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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Gerdk on November 12, 2020, 10:46:50 AM

Title: Narcissus November 2020
Post by: Gerdk on November 12, 2020, 10:46:50 AM: Here is a late Narcissus x alleniae

Gerd
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Post by: annew on November 18, 2020, 04:53:42 PM: Delicate and beautiful, Gerd.
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Post by: Gerdk on November 19, 2020, 08:40:50 AM: Thank you Anne!
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Post by: annew on November 21, 2020, 05:10:11 PM: In the greenhouse, the first narcissus into flower this year is Craigton Chorister.
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Post by: ashley on November 21, 2020, 05:40:05 PM: Such beautiful plants!
The first here is N. albidus v. zaianicus f. albus nowadays sunk in N. romieuxii I think.
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Post by: Ken Devine on November 22, 2020, 03:16:12 PM: More narcissus flowering in Cork ! N. romieuxii albidas var zaianicus, N. cantabricus monophyllus and Ian's N. Craigton clumber. All plants are flowering for the first time, grown from SRGC seed.
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Post by: annew on November 22, 2020, 03:31:16 PM: They cheer you up don't they? :D
(PS don't forget the 'ex' before Craigton Clumper if it's a seedling)
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Post by: Ken Devine on November 22, 2020, 10:45:58 PM: Ann, thanks for the reminder, they are all “ex’s” from seed. Will miss the seed exchange this year.
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Post by: Gail on November 23, 2020, 08:23:52 PM: I had a day off today and went to Westacre Gardens near Swaffham. Some late nerines, liriopes and salvias in flower and somewhat unexpectedly a bulbocodium type narcissus. I was so delighted to find a plant of Daphne bholua 'Garden House Ghost' in their nursery which has been on my wish list for a while that I forgot to ask them about the narcissus. Does anyone know which one it is?
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Post by: annew on November 24, 2020, 05:12:44 PM: Curiously, it looks like N. obesus, which is usually very late.
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Post by: annew on November 24, 2020, 05:13:14 PM: First flowers on Narcissus 'Shiraume', a gift from Japan :-*
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Post by: Maggi Young on November 24, 2020, 08:07:49 PM: Quote from: annew on November 24, 2020, 05:13:14 PM
First flowers on Narcissus 'Shiraume', a gift from Japan :-*
I fell in love with this little beauty when I first saw its photo here in 2016! https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13879.msg347549#msg347549

Does the name have an English meaning?
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Post by: annew on November 24, 2020, 10:32:53 PM: Google suggests it is a hotel in Kyoto...
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Post by: Diane Whitehead on November 25, 2020, 12:08:07 AM: Shiroi means white, so it might be referring to the pale colour.
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Post by: rob krejzl on November 25, 2020, 05:47:05 AM: I'd suggest that, since Shiraume is composed of the words for white and plum, the name is meant to be taken literally; a flower that evokes an image of plum flowers.
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Post by: Stefan B. on November 25, 2020, 07:46:15 AM: 'Shiraume' means: white plum blossoms; white Japanese apricot; white-blossomed plum
https://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/dictionary/entry_details.cfm?entry_id=80519&
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Post by: annew on November 25, 2020, 09:35:10 AM: Ah- the hotel boasts two 100-year-old red and white plum trees near its entrance. Anybody know how to pronounce it properly?
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Post by: Maggi Young on November 25, 2020, 11:19:59 AM: Aha! We're getting there! Perhaps Tatsuo or another of our Japanese members can advise more?
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Post by: koneko on November 25, 2020, 02:07:43 PM: They mentioned this point already. It means white plum.(白梅)
In addition, plum blossoms are considered culturally lucky charm in Japan because they bloom beautifully during the cold season,
and I guess that the flower name are more symbolic mean than similarity.
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Post by: Yann on December 07, 2020, 07:08:07 AM: Quote from: annew on November 24, 2020, 05:13:14 PM
First flowers on Narcissus 'Shiraume', a gift from Japan :-*

is it an hybrid?
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Post by: Tristan_He on December 12, 2020, 12:26:58 PM: Narcissus 'Telesto' from Anne this year. It's a super thing!

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