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Title: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 14, 2020, 02:49:35 PM
Our first narcissus for the season is this tiny Narcissus obsoletus (? received as Narcissus serotinus)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 14, 2020, 08:21:58 PM
Fermi seems to be the only one of that noticed it is now March! Well done getting that to flower - I struggle with the autumn flowerers.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 14, 2020, 08:29:19 PM
Having been sniffled off for taking the daff babies down to Rosemoor, I spent today taking portraits of them so at least I can show you. They are all miniatures.
2655-1-10 flowers 3cm across
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2817-1 top Pageboy bottom - 2 siblings
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2968-2-15
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2990-B 8cm high, flowers 2.5 cm across
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2991-2 flowers 2.5cm across
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Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 14, 2020, 08:40:45 PM
3216-1-16  nice flat-faced reverse bicolour
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4168-2-19 - a beautiful creamy flower with a golden heart
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4216-1-20 one of a number of seedlings aiming to get a flared rim into a x litigiosus type
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4252 - very exciting - the first of our hybrids with N. albimarginatus as pollen parent - deliciously scented
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4687-2-20 a little thing from asturiensis x scaberulus
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Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 14, 2020, 08:45:06 PM
Andy Blanchard - this is the most flowering bulbs I've had in a pot!
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Citron Baby - tiny flowers
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Fresh Breeze - clear lemon
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Mica - matures to pure white
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Leslie Cox's little hybrid named for her daughter. I wonder if the real Susan is as naughty as this one - this flower has 8 perianth segments!
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Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 14, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
You've  made  my  day with these, Anne! Thanks for  sharing  such lovely  photos.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Rafa on March 16, 2020, 11:05:36 PM
Our first narcissus for the season is this tiny Narcissus obsoletus (? received as Narcissus serotinus)
cheers
fermi

Hello Fermi, your plant is Narcissus deficiens (orange segmented corona, green straight perianth tube)
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 18, 2020, 01:50:50 PM
I feel very fortunate that although, like everyone else, we are under siege, I can go out in the garden and wander (lonely as a cloud....) among the daffs. Even in the rain, the birds are singing. Happy to share with you all.
First photo from the front - Little Beauty, swallow, Rapture, Peeping Jenny
Second photo - Trena in foreground.
3 - February  Gold
4 - Narcissus lobularis
5 - N. varduliensis
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Carolyn on March 18, 2020, 03:22:41 PM
Anne,
What a lovely garden! We don't usually see more than your individual plants. Nice and cheery - we need that.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: YT on March 18, 2020, 04:03:06 PM
Faburous seedlings, Anne! :D Your beautiful garden looks comfortable :)
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: YT on March 18, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
Narcissus seedlings with their first flowers.
And harvest season is coming!
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 18, 2020, 05:03:33 PM
First flowers are SO exciting!
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 20, 2020, 03:24:20 PM
Hello Fermi, your plant is Narcissus deficiens (orange segmented corona, green straight perianth tube)
Thanks, Rafa.
This one came to us as Narcissus miniatus from Harold Koopavitz in the US via Lawrence Trevanion in Canberra.
First pic taken on 16th and the others on 19th of this month
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Gerdk on March 20, 2020, 04:24:16 PM
Great pictures Fermi!

I add a pic of Narcissus triandrus var. concolor here (not my own plant)

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Yann on March 21, 2020, 04:57:59 PM
trumpets are funny  ;)

In the garden daffodils are well blooming this year. I grow many old cultivars from Croft 16 and a few ones are already shaking in the wind.

Narcissus 'Niphetos'
Narcissus 'Multamanta'
Narcissus 'Brilliancy'
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Tim Harberd on March 21, 2020, 06:02:40 PM
Hi Folks,
    I've never seen one of these on a Daff before.... Is it just a curiosity or should I go into panic mode? The growth is on a 4W-Y(Double) called 'Greek Surprise'.

Tim DH
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 21, 2020, 07:54:26 PM
Well it's certainly a surprise!
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 21, 2020, 07:55:29 PM
trumpets are funny  ;)

In the garden daffodils are well blooming this year. I grow many old cultivars from Croft 16 and a few ones are already shaking in the wind.

Narcissus 'Niphetos'
Narcissus 'Multamanta'
Narcissus 'Brilliancy'
I love these historical daffs, I have been buying a few each year from Croft 16 as well.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 21, 2020, 08:00:17 PM
Most of the later-flowering daffs have been having their portraits taken today. Some are pretty and some just BIO (botanical interest only).
2827 is Narcissus rupicola Rapiata x Candlepower
3136 is Creme Fraiche Group - Narcissus watieri x rupicola Spring Charm
3172 is Panna Cotta Group - Narcissus rupicola Spring Charm x watieri
3136 are seedlings from N. rupicola 'Spring Charm' Very small with very blue leaves.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 21, 2020, 08:02:40 PM
More:
3059 is Narcissus triandrus x assoanus
3977 is Narcissus triandrus pallidulus  x fernandesii
4704 is my first double seedling, judging by the size of the bud. - Crème Fraiche x 'Van Sion'. I've been waiting 3 weeks for iy to open.....zzzzzz
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 21, 2020, 08:04:11 PM
Last few:
Giselle
N. obesus Lee Martin
Little Jen - Narcissus triandrus x rupicola Spring Charm
Vitrina - Narcissus bulbocodium nivalis x triandrus
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 22, 2020, 03:34:12 PM
I have just spent 2 hours pollinating. No buzz left. The flowers that didn't get to the Rosemoor daffodil competition were in perfect condition, so I've put them in vases and photographed them quick before they collapse!
Happy Mother's Day to all mum's separated from our families.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: olegKon on March 24, 2020, 11:08:38 AM
Amazing narcissi as usual, Anne. I wish they were all hardy here.
The first to flower for me is Narcissus asturiensis

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Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 24, 2020, 12:20:59 PM
Lovely form!
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 25, 2020, 11:20:34 AM
Another autumn flowering Narcissus - this was raised from seed from the AGS Seedex 2011 collected in Coripe, Sevilla, Spain as Narcissus miniatus but these were then lumped into N. obsoletus as I mentioned in 2017. Rafa later told me that it should be considered to be Narcissus deficiens
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 25, 2020, 12:24:24 PM
Beautiful, Fermi!
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: kris on March 25, 2020, 04:47:44 PM
Happy to see gardens coming to life. Soothing to the mind.
Ann your garden looks amazing
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 27, 2020, 11:29:23 AM
Yesterday's portraits, and comments on my species names please.
Narcissus bulbocodium tenuifolius
Narcissus cerrolazae pale form bottom right, normal form two flowers top left. Difficult to show the colour difference!
Narcissus cerrolazae
Narcissus jonquilla minor.
Narcissus jonquilla henriquesii
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 27, 2020, 11:30:37 AM
I received this by seed from a friend in New Zealand as N. cuatrecaasii, but it seems more likely to be N. rupicola. However it is a paler shade of yellow and seeds true. Smells like N. rupicola
New Zealand plant left, standard Rupicola right - again very difficult to show the difference in colour. The NZ plant is a more sulphur yellow.
Lastly, Little Jen is now fully out!
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 27, 2020, 08:04:30 PM
More portraits! Getting a lot done since we are stuck at home. A small bright side.
2972 comes from N. triandrus x Second Fiddle. Both parents were white, so the variation in the seedlings was a surprise. This is one of only two seedlings surviving.
3955 N. triandrus var triandrus x rupicola 'Spring Charm' these are the same parents that produced 'Little Jen', but this time the two sisters have reverse bicolour flowers.

Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 27, 2020, 08:05:31 PM
The rest of the photos are to show what a huge variation in size, as well as colour there is in the various N. triandrus forms. Please jump in if you think I have the names incorrect.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 28, 2020, 11:14:25 AM
Anne, tremendous to see all your spring daffs!
Here's the latest of our autumn flowerers, Narcissus 07-02T (N.tazetta ssp lacticolor x N.elegans) which we got from Lawrence Trevanion a few years ago
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: annew on March 28, 2020, 01:29:17 PM
Stunning contrast in colour.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Gerdk on March 31, 2020, 09:55:13 AM
These are two tazettas, the first one is a collection of Theo Sanders from Figueras/Spain. It is hardy here in the north and also free flowering.
The second one is Narcissus canaliculatus - from the trade and it builts only flowers after a warm and dry resting periode is given

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Karaba on March 31, 2020, 11:08:06 AM
Wow, you've got flowers from canaliculatus ?! I've got this commercial clone since maybe 20 years and never saw any flower It just multiply somewhere, I remember it only when I see its leaves and forget it just a minute later.
I've also Narcissus tazetta from southern France, and it is flowering every year and set seeds, a quite tall form with stalk of ~50 cm.
Title: Re: Narcissus March 2020
Post by: Gerdk on March 31, 2020, 05:17:44 PM
Yvain,
The trick to obtain flowering N. canaliculatus is 3 months in a box with artificial heat (ca. 25° C) during summer - nothing more   ;)

Gerd
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