sure you will see roots before too long. Maybe others can comment on bowdenii as I haven't grown any from seed.
I would like to document all the Nerines here but the collection is hard to move about to photograph when they are all in bloom .... it gets very hazardous moving them.
Still plenty more to bloom and will shoot some of the better ones.
Should I save some seed for interested parties?
johnw
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Early this spring I sowed some fresh bowdenii seeds, but so far none have germinated. When can I expect them? I have planned to keep the pot under cold glass (+2 degree) this winter - or is it better to keep them warmer?
Poul
Poul,
Freshly gathered bowdenii seed sown in sand last November/December all germinated for me under cold glass, but sporadically between about February and June as far as I can remember. They remained in growth through our cool 'summer' and are now putting out more leaves. Meanwhile the parent plants flowering in the garden are without leaves. In my limited experience they seem easy but it may be important to keep the seeds from drying out before planting.
What a great display John!
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Ashley - That's very interesting, we of course never get seed on the outdoor bowdeniis here. Either winter comes too early for them to ripen or someone steals the flowers. I guess it makes perfect sense that the hardy species would have the good sense to wait until spring to sprout.
N. bowdenii is not out yet here. I see you collected seed in November (?); when does it bloom there?
johnw
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John,
I would be VERY interested in some seed from your wonderful nerines. I have a bunch of named ones, but never manage to set any seed on them at all. The species however set seed freely, so I don't know what gives. :o Would love to try a nice "lucky dip" to see what flowers resulted from seed from you, given how wonderful the pics you've just posted are.
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Should I save some seed for interested parties?
Yes, please. I am very interested. Until last year I have only grown bowdenii, but now I have some sarniensis and I would like to try some of your beautiful hybrids.
Poul
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Johnw you should use a plain pale grey background when photographing the Nerines
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N. bowdenii is not out yet here. I see you collected seed in November (?); when does it bloom there?
John - bowdenii has been flowering here since the beginning of the month, after which seeds should develop quickly. My memory is hazy :P but at latest I think I collected and sowed seed last year in December or the beginning of January.
Poul, I'll save you some seed if you want.
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Mark - Smithers used black backgrounds and that worked well too.
johnw
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Here is Nerine filifolia,
flowers reliably in late autumn
Gerd
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Gerd - Is your N. filifolia in a pot or outside in the ground?
There seems to be a mix up in the trade here with undulata and crispa (which I can't find in the Nerine book). I must get mine properly labelled when they bloom in a few days.
N. bowdenii outdoors is still not opening. Hopefully there will be no frost before it opens, so far so good.
johnw
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Gerd - Is your N. filifolia in a pot or outside in the ground?
johnw
It was only taken outside to have a better background for the pic.
(seeds from var. wellsii are developing - but slowly)
Gerd
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Gerd - Thanks. I too had some Nerines outside yesterday while insulating the greenhouse for winter. Tried a few shots but wasn't pleased with them except for one or two (with blotting paper background).
1) The mess outside
2) Nerine Peter Smithers cross#15 = {['David Lionel' x 'Hirault 81h'] x 23437a} - my selection #1 (#1 is code only not necessarily the best)
3) this received as N. undulata - What do you think?
johnw
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Poul, I'll save you some seed if you want.
Ashley,
Thank you for the offer, but this year my bowdenii has flowered early and seed pods are developping now. With a little luck I get plenty of seeds.
Some of my bowdenii are in pots, and when it gets cold, I place them under glass to ensure the seeds ripens fully.
Poul
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1) The mess outside
johnw
What a colourful mess, especially in autumn!
Gerd
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1) The mess outside
johnw
What a colourful mess, especially in autumn!
Gerd
Two minds with but a single thought, Gerd! That is precisely what I thought when enjoying the picture.
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Hi at all,
great to see all these Nerine pictures, especially those dark flowering ones.
With the help of the pictures I can say that my `Mystery White Nerine“seems to be `Stephanie“ - like Mark I got it as bowdenii.
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Renate,
Your mystery white isn't just Nerine flexuosa alba is it? That pops up all over the place here in gardens as it has been around in Australia for a long time. Usually anyone with an unknown white has that, but you of course aren't in Australia. :)
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A few more Nerines in bloom here. Some of the colours may not be to everyone's taste but at least they are later than many of the other catchy ones. One good dark one there.
johnw
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Some of the colours may not be to everyone's taste
ooh, yes, well.... 6913 is a bit iffy! :P Love the others though... had no idea that one as dark and rich as that last one was even in existence! 8)
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John,
An excellent selection and I am surprised at the range of colours not having seen this lilac shade previously. The one with the burgundy colouring is very nice, I think.
Paddy
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The first Nerine sarniensis in bloom here.
Nerine sarniensis ?
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Oh! What a colorful flowers - great selection! I suppose that this is Nerine bowdenii or...maybe sarniensis.. ?
(I think that Nerine sarniensis has longer stamens but I am not sure)
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Nerine bowdenii just opened late last week, the sole survivor planted close to the house foundation. This one may be a selection known as 'Pink Triumph', rather large this year thanks perhaps to Ian's suggestion of Potash drenches. One more stalk getting ready to bloom but a strong frost cannot be far off.
Lusting for all those colour forms Luit showed at Lisse.
I understand Pink triumph might be bowdenii x sarniensis so it can't be that. I wonder if anyone can compare it with 'Fenwick's Variety' which I have never seen over here.
johnw
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Maggi I thought you said on Saturday that you had a Nerine that was worth photographing?
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Indeed I do, Shelagh, but the weather has been dull and then when the sun shone today I was otherwise engaged... I hope to get the camera to it tomorrow. As I told you, I do not know the name of the variety.... I hope someone here will help ???
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As the weather is bad in Denmark, the Nerine bowdenii pots have found some shelter in the greenhouse. They are not pretty anymore but seed pods are developing. Outside all Nerine flowers have been destroyed by frost :(
My first Nerine sarniensis has opened
Poul
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"Maggi I thought you said on Saturday that you had a Nerine that was worth photographing?"
Indeed I do, Shelagh, but the weather has been dull and then when the sun shone today I was otherwise engaged... I hope to get the camera to it tomorrow. As I told you, I do not know the name of the variety.... I hope someone here will help
Have just nipped out to the garden before the rain starts to photograph this mystery nerine.......
does anyone recognise the variety? The stem and petioles are very dark, almost black....
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Maggi are you taking the P? If that truely is the flower head I hope you get in chipped next year because I want one bad!
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Maggi - I stare at this one in utter disbelief.
Where on earth did you get it?
I think I have recorded 11 flowers in a head but I can't even count them on yours.
And is it hardy? If so that limits the possibilities all of which elude me. N. bowdenii and N. krigei are the only ones I have heard of surviving frost. Could it be a bi-generic hybrid?
Chip, chip, chip and self.
johnw - might have the first good frost tonight on the coast.
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"Maggi I thought you said on Saturday that you had a Nerine that was worth photographing?"
Indeed I do, Shelagh, but the weather has been dull and then when the sun shone today I was otherwise engaged... I hope to get the camera to it tomorrow. As I told you, I do not know the name of the variety.... I hope someone here will help
Have just nipped out to the garden before the rain starts to photograph this mystery nerine.......
does anyone recognise the variety? The stem and petioles are very dark, almost black....
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Maggi,
Could it be Nerine iMAGGInation flore pleno? ;)
Poul
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I like it Poul, the comment as well as the Nerine.
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Hmmm Maggi.... if that is for real there could be a couple of possibilities.....
1. you have an absolute stunner there, well worth keeping track of.
2. Fasciation has produced a "super stalk" that may never happen again (not common in Amaryllidaceae as far as I know, but not impossible).
3. There is Brunsvigia parentage somewhere in whatever it is, and that has resulted in the higher flower count.
If it isn't a joke (as you HAVE been known to perpetrate on occasions :P), then I'd be monitoring it to see whether it always flowers this prolifically. Great looking plant if it always does this. Particularly with darker stems and that flower colour.
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Paul - Funny you should say that as I went through Cape Bulbs last night, page by page trying to find a match...I kept going back to Brunsvigia and wondering if there weren't similarities, how hardy they are and would they cross with Nerine.
I scratched my head and then it came to me - I bet that was once on Maggi's summer Ascot hat!
And next these will be some of Ian's latest Croci.
johnw
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These are no Nerines! See topic!
The left one is ' Begonia sutherlandii ' ;D
Gerd
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The left one is ' Begonia sutherlandii '
I think you are correct there, Gerd.... well spotted.... good large flowered form though, is it not?? ;D ;D
Okay, I'll come clean, I was just testing /teasing you folks..... got to keep you on your toes and make sure you are paying attention........
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here is my "nerine".......a synthetic flower, certainly Nerine iMAGGInation .....I bought it on the day of the SRGC AGM.... just thought it looked so magnificent in shape and colour that anyone would be proud to have grown it. You'll see fom this pic that it is quite a size.......... hoped that photographing it outside in a natural setting would fool you.... but I must say, you're too sharp for me... well done! :-*
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:D :D :D :D :D
Well done Maggi ! ;D
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The left one is ' Begonia sutherlandii ' ;D
Gerd
A tetraploid perhaps?
johnw
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Maggi
This will not be forgotten. Most embarassing! It's right up there with the time I sent a squad of magnolia enthusiasts to a house where I had seen an extremely early flowering magnolia in bloom from a great distance. When they approached the tree they found half eggshells painted pink and poked on the ends of all the twigs. Some miserable kid celebrating a March Easter.
johnw
PS: If anyone knows of a source for a box of plastic chocolates please send me a PM.
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Oh, dear, John, forgive me :-*..... I thought, too, that the photo was very convincing..... ::)
Just love the idea of the eggshell magnolia, by the way.....[attach=1]
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Maggi - It was a great prank, no need for apologies.
There are only 2 or 3 members in our local society who might remember my eggshell goof. They have been silent for 20 years now.
johnw
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PS: If anyone knows of a source for a box of plastic chocolates
Since you mention it......http://cgi.ebay.com/Fake-Food-13pc-Chocolates_W0QQitemZ250322089559QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item250322089559&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
::) ;D
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Thanks Maggi but I was thinking more of Belgian varieties.
I still wonder how they managed to cut eggshells in half.
johnw
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Noticed in The Plantsman this month, report on the Hardy Nerine Study Day
http://www.rhs.org.uk/search.asp?cx=001028320879528436250%3Amuoqgpag6tk&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=Report+of+the+proceedings+of+a+Hardy+Nerine+Study+Day&sa=SEARCH#233
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Dear John
The nerine (OBS not nerium :-[) arrived safely today ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks a lot :D
As the saying goes no good deed should go unpunished so now my question do people generally put the seed in a pot and then directly put it outside in 5-15C our do people first let it germinate in doors at 15C. I would prefare if it would be possible to put it outside immediately but I sure do not want to lose the nice seeds so if not possible I would keep them inside.
Thanks again for the seeds 8) and hope to get some info on what to do.
It feels like Christmas already 8) :o
Kind regards
Joakim
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To answer my own question based on the following website
http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantnop/nerinesarnien.htm
It would be to plant outside in a well drained compost.
Sorry if it sounded as I were not happy with my seeds. I am very happy! The part of no good deed goes unpunished was because I needed more help and the answer of how to sow would be the "punishment".
The temperatures are the temperatures I have rather than temperatures to aim for.
Hope I have cleared any mess I made :-[
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joackim - Glad the seeds arrived okay. The site you posted says to keep them dry in summer, actually they are better off with a tad of water every few weeks when dormant just to keep the roots alive. Generally with the seeds you water from the bottom and keep the top part of the mix a bit dry so the roots go down deeply.
Good luck.
johnw
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Thanks for the added information John as well as the seeds
I will try to follow the advice.
kind regards
Joakim
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Only when actually doing the sowing will all the questions show up.
How many seeds in a 6x6 cm pot? if only 2% generally germinate then I will have more but if 75-100% germinate then I will have less. Anyone with experience?.
The seeds are green and not at all shivered or dried if You get what I am trying to say.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Only when actually doing the sowing will all the questions show up.
How many seeds in a 6x6 cm pot? if only 2% generally germinate then I will have more but if 75-100% germinate then I will have less. Anyone with experience?.
The seeds are green and not at all shivered or dried if You get what I am trying to say.
Hi Joakim,
what I do is prepare a seedpot with free draining potting mix (usually a commercial mix with added grit) then cover the surface with more grit (about 1/4 inch). The seeds are sown directly onto the grit and ARE NOT BURIED; they can be spaced quite closely. The radicals will emerge from the seed and penetrate into the potting medium. In my experience buried seeds tend to rot and not germinate.
cheers
fermi
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Thanks for the reply Fermi.
Sorry for not replying before. I had already planted them and I did bury them a bit but used the same mix as you.
I hope they will not rot and I will have a look now to see if they need to be moved.
I planted a lot in each pot so I hope that helps against the rot.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hello!
This Nerine flowered last year in my collection. It was collected somewhere in S-Africa. Can anybody of you tell me what it can be?
thank you!
massonia
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I'm far from an expert but have had a quick look at the PBS Wiki-could it be this http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/Nerine/Nerine_gibsonii_CM.jpg
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yes, gibsonii was also my suggestion ;) - thank you for your confirmation!
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Update on the sowing of Nerine
I sowed in a mix of sand and soil with a little extra sand on the top. Most of the seeds where in the top but some where put down a bit in the mix.
This was done in November/december and it has been a "cold winter with low temperatures and only recently it has been above 15 degrees celsius for longer periods and last week it was above 15C also at nights so there have been some germination in the pot.
At first it almost looked like grass but looking at the pics make hope it is Nerines. There are in the second picture a "fatter" leaf that might be the real thing and the rest just weed but I hope all are the real deal but I would like to be advised if I am wrong or if I have a lot of small Nerines coming along.
Once again thanks for the seeds :) 8)
All the best
Joakim
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They certainly look like nerine seedlings to me Joackim. I planted Gerd's Nerine bowdenii v. wellsii in the autumn and after a long wait a few came up and then more kept germinating for 2 months. Now I have over thirty vigorous little plants. Hopefully they will be hardy.
I saw N. bowdenii Stephanie bulbs for sale at Jacques Amand's booth at the RHS. Didn't risk taking them back, silly me.
johnw
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Massonia,
My first thought on seeing your white unknown with the pink stripe was Nerine pudica. Looks very similar anyway.
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John Thanks for the input :)
They look well so I hope I will get some of them into blooming size some day 8)
Kind regards
Joakim