Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Alberto on August 23, 2008, 04:59:30 PM
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Hi all, in these days after a really hot summer and a lot of artificial rain, I have this hybrid blooming. Usually I do not like hybrids, but this is one of a few exceptions...
It is an old hybrid created in UK around 1880's, H. reticulatum var. striatifolium x H. 'Defiance'. 4-6 flowers each floral scape, two scapes per bulb. It is evergreen with a white stripe in the middle of the strape-shaped leaves.
Alberto
Italy
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Alberto,
great - there is someone who has a flowering `Mrs Garfield´!!!
Is it true that there is a difference in the middelstripe of the leafes to the leafes of H.ret.var.striatifolium?
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Renate, the white stripe is defined in reticulatum var. striatifolium, while in Mrs. Garfield the color is like a fade. The shape of the leaves is different, in Mrs. Garfield it is like the common Hippeastrum, in the species the leaves are a bit oblanceolate.
Alberto
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:o :o :o
What a great plant, Alberto!
Is this the standard flowering time ???
My Hippeastrums are all flowering in January - March!
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Ciao Alberto,
a wunderful flower. :D
I agree with Thomas. Is this the normal flowering time?
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:o :o :o
What a great plant, Alberto!
Is this the standard flowering time ???
My Hippeastrums are all flowering in January - March!
Thomas - H. striatum just finished here. It blooms every 2 months in a good year (not one bulb but mulitple bulbs in a pot). Never allowed to dry out.
johnw
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Hi Thomas, this is the right season for reticulatum, indeed from now onwards. Just a little period with less watering at the end of spring!
Here is the picture to show the leaves: on the left the leaf of Mrs. Garfield,on the right the one of reticulatum var. striatifolium.
Alberto
Italy
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Alberto ,
It seems I have also both ( H.'Mrs. Garfield' + H. ret. striatifolium )
here is a pic of the leaves from today :
do you agree with me me above is H.'Mrs. Garfield ' ( bought on Ebay )
and below is H. ret. striatifolium ( from a friend received ) ???
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Hans, looking at the leaves of your bulbs they do not look the real striatifolium, almost with me.
Sincerely
Alberto
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Alberto ,
Thank you for your opinion ....but what is it ?
Do you agree that the leave above is Mrs. Garfield ?
Thank you
Hans
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Hi all. Hans J. asked me at the flowering time to pollinate my Hipp. Mrs. Garfield to see what the seeds look like. After one month the last pod yellowed and fallen without complete ripening. But I open it and the seeds I can say they look just like the flat ones of the commonest Hippeastrum and not pea like as in H. reticulatum or in Eithea blumenavia (syn. H. blumenavium). I'd like to know if the shape of seeds is enough to separate in different genera!
Ciao
Alberto
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Oh, what a beauty. :o
Is there anyone who can tell me where to get seeds?
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As it is an hybrid it is impossible to get seeds. I had the bulbs from Thailand, purchasing on ebay. I think it is not the right time now!
Alberto
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Hi Anne ,
You could ask for bulbs of Hipp. 'Mrs. Garfield' our member Renate Brinkers !
Best wishes
Hans
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Wohoooo!!! ;D
I thought that mine was Mrs. Garfiled, but now that i see the difference of both, i guess it is the species, as the leaves are highly oblanceolate, and the stripe on the center is white, and not faded! :D :D
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Michael :
the only safe way to say this is to wait for seeds ;D
I have seen only one time real seeds of H. reticulatum v. striatifloium -they really impressiv : litte black ,round fleshy seeds .
Greetings
Hans
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Hi Anne ,
You could ask for bulbs of Hipp. 'Mrs. Garfield' our member Renate Brinkers !
Best wishes
Hans
Norway requires a phytosanitary certificate for bulbs. It is easier with seeds.
But I have found seeds of Hippeastrum reticulatum striatifolium
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While in Goa at a cousin's house for dinner one night last week, I noticed an interesting plant in the garden. Unfortunately it needed the flash for the pic which has washed out the colour a bit.
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I presume it's "Mrs Garfield" but would never have realised it except for this thread!
cheers
fermi
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Well Hans, at least you have seen those seeds... I never have seen them :D
I shall wait for seeds from my own plant to see if it is the true thing or not. I wonder why the seeds of this one are so different from the rest of the genus Hippeastrum...
Fermi, very nice clump, to get one colony of those from a single bulb i guess it might take decades!
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Fermi, your cousi has very good taste in plants.... though I would have guessed that, of course!!
From the leaves, though, and guided purely by the previous pix and words on this thread....I would have thought that this was more Hippeastrum reticulatum striatifolium than 'Mrs Garfield'.... the white stripe looks very definite and the leaves more elongated ???????? The plant is bigger/taller, than I expected.... very nice indeed!!
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Beautiful, Fermi. Such a shame you couldn't bring one home for yourself. ::) Maybe they can keep an eye out for seed? Would be well worth it for those leaves alone by the look of it.
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Hi fermi,
an impressive clump of great plants. Maybe you can visit them again when they set seed.
I am so courious to see the seed of mine - when they flower again. Last year they flowered but didn´t setted seed.
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This is mine (still hoping for the true thing! ;D )
On the second picture you can see an old leaf, that unfortunately got sunburnt before i had moved the plant to a more shady spot. And it is oblanceolate, like Alberto told the true species was, and these new leaves when stop growing will look like that one. But still... waiting for the flowers AND seeds!
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/Jindegales/December20083_0010.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/Jindegales/December20083_0013.jpg)
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Hi Michael:
This species can live perfectly in shade but demand high temperatures. The reason why seeds are round is that there are very few ovules in the ovary. At one time it was thought to be in some other genus.
It is also unusual in being summer dormant, very few species have this behaviour. It flowers naturally in autumn, at the beginning of the cycle.
Regards
Alberto
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Thanks Alberto, i will keep it hot and steamy then inside the greenhouse :)