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Title: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 03, 2020, 12:36:13 PM
These are autumn flowering Narcissus serotinus  and N. elegans -
both originally from Spain

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gail on October 03, 2020, 12:46:56 PM
Delightful! Thanks Gerd.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 03, 2020, 04:55:55 PM
Are they scented?
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 04, 2020, 08:57:55 AM
Thanks for compliments!

N. serotinus has a nice scent - the other one not (at least not at a temperature of + 10 Celsius this morning).

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Yann on October 09, 2020, 09:01:01 PM
another serotinus, liliput one from seeds i collected near near Aktounta, GR in very warm january 2015 as well as i can remind.
First flowers this year, it's smell so strong that the suave perfum is all around the house.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Yann on October 14, 2020, 10:42:22 PM
First viridiflorus of the season, very tiny form.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 19, 2020, 05:38:14 PM
These are

Narcissus deficiens (miniatus) in an orange tone
                                            in a yellowish tone (colour not true reproduced here)  + see extra petals!
                                            and with a 'normal' deficiens for comparison

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on October 19, 2020, 06:10:39 PM
Each one  has  its  own charm, Gerd!
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 20, 2020, 08:52:45 AM
Thank you Maggi!

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 23, 2020, 10:58:30 AM
New photos from the autumn flowerers

1. + 2. Narcissus deficiens (miniatus) from Areopoli/Greece - thanks to Yann
3.        same species from Avakas/Cyprus

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gail on October 23, 2020, 09:28:45 PM
Those are beautiful Gerd. Narcissus viridiflorus here;
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Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 24, 2020, 09:11:42 AM
Thank you Gail - your viridiflorus are very well represented!

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: annew on October 27, 2020, 02:53:15 PM
I am finding it difficult to follow the various names for the autumn-flowerers.
I received this as N. serotinus, but it may be N. obsoletus. Any comments please!
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 27, 2020, 06:04:29 PM
I am finding it difficult to follow the various names for the autumn-flowerers.
I received this as N. serotinus, but it may be N. obsoletus. Any comments please!

Without any doubt not Narcissus serotinus L. - Spanish specialists call it deficiens (miniatus) now - I am in the process of to become accustomed to this.

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: annew on October 27, 2020, 07:24:01 PM
Ha!  ;D ;D
What should I put on the label - N. deficiens? I am seriously considering putting several labels in each pot, each with a different name. Hopefully one will be correct!
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Gerdk on October 28, 2020, 09:29:40 AM
Ha!  ;D ;D
What should I put on the label - N. deficiens? I am seriously considering putting several labels in each pot, each with a different name. Hopefully one will be correct!

Anne, you are not alone. In my collection there are labels with serotinus ?, miniatus, obsoletus and deficiens in the end. All for the same species.
Without any doubt the split of Narcissus serotinus into two distinct species was overdue. The problems which arose then concerning the nomenclature are a mess. It reminds of the Babylonion language confusion.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on October 30, 2020, 01:19:49 PM
This was non-flowering for two years and now pushes up a bloom before leaves.

Narcissus viridiflorus
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: annew on October 30, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
It somehow seems very apt for Halloween.  :P
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on October 30, 2020, 07:59:26 PM
It is a bit strange when you consider the look of most Narcissus.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Ian Y on October 31, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
We also have the first of this seasons Narcissus flowers opening in the sand beds with many more buds visible.

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Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Yann on October 31, 2020, 04:50:56 PM
Surprise this morning, Narcissus serotinis sown 09/16, first flowers, whole plant is 7cm

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Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: annew on November 02, 2020, 08:20:32 PM
We also have the first of this seasons Narcissus flowers opening in the sand beds with many more buds visible.
Your Craigton Chorister will win the race to be first of the hoops in flower here - it is showing buds already.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: annew on November 02, 2020, 08:21:05 PM
Surprise this morning, Narcissus serotinis sown 09/16, first flowers, whole plant is 7cm

Well done Yann, a rapid result!
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: annew on November 02, 2020, 08:22:02 PM
Can anybody help with a source of bulbs or seeds of Narcissus triandrus subsp pulchellus?
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Yann on November 03, 2020, 07:22:45 AM
Well done Yann, a rapid result!

Usually serotinus/obsoletus are fast grower.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Ian Y on November 03, 2020, 09:29:43 AM
Your Craigton Chorister will win the race to be first of the hoops in flower here - it is showing buds already.

The buds of Craigton Chorister are also showing here and depending on our weather in the coming weeks it could soon be singing....
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Yann on November 04, 2020, 08:25:59 PM
Narcissus obsoletus
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Narcissus viridiflorus
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I got a problem with the upload,  gonna wait https and http content mix is resolve to update this post :)
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: ashley on November 04, 2020, 10:13:39 PM
Lovely plant and photo Yann.
Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Ian Y on November 05, 2020, 12:59:54 PM
The first of the yellow Narccissus romieuxii types is now in flower.

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Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Ken Devine on November 06, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Bulbocodium flowering outside in a trough on 1st Novermber. Seed collected from garden growing plants and scattered on the trough 2-3 years ago. Parents usually flower around March. Apologies for the poor quality of the photo.

Title: Re: Narcissus October 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on November 06, 2020, 06:05:49 PM
Well Ken, that IS early! Delightful surprise, for  sure.
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