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Title: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Yann on January 03, 2022, 06:04:12 PM
First of the season, Narcissus grandae, sown 11/2016 from Rafa's seeds.
Sweet perfume to start the new year.

https://daffnet.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Narcissus-x-barrae-and-Narcissus-grandae.pdf
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on January 05, 2022, 06:23:34 AM
Interesting seedlings originated from natural hybrid, Yann :)
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on January 05, 2022, 06:36:45 AM
Happy New Year!

2 narcissus sedlings bred by me :)
Their parentage is Narcissus romieuxii × N. ‘初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on January 05, 2022, 03:47:58 PM
Happy New Year!

2 narcissus seedlings bred by me :)
Their parentage is Narcissus romieuxii × N. ‘初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’

Very lovely new narcissus!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on January 16, 2022, 06:58:21 PM
Happy New Year!

2 narcissus sedlings bred by me :)
Their parentage is Narcissus romieuxii × N. ‘初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’
They are very lovely - the first one is very special with the lobed and frilled corona. What does N. ‘初雪’ look like?
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on January 16, 2022, 07:34:29 PM
They are very lovely - the first one is very special with the lobed and frilled corona. What does N. ‘初雪’ look like?

 A translation site showed me that the name refers to "first snow" so I was guessing a good white- so I did a Forum search, and yes, it is! See YT's other photos from previous years ....
https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12513.msg319846#msg319846

https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13802.msg345711#msg345711

https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14929.msg368996#msg368996
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Gerdk on January 18, 2022, 04:42:26 PM
Narcissus hedraeanthus flowers since 2 weeks !

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on January 19, 2022, 02:20:58 PM
They are very lovely - the first one is very special with the lobed and frilled corona. What does N. ‘初雪’ look like?

Thank you, Anne!

A translation site showed me that the name refers to "first snow" so I was guessing a good white- so I did a Forum search, and yes, it is! See YT's other photos from previous years ....

Thank you for your helpful support as usual, Maggi!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on January 19, 2022, 02:28:52 PM
Narcissus hedraeanthus flowers since 2 weeks !

Gerd

What a long lasting flower, Gerd.
I'm challenging to grow this tiny species but looks I have to wait its flower until next season.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: David2carver on January 21, 2022, 05:54:04 PM
First year flowering, sad looking cantabricus flower. Badly deformed I think

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Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on January 21, 2022, 07:37:56 PM
Don't be downcast, David, lots of first flowers of bulbs tend to be a bit squiffy - other new plants too, for that matter. In future years it'll probably be gorgeous.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on January 30, 2022, 07:13:44 PM
The "real" Narcissus romieuxii "Julia Jane"
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on January 30, 2022, 07:15:55 PM
A very good plant for the rockery is this hybrid Narcissus bulbocodium genuinus x Narcissus albidus ssp. albidus.
A good dark colour and flowering over a long period.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on January 30, 2022, 08:33:21 PM
A translation site showed me that the name refers to "first snow" so I was guessing a good white- so I did a Forum search, and yes, it is! See YT's other photos from previous years ....
https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12513.msg319846#msg319846

https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13802.msg345711#msg345711

https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14929.msg368996#msg368996

Sumptuous isn't it? But its hybrid is even lovelier.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on January 30, 2022, 08:34:17 PM
First year flowering, sad looking cantabricus flower. Badly deformed I think

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Maggi is correct - don't give up on it!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on January 30, 2022, 08:35:15 PM
A very good plant for the rockery is this hybrid Narcissus bulbocodium genuinus x Narcissus albidus ssp. albidus.
A good dark colour and flowering over a long period.
Is that in flower now, Luc? What a beautiful display!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on January 30, 2022, 08:51:57 PM
Is that in flower now, Luc? What a beautiful display!
Yes
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on January 31, 2022, 08:15:04 PM
Our hoops have been scenting the greenhouse for a few weeks. What a joy they are while we wait for the trumpets!
Narcissus Columba, Kalyke, Elara and an unnamed one.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on January 31, 2022, 08:16:41 PM
The lovely Japanese 'Shiraume' (thank you Tatsuo) and the icy white of N. cantabricus subsp cantabricus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 06:50:14 PM
Narcissus yepesii (JJA708100)

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Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 06:51:20 PM
Narcissus albidus x romieuxii (seedlings ex SF110)

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Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 06:54:24 PM
A close-up of a very fragrant flower of Narcissus tazetta ssp. italicus PB178
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 02, 2022, 03:42:51 PM
The lovely Japanese 'Shiraume' (thank you Tatsuo) and the icy white of N. cantabricus subsp cantabricus

Thank you for sharing 'Shiraume' photos, Anne! I've already found photos of 'Shiraume' on Twitter this season ;)
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 02, 2022, 03:52:29 PM
A very good plant for the rockery is this hybrid Narcissus bulbocodium genuinus x Narcissus albidus ssp. albidus.
A good dark colour and flowering over a long period.

So many beautiful daffs, Luc! Your early flowering deep yellow hybrid hoop is my favorite.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 02, 2022, 04:17:38 PM
A floriferous Narcissus ‘Craigton Clumper’ and one of my seedlings from N. romieuxii ‘Julia Jane’ × N.初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 04, 2022, 06:51:45 PM
A floriferous Narcissus ‘Craigton Clumper’ and one of my seedlings from N. romieuxii ‘Julia Jane’ × N.初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’
A very  nice seedling !
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 04, 2022, 06:52:49 PM
Narcissus perez-chiscanoi MS560

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Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 05, 2022, 02:23:44 PM
Another seedling selected from Narcissus romieuxii ‘Julia Jane’ × N.初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’ and its parents - JJ and 初雪(Hatsuyuki).
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 08, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
narcissus cyclamineus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 08, 2022, 07:51:03 PM
A few others in flower as well.
Narcissus albimarginatus from Marocco
Narcissus papyraceus subsp. polyanthos
Narcissus albidus subsp. albidus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 08, 2022, 09:52:19 PM
A floriferous Narcissus ‘Craigton Clumper’ and one of my seedlings from N. romieuxii ‘Julia Jane’ × N.初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’
What a remarkable seedling! Is it a chimera? I wonder if it is stable - is it the first time it has flowered? Questions, questions....
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 08, 2022, 09:58:32 PM
Another seedling selected from Narcissus romieuxii ‘Julia Jane’ × N.初雪 (Hatsuyuki)’ and its parents - JJ and 初雪(Hatsuyuki).

You are getting some wonderful things from that cross. I crossed Shiraume with Tethys and am awaiting results  :)
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 10, 2022, 05:48:46 AM
What a remarkable seedling! Is it a chimera? I wonder if it is stable - is it the first time it has flowered? Questions, questions....

Thanks, Anne!
Yes, I think its is a sectorial chimera. The sectorial chimera is unstable as you know...
And yes again, the seedling bloomed the chimera flower first time. The plant showed first flower in 2019 and put plain pale cream flowers since then.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 11, 2022, 05:14:40 AM
Outside in the rockgarden
Narcissus minor subsp. brevicoronatus
Narcissus asturiensis
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 11, 2022, 11:14:13 AM
Wonderful little clumps! Do you have slugs or snails? They would eat all the flowers if I planted out into the garden.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: LucS on February 11, 2022, 05:06:46 PM
Wonderful little clumps! Do you have slugs or snails? They would eat all the flowers if I planted out into the garden.
Well, we eat the f** snales
No problem for narcissus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 14, 2022, 07:41:20 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 14, 2022, 07:47:48 PM
Narcissus Minicycla has a lot to answer for! It was not being able to buy this little daffodil that made me start hybridising way back in 1988. In true Yorkshire fashion, if I couldn't buy it, I would make it myself! My very first attempt at hybridising is still with me - seedling number 330, 34 years old and looking great.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 14, 2022, 07:52:04 PM
Some more recent varieties -
Angelina is very early to flower, competing with Little Finn.
I think I may have overdone things a little with Pallene - the flower is HUGE!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 14, 2022, 07:57:07 PM
The species are not forgotten - the first photo is a selected clone from seed ex 'tananicus' which I don't think is a valid name. Lovely anyway.
Narcissus bulbocodium graellsii - single clone
Narcissus romieuxii FS 26/1 in its best flowering ever.
Narcissus zaianicus lutescens x cantabricus
The wonderful 'organ pipes' of N. romieuxii rifanus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 14, 2022, 08:01:54 PM
A couple of varieties from Brian Duncan - Punk at only 10cm high, a really cute little daffodil.
Galantoquilla is the one Brian calls his 'snowdrop daffodil' - similar habit and size and flowering time to snowdrops.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 14, 2022, 08:36:07 PM
Narcissus cantabricus petunioides – possibly my favourite form of N. cantabricus.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Gerdk on February 15, 2022, 09:04:34 AM
The species are not forgotten - the first photo is a selected clone from seed ex 'tananicus' which I don't think is a valid name. Lovely anyway.
Narcissus bulbocodium graellsii - single clone
Narcissus romieuxii FS 26/1 in its best flowering ever.
Narcissus zaianicus lutescens x cantabricus
The wonderful 'organ pipes' of N. romieuxii rifanus

Very nice selection! Especially the distinctive flowers of the rifanus variety are great!
Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 19, 2022, 05:00:33 PM
They are all appealing, Anne!
1988, the year you started the career as a daffodil breeder, reminds me Kylie Minogue - I Should Be So Lucky.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on February 19, 2022, 05:09:46 PM
Narcissus ‘Tethys’
A generous friend of mine sent me the bulbs in 2017 ;)
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Mike Ireland on February 19, 2022, 05:25:18 PM
Wonderful narcissus everyone, not many around my garden or greenhouse, past problems with narcissus fly.

Will have to try again.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Yann on February 19, 2022, 10:35:56 PM
Narcissus bulbocodium survived the storm, a bit late this year.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 20, 2022, 09:37:13 AM
I'm surprised the narcissus and galanthus still have flowers attached!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on February 20, 2022, 09:38:44 AM
Narcissus ‘Tethys’
A generous friend of mine sent me the bulbs in 2017 ;)
If only mine would be so compact! They look especially nice gown by you.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Matt T on March 03, 2022, 05:55:43 PM
An exciting discovery was made today, amongst some seedlings grown from seed collected off N. jacetanus and sown in September 2015. This was most unexpected and quite lovely. I suspect a cross with N. ‘Candlepower’. There are two more seedlings coming up to flower, so we’ll see what they produce.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on March 06, 2022, 10:02:58 PM
A cutie with its mother's frilly trumpet!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Matt T on March 12, 2022, 02:51:03 PM
Two more seedlings in the same pot have open their flowers. One is typical of N. jacentanus, but the other is also pale like it’s sibling. However, this one is probably a better form (from the shower’s perspective) as the tepals are not twisted.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on March 15, 2022, 03:17:01 PM
How lucky you've got that tiny white trumpet, Matt!
Please add my name on the waiting list ;)
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: YT on March 15, 2022, 03:22:20 PM
Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720, “almost certainly originating in Morocco”
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2022, 04:46:25 PM
Narcissus tazetta 'Hoopoe'
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2022, 04:48:17 PM
Narcissus ‘Tête à Tête'
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2022, 04:49:28 PM
Narcissus cyclamineus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Matt T on March 16, 2022, 12:18:13 AM
How lucky you've got that tiny white trumpet, Matt!
Please add my name on the waiting list ;)

Thanks Tatsuo! Luck and a little bit of work by the bees. Hopefully I can nurture it and bulk it up.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Matt T on March 16, 2022, 12:19:26 AM
Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720, “almost certainly originating in Morocco”

Beautiful and so compact. Ours grow about five times taller here with our poor light levels.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on March 17, 2022, 10:07:51 PM
Two more seedlings in the same pot have open their flowers. One is typical of N. jacentanus, but the other is also pale like it’s sibling. However, this one is probably a better form (from the shower’s perspective) as the tepals are not twisted.
Some little gems there, Matt!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on March 17, 2022, 10:08:35 PM
Narcissus cyclamineus
Very happy group!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on March 24, 2022, 12:00:45 PM
News from Plant Heritage:
The Narcissus (Backhouse)  National Plant Collection has been awarded for the detailed research the Collection Holders have undertaken, from contributing to medical research to international field studies.

"Caroline Thomson has worked tirelessly over the last two decades researching and trialling the Backhouse daffodils which has resulted in discovering several lost varieties, her collection being accredited as a National Plant Collection in 2016, her family commended by the Houses of Parliament in 2017 for holding Scotland’s first Daffodil Festival and now being given scientific status. 

The Backhouses were renowned daffodil breeders and as a descendent, Caroline strives to continue the work of her forebears. The hybridising programme which her family began in the 1800s is reflected across the daffodil growing world today, and continues to thrive in Fife where her collection is held via a series of unique new demonstration beds that showcase ground-breaking cultivars and plant ancestries. Caroline is also working with the University of Cambridge contributing  to Narcissus medical research trials. She is a speaker at international conferences, and regularly publishes new research. "

https://www.plantheritage.org.uk/news/national/two-national-plant-collections-awarded-scientific-status-for-outstanding-contributions-to-research/
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Mariette on March 31, 2022, 08:10:11 PM
From a derelict garden in Sweden I got this clone which I like - maybe an old variety?

(https://up.picr.de/43300685pe.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/43300686pr.jpg)
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 01, 2022, 01:47:36 PM
Narcissus obesus

Narcissus triandrus 'Thalia'

Narcissus  jonquilla
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 01, 2022, 01:49:50 PM
Narcissus rupicola

Narcissus triandrus ssp. triandrus

Narcissus tazetta
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on April 07, 2022, 02:55:04 PM
Is any cultivar more elegant than this wild beauty? I have it as Narcissus varduliensis.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Stefan B. on April 09, 2022, 08:23:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4vbEa3b.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/o0grvhM.jpg)
Narcissus moschatus
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2022, 09:22:33 PM
Fernando Ureña Plaza  writes:
" Very interesting piece, recently published, about the citotaxonomy of Algerian narcissists and that confirms our way of understanding some parts of the gender that he refers to (e.g. , N. elegance, N. Pachybolbus)."

Cytotaxonomic investigations on species of
genus Narcissus (Amaryllidaceae) from Algeria

Link to pdf :  tinyurl.com/2p84kwdw
Title: Death of Mike Salmon 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on April 29, 2022, 10:01:24 PM
Very sad to learn the news today, from his old friend Kurt Vickery, of the death of retired nurseryman and narcissus expert, Mike Salmon.
A small comfort that Micheal was able to see the publication of his book in 2017. One of the great narcissus lovers gone. 

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Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on May 01, 2022, 07:09:45 PM
Sad to hear that.
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on June 07, 2022, 05:41:50 PM
Kevin Frediani relates:" Fantastic morning evaluating the first year of the @DaffDNA  ( The Daffodil DNA Project - A colloborative project between schools and scientists funded by the Royal Society partnership grants to decode the genetics of daffodils)  project Dundee Botanics with STEM partners from James Hutton Institute  &  Univ. of Dundee Life Sciences division plant sciences with Jorunn Bos,  Suzanne Duce (Researcher at Univ. of Dundee)  & Liz Lakin plus many researchers who we will hear from at JHI this afternoon."

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New websites which are actively being developed to share the outputs and capture success of the Scottish Daffodil Project
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on June 07, 2022, 09:57:07 PM
Very exciting!
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: annew on June 12, 2022, 11:38:20 AM
Making dinner after chipping all day and can’t seem to stop.  :(
Title: Re: Narcissus 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on June 12, 2022, 03:55:07 PM
Making dinner after chipping all day and can’t seem to stop.  :(
Take the basal plate off for dinner,  Anne - it can get stuck in the teeth!!
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