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Title: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Yann on January 10, 2021, 09:04:50 PM
Iris hyrcana, and easy one, more to come as 7-8 buds are ready to open in few days.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on January 11, 2021, 05:57:36 AM
do you manage to multiply them by seed?
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Alan McMurtrie on January 11, 2021, 02:08:13 PM
I have just updated www.Reticulatas.com (http://www.Reticulatas.com) with over 500 photos from 2020.  The site shows a lot of my work to-date; including parentage.  It focuses on 2n=18 Reticulatas since that's where I've opened up a whole new world of colours and patterns.  It's hard to know what is possible until it "magically" appears.  It's always a treat to see what opens for the first time each Spring.  In the past, working with 2n=20 species and hybrids, I'd just get more of the same -- more blues and purples.  I specifically tried to acquire collected forms with different genetics to what was in commerce in order to try to open up the expression in hybrids, but it didn't make a lot of difference.  More collected forms are available now than in the 80s and 90s.  At the time, White Caucasus showed promise, but since I was getting much more dramatic results from the 2n=18 hybrids I focused on those [see www.reticulatas.com/1998-101.html (http://www.reticulatas.com/1998-101.html) and compare results from the 98-OO and 98-NP crosses to the 98-YS cross which gave Holland Glory].  In recent years I have made some crosses (dabbled) with White Caucasus.  We now know Norman Steven's Halkis is 2n=18, and the Adiyaman Retic is 2n=16 (I'm surprised how difficult its been to get to bloom -- it seemed to do well for John Amand), and we have the stoloniferous Iris sisianica [which has been converted to tetraploid, but material has not yet been delivered -- hopefully Fall 2021; but it could then be 2 years before it blooms (i.e. Spring 2024)].  Exciting possibilities for the future...

Variety is the spice of life.

I look forward to seeing what SRGC members post in 2021 -- old favourites, collected forms, etc.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Yann on January 12, 2021, 09:09:38 PM
do you manage to multiply them by seed?

Yes and i already cutted spares.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Roma on March 12, 2021, 10:45:36 PM
Iris 'Alida'

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Iris 'Clairette'

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Iris 'Sheila Anne Germany'

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Not sure about this one.  It came as 'Halkis' which it isn't.  'Spot On'?  'Fabiola' ?

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Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Alan McMurtrie on March 14, 2021, 09:34:30 PM
Leopard (12-IO-1) blooming for the first time in Holland
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North Star -- a touch past peak bloom
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07-CU-3
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Eye Catcher [tetraploid]
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It's Magic [tetrploid]
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Note: photos were taken by Jan Ligthart in Holland
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Joakim B on March 19, 2021, 09:19:00 PM
Nice ones Alan
Hope they soon will be in numbers so a lot can get them :)
They are quite striking
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 09:53:46 AM
The following sets of photos are  from the Iris collection of Dimitri Zubov -  Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris

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I. kurbanovii, Turkmenistan &   'Orange Glow'


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'Orange Glow'
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 09:59:02 AM
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'Dubonair'    ( Debonair?)

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'Sea Green'

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I. reticulata 'Spot On' &  I. reticulata ex Peter Taggart

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I. reticulata ex Peter Taggart
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 10:01:47 AM
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I. reticulata ex Peter Taggart

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I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel' & I. reticulata 'Spot On' & ex Peter Taggart

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I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel'


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I. histrio subsp. aintabensis, Gaziantep, S Turkey


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I. hymenospatha subsp. leptoneura, Zagros Range, Iran
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 10:05:29 AM
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I. hyrcana, Lerik, Azerbaihan & I. reticulata, Olang Pass, NE Iran

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I. kurdica, Turkey


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I. kurdica, Turkey

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I. kurdica, Turkey


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I. reticulata Kuhha-e-Abr, Iran
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 10:10:48 AM
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I. reticulata Kuhha-e-Abr, Iran

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I. reticulata, Alvand, W Iran

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I. reticulata, Ardabil, Iran


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I. reticulata, Arevik Mnts, Zangezur Range, Armenia & I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel' 

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I. reticulata, Arevik Mnts, Zangezur Range, Armenia & I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel'
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 10:14:00 AM
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I. reticulata, Olang Pass, NE Iran (left) & I. hyrcana, Lerik, Talysh, Azerbaijan

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I. rosenbachiana Harangon & Tovilj-Dara, Tajikistan

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I. rosenbachiana Harangon & Tovilj-Dara, Tajikistan


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I. rosenbachiana Harangon, Tajikistan

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I. rosenbachiana Varzob (right) & Harangon (left), Tajikistan
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 10:16:41 AM
Thanks to Dima for these  photos!


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I. rosenbachiana Varzob, Tajikistan

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I. zagrica, Zagros Range, Iran


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I. reticulata, Delaman, Iran

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I. reticulata, Delaman, Iran


Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: hamparstum on March 30, 2021, 11:23:29 AM
Thank you Maggie for uploading these photos!. My eyes are overwhelmed with so many little treasures! I only hope one day to grow these since most come from regions quite similar to mine. a lot of work ahead, starting with accessing seeds. We all hope that the pandemic will become harnessed and normal procedures can be re-instated. Meanwhile these beautiful photos are a balm.
Arturo
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Gabriela on March 30, 2021, 07:13:15 PM
Thanks for posting these Maggi. They are all so lovely and Iris reticulata has so many beautiful wild forms.
I hardly see any difference from some of the named cultivars (they just probably sell better having a name).

Iris rosenbachiana is a dream!
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Tristan_He on March 30, 2021, 08:36:53 PM
Yes, thanks for sharing Dimitri and for posting Maggi. That's a stunning collection of beautiful Iris. I wish I could grow half of these but our wet climate is less than ideal for these beauties, so I'll have to admire from afar. Is the I. rosenbachiana growing outside?
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 09:26:13 PM
Dima has them all growing outside as  far  as  I  know, Tristan.  He may give  some  a  cover  in the  worst  weather, I'm not  sure.
 A few  new  Iris pix from Dima today .....

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Iris hymenospatha subsp. leptoneura, W Iran

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 Iris rosenbachiana Tovilj-Dara, Tajikistan

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Iris kurdica, Turkey & Iris x histrioides 'Frank Elder'

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Iris reticulata, Adiyaman, S Turkey &  'Spot On'

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Iris reticulata, Adiyaman, S Turkey
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2021, 09:30:26 PM
Another  from Dima
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Iris reticulata, Ardabil, W Iran
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 21, 2021, 04:42:56 PM
The first retic for the year is 'Purple Gem' which we got from Hillview 3 years ago,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 30, 2021, 04:05:03 PM
A week later and a few more 'Purple Gem' have emerged,
cheers
fermi   
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 08, 2021, 02:18:58 PM
Jon B (mini-bulblover) raised this one from seed from  Alan McMurtrie - seed labelled "04 IM"
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on November 21, 2021, 11:22:29 AM
The first of the new growing season - Iris vartanii
Always this early and as a result vulnerable to frost damage in a bad winter.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: ashley on November 21, 2021, 12:08:40 PM
Very nice Luc.  From seed?  I failed with germination :(
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on November 21, 2021, 01:36:05 PM
Very nice Luc.  From seed?  I failed with germination :(
From 1 bulb as present.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 06, 2022, 07:31:18 PM
The first Iris reticulata in the rockgarden - a collection from Qobustan, Azerbaijan
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 06, 2022, 07:33:27 PM
And the first juno of the new season sown in the winter of 2017/18 - Iris rosenbachiana
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 14, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
Another Iris rosenbachiana
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on January 14, 2022, 08:44:41 PM
Another Iris rosenbachiana
Even more beautiful than the first, Luc!
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 17, 2022, 06:54:47 PM
A species that flowers early in the season with developed leaves is this Iris paelestina, here in a yellow form.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on January 18, 2022, 01:27:07 PM
Lovely early growth from Iris palaestina, Luc.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 20, 2022, 03:57:03 PM
The first of the Iris nicolai in flower.  Nicolai and rosenbachiana are very closely related for me.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 29, 2022, 06:22:46 PM
A new plant in the collection is this Iris reticulata from Turkey with very dark flowers
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 30, 2022, 07:17:03 PM
A collection of Iris reticulata from the Alvand Mnts. in Iran
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on January 30, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
Another Iris reticulata, now from a seedcollection in the Ziyaret Mnts of Turkey.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 06:43:47 PM
Iris rosenbachiana
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 07:27:59 PM
Iris tubergeniana from Kazakhstan

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Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 07:29:37 PM
Iris nicolai, for me a very nice exemple and seedraised.

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Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 04, 2022, 06:50:43 PM
Iris rosenbachiana "Vahsh"
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: tonyg on February 07, 2022, 09:54:10 PM
Remembering Zhirair.   
A seedling raised from Armenian Iris reticulata sent to me by sadly missed forumist Zhirair Basmayjan
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on February 08, 2022, 12:55:08 PM
Remembering Zhirair.   
A seedling raised from Armenian Iris reticulata sent to me by sadly missed forumist Zhirair Basmayjan
  What a lovely plant to remember our lost friend, Tony.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 08, 2022, 07:46:09 PM
Iris nicolai Sina
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 08, 2022, 07:48:00 PM
Two yellow juno's separable by the wings to the falls :
Iris svetlanae with wings and Iris bucharica from Afghanistan without wings
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 12, 2022, 10:11:40 AM
One of the Iris rosenbachiana from a 2015 seedpot
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 12, 2022, 10:12:15 AM
Iris galatica
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 17, 2022, 04:50:37 PM
Two more juno's
Iris tubergeniana
Iris kuschakewiczii
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on February 21, 2022, 06:45:31 PM
Iris willmottiana
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Roma on February 24, 2022, 12:28:29 PM
This was a surprise. About 18 months ago I planted out some of my potted reticulata and histrioides type irises. I am having trouble repotting them every year and must try to do the rest + the crocuses this year.  This bed has been built up using used potting soil.  There was no label near this iris so I don't know if I saw the bulb when I depotted the compost.

Iris 'Dance On'

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At the other end of the bed (with labels) are Iris 'Reine Immaculee', 'Katherine's Gold' and one Iris histrioides 'Major' which I need to move to where the rest of them are planted. Pictures to follow.  Just discovered I haven't resized them yet



Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Roma on February 24, 2022, 09:35:53 PM
Iris histrioides 'Reine Immaculee'

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Iris 'Katherine's Gold'

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There's another one coming up with no label.  I do have an idea but will wait and see.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 06, 2022, 12:19:58 PM
Iris hippolyti
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 12, 2022, 07:29:56 PM
Iris caucasica from Iran with a distinct green-yellow flower
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 12, 2022, 07:30:30 PM
iris pseudocapnoides
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 15, 2022, 12:22:19 PM
An old man made cross between iris bucharica and iris vicaria.
Seeds were sold via the Archibald list under JJA6575495
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 15, 2022, 12:23:46 PM
One of the easiest species of the junos.
Iris magnifica
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 15, 2022, 12:24:53 PM
One of the first iris outside in the rockgarden.
Iris attica from Greece
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 18, 2022, 03:13:11 PM
Two collections of Iris bucharica.
The first is a "normal" form from the trade, the 2nd is a collection from Tadjikistan and much shorter
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 20, 2022, 07:11:07 PM
The last of the reticulatas.  Iris sisianica, a stoloniferous species from Armenia
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 20, 2022, 07:14:45 PM
Maybe the best Iris bucharica, the all yellow Iris bucharica "Top Gold"
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 29, 2022, 07:51:14 PM
Iris caucasica subsp. turcica
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on March 29, 2022, 07:54:36 PM
A few iris from the rockgarden.
Iris lutescens in a very dark blue and a white form
Iris pumila atroviolacea
Iris pumila from Holubec seed
Iris reichenbachii in a blue colour
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Maggi Young on March 30, 2022, 01:01:38 PM
The last of the reticulatas.  Iris sisianica, a stoloniferous species from Armenia

 First described in this issue of International Rock Gardener by Zubov and Bondarenko ;
http://reticulatas.com/Documents/Iris%20sisianica%20--%202018%20March%20International%20Rock%20Gardener.pdf
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on April 17, 2022, 03:33:22 PM
Iris humilis
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: LucS on April 17, 2022, 03:34:53 PM
 The most remarkable Iris pumila, an Archibald collection under JJA199590.
Very slow to multiply and not always easy to flower well
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Alan McMurtrie on April 18, 2022, 10:41:13 PM
ACW 1266 was collected in 1966 by S. Albury, M. Cheese, and J. Watson.  The original field notes of the ACW expedition to Turkey in 1966 state:
- Col 24/5/66
- Exp reference no 1266
- Height 4 inches
- Of common distribution at 1800m.
- Found in high grass pasturage at base of rocky outcrops on north slopes in the province or Siirt in S E Turkey.

Amazingly it turns out ACW 1266 is the Retic we know as Halkis.  In the 1990s Norman Stevens collected some bulbs in the Halkis mountains east and a touch south of Lake Van (Green on map below).  A Dutch bulb grower applied for Plant Breeder Rights under the name Halkis, which were granted in 2007.  Halkis Daği is about 60km outside of Siirt Province, in Batman Province.

The question is: is Halkis a form of Iris sophenensis or is it a unique species on it's own?  Per Tony Hall, its chromosome count is 2n=18.
The photos below show how similar ACW 1266 is to Halkis.  Note: in both cases the fall blotch starts off quite dark when the flowers open

ACW 1266
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Halkis  Note: the two flowers at the bottom on either side are just opening and have dark Fall blotches
(At the bottom left is a Hop Pass form of Iris sophenensis)
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ACW 1266
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Halkis
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Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Alan McMurtrie on April 18, 2022, 11:28:30 PM
In 2017 Leopard (12-IO-1) bloomed for the very first time.

5 years later the first seedling from it bloomed: 17-BC-1  (05-GQ-1 x 12-IO-1)
It is very surprising that the seedling looks a lot like its pollen parent.
Just like Leopard, 17-BC-1's 'orange' fades over time -- but this is a nice effect

Leopard (12-IO-1)
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17-BC-1 March 31, 2022
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17-BC-1 Apr 3
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17-BC-1 Apr 6
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17-BC-1 Apr 7
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Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: ashley on April 19, 2022, 11:50:49 AM
Magnificent 8)
Many thanks for showing these beautiful hybrids Alan.
Title: Re: Iris reticulata season - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
Post by: Alan McMurtrie on April 22, 2022, 02:17:49 AM
17-CR-1
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15-CS-1
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13-AU-1
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18-DX-1
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18-BT-1  --  seems to be a true blue (no hint of purple mixing in)
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