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Title: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on January 02, 2022, 06:56:00 PM
Hepatica japonica without a name, just a number. But it is beautiful enough to get a name!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 03, 2022, 08:07:06 AM
Hepatica japonica without a name, just a number. But it is beautiful enough to get a name!
Patrick, great start for the new Hepatica season! Here also the first flowers are appearing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on January 15, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
Almost everyone is still asleep here, almost.....

Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 15, 2022, 10:15:14 AM
Almost everyone is still asleep here, almost.....
Arthur, here the Hepatica's are waiting for the sun! A lot of buds are visible in our garden and the greenhouse. The temperatures are also between 0 and 8°C. Some nights below zero. Next week there will be more sun but still low temperatures (<8°C). So we are hopeful!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 15, 2022, 07:51:53 PM
So nice to see that the season is about to start.
Among the first flowers in the greenhouse is Hepatica pubescens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 15, 2022, 07:58:01 PM
Hepatica japonica, a very dark flower form and even more blackish than I was able to fix on the photograph.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 15, 2022, 08:07:12 PM
Carsten, great Hepatica ‘s!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 16, 2022, 11:07:46 AM
It is nice to see Hepatica season is starting! :)
Hepatica pubescens are so lovely. I'm waiting for spring to see mine. If they have survived this winter then they are really hardy. This winter frost has gone deep because in early December it was so cold without snow. I'm still positive everything will be ok when spring comes. There is now some snow cover though rains (!) last week melted some of it. We'll see how the rest of the winter will be.
Black H.japonica is really special.

Herman, it will not be long before your Hepaticas are also flowering, it is so warm there.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on January 16, 2022, 07:00:37 PM
So nice to see the first buds and flowers of Hepatica!

Carsten: H. pubescens is very beautiful and the dark H. japonica is the queen of the night! I've never seen such dark flowers I think, the range of possible colors in H. japonica is astounding.

We still are in a deep cold in Ontario and will last till end of January; alas with very little snow. Last night we recorded -25C. Like Leena says, we'll have to wait for the spring to see what survived. It doesn't get this cold in this part of ON every year, and usually it doesn't last so long.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on January 19, 2022, 07:33:26 AM
very nice flowers Carsten and Herman. I am in India till April. In Saskatoon the flowering season starts in April
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 19, 2022, 11:31:13 AM
Hepatica japonica, a very dark flower form and even more blackish than I was able to fix on the photograph.
That's amazing, Carsten,
I thought it was a pic of Cosmos atrosanguineus!
Very impressive,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 19, 2022, 04:24:13 PM
Hepatica nobilis in different colour shades. All
plants are in the greenhouse and only very few start to flower ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 19, 2022, 04:29:16 PM
A range of different blue filled Hepatica nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 19, 2022, 04:35:04 PM
Carsten, nice colors, you had probably some sun today. Here it was again cloudy weather and then the flowers remain closed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 19, 2022, 04:41:06 PM
A range of different blue filled Hepatica nobilis.
Carsten, they are very beautiful and so different!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 19, 2022, 05:42:38 PM
Hepatica nobilis in different colour shades. All
plants are in the greenhouse and only very few start to flower ...
Carsten, are they pure nobilis? The connectives aren't all pink or red, what is typical for pure nobilis?
Pyrenaica, the connectives are white to yellow.
Americana, the connectives are white to green.
Acutiloba, the connectives are green.
Pubescens, the connectives are red.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 20, 2022, 08:09:18 AM
Carsten, are they pure nobilis? The connectives aren't all pink or red, what is typical for pure nobilis?
Pyrenaica, the connectives are white to yellow.
Americana, the connectives are white to green.
Acutiloba, the connectives are green.
Pubescens, the connectives are red.
Herman, as far as you can judge from the lables, they are all pure nobilis.
1. 'Clara' x 'Ederka' F2 seedling
2. Seedling from collected seed ex. Frühlingstal, Italy
3. Cloverleaf form x 'Ederka' F2 seedling
4 'Selma'
5. Nobilis seedling from Andreas Händel



Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: partisangardener on January 20, 2022, 12:07:47 PM
I could not make out where these connectives could be situated. Could please someone explain what these are?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 20, 2022, 12:21:01 PM
I could not make out where these connectives could be situated. Could please someone explain what these are?
Axel it is the connection between filament and anther. You can find translation in my article:

http://gentians.be/index.php?page=articles&art=6
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 20, 2022, 12:30:43 PM
Herman, as far as you can judge from the lables, they are all pure nobilis.
1. 'Clara' x 'Ederka' F2 seedling
2. Seedling from collected seed ex. Frühlingstal, Italy
3. Cloverleaf form x 'Ederka' F2 seedling
4 'Selma'
5. Nobilis seedling from Andreas Händel
Thank you Carsten, maybe it is mostly pink or red and are there exceptions or the one with white connectives have pyrenaica blood.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on January 20, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
A range of different blue filled Hepatica nobilis.
Carsten very nice double  blue flowers. Are they from your own cross?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 20, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
Carsten, I like the blue colour in your filled ones, such clear blue with no red.

I went through my pictures from last spring, and as far as I can tell, all our native H.nobilis have white/whitish connectives. These are all plants grown in the wild (and some moved to garden bed).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 20, 2022, 04:43:15 PM
Blue native  H.nobilis
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 20, 2022, 04:46:02 PM
H.americana has green connectives, at least this one.
H.japonica with red connectives, not all of them have this red connectives.
H.pubescent with white connectives, and the second one has slightly darker ones.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 20, 2022, 05:11:03 PM
Carsten very nice double  blue flowers. Are they from your own cross?
Hi Kris,
no, all are finds.
Nice, to spend the winter in India ;-)
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: partisangardener on January 20, 2022, 05:15:57 PM
Thank you very much.
As far I remember the connectives vary here quite a bit in nature. I will look through my pictures
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 20, 2022, 05:33:17 PM
Carsten, I like the blue colour in your filled ones, such clear blue with no red.

I went through my pictures from last spring, and as far as I can tell, all our native H.nobilis have white/whitish connectives. These are all plants grown in the wild (and some moved to garden bed).
Thanks Leena, so I will adjust my administration: connectives of nobilis are white, pink or red.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 20, 2022, 06:17:03 PM
Herman, I will try to look close this spring if there is much variation in our native plants.  Maybe there is. These were just pictures of some, but strangely all have white/whitish connectives.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 20, 2022, 06:54:43 PM
Herman, I will try to look close this spring if there is much variation in our native plants.  Maybe there is. These were just pictures of some, but strangely all have white/whitish connectives.
Thanks  Leena, there is always the possibility that the connectives are different in different countries.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: partisangardener on January 20, 2022, 07:56:13 PM
Here in my area of south germany you can find a lot of Hepatica nobilis populations.
In most of them, the flowers are only blue and I have no pictures of these which show the connectives. I will have a look the coming season.
Connectives from two places with a lot of colour variations like red, pink, white, some with dots or cloudy colors apart from blue or white have the following colors in the connectives:
blueish-pink, pure green, light blue, white, pink and also some in kind of red with a tint of blue.
These are only from wild populations without any gardeninfluence.

I will certainly have a look around other populations and collect all different colour findings. Probably this rules have more exeptions...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 20, 2022, 08:06:10 PM
Here in my area of south germany you can find a lot of Hepatica nobilis populations.
In most of them, the flowers are only blue and I have no pictures of these which show the connectives. I will have a look the coming season.
Connectives from two places with a lot of colour variations like red, pink, white, some with dots or cloudy colors apart from blue or white have the following colors in the connectives:
blueish-pink, pure green, light blue, white, pink and also some in kind of red with a tint of blue.
These are only from wild populations without any gardeninfluence.

I will certainly have a look around other populations and collect all different colour findings. Probably this rules have more exeptions...
Thanks Axel, I am very interested to hear  what you find in spring.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on January 20, 2022, 08:51:48 PM
Lena, at your photos I like H. americana.
In my opinion there exist two or three filled Hepatica from North America. H. acutiloba 'Luise Köhler', H.a. 'Nimbus', and the one or other maybe. But never as much filled clones as we have found here in Europe at the genus H. nobilis and H. japonica in Japan.
What's can be the reason?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: partisangardener on January 21, 2022, 09:03:54 AM
As with Eranthis now and with H. nobilis, maybe they have not looked for it thoroughly until now.
I have observed in the last decade here  with the forum garten-pur.de how the findings increased since more people were looking for it.
Alas propagation is slow and most are not a improvment to the already known ones.

There are hot spots where they can be found in numbers (some finders suggest). I have not yet found one, but one big population where colors vary a lot.


Another setback is here, the populations are quite dens, and a plant enthusiast usually does not like trampling on his beloved friends.
I tried with binoculars, but this is very tiring (at least with the one I have) and so my searches are very shallow and accidental. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on January 22, 2022, 08:33:59 AM
As with Eranthis now and with H. nobilis, maybe they have not looked for it thoroughly until now.
Yes, that's also what I think!
Dear all NA guys, you have to search better!  ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on January 22, 2022, 06:19:21 PM
To join the discussion about connectives, I looked at few of my pictures and it might not be too conclusive for my H. nobilis because all are grown from open pollinated seeds, but the connectives can be pink, purple, yellow-greenish and green for one batch of H. nobilis var. pyrenaica.
I'll show just the one I named 'Walter' last year.
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For H. americana the colors can be: green, green-yellow (yellowish), white or cream. Since I had more pictures to look at, it matters when one looks or takes pictures: when the flowers are just opening or later when fully opened.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on January 22, 2022, 06:27:04 PM
For Hepatica acutiloba they are in general pure white or a very light cream, I only found green ones in a white multipetal. Of course, I only looked at a small amount of pictures.
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And the beautiful H. transsilvanica :), seeds from Kris. I don't have pictures with wild H. transsilvanica.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 23, 2022, 07:15:04 AM
Gabriela, interesting information! Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 23, 2022, 08:29:28 AM
Lena, at your photos I like H. americana.

Thanks. :) My H.americana are grown from seeds from Gabriela. :)

Since I had more pictures to look at, it matters when one looks or takes pictures: when the flowers are just opening or later when fully opened.

This is interesting. Does the colour become lighter when flower ages or can it change alltogether?
I will have to look at my native plants more carefully this spring.
'Walter' is very pretty! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on January 23, 2022, 06:47:58 PM
This is interesting. Does the colour become lighter when flower ages or can it change alltogether?
I will have to look at my native plants more carefully this spring.
'Walter' is very pretty! :)

Like you guessed Leena, the color becomes lighter when the flower is fully open and/or the anthers release the pollen.
So, for one plant the connectives can be green just at flower opening but later may look light green or even cream.

Thanks, I hope the few 'Walter' I have will survive the brutal January. We usually don't have very low temp. for such long periods of time.
It seems that the beginning of February will bring some relief but remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on January 25, 2022, 06:31:03 PM
Thanks, I hope the few 'Walter' I have will survive the brutal January. We usually don't have very low temp. for such long periods of time.
It seems that the beginning of February will bring some relief but remains to be seen.

Here it has been milder but temperatures going up and down has resulted in ice in some places. Mostly it is still snow, but I'm a bit worried about all ice in beds.
I hope your February will be better!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on January 27, 2022, 12:22:41 AM
Here it has been milder but temperatures going up and down has resulted in ice in some places. Mostly it is still snow, but I'm a bit worried about all ice in beds.
I hope your February will be better!

Thanks Leena, the first part of February doesn't look promising if we are to believe the forecast. Once every 4-5 years we get a super-winter, so that we don't forget what hardiness zone we are in actually  :-\

Ice is not good, nothing can breathe underneath. Sometimes towards the spring it can also happen here when the top layer of snow melts. Maybe you can poke some holes here and there.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 27, 2022, 05:16:16 PM
We had some sun today and more and more plants start opening their flowers.

Hepatica japonica 'Kagura' 2pics
Hepatica japonica 'Shirayuki'
Hepatica japonica unnamed
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 27, 2022, 06:54:14 PM
We had some sun today and more and more plants start opening their flowers.

Hepatica japonica 'Kagura' 2pics
Hepatica japonica 'Shirayuki'
Hepatica japonica unnamed
Carsten, you are lucky to have some sun to open your Hepatica’s. Here the days  are dark and cold and some rain.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on January 28, 2022, 09:47:00 PM
Carsten, 'Kagura' is a very beautiful plant. I like the deep blue/purple with the green.
Also the leaves are nice.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on January 29, 2022, 01:32:34 PM
Hepatica japonica 'Yuzuu'
Hepatica pubescens ex 'Hohobeni'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 29, 2022, 04:27:29 PM
Hepatica japonica 'Yuzuu'
Hepatica pubescens ex 'Hohobeni'
Patrick, beautiful pubescens!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on January 29, 2022, 06:10:54 PM
Very pretty Heaptica japonica specimens Carsten and Patrick! Seems to be the start of the Hepatica season :)

The marbled foliage is such a nice bonus for 'Kagura'!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 30, 2022, 03:50:20 PM
Just a few hours of sun today and some new flowers appeared.
Shades of red, all are seedlings of Hepatica japonica 'Shinku'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Some nobilis start to bloom, too. All are seedlings and one of them is ex. 'Selma' which can be easily spotted.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 30, 2022, 04:07:08 PM
Hepatica japonica flower close-ups - # 2 is 'Tamamidori', # 3 'Murasaki Toki'

Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 30, 2022, 04:11:24 PM
Finally, a shot of my 2020 seedling pots - looks like a graveyard.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 30, 2022, 04:12:33 PM
Some nobilis start to bloom, too. All are seedlings and one of them is ex. 'Selma' which can be easily spotted.
Carsten, nice Hepatica, here also a bit sun but not enough to open the flowers. ‘ Selma’ has a beautiful colour. I hope that next week there is more sun.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on January 30, 2022, 05:42:22 PM
For all Hepatica enthusiasts living close by or don't mind traveling some 30 kms south of Munich, you are invited to visit my collection from now on untill mid of March depending on the progress of spring.
Please send me a PM to arrange a date.
Looking forward to meet some other forumists  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: David2carver on January 31, 2022, 08:36:44 PM
The warmth from the sun down in Devon has helped bring on the Hepatica buds
Hepatica japonica Osaka
Hepatica nobilis Rubra Plena
Hepatica americana
Hepatica pubescens
Hepatica japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 01, 2022, 07:43:11 AM
Thanks for sharing, David. 'Osaka' is lovely :-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on February 01, 2022, 08:52:05 AM
Yes, I agree with Carsten. The first one is superb. Also the last one is nice.
I am looking forward seeing further pictures (from everybody)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on February 01, 2022, 08:52:54 AM
For all Hepatica enthusiasts living close by or don't mind traveling some 30 kms south of Munich, you are invited to visit my collection from now on untill mid of March depending on the progress of spring.
Please send me a PM to arrange a date.
Looking forward to meet some other forumists  :)

Thank you very much for the invitation!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 01, 2022, 11:01:01 AM
The warmth from the sun down in Devon has helped bring on the Hepatica buds
Hepatica japonica Osaka
Hepatica nobilis Rubra Plena
Hepatica americana
Hepatica pubescens
Hepatica japonica
David, beautiful Hepatica ‘s. Your americana is very pink! As Gabriela says: connetives for H. americana the colors can be: green, green-yellow (yellowish), white or cream. Not pink what is typical for nobilis. I thought  I had Hepatica americana pink form, but the connectives were pink, so it is nobilis. I hope yours  are not pink.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on February 01, 2022, 01:36:07 PM
Really nice to see flowering Hepaticas! :)
Carsten, I love the red H.japonicas, and I'm glad your "graveyard" is not for for dead. :)  White japonicas have such colourful stamens. Your H.nobilis also have nice wide petals and flower shape.
David, very nice flowers, i especially liked white and red japonicas. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on February 03, 2022, 12:27:51 PM
An update. Different japonica clones in flower
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on February 03, 2022, 04:37:46 PM
Very lovely! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 03, 2022, 11:35:23 PM
What a beautiful display of Hepaticas from all :)
I find the pure white flowers with colorful anthers extremely attractive, I don't know why but I would choose one of them over a red one;
not that I have from where unfortunately...

David, beautiful Hepatica ‘s. Your americana is very pink! As Gabriela says: connetives for H. americana the colors can be: green, green-yellow (yellowish), white or cream. Not pink what is typical for nobilis. I thought  I had Hepatica americana pink form, but the connectives were pink, so it is nobilis. I hope yours  are not pink.

Yes, Herman it looks the same like your H. americana fo. rosea. Nothing to be done about it now.
In case you know who is offering them for sale you could drop a note about it. But I wouldn't put much hope on it. I had the occasion to see
a cross between a so called "H. americana" and H. japonica done by an expert (pictures were showed) where H. americana was actually wrongly identified.
So, what can we pretend from people who just buy them to enjoy in the garden.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 05, 2022, 08:25:11 PM
In 2016 I crossed the magnificent Hepatica japonica 'Shinku' with H. jap. 'Touyama shigure' (in the front).

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All seedlings showed a similar dark red and were all single flowering. One of them is #1667-1 (year 2016, crossing # 67, selection # 1) and already a strong flowering plant.

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In 2019 I self pollinated the plant to see what the F2 generation would show. Today, 3 of a couple of seedlings started to open their flowers and although this is not statistically reliable, it looks like one of Mendel´s laws ...

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on February 06, 2022, 09:05:52 AM
Really nice results, Carsten. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: David2carver on February 07, 2022, 08:25:30 PM
Lots more growth and flowers produced since the last time. Still yet to catch them on a sunny day off from work
Hepatica japonica Ryoku
Hepatica japonica Yamahibiki
Hepatica japonica
Hepatica acutiloba- double headed
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 08, 2022, 03:49:37 PM
After stormy and rainy weather, it is now gradually becoming drier and there is more sunlight. So the Hepatica's in the garden start to open their flowers.
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Winterfreude'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on February 09, 2022, 11:21:19 AM
The weather here was just as scary, yet the first hepatica are beginning to bloom.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 09, 2022, 12:21:59 PM
Nice to see the Hepaticas to start everywhere  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 09, 2022, 12:27:43 PM
In 2016 I crossed Hepatica japonica 'Shinku' x H. japonica 'Echino bijin'

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and self pollinated one of it´s seedlings in 2019.

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Now I got this result. Seedling left, jap. 'Echino bijin' right

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 09, 2022, 12:33:24 PM
Not to start a discussion about colours ....
But the somehow salmon tint is very close to orange.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 09, 2022, 12:47:06 PM
Carsten, beautiful colours! But it is indeed difficult to get the right one on a picture.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on February 09, 2022, 12:58:18 PM
National Collection Holder Glenn Shapiro is having an Open Day for Plant Heritage - 6th March 2022 - she'd love to see visitors there!

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 10, 2022, 02:12:22 PM
I have been looking through all the photos in this thread. Lovely hepaticas, everyone  :).
It is still early and only a few H. transsilvanica have started in the garden but in my garden shed I can enjoy seedlings of  H. japonica. 

Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 10, 2022, 04:00:55 PM
Strong colours, Gunilla! Well done  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 10, 2022, 04:39:31 PM
Not so much my doing, as I got the seed from a hepatica friend :).  I like the strong coloured japonica and yours are awesome, Carsten.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 12, 2022, 07:45:44 PM
Nice red and orange-like seedlings Carsten and Gunilla.
My salmon colored H. japonica seedling made an 'exit' in the summer but there are still some red and magenta ones. All were randomly obtained.
from a red form.

Herman: how is the 'Winterfreude' different than the typical H. transsilvanica, besides the very early flowering? Just to know what to look for in my seedlings which were raised from seeds.

I like the inky blue on H. transsilvanica 'Blumenstadt Erfurt'!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 12, 2022, 11:36:59 PM
An interesting article for those who love Hepatica, starting page 250:
The Alpine Gardener September 2015 Volume 83 no 3
https://issuu.com/gregloadesags/docs/september_2015
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 13, 2022, 07:14:20 AM
Thank you Herman!
Excellent summary!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on February 13, 2022, 11:44:25 AM
Herman, thank you! Really excellent information! :)

Wonderful red japonicas in the previous page. It is so nice to see flowering plants already. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 13, 2022, 06:23:33 PM
Nice red and orange-like seedlings Carsten and Gunilla.
My salmon colored H. japonica seedling made an 'exit' in the summer but there are still some red and magenta ones. All were randomly obtained.
from a red form.

Herman: how is the 'Winterfreude' different than the typical H. transsilvanica, besides the very early flowering? Just to know what to look for in my seedlings which were raised from seeds.

I like the inky blue on H. transsilvanica 'Blumenstadt Erfurt'!
Gabriela, 'Winterfreude' this variety was the first winter-flowering form, which blooms in mild winters as early as New Year's Day gives small bouquets. Discovered in Wolfgang Kautz's private garden, he recognized the value and brought them into culture. The sky-blue, large flowers are among the earliest things that please us in the garden each year. The flower bud is dark violet at first and becomes lighter when it opens. The back is a little darker.
The flower is nicely evenly shaped. This Hepatica produces many flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 13, 2022, 06:30:40 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Loddon Blue' , a lovely pale blue cultivar, selected by Thomas Carlile of Loddon Nurseries in Berkshire.
Not so many flowers at once, but they are lighter in color and larger.
A problem with cultivars is the authenticity of the species. Are the plants divided or do they come from seed (not always true to species).
So it's about the trust of the supplier.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 13, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
An interesting article for those who love Hepatica, starting page 250:
The Alpine Gardener September 2015 Volume 83 no 3
https://issuu.com/gregloadesags/docs/september_2015

Thanks Herman, I remember reading this article but I still went again through all of it! The best read for another cold winter day.
Maybe one of the few writings that mention the fragrance present in some H. acutiloba.

Also thank you for the notes on the 'Winterfreude'. Such an early character is not a 'quality' for our climate. But anyway since it was grown from seeds who knows...and we still have a layer of snow.
'Loddon Blue' is lovely with the large, pale blue flowers.







Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 13, 2022, 08:36:51 PM
Thanks Herman, I remember reading this article but I still went again through all of it! The best read for another cold winter day.
Maybe one of the few writings that mention the fragrance present in some H. acutiloba.

Also thank you for the notes on the 'Winterfreude'. Such an early character is not a 'quality' for our climate. But anyway since it was grown from seeds who knows...and we still have a layer of snow.
'Loddon Blue' is lovely with the large, pale blue flowers.
Gabriela, they talk indeed about the fragrance in some H. acutiloba.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on February 14, 2022, 07:33:11 PM
Two different yellow flowering Hepatica japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on February 14, 2022, 07:35:34 PM
And here two filled white plants
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 15, 2022, 01:11:35 PM
Carsten, Hepatica yamatutai ex pinkback is flowering! It is very nice, also in bud.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2022, 03:02:59 PM
 :)  nice, enjoy!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Mike Ireland on February 19, 2022, 12:07:03 PM
Hepatica japonica seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 19, 2022, 03:19:12 PM
Mike, nice japonica seedlings!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Mike Ireland on February 19, 2022, 05:18:36 PM
Thanks Herman.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 19, 2022, 07:38:35 PM
Some sun today and two seedlings showed their first flower.
1. is an accidental x media out of a japonica seedlingspot.
2. is a targeted nobilis crossing for filled flowers and my first double seedling from own seed.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 19, 2022, 08:33:43 PM
Some sun today and two seedlings showed their first flower.
1. is an accidental x media out of a japonica seedlingspot.
2. is a targeted nobilis crossing for filled flowers and my first double seedling from own seed.
Carsten, the first one is very impressive!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 20, 2022, 04:49:58 AM
2. is a targeted nobilis crossing for filled flowers and my first double seedling from own seed.
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Looks great Carsten! Is this an F2? :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 20, 2022, 07:11:34 AM
Looks great Carsten! Is this an F2? :D
It is a cross from (Severin Strain maiden x 'Bavarian Blue') x nobilis double blue. The double occacionally shows single flowers ;-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 20, 2022, 09:01:35 AM
It is a cross from (Severin Strain maiden x 'Bavarian Blue') x nobilis double blue. The double occacionally shows single flowers ;-)

It looks very nice. Well done, Carsten.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 20, 2022, 09:06:17 AM
Two different yellow flowering Hepatica japonica

Lovely. Are they seedlings? 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on February 20, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
Congratulations, Carsten! :) It must be so rewarding to get what you are aiming for.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 20, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
Thank you, Gunilla and Leena  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2022, 06:20:57 PM
Congrats Carsten. Especially the first one is spectacular! and useful for further crossings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 20, 2022, 06:32:49 PM
Thanks Gabriela! The cross should be steril as x media are but it might be a good idea to double check as I'am not quite sure about the fatherplant.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2022, 11:20:00 PM
Thanks Gabriela! The cross should be steril as x media are but it might be a good idea to double check as I'am not quite sure about the fatherplant.

I didn't quite understood what you meant by " x media out of japonica seedlings pot" :) but anyway it may be worth brushing it with pollen from something else.
How are the leaves looking?

I know for sure of a H. x media (H. transsilvanica x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica) which is fertile in a very small percentage; it did form 3-4 seeds one year. It sounds funny but it proves it is not entirely sterile.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 21, 2022, 12:15:10 AM
It is a cross from (Severin Strain maiden x 'Bavarian Blue') x nobilis double blue. The double occacionally shows single flowers ;-)

Thanks for the info, what an interesting cross! It seems likely that 'Severin Strain Maiden' has some double genes, then. Fun!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 21, 2022, 12:31:58 AM
Many of my Hepatica have started to bloom outside in my propagation area, but it will getting as low as -6 C at night for several days...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 21, 2022, 07:05:30 AM
Many of my Hepatica have started to bloom outside in my propagation area, but it will getting as low as -6 C at night for several days...
So cute, a really pretty one!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 21, 2022, 07:10:26 AM
I didn't quite understood what you meant by " x media out of japonica seedlings pot" :) but anyway it may be worth brushing it with pollen from something else.
How are the leaves looking?

I know for sure of a H. x media (H. transsilvanica x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica) which is fertile in a very small percentage; it did form 3-4 seeds one year. It sounds funny but it proves it is not entirely sterile.
The seedlings pot had only seed from Hepatica japonica 'Isari bi'. But the plant stood right next to a transsilvanica and as this was an open pollination, some of the seedlings turned out to be x media.
I will give it try, Gabriela.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 21, 2022, 07:12:47 AM

How are the leaves looking?

A clearly  x media leaf.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 21, 2022, 07:39:19 AM
A clearly  x media leaf.
Carsten, if it was open pollination  isn't it then: Hepatica x transs-japonica ‘Isari bi’?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on February 21, 2022, 10:23:38 AM
I know that this name is used but I think it is not yet formally accepted ?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 21, 2022, 11:13:54 AM
I know that this name is used but I think it is not yet formally accepted ?
I also don't know.
Hepatica x media = H. transsilvanica x H. nobilis
Hepatica x euroasiatica = H. transsilvanica x H. pubescens
Hepatica x schlyteri = H. nobilis x H. maxima.
But indeed what about the other crossings? I think it is best to mention the name of the parents.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 21, 2022, 08:05:55 PM
Many of my Hepatica have started to bloom outside in my propagation area, but it will getting as low as -6 C at night for several days...

Lovely Peppa.
In our region (zone 6, this year rather 5) the first flowers outdoors are only possible somewhere in April.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 21, 2022, 08:18:26 PM
A clearly  x media leaf.

I concur with what Herman said regarding the names Carsten.
Hepatica x media can only be applied to H. transsilvanica x H. nobilis or vice-versa crosses. It is probably the only name accepted in theory, the natural hybrids were first described from wild specimens in Romania, where the 2 species can overlap.
In fact even the one I mentioned shouldn't be called H. x media because it involved H. nobilis var. pyrenaica as parent.

Besides the H. x euroasiatica and H. x schlyteri, given how many people are doing crosses there are all sorts of names circulated, which I don't think are valid or recognized, except in the Hepatica lovers community:
H. x hernry-japonica, H. x transs-japonica,......

I don't know about the H. x kristensenae, if it was actually published somewhere.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 22, 2022, 04:42:01 AM
Lovely Peppa.
In our region (zone 6, this year rather 5) the first flowers outdoors are only possible somewhere in April.

Looking forward to seeing your Hepatica!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on February 22, 2022, 06:42:22 PM
Alles 21. und 22.2.22 Leider unscharf, war Sturm.
Rechte Hälfte weiss mit Sprenkel, linke blau mit

Von unten sieht man besser
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on February 22, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Helleres Blau, nob.


Namenloses trans.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on February 22, 2022, 06:47:04 PM
Mit Purpurschimmer


Elison Spence aufgeknabbert
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 22, 2022, 06:53:47 PM
Hi Arthur!
Great Hepatica's, thanks for showing them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on February 22, 2022, 08:53:17 PM
To Starking007 - sorry your posts here in Hepatica 2022  have been removed because your images were not compatible with the Forum settings. Please try again using another upload format.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 23, 2022, 03:29:34 AM
Since it will be -6C tonight, we had to put frost cloth over our Hepatica in our outdoor propagation area and cover some of plants in the garden. I won't be able to remove the frost cloth for several days, so I was looking through some of my Hepatica pictures from earlier this month.

Here is one of my H. americana from about two weeks ago. For some reason, even in the US, true H. americana is not easily available (especially on the West Coast), and what is sold is frequently actually H. nobilis or some sort of hybrid.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on February 23, 2022, 04:29:10 AM
I try it again
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 23, 2022, 04:37:06 AM
I try it again


Now I can see the pretty flowers! They are all nice, but the first one is my favorite!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2022, 07:26:05 AM
Since it will be -6C tonight, we had to put frost cloth over our Hepatica in our outdoor propagation area and cover some of plants in the garden. I won't be able to remove the frost cloth for several days, so I was looking through some of my Hepatica pictures from earlier this month.

Here is one of my H. americana from about two weeks ago. For some reason, even in the US, true H. americana is not easily available (especially on the West Coast), and what is sold is frequently actually H. nobilis or some sort of hybrid.
Peppa, that is a very nice H. americana. I have also one in flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2022, 07:29:42 AM
Arthur, first I saw your pictures but now I don't! Is the extension from your pictures something else then .JPG?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on February 23, 2022, 08:08:44 AM
That`s .jpg. But I dont find how large the Pictures could be.
May be tey are deleted again?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2022, 08:25:21 AM
That`s .jpg. But I dont find how large the Pictures could be.
May be tey are deleted again?
Arthur: look at https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=65.0
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 23, 2022, 11:30:58 AM
Lovely H. americana, Peppa and Herman.  I wish I could grow them better. H. nobilis and H. acutiloba are no problems but the H. americana  I have tried are not happy at all. What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2022, 02:03:36 PM
Lovely H. americana, Peppa and Herman.  I wish I could grow them better. H. nobilis and H. acutiloba are no problems but the H. americana  I have tried are not happy at all. What am I doing wrong?
Gunilla, americana may stand drier and more acidic than nobilis and acutiloba. I have problems with japonica in our garden, I can’ t keep them. Probably our winters are too wet!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 23, 2022, 04:23:24 PM
Gunilla, americana may stand drier and more acidic than nobilis and acutiloba. I have problems with japonica in our garden, I can’ t keep them. Probably our winters are too wet!
Same here, Herman. I grow H. japonica in pots and cold frames with cover. They don't last long in the garden. My garden soil is mostly clay and not acidic.  Maybe I should try to plant H. americana in the rhododendron area.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on February 23, 2022, 10:25:45 PM
That`s .jpg. But I dont find how large the Pictures could be.
May be tey are deleted again?

I was able to see your pictures yesterday, but I can't see them any more... I wonder why...

Herman, Lovely H. americana!

Gunilla, even though H. americana and H. acutiloba grow in different conditions in nature, I use a basically similar potting mix and they seem to grow fine for me. But I have noticed that H. americana is slower and needs more time to get going for me relative to H. acutiloba...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2022, 12:47:27 PM
Some photos from Starking007  were removed as they were not showing for the Moderator - it seems they may have been visible for  others so returning them to the thread.
Starking007's photos are still not visible here.

 Apologies if they are not visible to some viewers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 24, 2022, 05:42:30 PM
Some photos from Starking007  were removed as they were not showing for the Moderator - it seems they may have been visible for  others so returning them to the thread.
Starking007's photos are still not visible here.

 Apologies if they are not visible to some viewers.

I also cannot see them, which is fine. But maybe we can try not to have them included when someone includes the author quote; it will make for long scrolls through this thread, with  very large, empty 'squares'.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on February 24, 2022, 05:54:25 PM
Same here, Herman. I grow H. japonica in pots and cold frames with cover. They don't last long in the garden. My garden soil is mostly clay and not acidic.  Maybe I should try to plant H. americana in the rhododendron area.

I agree with Herman and Peppa Gunilla. H. americana enjoys slightly acidic, drier locations. Clay is surely not good as a substrate. In my garden they do well even in regular garden beds soil as long as there is good drainage.
In nature they are often found on rocky slopes in deciduous forests, where they receive plenty of sunlight during flowering. They are also amazingly drought resistant, so in cultivation keeping them on the drier side after flowering is best than over watering.

Seedlings speaking, like Peppa mentioned, they are slower to grow than H. acutiloba, H. nobilis and H. japonica. If I would be to rate them all after a 2 or 3 years old seedling size, H. acutiloba and H. nobilis would be first, followed by H. japonica and H. americana last.
I never had a 2 year old H. americana flowering, although I am sure it could happen one day :)



Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on February 24, 2022, 09:02:21 PM
Thankyou Herman, Peppa and Gabriela for your good advice.  I will try to give H. americana better growing conditions in my garden.  I do love them even if they are a bit slow to mature  :). 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on February 26, 2022, 09:57:10 PM
Hep. jap. 'Utyuu' is flowering
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Diane Whitehead on March 01, 2022, 09:05:30 PM
I have no luck with plants native to the Eastern U.S.A. or Japan.

Japan has a rainfall pattern opposite to mine - rainy summers and dry winters.  It was so odd to see all the brown grass in the winter in Japan, and persimmons put along poles to dry in the sun. 

I think the Eastern U.S.A. is similar, though I haven't been there except briefly in spring.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on March 02, 2022, 09:06:06 PM
I have no luck with plants native to the Eastern U.S.A. or Japan.

Japan has a rainfall pattern opposite to mine - rainy summers and dry winters.  It was so odd to see all the brown grass in the winter in Japan, and persimmons put along poles to dry in the sun. 

I think the Eastern U.S.A. is similar, though I haven't been there except briefly in spring.

Diane, I think I live in a similar climate to yours. I grow Hepatica mainly in pots because it is easier to cross them, but I found that Japanese Hepatica do best in pots here in Seattle because they need less winter moisture. They don’t grow as well as H. nobilis does in an open garden here since H. nobilis seems less finicky about the soil or moisture they get. Niigata prefecture in Japan (where many Hepatica grow natively) is frequently covered in snow in the winter, so the plants get lots of water with the spring thaw.

However, H. acutiloba seem fine in the ground in my garden and they don't care as much about soil conditions as Japanese ones. That being said, all Hepatica in the ground do much better when I divide them and clean the roots every few years while they are in their prime. Waiting too long will cause the plants to decline, and they will take several years to recover.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on March 02, 2022, 09:07:55 PM
Yesterday was sunny here, and the Hepatica seemed to enjoy it!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2022, 10:18:40 PM
Peppa, great display! Beautiful Hepatica’s!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2022, 10:50:25 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' enjoys the sun today.

Hepatica transsilvanica ‘Alba’ , but never a lot of flowers.

Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica 'Alba'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2022, 10:51:05 PM
Hepatica x schlyteri 'Red Max'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 03, 2022, 07:55:43 PM
Hep. jap. 'Utyuu' is flowering

That's a very nice color mellifera, too bad you didn't have good sunlight exposure for the picture.

I have no luck with plants native to the Eastern U.S.A. or Japan.
Japan has a rainfall pattern opposite to mine - rainy summers and dry winters.  It was so odd to see all the brown grass in the winter in Japan, and persimmons put along poles to dry in the sun. 
I think the Eastern U.S.A. is similar, though I haven't been there except briefly in spring.

You forgot the Eastern Canada Diane  ;) where H. americana and H. acutiloba are also native.
The climate is very different than yours, albeit with large differences depending how 'high' one would go on the map. In SW Ontario, springs and fall are very wet, summers usually dry and hot and winters depending: in the last years we get a lot of rain instead of snow.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 03, 2022, 07:57:48 PM
Yesterday was sunny here, and the Hepatica seemed to enjoy it!

So nice Peppa! I always like the look of various colored Hepatica grown together, they complement each other.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 03, 2022, 08:08:38 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' enjoys the sun today.
Hepatica transsilvanica ‘Alba’ , but never a lot of flowers.
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica 'Alba'

Good to see your Hepatica season is starting Herman!
From many years ago when hiking in the Carpathians I remember just occasional white flowered H. transsilvanica, I think they are not often found. I hope to do have the chance to do a spring scouting for H. transsilvanica at some point in the future.

H. nobilis var. pyrenaica remains a somewhat 'mystery' for me. I read that it is supposed to be a dwarf form of H. nobilis, yet many cultivars bearing the name look so vigorous.

I was able to take a picture with Hepatica foliage on one side where the sunlight reaches now :) I don't remember which one, I planted many pots in the ground last summer, could be a japonica). But the soil is still solidly frozen and there is a lot of snow on the shaded sides.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 04, 2022, 08:23:00 AM
H. nobilis var. pyrenaica remains a somewhat 'mystery' for me. I read that it is supposed to be a dwarf form of H. nobilis, yet many cultivars bearing the name look so vigorous.
Gabriela, pyyrenaica is not a dwarf form, but it is a bit more compact than nobilis. The leaves are marbled and stays smaller than normal nobilis. The connectives are yellow.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on March 04, 2022, 08:50:40 PM
National Collection Holder Glenn Shapiro is having an Open Day for Plant Heritage - 6th March 2022 - she'd love to see visitors there!


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 A reminder!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 05, 2022, 07:43:12 AM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence' is starting.

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Karpatenkrone'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 05, 2022, 07:46:43 AM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Schwanensee'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 05, 2022, 07:58:02 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rosea' gives a lot of flowers and seeds!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 05, 2022, 03:15:54 PM
It is high season in the greenhouse.

Hepatica nobilis 'Borgholm'

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Hepatica 'Lollipop' (F2 seedling from pyrenaica alba x nobilis 'Bolette') seed from Gunhild Poulsen 2016

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Hepatica nobilis #43a

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Hepatica nobilis 'Dr. Ernst von Siemens'

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Hepatica nobilis semidouble

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 05, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
Hepatica nobilis bicoloured seedlings

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Crossing partners - nobilis 'Severin Strain x 'Tausendschön' and a nobilis supercentra typ

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Hepatica nobilis 'Bergfexing'

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Hepatica nobilis unnamed semidoulbe 'Severin Strain'

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Hepatica nobilis ex. 'Freckles'

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 05, 2022, 03:35:26 PM
 Carsten, great Hepatica’s!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on March 05, 2022, 04:31:25 PM
Carsten, Lollipop looks delicious, a real treat  :)

I found another dark japonica seedling in flower today. The pink H. transsilvanica 'Schwanensee' is there only for colour comparison.   

The nights are cold now and I will have to cover my cold frames.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 05, 2022, 04:39:54 PM
Very nice seedling, Gunilla!
You may know one of the doubles ;-)  Thanks again!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 05, 2022, 08:50:42 PM
Gabriela, pyyrenaica is not a dwarf form, but it is a bit more compact than nobilis. The leaves are marbled and stays smaller than normal nobilis. The connectives are yellow.

Thank you Herman, I was thinking about compact but I wrote dwarf....Anyway, the question would be what is a 'normal' nobilis size wise?
Your white form looks very nice with the very large flowers.

It seems that H. transsilvanica flowering is in full swing!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 05, 2022, 08:52:21 PM
So many beauties Carsten! Like Gunilla says, Lollipop is delicious :)
Hepatica nobilis 'Dr. Ernst von Siemens' also looks very interesting.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on March 05, 2022, 10:46:35 PM
Great plants Carsten.
I like the Severin Strain.
A few japonica are in flower
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gunilla on March 06, 2022, 08:21:31 AM
A few japonica are in flower

Beautiful japonica, Patrick  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: shelagh on March 06, 2022, 01:14:22 PM
We gave most of our big Hepaticas to friends when we decided we were unlikely to be exhibiting again. We have however a few small ones coming along.
1. Hepatica japonica blue close up
2. Hepatica japonica blue whole plant
3. Hepatica japonica deep pink
4. Hepatica nobilis pygmy strain
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 06, 2022, 02:36:53 PM
Shelagh, lovely Hepatica’s! I love nobilis pygmy strain the most.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: shelagh on March 06, 2022, 04:39:31 PM
Thanks Herman, it came from Ashworth's nursery. I bought it for Brian a few years ago, you don't see many of them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 08, 2022, 10:10:31 AM
It is wonderful to see Hepaticas flowering so much already.
Beautiful japonicas Shelagh and Patrick, and Gunilla, your dark H.japonica is very nice.

Crossing partners - nobilis 'Severin Strain x 'Tausendschön' and a nobilis supercentra typ

Carsten, I loved all your Hepaticas, but these blue ones were especially nice to see. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 09, 2022, 04:58:16 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence'

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 09, 2022, 11:22:54 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence'

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz'

Two great H. transsilvanica cultivars Herman! or rather two of the greatest? :)
I noticed few flowers of 'Sternenglanz' are already done, it was bad weather lately? Do you know what is the story of this cv., was it a find in the wild or a lucky seedling?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 10, 2022, 07:48:45 AM
Two great H. transsilvanica cultivars Herman! or rather two of the greatest? :)
I noticed few flowers of 'Sternenglanz' are already done, it was bad weather lately? Do you know what is the story of this cv., was it a find in the wild or a lucky seedling?
Gabriela, good observation! Sternenglanz started indeed earlier to flower, but then the weather was too bad to take a picture (damaged flowers). Until now there are never many flowers at the same time (occurs with several transsilvanicas), but that I hope it gets better when the plant is older.
H. transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz' is originally from Andreas Händel, maybe Gunilla has more information.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: shelagh on March 10, 2022, 01:49:55 PM
Lovely shade of pale blue Herman. Don't think we've ever had a H. transsilvanica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 11, 2022, 03:24:48 PM
Every day new seedlings open their flowers for the first time. Always the most exciting part of the season.
One of them is a seedling of a F2 plant of pyrenaica alba x 'Bolette'. I liked the white single flower with a greenish and rose hint and it´s marbled leaves, so I decided to collect seed from this single flowering plant. There are some 20 other different seedlings out of the original crossing, all single in white, rose or blue and 'Lollipop' and three other filled plants resulted out of this crossing, too. I did not expect anything special, than a nice white single flower. There were only three seedlings and two were exactly like the motherplant, but one is semi filled and greenish - very special.

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And a step forward for my breeding program to produce a blue filled fleckled nobilis is a maiden form out of a crossing with 'Bavarian Blue' and a maiden Schlyter's form.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 11, 2022, 03:37:18 PM
Crossing partners: Hepatica nobilis 'Jurakönigin' x nobilis maiden. Very rare with nobilis - as far as I know - the colour combination blue and rose.

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Hepatica japonica 'Sugo mori' - something like 'amazing forest'

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 11, 2022, 05:24:02 PM
Carsten, great Hepatica's! The first flower of new seedlings is always exciting. From your F2 seedlings, I sowed the reeds last year and germination is starting. But I need to be patient to see the first flower.
The greenish  one is indeed very special!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 12, 2022, 03:33:08 PM
Every day new seedlings open their flowers for the first time. Always the most exciting part of the season.
And a step forward for my breeding program to produce a blue filled fleckled nobilis is a maiden form out of a crossing with 'Bavarian Blue' and a maiden Schlyter's form.

I hope you will be successful Carsten. Those are pollen grains on your picture, I suppose you already pollinate it? :)

The combination of blue and rose on the same flower is also something not usual for H. americana. There are some flowers with the usual (in my area) violet tinge which have more blue on them but not the distinct blue/pink on the same flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 12, 2022, 03:46:17 PM
Yes Gabriela, I pollinated it before I took the picture and then covered it with a mesh bag right away. The pollen is from another cross with Bavarian Blue and a double form. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 12, 2022, 10:11:47 PM
Hepatica x media ‘Buis’
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 13, 2022, 02:10:38 PM
Some Hepatica nobilis seedlings ex. pink/white maiden ...

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... and a bicoloured nobilis 'Cremar x Ederka'

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Finally another seedling ex. pyrenaica alba x 'Bolette', a bicoloured supercentra typ

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2022, 03:19:44 PM
Hepatica x media ‘Buis’

That's a cutie Herman. I also have this one (purchased as 'Blue Jewel') but has not increased so nicely like yours; maybe I move it too many times.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2022, 03:25:43 PM
Yes Gabriela, I pollinated it before I took the picture and then covered it with a mesh bag right away. The pollen is from another cross with Bavarian Blue and a double form. 

With so much 'double blood' a doubled freckled seedlings is sure to be obtained soon.

Nice maidens and bicoloured! It seems H. nobilis is predisposed to form maiden forms. I may be wrong, but from the few H. nobilis seedlings I grew a few years ago (random seeds received) I got at least 3 maidens.
H. americana rarely shows maiden forms.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 13, 2022, 03:47:28 PM
With so much 'double blood' a doubled freckled seedlings is sure to be obtained soon.

Nice maidens and bicoloured! It seems H. nobilis is predisposed to form maiden forms. I may be wrong, but from the few H. nobilis seedlings I grew a few years ago (random seeds received) I got at least 3 maidens.
H. americana rarely shows maiden forms.

At least, you have a good chance to breed maiden forms from a maiden plant. Some crosses even produce a 100% rate.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 13, 2022, 05:34:56 PM
Carsten, really nice results in bicolour seedlings. :) I sowed seeds from one bicolour H.nobilis I got in 2020 in April, it had seedpods when it arrived, and those seeds germinated last spring. It will be interesting to see what they are going to be like when they flower in couple of years time. Right now they are  in ground, still under about 30cm of snow, as everything is here this year.

Gabriela, it is interesting what you wrote about maiden forms. I like them very much.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2022, 09:30:18 PM
At least, you have a good chance to breed maiden forms from a maiden plant. Some crosses even produce a 100% rate.

Thanks Carsten, I didn't know about this. It is almost impossible to do controlled pollination with plants in the ground, but now I will know the reason if more maiden forms appear around :)
I tried two years ago to dab some pollen from a multipetal acutiloba on a nobilis maiden and sowed the seeds in a pot, but who knows what pollen actually arrived on the maiden (I didn't enclosed the flowers in a bag).

H. acutiloba can be found with maiden forms here and there but I noticed the flowers are very small in that case.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2022, 09:37:05 PM
Carsten, really nice results in bicolour seedlings. :) I sowed seeds from one bicolour H.nobilis I got in 2020 in April, it had seedpods when it arrived, and those seeds germinated last spring. It will be interesting to see what they are going to be like when they flower in couple of years time. Right now they are  in ground, still under about 30cm of snow, as everything is here this year.

Gabriela, it is interesting what you wrote about maiden forms. I like them very much.

We are also still with snow Leena, but this week double digits are predicted!!! And last week I was able to open my cold frame for the first time, all was frozen solid but OK.
Maiden forms are interesting and certainly good for crosses. I prefer the look of the flowers with many/long anther filaments though.
Last year when I saw another maiden flowering, nice foliage too, I was: what? another maiden  :-\
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 08:28:02 AM
Some Hepatica nobilis seedlings from open pollination.


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 08:31:07 AM
Hep. nobilis



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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 08:35:15 AM
Hepatica nobilis var. jap. f. jap. 'Konohana' by A.Händel in the Waldgarten since 2017.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 08:38:25 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue'  and Hep. nobilis seedlings.


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 08:41:02 AM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'De Buis


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 08:44:15 AM
Hepatica nobilis seedling with some potential.


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2022, 08:55:42 AM
Great Hepatica’s, thanks for showing!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 15, 2022, 10:19:50 AM
Nice range of Hepaticas, Upico! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2022, 03:48:49 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence' with some more flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 15, 2022, 06:07:31 PM
Does it stand more sunny? My Hep. 'Connie Greenfield' grows in the shade and does not bloom. It looks healthy and has very good growth. Cuttings in brighter locations bloom.



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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2022, 06:35:42 PM
Does it stand more sunny? My Hep. 'Connie Greenfield' grows in the shade and does not bloom. It looks healthy and has very good growth. Cuttings in brighter locations bloom.
Now it gets full  sun, it stands among shrubs that have no leaves yet. Later they will be in the shade.
Your ‘ Conny Greenfield’ seems to be much darker than my ‘Elisabeth Spence ‘. So it is surely not the same.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 05:10:35 PM
Hepatica nobilis Multipetala Group
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 05:11:31 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Borgholm'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 05:13:04 PM
Hepatica nobilis plena from Gotland, I forgot to cut the leaves, so there are less flowers to see.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 05:14:20 PM
Hepatica x euroasiatica 'Professor Friedrich Hildebrandt'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 16, 2022, 09:50:59 PM
Great spring pictures with Hepatica Upico!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 16, 2022, 09:57:47 PM
Hepatica nobilis plena from Gotland, I forgot to cut the leaves, so there are less flowers to see.

It looks so beautiful with all the foliage Herman. It has a more natural look in my opinion. I don't cut the old leaves unless they are really bad.

I know it was a discussion here years ago about H. trans. 'Elison Spence' being the same thing as 'Connie Greenfield' but they don't look the same, and is not just the color. They look like 'sisters' but different. Maybe they came up from the same generation of the seeds crop?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 10:08:00 PM
Hepatica henryi group is getting bigger!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 10:10:51 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica ‘Alba’
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 10:23:08 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Perrine's Pink' was bought under this name. I think Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica 'Perrine's Pink' is a better name. The connectives are yellow and the leaves are beautifully marbled (picture 2021).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2022, 10:43:40 PM
It looks so beautiful with all the foliage Herman. It has a more natural look in my opinion. I don't cut the old leaves unless they are really bad.

I know it was a discussion here years ago about H. trans. 'Elison Spence' being the same thing as 'Connie Greenfield' but they don't look the same, and is not just the color. They look like 'sisters' but different. Maybe they came up from the same generation of the seeds crop?
Gabriela, on Rareplants' website I found:Traced by Michael Myers back as far as Dr Molly Sanderson in Ireland in 1973. She is thought to have introduced it from the garden of Mrs Elison Spence, originally labelled as “flora plena” but it was later named as Elison Spence. It seems to have come to England via the garden of Connie Greenfield and for a short time it was wrongly named after her, this was picked up from a label reading “ex Connie Greenfield”. Somewhere along the line it has also picked up a further wrong name Konnie Grenfield.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Simon R on March 17, 2022, 09:43:25 AM
Nice Pictures everyone!

Interesting topic. I also always wondered if they are the same plant. Their flowers are quite variable on the same plant so i guess the "differences" between `Connie Greenfield` and `Elison Spence` could just be the variability in different divisions of the same plant.
Thank you for the information Herman!

Anyways, here is `Elison Spence` flowering at my place.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 17, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
My Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence' changes color as the flower gets older!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 17, 2022, 07:05:38 PM
Thank you Herman.
Showing pictures with flowers gradually getting older I think explains it! So, it depends at what moment of flowering someone takes the picture.

Slight differences in color can be due to the camera used, and also to the weather. I noticed here that during cold spring the colors are more vivid, while when too warm (which sometimes happen in May) the colors are more subdued.

Hepatica nobilis 'Perrine's Pink' was bought under this name. I think Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica 'Perrine's Pink' is a better name. The connectives are yellow and the leaves are beautifully marbled (picture 2021).

A nice cultivar which makes me ask a question I had since last year, regarding the marbled leaves of H. nobilis forms.
Should we assume all forms with marbled leaves have as provenience H. nobilis var. pyrenaica? 

From a batch of seeds of H. nobilis var. pyrenaica I actually obtained one year few seedlings with plain, green leaves. So, maybe from regular H. nobilis seeds some with marbled foliage can appear.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 19, 2022, 05:25:54 PM

A nice cultivar which makes me ask a question I had since last year, regarding the marbled leaves of H. nobilis forms.
Should we assume all forms with marbled leaves have as provenience H. nobilis var. pyrenaica? 

From a batch of seeds of H. nobilis var. pyrenaica I actually obtained one year few seedlings with plain, green leaves. So, maybe from regular H. nobilis seeds some with marbled foliage can appear.
Gabriela, if the leaves are marbled and the connectives are yellow it is certainly pyrenaica. But there are also Hepatica nobilis with marbled leaves but with pink connectives. I think it is also possible to have plain leaves on pyrenaica but the connective still need to be yellow.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 19, 2022, 08:42:18 PM
Gabriela, if the leaves are marbled and the connectives are yellow it is certainly pyrenaica. But there are also Hepatica nobilis with marbled leaves but with pink connectives. I think it is also possible to have plain leaves on pyrenaica but the connective still need to be yellow.

Thank you Herman.
I don't know what to say, if we have to be so 'precise' about the connectives color, in general not only for var. pyrenaica. I will look closely this spring but I have at least one which I remember having greenish connectives.
Maybe it also depends when you look at them/take pictures, just at flowering or after the pollen is released....

Anyway, after 2-3 warm days, with up to 15C! almost all the snow melted fast. Yesterday many Hepaticas came to 'light' after a long time spent under snow. They seem OK, including the japonicas, I only found a young one upheaved on top of the ground. The soil is still frozen though.
Speaking of H. nobilis var. pyrenaica, one which receives more sun
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close to it, another one which remains under a Helleborus leaves.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 20, 2022, 09:40:56 AM
Herman, very nice pictures in the previous page. I especially liked your multipetala nobilis, and of course doubles.

Gabriela, it is so nice to see green and plants after winter, isn't it!
About marbled leaves in H.nobilis. I have couple of wild nobilis plants which have marbles new leaves, and later in the summer they turn more even coloured, and because they are from wild here, there can't be any var pyrenaica in them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 20, 2022, 11:21:11 AM
Herman, very nice pictures in the previous page. I especially liked your multipetala nobilis, and of course doubles.
About marbled leaves in H.nobilis. I have couple of wild nobilis plants which have marbles new leaves, and later in the summer they turn more even coloured, and because they are from wild here, there can't be any var pyrenaica in them.
Leena, multipetale nobilis gives a lot of seeds.  :) I have already found seedlings that are also multipetale.
Your marbled nobilis does it have pink connectives?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 20, 2022, 04:21:12 PM
Leena, multipetale nobilis gives a lot of seeds.  :) I have already found seedlings that are also multipetale.
Your marbled nobilis does it have pink connectives?

It is good to know that multipetal type comes through well with seeds. I sowed some multipetal H.nobilis last summer from Gabriela's seeds, and they will germinate soon I hope.

My Hepaticas are still under snow, but of the two native marbled plants which I remember the other one has pink flowers and the other one blue. The pink one was even more marbled than the blue one, but it grows in more sunny spot. I will have to remember to look at their connectives when they flower, and also if the leaves are marbles also this year.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 20, 2022, 10:22:32 PM
Thank you Leena. Just as I suspected about H. nobilis with marbled leaves.

Indeed, it is so good to see all the snow gone and the plants :) This winter there was no break from one snowfall to another. I did a more close inspection today and the buds on Hepaticas are looking good, including on H. japonica. We just have to wait a little more.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 21, 2022, 07:54:12 AM
Hepatica maxima ex BSWJ 4344 has germinated after 2 winters, the first leaves are much larger than with the other Hepatica's.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2022, 08:48:04 AM
Nice seedlings, Herman! In my experience, the germination of seeds from maxima and it´s hybrids mostly takes place in the second year after seeding. Germination is around October with the first root but they emerge not before spring above ground. So, a real cold phase or even frost is not required for germination as it is often told. Maxima seed is much later to ripen in the season, so this might be the reason, that they are not ready for germination in autumn yet.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 21, 2022, 09:10:37 AM
Nice seedlings, Herman! In my experience, the germination of seeds from maxima and it´s hybrids mostly takes place in the second year after seeding. Germination is around October with the first root but they emerge not before spring above ground. So, a real cold phase or even frost is not required for germination as it is often told. Maxima seed is much later to ripen in the season, so this might be the reason, that they are not ready for germination in autumn yet.
Thanks Carsten, it is the first time that I have seedlings from maxima. So for the two seeds from Hepatica maxima x Hepatica  japonica 'Touyama-shigure' in 2021, I will also need to wait till 2023.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2022, 09:20:00 AM
Hepatica japonica seedlings in the garden. Flowers are covered with some saharian dust we had last week.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2022, 09:22:07 AM
Maiden forms of Hepatica nobilis

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2022, 09:27:24 AM
In 2016 I crossed a white japonica with violet anthers and a bicoloured white/blue pyrenaica. For sure, the japonica had some double genes to pass and the pyrenaica added a bit of a gradient.

Some details of the flowers ...

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 21, 2022, 09:40:33 AM
Very special results in crossing. :)
You have a nice display of Hepatica flowers in the garden in sun. I especially liked the violet blue japonica.

Herman, your H.maxima seedlings look so nice and big.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 21, 2022, 10:15:29 AM
Carsten, very beautiful Hepatica’s. I have troubles with japonica in the garden even with pubescens. I can’ t keep them alive. Maybe the reason is our wet mild winters.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 21, 2022, 06:47:21 PM
A half-filled seedling shows the following structures when it fading. Are they pollen?


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2022, 07:41:41 PM
A half-filled seedling shows the following structures when it fading. Are they pollen?


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They look degenerated but you may try to cut the anthers with a sharp knife or scalpel to see if pollen comes out after a while. Should be done when warm enough or indoors. You may also find other flowers (next year?) that have different anthers to try this again. Some semiplenas only produce pollen every other year and only at some flowers, so you might have to wait until the plant grows bigger?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 21, 2022, 07:54:29 PM
Thank you very much. I will put the opened anthers under the microscope. 😉
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 21, 2022, 08:58:58 PM
Hepatica maxima ex BSWJ 4344 has germinated after 2 winters, the first leaves are much larger than with the other Hepatica's.

Worthy of the 'maxima' name Herman! Very cute.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 21, 2022, 09:01:07 PM
Nice selections Carsten. Hardly anything compares with Hepatica flowering under the spring sun  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on March 22, 2022, 05:43:26 PM
Great plants Carsten  ;)
H. jap. 'Ryokurei'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 22, 2022, 06:55:14 PM
The anthers of the hep.  shown above are filled with pollen.😀😉


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 22, 2022, 10:00:22 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. acuta (H. acutiloba) 'Alba'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 23, 2022, 09:38:37 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 23, 2022, 09:42:21 PM
Hepatica x media 'Blue Jewel'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 23, 2022, 09:43:11 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on March 26, 2022, 01:15:48 AM
This is a Hepatica acutiloba x Hepatica japonica seedling. It is interesting that the plant looked exactly like H. acutiloba until it bloomed. The leaves are the same and the flowers stand upright. The mother H. acutiloba is white and the pollen parent is a purple H. japonica. When I self-pollinate H. acutiloba, almost all seedlings come true from the seeds. However, it is interesting that H. acutiloba will take the color from the pollen parent a high percentage of the time, and so hybrids with other Hepatica species can turn out with similar superficial characteristics as H. actutiloba, but with different colors than would be found in the pure species. This can lead to some confusion if care is not taken, especially in the trade.

Another interesting aspect is that when H. acutiloba is hybridized (when H. acutiloba is the mother plant), the anthers often do not develop fully. The seedlings will be either maiden forms (lack of stamens) or have mutated anthers. It occurs often in garden plants and I have seen some examples of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis with similar results. Rick Lupp once made a wonderful cross of a pale pink H. acutiloba with a lovely deep pink H. nobilis var pyrenaica; the result is a stunning pink maiden with upright flowers and mottled acutiloba leaves. I think H. acutiloba has lots of potential for hybridization as well as within the pure species.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on March 26, 2022, 06:49:25 AM
All the H nobilis I have ever seen are pale blue with white centers. Where do you find the color variations?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 26, 2022, 07:45:26 AM
This is a Hepatica acutiloba x Hepatica japonica seedling. It is interesting that the plant looked exactly like H. acutiloba until it bloomed. The leaves are the same and the flowers stand upright. The mother H. acutiloba is white and the pollen parent is a purple H. japonica. When I self-pollinate H. acutiloba, almost all seedlings come true from the seeds. However, it is interesting that H. acutiloba will take the color from the pollen parent a high percentage of the time, and so hybrids with other Hepatica species can turn out with similar superficial characteristics as H. actutiloba, but with different colors than would be found in the pure species. This can lead to some confusion if care is not taken, especially in the trade.

Another interesting aspect is that when H. acutiloba is hybridized (when H. acutiloba is the mother plant), the anthers often do not develop fully. The seedlings will be either maiden forms (lack of stamens) or have mutated anthers. It occurs often in garden plants and I have seen some examples of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis with similar results. Rick Lupp once made a wonderful cross of a pale pink H. acutiloba with a lovely deep pink H. nobilis var pyrenaica; the result is a stunning pink maiden with upright flowers and mottled acutiloba leaves. I think H. acutiloba has lots of potential for hybridization as well as within the pure species.
Peppa, very interesting observations. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on March 26, 2022, 07:53:30 AM
This is a Hepatica acutiloba x Hepatica japonica seedling. It is interesting that the plant looked exactly like H. acutiloba until it bloomed. The leaves are the same and the flowers stand upright. The mother H. acutiloba is white and the pollen parent is a purple H. japonica. When I self-pollinate H. acutiloba, almost all seedlings come true from the seeds. However, it is interesting that H. acutiloba will take the color from the pollen parent a high percentage of the time, and so hybrids with other Hepatica species can turn out with similar superficial characteristics as H. actutiloba, but with different colors than would be found in the pure species. This can lead to some confusion if care is not taken, especially in the trade.

Another interesting aspect is that when H. acutiloba is hybridized (when H. acutiloba is the mother plant), the anthers often do not develop fully. The seedlings will be either maiden forms (lack of stamens) or have mutated anthers. It occurs often in garden plants and I have seen some examples of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis with similar results. Rick Lupp once made a wonderful cross of a pale pink H. acutiloba with a lovely deep pink H. nobilis var pyrenaica; the result is a stunning pink maiden with upright flowers and mottled acutiloba leaves. I think H. acutiloba has lots of potential for hybridization as well as within the pure species.

Very nice seedling, Peppa!
I fully agree that acutiloba has a lot of potential. I especially like the upright position of the flowers. Many cultivars of nobilis and other species often tend to have their flowers laying on the ground.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Upico on March 26, 2022, 06:23:19 PM
Various Hepatica nobilis in the woodgarden.




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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 26, 2022, 07:07:40 PM
This is a Hepatica acutiloba x Hepatica japonica seedling. It is interesting that the plant looked exactly like H. acutiloba until it bloomed. The leaves are the same and the flowers stand upright. The mother H. acutiloba is white and the pollen parent is a purple H. japonica. When I self-pollinate H. acutiloba, almost all seedlings come true from the seeds. However, it is interesting that H. acutiloba will take the color from the pollen parent a high percentage of the time, and so hybrids with other Hepatica species can turn out with similar superficial characteristics as H. actutiloba, but with different colors than would be found in the pure species. This can lead to some confusion if care is not taken, especially in the trade.

Another interesting aspect is that when H. acutiloba is hybridized (when H. acutiloba is the mother plant), the anthers often do not develop fully. The seedlings will be either maiden forms (lack of stamens) or have mutated anthers. It occurs often in garden plants and I have seen some examples of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis with similar results. Rick Lupp once made a wonderful cross of a pale pink H. acutiloba with a lovely deep pink H. nobilis var pyrenaica; the result is a stunning pink maiden with upright flowers and mottled acutiloba leaves. I think H. acutiloba has lots of potential for hybridization as well as within the pure species.

Interesting looking seedling Peppa. Of course H. acutiloba has great potential for hybridization. I know some are working with it in this purpose.
It is true that when used as mother plant, usually the seedlings resemble a lot with their 'mama', foliage and habit wise. It must be a character
transmitted through maternal genes. Also in other species crosses the seedlings inherit the foliage from the mother (like H. x media from H. transsilvanica x nobilis).

The only hybrid specimen I have from a controlled pollination (H. acutiloba x H.nobilis var. pyrenaica), also presents foliage typical of H. acutiloba and it is sterile.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 26, 2022, 07:15:25 PM
Nice to see more Hepatica flowering Herman and beautiful colors from H. nobilis Upico!

Unfortunately we are getting back to winter starting today, with low temp. predicted to -12C for next week. I don't know how the buds of some
Hepaticas will react. H. japonica and H. x media and H. transsilvanica are already showing the color. I can only pile more leaves on top and make use of a few blankets; fingers crossed.
H. japonica flower buds stage yesterday.
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H. transsilvanica 'Schwanensee' (from seeds) it will be the first flowering.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Peppa on March 27, 2022, 02:14:54 AM
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I am fascinated by H. acutiloba and have been working on them for a while.

Related to what Carsten mentioned in his previous post, it seems like maiden forms of H. acutiloba (mother plant) can also produce maiden form offspring. And like Gabriela mentioned, in my experience many of the maiden forms of H. acutiloba tend to be smaller sized flowers; I have put pollen from larger-flowered examples of H. actuiloba on these maiden flowers and the results seem to have larger flowers than the parent plant.

I have enjoyed everyone’s photos!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 27, 2022, 10:03:09 AM
Unfortunately we are getting back to winter starting today, with low temp. predicted to -12C for next week.

The same will be here, but most of my plants are still under snow and ice, so I don't know how they will be.
In the earliest spot native H.nobilis are well after a difficult winter (though it is not yet over), and even when the leaves have all gone bad (not in the picture), the fat buds are firm and ready to open when it gets warmer. They are really so hardy little plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 27, 2022, 02:46:08 PM
The same will be here, but most of my plants are still under snow and ice, so I don't know how they will be.
In the earliest spot native H.nobilis are well after a difficult winter (though it is not yet over), and even when the leaves have all gone bad (not in the picture), the fat buds are firm and ready to open when it gets warmer. They are really so hardy little plants.

Everything should be well under snow Leena. All my japonicas were looking super good after the snowmelt.
I am worried about the buds which are already a bit open, but nothing I can do. The cold will continue into April it seems. Some years, Hepaticas start flowering in the first week of April :'(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 27, 2022, 02:54:55 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I am fascinated by H. acutiloba and have been working on them for a while.

Related to what Carsten mentioned in his previous post, it seems like maiden forms of H. acutiloba (mother plant) can also produce maiden form offspring. And like Gabriela mentioned, in my experience many of the maiden forms of H. acutiloba tend to be smaller sized flowers; I have put pollen from larger-flowered examples of H. actuiloba on these maiden flowers and the results seem to have larger flowers than the parent plant.
I have enjoyed everyone’s photos!

Regarding maiden forms of acutiloba, here are 2 that I found only last year, one with tiny but colorful flowers.
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and a white one; it has just a few anthers which is good for confirmation of pure species (white connectives).
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Our spring will be short and intense, so I will post now the hybrid H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica I mentioned; it is not my cross, just to be clear. I don't have a breeding program for Hepaticas (yet). A most beautiful multipetala, the color is hard to catch; sterile, remains in flower very long.
Hepatica 'Ann'
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 27, 2022, 02:59:31 PM
And, I will take initiative  and show a just announced form of double H. acutiloba by Jürgen Peters - hold your breath :)

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on March 27, 2022, 09:59:37 PM
Here also two Acutiloba are in flower
'Ann' and semidouble deep blue
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on March 27, 2022, 10:03:56 PM
A few more:
H. transsilvanica 'Barbarossa'
H. transsilvanica 'Conny Greenfield'
H. Alba Plena 'Stockholm'
H. Alba Plena 'England'
H. Nobilis 'Edith'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 27, 2022, 10:27:05 PM
And, I will take initiative  and show a just announced form of double H. acutiloba by Jürgen Peters - hold your breath :)
Gabriela, it is indeed a very special acutiloba, is it a wild form?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on March 28, 2022, 08:27:08 AM
Gabriela and Mellifera, Hepatica 'Ann' looks really nice! :)
But the doubles, they are something else.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 28, 2022, 04:06:16 PM
Here also two Acutiloba are in flower
'Ann' and semidouble deep blue

Mellifera, let's please put the right names here for Hepaticas, when possible.

Hepatica 'Ann' it is a hybrid H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica, I just wrote about it a day ago. So, it shouldn't be given as H. acutiloba.
The semidouble is very beautiful but I also doubt it is pure acutiloba. Such color simply doesn't exist in its wild range.

Please also read Peppa posting, hybrid plants with parentage H. acutiloba as mother will show sharp-lobed leaves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on March 28, 2022, 04:16:28 PM
Gabriela, it is indeed a very special acutiloba, is it a wild form?

No Herman, it is not a wild form and he didn't give much details on FB, just that it came from a batch of seeds of some blue H. acutiloba.

Coincidental that we just discussed here about how hybrids with H. acutiloba  as mother will show sharp lobed leaves ;) But until proven wrong...

I wear out many hiking shoes by now scouting the woods and I can say that the deep blue with violet hues, while a common color for H. americana, it is not found in the wild range for H. acutiloba.
That's why I also noted about the color of the semidouble posted by Mellifera. A H. nobilis or H. japonica is involved for sure in parentage.
But again, one can write on the label whatever, as long as people are inclined to pay for them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 01, 2022, 09:40:16 AM
No Herman, it is not a wild form and he didn't give much details on FB, just that it came from a batch of seeds of some blue H. acutiloba.

Coincidental that we just discussed here about how hybrids with H. acutiloba  as mother will show sharp lobed leaves ;) But until proven wrong...

I wear out many hiking shoes by now scouting the woods and I can say that the deep blue with violet hues, while a common color for H. americana, it is not found in the wild range for H. acutiloba.
That's why I also noted about the color of the semidouble posted by Mellifera. A H. nobilis or H. japonica is involved for sure in parentage.
But again, one can write on the label whatever, as long as people are inclined to pay for them.
Thanks Gabriela, so it is probably not a pure acutiloba. Here it is winter again with melting snow and some frost at night. But next week the temperature will rising again.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 02, 2022, 03:21:08 PM
Thanks Gabriela, so it is probably not a pure acutiloba. Here it is winter again with melting snow and some frost at night. But next week the temperature will rising again.

Who knows Herman, that's the problem, it is impossible to say. I don't understand why some breeders won't give details for the new cultivars.
I personally would not care if it is a pure acutiloba or a hybrid, we can celebrate beautiful plants regardless of the name.

We had a return of the winter as well, next week looks to be milder here as well but not with much sun.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2022, 05:33:19 PM
Who knows Herman, that's the problem, it is impossible to say. I don't understand why some breeders won't give details for the new cultivars.
I personally would not care if it is a pure acutiloba or a hybrid, we can celebrate beautiful plants regardless of the name.

We had a return of the winter as well, next week looks to be milder here as well but not with much sun.
Might is be a case of raisers not always knowing the full parentage of their plants- it's always easier to know who the mother is, than the father!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 03, 2022, 04:16:29 PM
Might is be a case of raisers not always knowing the full parentage of their plants- it's always easier to know who the mother is, than the father!!

Of course Maggi. It is something well known, especially by professional breeders. Hence, it is a question of ethics when labeling the plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on April 05, 2022, 06:21:25 PM
Mellifera, let's please put the right names here for Hepaticas, when possible.

Hepatica 'Ann' it is a hybrid H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica, I just wrote about it a day ago. So, it shouldn't be given as H. acutiloba.
The semidouble is very beautiful but I also doubt it is pure acutiloba. Such color simply doesn't exist in its wild range.

Please also read Peppa posting, hybrid plants with parentage H. acutiloba as mother will show sharp-lobed leaves.

Gabriela, I agree with you. Sorry for that. 'Ann' is a hybrid for sure.
But semidouble dark blue is a real acutiloba from a guy in Danmark. I can ask again if it is a real one.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Simon R on April 06, 2022, 01:01:23 PM
I have been on a little journey to Andreas Händels open Hepatica weekend and this year it was just the right timing. The Hepatica were just beginning their peak flowering season. Also it was very nice to see some Plant enthusiasts in person again :)

His shade-quarters stood full of either plants in the ground or in pots. The plants in the ground were mostly already selected varieties that he is checking for their suitability to be introduced into cultivation or already introduced clones. Between those there were a lot of Corydalis, Eranthis and Ficaria as you can see on the photo. The plants in pots were mostly seedlings for sale.

It was nice to see that his Severin-Strain is coming up again after some of his plants vanished due to substrate problems as he said. A lot of red double or semidouble seedlings of H. nobilis were showing up among the first time bloomers.

As a little update, he said his Hepatica book might not make it to an english translation. It seems there are some disagreements between him and the photographer who took the flower-portraits. I don't know if that is commonly known already.

On the photos one can see H. n. alpa plena typ `Schlytter`, the Severin-Strain nobilis and some of his growing quarters.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 06, 2022, 04:42:36 PM
I have been on a little journey to Andreas Händels open Hepatica weekend and this year it was just the right timing. The Hepatica were just beginning their peak flowering season. Also it was very nice to see some Plant enthusiasts in person again :)

His shade-quarters stood full of either plants in the ground or in pots. The plants in the ground were mostly already selected varieties that he is checking for their suitability to be introduced into cultivation or already introduced clones. Between those there were a lot of Corydalis, Eranthis and Ficaria as you can see on the photo. The plants in pots were mostly seedlings for sale.

It was nice to see that his Severin-Strain is coming up again after some of his plants vanished due to substrate problems as he said. A lot of red double or semidouble seedlings of H. nobilis were showing up among the first time bloomers.

As a little update, he said his Hepatica book might not make it to an english translation. It seems there are some disagreements between him and the photographer who took the flower-portraits. I don't know if that is commonly known already.

On the photos one can see H. n. alpa plena typ `Schlytter`, the Severin-Strain nobilis and some of his growing quarters.
Simon, I wish I would also been there to see all those treasures! Have you more pictures?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Simon R on April 06, 2022, 05:41:21 PM
It really was a nice day Herman! I took some more pictures but the colors are not good, the reds and violet are difficult to capture, and i was busy looking and talking as well so i did not focus on taking a lot good quality photos :)

Maybe this one, also one from his Severin-Strain with Pollen.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 06, 2022, 09:20:55 PM
Gabriela, I agree with you. Sorry for that. 'Ann' is a hybrid for sure.
But semidouble dark blue is a real acutiloba from a guy in Danmark. I can ask again if it is a real one.

No problem Patrick. I answered your pm.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 06, 2022, 09:25:11 PM
It really was a nice day Herman! I took some more pictures but the colors are not good, the reds and violet are difficult to capture, and i was busy looking and talking as well so i did not focus on taking a lot good quality photos :)

Maybe this one, also one from his Severin-Strain with Pollen.

I bet you had a great day Simon! Worth entirely the little journey. Thanks for the pictures, indeed some colors are always hard to capture.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 08, 2022, 07:53:20 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica is still flowering.

Hepatica 'Millstream Merlin'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 08, 2022, 11:21:02 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica is still flowering.
Hepatica 'Millstream Merlin'

Very pretty, they probably had enough with the rain as well!
Same weather here, hoping for more constant warmth next week. The first H. japonica are flowering (trying) and H. transsilvanica and H. x media buds are semi-opened, so the Hepatica season is getting close :)
I couldn't abstain and took few bad pictures with a H. japonica.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 10, 2022, 07:44:03 AM
Simon, thank you for the pictures. :)

Gabriela, it is so nice to see the first flowers in spring, and your H.japonica seems to grow very well. Here it is still snow... >:(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 10, 2022, 03:19:43 PM
Simon, thank you for the pictures. :)
Gabriela, it is so nice to see the first flowers in spring, and your H.japonica seems to grow very well. Here it is still snow... >:(

Sorry to hear this Leena. It keeps snowing or it's not getting warm enough for the snow to melt?

Some years we had snow until late April as well, although is not happening too often. Now we face the danger of low night temp. without snow; it is hard to say what would be best, plants and people wise. Last year the Epimediums were pushed into growth too early; I hope for a gradual raise in temperatures this spring.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 10, 2022, 07:00:37 PM
Sorry to hear this Leena. It keeps snowing or it's not getting warm enough for the snow to melt?

The old snow is still there and we got 20cm more new snow last week, but this coming week should be warmer and hopefully it starts to melt.
The early April was 4-5C colder than average, and forecast says the rest of April will be also colder but not so much as the beginning, and anyway days are getting longer and sun will start to melt the snow. :) I hope!

I hope your Epimediums survive, and all other plants, too. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 10, 2022, 10:59:21 PM
Einfach mal ein paar Bilder dieser Saison,
kann sich schon mal ein altes einschmuggeln....

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 10, 2022, 11:02:44 PM
Das erste Bild ist neu,
die anderen Bilder sind schon älter
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 10, 2022, 11:05:07 PM
Das letzte heute, 11.4., im Wald, da gibt es blau pink und weiss
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on April 11, 2022, 07:28:46 AM
Das erste Bild ist neu,
die anderen Bilder sind schon älter

Very nice forms, Arthur! Thanks for sharing your special nobilis!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 11, 2022, 08:39:07 AM
Arthur, you are lucky with all this treasures. Thanks for sharing..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 12, 2022, 03:17:07 PM
The old snow is still there and we got 20cm more new snow last week, but this coming week should be warmer and hopefully it starts to melt.
The early April was 4-5C colder than average, and forecast says the rest of April will be also colder but not so much as the beginning, and anyway days are getting longer and sun will start to melt the snow. :) I hope!

I hope your Epimediums survive, and all other plants, too. :)

I wish you a fast snowmelt Leena!
The Epimediums were OK last year just some of the flowers were lost; they are pretty tough plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 12, 2022, 03:18:42 PM
A very nice display of Hepatica flowers Arthur!
So happy looking under the sun :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 16, 2022, 11:01:18 PM
 As a note of encouraging for those in cold climates, various H. japonica fared well a cold winter. Some spent the winter in the ground, others in pots but left outdoors (buried in the soil). So, the hardiness is OK; I cannot say how would they developed over years. Remains to be seen.
They were the first bursting into flower and maybe this is a minus, because very cold spells might destroy the buds.

Interesting to note that H. henryi (also in the ground) is just showing up now. So, species react differently than when grown in pots.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 16, 2022, 11:05:55 PM
 Two H. transsilvanica forms  grown from seeds are not flowering true to mother-plants. Not a big surprise and OK, since I only have a few H. transsilvanica.
The first one was grown from Schwanensee seeds and the second from Winterfreude.
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H. x media 'Silberprinzessin'
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Hepatica cross involving Cremar
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 16, 2022, 11:11:09 PM
Other H. nobilis are starting to flower, also H. acutiloba and H. americana. Unfortunately the weather is too cold and some days
the flowers don't open, or I don't manage good pictures.

H. nobilis 'Walter' (of last year)
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A young H. americana #1; that's how I called the mother plant and the seedling is true.
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And a picture taken in the woods today; it was about 4C so despite the sun the flowers wouldn't open. Maybe next week :)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 17, 2022, 07:51:14 AM
It is so nice to see flowering Hepaticas in pictures.
Arthur I enjoyed your H.nobilis pictures very much. :)
Gabriela, I agree with H.japonica hardiness.
Ice and snow has started to melt from where my most precious Hepaticas are, and most of H.japonica plants seem ok, but I'm afraid I have lost my H.pubescens. They could still come up from underground buds, as the ground is still frozen solid, I couldn't try to dig them up. I will see in a week or two.
But surprisingly H.japonicas growing close by seem ok. Here is 'Shirayuki' in bud! I'm so happy about them.
Native H.nobilis are also in bud in early spots, and they are fine though leaves are damaged by frosts. Also H.acutiloba and H.americana plants seem to be ok.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 17, 2022, 09:24:13 AM
Gabriela and Leena, good to see that your Hepatica season is going to start. I look forward to it very much.
Concerning H. japonica, the winter snow is probably the solution to keep them alive in the open garden.
Unfortunately I don't have real snow cover in winter. Even H. pubescens didn't come up again this year, I think I lost them.
Hepatica yamatutai in the garden has not flowered this year, but there are some leaves, so it is still alive.
Henryi and asiatica are doing well in our garden (till now).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 17, 2022, 10:58:23 AM
This year Hepatica acutiloba 'Louise Koehler' with only a few flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on April 17, 2022, 10:19:22 PM
Very nice Hepatica flowers posted here by every one. I am waiting for my hepaticas to bloom.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 19, 2022, 04:30:04 AM
Noch ein paar Bilder, es geht langsam zu Ende:

Das letzte ist mein dunkelster Findling.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 19, 2022, 04:33:20 AM

Der Sämling hat sich unter der Sitzbank einen schönen Platz gesucht

Den hab ich mal als Forest sehr günstig bekommen, hanblütig

Die gefüllten kann ich nicht auseinanderhalten

Von Carsten
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 19, 2022, 04:35:41 AM
auch von Carsten

eigener

henryi, rosa gefüllt, von Patrick, den ich nicht erreichen kann!

eigener Findling mit eleganter Form der Blütenblätter
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 19, 2022, 04:37:41 AM
So stehen hier viele im Garten

mal ein anderer Blickwinkel

Das ist sicher eine Sorte von trans., frühblühend
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 19, 2022, 06:20:33 AM
Arthur, great collection!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on April 19, 2022, 07:52:20 AM
Very nice Hepatica flowers posted here by every one. I am waiting for my hepaticas to bloom.

Your season starts when most of the flowers here are over. So nice to see the plants from December until May in different places in the world.

Arthur, very nice plants!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 19, 2022, 09:31:31 PM
Leena - your Hepatica have nice buds! Fingers crossed the others will emerge safely from the snow :)

Arthur - beautiful Hepatica flowers, especially nice to see on a snowy day.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on April 20, 2022, 09:17:08 AM
auch von Carsten

eigener

henryi, rosa gefüllt, von Patrick, den ich nicht erreichen kann!

eigener Findling mit eleganter Form der Blütenblätter

The blooms are lovely!  I struggle a little trying to translate the message

Marc
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2022, 02:05:04 PM
The blooms are lovely!  I struggle a little trying to translate the message

Marc
Go to the translation box at the upper right of the page - check another language that you do not know ( in this case it's German)  for  all the posts on the page to appear in that language - then click English and all will be translated for you.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on April 20, 2022, 06:33:53 PM
Thank You, Maggi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 22, 2022, 01:09:09 AM
I managed to take some pictures with H. americana yesterday in the woods but have to sort them out/resize. Until then, from the garden today  with a sun-surprise in the afternoon.
There is a corner with H. acutiloba and a maiden nobilis obtained random from a batch of seeds.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2022, 01:11:54 AM
A selection of Hepatica americana from the woods, unfortunately some flowers weren't open due to cold.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2022, 01:14:33 AM
And few cuties from the garden; here I can take pictures at the right moment :)
The darkest purple I've ever found - H. americana
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 23, 2022, 05:24:42 AM
I managed to take some pictures with H. americana yesterday in the woods but have to sort them out/resize. Until then, from the garden today  with a sun-surprise in the afternoon.
There is a corner with H. acutiloba and a maiden nobilis obtained random from a batch of seeds.
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The crenatiloba foliage belongs to this plant?

Beautiful, all very beautiful, very different from ours....
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 23, 2022, 07:57:23 AM
Gabriela, really nice flowers. I love your H.americana pastel flowers!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 23, 2022, 08:33:22 AM
Gabriela, great Hepatica's!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: ashley on April 23, 2022, 03:57:02 PM
Great to see the variability in these beautiful americana plants.  Thanks Gabriela.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2022, 06:29:22 PM
Thanks all, I am very fortunate to have all these beauties close to where I live :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on April 23, 2022, 06:30:25 PM
Gabriela,

Beautiful!  I wish that the H. americana in my area showed that kind of diversity.

All of mine are white.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2022, 06:32:57 PM
The crenatiloba foliage belongs to this plant?
Beautiful, all very beautiful, very different from ours....

The plant in question might be a hybrid with Cremar actually, as I said, a random seedling from a batch of seeds from someone who has many Hepatica in the garden, so cross pollination is easy.
I find it interesting that the tepals and calyces do 'mimic' the leaf margins.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2022, 06:38:13 PM
Speaking of H. nobilis, of which I don't have that many, there is a crenatuloba hybrid with nice color; pardon the not very good picture.
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And one very old variety I grew from seeds, so I'll give it as ex. I don't know how much it resemble the original one but is a very robust plant, with marbled leaves which fade later in the summer.
H. nobilis ex. 'Walter Peters'
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Those with an eye for Corydalis, the relatively large Corydalis leaves close to it belong to C. cava ssp. marschalliana; not in full flower yet.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Guff on April 23, 2022, 06:40:19 PM
White flowered. Years ago Lowes had bag packets of single plants for 1.00 each. Only plant that survived out of 15 that I bought.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on April 24, 2022, 04:16:42 AM
White flowered. Years ago Lowes had bag packets of single plants for 1.00 each. Only plant that survived out of 15 that I bought.
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Charming white colour Hepatica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: mellifera on April 25, 2022, 07:13:22 PM
Here slowly but surely the season ends.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on April 25, 2022, 09:23:37 PM
Wenig blüht noch, 22.4.

Das letzte ist normal pink
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 27, 2022, 07:00:55 PM
White flowered. Years ago Lowes had bag packets of single plants for 1.00 each. Only plant that survived out of 15 that I bought.

Quite a bargain Guff. I like the while flowered Hepatica , although I noticed many people are partial to the blue ones.

Here's a H. americana from my garden:
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 27, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
Lovely flowers mellifera and Arthur.

Another cold weather stretch till Friday here, with more Hepatica trying to flower.
Pictures with H. acutiloba taken a couple of days ago.
H. acutiloba 'Purple Star'
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 28, 2022, 01:00:54 PM
Very nice to see lovely Hepaticas everyone! I especially liked the white ones and multipetals ones.

Here Hepaticas in early places are flowering, in shady places not yet.
First our native H.nobilis.
Two nice multipetal Hepaticas, third is the darkest colour I have,
and fourth nice lighter blue, notice how deer had eaten the leaves last autumn so that only stems are left.
Fifth strong pink.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 28, 2022, 01:03:46 PM
Some more native ones.
Light pink which fade to almost white during flowering.
Third is 'Selma', fourth H.nobilis var pyrenaica 'Alba, grown from Dryad seeds.
Last picture is H.nobilis 'Rubra Plena'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 28, 2022, 01:06:19 PM
Two H.americana plants grown from Gabriela's seed. The other one is very pale blue, almost white.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on April 28, 2022, 01:11:50 PM
Most of my H.pubescens were lost last winter, and the ones left are not flowering. :(
H.japonica plants survived much better, and are slowly starting to flower.
The first to flower was H.japonica which I planted last spring, it is really nice blueish colour with darker stamens. I love it!
First picture is of it a week ago and then pictures from yesterday.
'Shirayuki' has increased well and is starting to flower. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on April 29, 2022, 05:29:01 PM
The Hepatica show is in full steam in your garden Leena!
I know how enjoyable that is :) The H. japonica with dark stamens is very pretty, always nice to have contrast with the flower color.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on April 29, 2022, 06:07:11 PM
Most of my H.pubescens were lost last winter, and the ones left are not flowering. :(
H.japonica plants survived much better, and are slowly starting to flower.
The first to flower was H.japonica which I planted last spring, it is really nice blueish colour with darker stamens. I love it!
First picture is of it a week ago and then pictures from yesterday.
'Shirayuki' has increased well and is starting to flower. :)
Very nice flowers, Leena!
My H. pubescens are also quite weak this spring and not all survived.
I have big problems with deer, too. They seem to like the fresh leaves  >:(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 29, 2022, 08:11:24 PM
Great Hepatica’s Leena! Here the seeds are starting  to get ready.
It is nice to see that the hepatica season is now starting in other countries. So we can still enjoy the flowers
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on April 30, 2022, 01:01:23 AM
I appreciated all the Hepaticas that were posted here. So many beautiful forms and colours.
Leena your Hepatica japonica pale blue with dark anthers is great. In our climate japonicas don't survive . I tried some  and none of them came back after the winter.
Here are some of the Hepaticas blooming in the garden. Still more to bloom.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on April 30, 2022, 01:18:04 AM
more hepaticas
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on April 30, 2022, 01:21:37 AM
few more
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on April 30, 2022, 01:41:48 AM
2 more
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on April 30, 2022, 02:10:07 AM
Quote from: Guff  White flowered. Years ago Lowes had bag packets of single plants for 1.00 each.

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Quite a bargain Guff. I like the while flowered Hepatica , although I noticed many people are partial to the blue ones.


Lowes Is a building contractor supply house similar to Home Depot.

They offer rootstock of many plants in sealed plastic bags.  Toward the end of Spring they need to get rid of the bagged rootstocks or take a loss on the unsold ones. By end of spting they are very stressed from not being in the ground and most die off.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 30, 2022, 10:30:16 AM
Kris, great Hepatica show in your garden!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on April 30, 2022, 12:39:04 PM
Super post from Kristl Walek ( who used to be a very regular poster here) o Facebook :

Contrary To What You Thought: Hepatica Is A Cheater

Myrmecochory (/mɜːrmᵻˈkɒkɔːri/ (sometimes myrmechory); from Ancient Greek: μύρμηξ mýrmēks and χορεία khoreíā "circular dance") is seed dispersal by ants, an ecologically significant ant-plant interaction with worldwide distribution is exhibited by more than 3,000 plant species worldwide, and is present in every major biome on all continents except Antarctica.

In nature, when there is success, there is often a cheater. Hepatica, a beautiful purple or white spring ephemeral flower that emerges before its leaves, is an unassuming swindler. Instead of providing a detachable treat for the ant, hepatica just covers its seed in a non-removable elaiosome with the same chemical cues as its neighbors’ true elaiosomes.

When ants take hepatica’s seeds back to the nest, the elaiosome can’t be eaten, and the chemical cues stay intact. Instead of being stripped of its packet of fatty goodness and thrown in the trash heap, the hepatica seed stimulates each ant that passes by to pick it up by the permanent, fatty handle and carry it somewhere else. Hepatica saves energy by not making a large elaiosome, and it benefits when its seeds are distributed more widely. In return for their dispersal services, the ants get nothing. Hepatica is a parasite!

If cheaters win, though, then pretty soon everyone starts cheating. For a mutualism (a symbiotic relationship where both parties benefit) to continue, it must provide appropriate rewards. Scientists have found that seeds with true, tasty, edible elaiosomes are transported by ants much more often than the cheater seeds of Hepatica and others like it. “In this situation, cheating … establishes a background against which better mutualists can display competitive superiority, thus leading…to the reinforcement of the mutualism (Pfeiffer et al, 2009).”

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on April 30, 2022, 02:07:55 PM
Kris, excellent plants! Thank you for sharing :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on May 01, 2022, 11:09:37 AM
Maggi,

I love the way you insert truly germaine articles into almost every thread!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Maggi Young on May 01, 2022, 03:57:01 PM
Maggi,

I love the way you insert truly germaine articles into almost every thread!
Thanks, Marc - if I see something of interest elsewhere I always try to share it here, where it will be able to be found for a looonnnngg time!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 01, 2022, 08:25:35 PM
Wow Kris - your Hepatica specimens are looking more beautiful then ever!
Especially those huge H. transsilvanica :) Hopefully mine will look the same in 10+ years :))
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 01, 2022, 08:42:51 PM
Super post from Kristl Walek ( who used to be a very regular poster here) o Facebook :

Contrary To What You Thought: Hepatica Is A Cheater
Myrmecochory (/mɜːrmᵻˈkɒkɔːri/ (sometimes myrmechory); from Ancient Greek: μύρμηξ mýrmēks and χορεία khoreíā "circular dance") is seed dispersal by ants, an ecologically significant ant-plant interaction with worldwide distribution is exhibited by more than 3,000 plant species worldwide, and is present in every major biome on all continents except Antarctica.

In nature, when there is success, there is often a cheater. Hepatica, a beautiful purple or white spring ephemeral flower that emerges before its leaves, is an unassuming swindler. Instead of providing a detachable treat for the ant, hepatica just covers its seed in a non-removable elaiosome with the same chemical cues as its neighbors’ true elaiosomes.

When ants take hepatica’s seeds back to the nest, the elaiosome can’t be eaten, and the chemical cues stay intact. Instead of being stripped of its packet of fatty goodness and thrown in the trash heap, the hepatica seed stimulates each ant that passes by to pick it up by the permanent, fatty handle and carry it somewhere else. Hepatica saves energy by not making a large elaiosome, and it benefits when its seeds are distributed more widely. In return for their dispersal services, the ants get nothing. Hepatica is a parasite!

If cheaters win, though, then pretty soon everyone starts cheating. For a mutualism (a symbiotic relationship where both parties benefit) to continue, it must provide appropriate rewards. Scientists have found that seeds with true, tasty, edible elaiosomes are transported by ants much more often than the cheater seeds of Hepatica and others like it. “In this situation, cheating … establishes a background against which better mutualists can display competitive superiority, thus leading…to the reinforcement of the mutualism (Pfeiffer et al, 2009).”

Maggi, it is true that in the past mymecochory research was focused more on the plant benefits than examining ant benefits. But it had changed direction since. It's been known by now that various species of ants can be involved in mymecochory in different ways, for ex. some are eating the elaiosomes on the spot without transporting the seeds at all.
There is consensus that myrmecochore interactions are obligate for plants and facultative for ants, which means, ants can do very well without any of the plants with seeds with elaiosomes.

True that some plants are cheaters, by having elaiosomes with lower oleic acid content but the wording is not quite correct in few regards here:
there are no 'true' elaiosomes, just because there are no 'fake' ones. And also the word 'parasite' has a completely different meaning.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 01, 2022, 08:46:04 PM
Speaking of seeds, despite the late, cold spring, in a trip to some woods not so far from where I live, I was surprised to find H. acutiloba past flowering with new foliage.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 05, 2022, 02:04:38 AM
Hepaticas are still flowering in the garden and some of them are still in buds. The North American Hepaticas are not fully bloomed.
Here are two Hepaticas I got from Gabriela. Very nice flowers and multipetal. They are still small. I hope they will have more flowers next year.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 05, 2022, 02:20:06 AM
Few more interesting ones I got from Garden friends in the Hepatica thread. I got them as seeds labelled cross between Hepatica nobilisXH.bergfexing.  The seedlings were very robust and lots of them survived our cold winter. I got few of them dark purple, pinkish and few with the petaloid pistils with anthers. Some I got maiden flowers. The maiden ones are still not fully opened. I will take few pictures later and post it here.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 05, 2022, 02:29:50 AM
I have one Bergfexing cross maiden flower that opened. Still small seedling but I think it is a maiden. One more Hepatica. The Beautiful Hepatica nobilis "rubraplena"
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 05, 2022, 07:30:54 AM
Kris, the multipetale forms are very beautiful. Concerning the crosses from Bergfexing, you should definitely take seed from it and sow it again for new surprises.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Carsten on May 05, 2022, 07:39:54 AM
Few more interesting ones I got from Garden friends in the Hepatica thread. I got them as seeds labelled cross between Hepatica nobilisXH.bergfexing.  The seedlings were very robust and lots of them survived our cold winter. I got few of them dark purple, pinkish and few with the petaloid pistils with anthers. Some I got maiden flowers. The maiden ones are still not fully opened. I will take few pictures later and post it here.
Congratulations, Kris! Excellent range in the seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on May 05, 2022, 10:44:49 AM
Kris, you have really nice Hepaticas, and such big clumps of older ones!
Here to my surprise my Hepatica transsylvanica plants have suffered a lot last winter, and some show no sign of life yet.
I earlier wrote that all my older H.pubescens plants have died, but now couple are starting to grow and are not dead, though I don't know if they will flower.
Here is picture of a white H.pubescens planted last summer. Really pretty and I'm so happy it has survived.
'Hakurin' is doing well, and also 'Shirayuki'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 05, 2022, 12:54:37 PM
Kris, you have really nice Hepaticas, and such big clumps of older ones!
Here to my surprise my Hepatica transsylvanica plants have suffered a lot last winter, and some show no sign of life yet.
I earlier wrote that all my older H.pubescens plants have died, but now couple are starting to grow and are not dead, though I don't know if they will flower.
Here is picture of a white H.pubescens planted last summer. Really pretty and I'm so happy it has survived.
'Hakurin' is doing well, and also 'Shirayuki'
Leena, good to hear that some of your pubescens survived. Snow covering is probably the best way to survive. Here finally H. yamatutai also showed some leaves but no flower this year. Still no leaves at my pubescens. Now it is here very dry, the plants are begging for rain.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 05, 2022, 06:18:31 PM
Thank you Carsten and Herman.   I am really excited about the flowers. I am also crossing them in my amateur way. I don't have any experience in crossing before. But read some articles online and follow that.
Leena it is really surprising to see that your weather is not that favourable to Hepaticas like ours. I am not an expert in growing plants. I visited my friends garden yesterday and her garden has also lots and lots of Hepaticas with full head of flowers. I think the cold weather in winter may be helping us.
Here are some more pictures taken today from the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 05, 2022, 06:20:28 PM
Leena your Hepaticas with pristine white flowers are amazing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on May 05, 2022, 07:39:13 PM
Thank you Kris, I like them very much, too. :)

Leena it is really surprising to see that your weather is not that favourable to Hepaticas like ours. I am not an expert in growing plants. I visited my friends garden yesterday and her garden has also lots and lots of Hepaticas with full head of flowers. I think the cold weather in winter may be helping us.

You probably had a lot of snow when it was cold. Like Herman wrote snow would be best for Hepaticas. :)
Here it was cold without any snow in the beginning of winter, and then in January a warm spell with a lot of rain, before cold and snow came back.
This winter was not usual, but who knows if weather here is going to be like this also in the future.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 05, 2022, 11:11:23 PM
I agree with you Leena. When we also had warm weather in January sometime ago lots of plants suffered. Last year we had very cold temperature but  record amount of snow.
I think that helped the Hepaticas
Some more seedlings from the garden today
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: kris on May 08, 2022, 09:14:55 PM
Here are  two more 1.Hepatica nobilis and 2. cross with Bergfexing.
Both are lovely.  I hope to grow them to be nice plants in the future.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on May 09, 2022, 03:42:57 AM
Beautiful blooms, Kris.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 09, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Lots of Hepatica plants and seedlings Kris! All beautiful, interesting to see all the seedlings from Bergfexing cross.

Kris, you have really nice Hepaticas, and such big clumps of older ones!
Here to my surprise my Hepatica transsylvanica plants have suffered a lot last winter, and some show no sign of life yet.
I earlier wrote that all my older H.pubescens plants have died, but now couple are starting to grow and are not dead, though I don't know if they will flower. Here is picture of a white H.pubescens planted last summer. Really pretty and I'm so happy it has survived.
'Hakurin' is doing well, and also 'Shirayuki'

Happy that your pubescens is up and well Leena :) plus the H. japonica forms.
Also H. transsilvanica didn't perform too great after a super cold winter. The foliage grows well now but some didn't flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 09, 2022, 10:39:31 PM
Few H. americana from last week hiking, probably done by now with our spring turning fast into summer.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 09, 2022, 10:49:32 PM
In the garden, few are still in flower:
H. americana with a multipetal tendency I like to say. There must be a gene (or more) that doesn't switch so easily for doubling, like it happens in H. nobilis and H. japonica.
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An odd H. americana because usually the new foliage is not bronze, this is specific for H. acutiloba.
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It wasn't a great spring for H. acutiloba in general. They flower a bit earlier when it was very cold and rainy. One that still holds on.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 10, 2022, 07:27:46 AM
Gabriela, beautiful Hepatica’s, thanks for showing. It seems that this year everywere it is a less flowering year for the Hepatica’s.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on May 10, 2022, 06:25:20 PM
Kris, you have so nice first time flowering Hepaticas!

Gabriela, beautiful plants and pictures! I like so much your multipetal flowers, and also the one with dark foliage is special. Here my multipetal plants are still in bud, but they have all survived winter well, as they should.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Simon R on May 11, 2022, 02:31:17 PM
Flowering Time is over and i have already sown my seeds but i found some time now.
I have posted this somewhere else before.

Two Hepatica japonica very well suited for cross pollination
the color on both is actually different (blues and violets are difficult to capture), as a good friend of me put it this season "some of these flowers have to be seen in reality" 🙂
The white nichirin-zaki with the dots, called sudare-line in Japanese (for the sake of simplicity we call it cow-spots) has deeply violet markings and a ring of just as violet mutated Anthers
The other one, also a nichirin-zaki is just plain deep violet, and way darker than the picture shows

The Bergfexing children are very interesting kris!
What a nice selection Gabriela!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 11, 2022, 08:17:04 PM
Gabriela, beautiful Hepatica’s, thanks for showing. It seems that this year everywere it is a less flowering year for the Hepatica’s.

Yes the flowering wasn't too great Herman, but also the unfavorable weather during flowering made it for fewer pictures, especially taken in the wild. A couple of times I went into the woods in April, it was too cold for the flowers to open.

Thanks Simon - interesting japonicas, who knows how many seedlings with 'cow-spots' will now arise :) I didn't know about this term.

Leena - the white one is much prettier in reality; the flower start with a light lilac hue and open to white.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Simon R on May 17, 2022, 04:31:41 PM
It is foliage time! All of these are Hepatica nobilis
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Starking007 on May 18, 2022, 05:03:18 AM

Very interesting, just got some recently, looking forward to the seedlings!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on May 21, 2022, 06:40:10 PM
Here the last Hepaticas are still flowering but going over soon. These pictures are from the past week.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on May 21, 2022, 06:43:10 PM
Some more. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 21, 2022, 07:28:24 PM
Leena, great Hepatica's!
They seems to flower very well in your garden for this year.
The drought and high temperatures are finally over here. Next week there will be some more rain and normal temperature around 20°C.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 21, 2022, 09:07:57 PM
Nice foliage Simon. After the flowers are gone, what else remains :)
It is great to have marbled foliage for Hepatica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Gabriela on May 21, 2022, 09:10:03 PM
Here the last Hepaticas are still flowering but going over soon. These pictures are from the past week.

Despite the late spring the Hepaticas are looking great Leena! Including the japonicas; tough little plants.
Here we are approaching the seeds season, it's been unusual warm for the first part of May.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on May 22, 2022, 08:03:47 AM
Gabriela, thank you. :) H.japonicas seem quite tough here, more than I thought. After few more years I will be wondering how to tell self sown seedlings apart from H.nobilis seedlings. :) I hope.

Leena, great Hepatica's!
They seems to flower very well in your garden for this year.

Thank you Herman! Mostly they are doing well, I lost some this bad winter, but most of them are doing very well, and I am so happy with them!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: MarcR on May 23, 2022, 06:18:55 AM
Here, the temperatues have been unseasonably cold and much more rain than usual. We have had 57 inches [143 cm] since October. many things that are usually early have not broken dormancy yet.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on June 02, 2022, 09:35:15 AM
Last of my flowering Hepaticas, picture taken last week-end. 
'Louise Kohler'
I have thought this is sterile form, but what do you think of the pistils of the two left flowers?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on June 02, 2022, 10:20:05 AM
Last of my flowering Hepaticas, picture taken last week-end. 
'Louise Kohler'
I have thought this is sterile form, but what do you think of the pistils of the two left flowers?
Leena, nice clump from Hepatica acutiloba 'Louise Koehler', here there were only a few flowers.
Nice to see some pistils, have you at the moment other acutiloba in flower to cross with? It is worth to try.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Leena on June 02, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
Nice to see some pistils, have you at the moment other acutiloba in flower to cross with? It is worth to try.

Unfortunately no  :(, all other H.acutiloba flowered earlier. Maybe 'Louise Kohler' grows in more shady spot and that is why it is later flowering.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2022
Post by: Herman Mylemans on June 02, 2022, 11:13:16 AM
Unfortunately no  :(, all other H.acutiloba flowered earlier. Maybe 'Louise Kohler' grows in more shady spot and that is why it is later flowering.
Leena, here it is also later in flower (April) then the others.
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