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Title: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 09, 2020, 02:24:25 PM
Hepatica nobilis, one month earlier as previous year!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on January 09, 2020, 04:04:50 PM
That is so early! Here they flower at the end of April usually.
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Post by: SueNH on January 18, 2020, 06:57:02 PM
Mid May before I see hepatica blooms here. I'm so jealous of the weather in most of Europe.

Right now I'm kind of in mourning because my dog ate the seeds I had potted up in an unheated room at the back of the house.  Didn't think she would eat pots of dirt. I was wrong.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: brianw on January 18, 2020, 07:03:48 PM
Did you have any organic fertiliser, such as bone meal, in it? The smell would be enough for a dog to eat it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on February 03, 2020, 06:05:52 AM
Try chilli powder or pepper powder!

Herman Mylemans: Love your nobilis.

My first foray into hepatica - hepatica abutiloa!

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Don't think it will survive in my hot and dry weather, but just want to try and complete some sort of journey!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 09, 2020, 06:11:45 PM
Some flowers started to open in the cold greenhouse. These are all seedlings and first time bloomers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 09, 2020, 06:19:21 PM
The filled nobilis are among the earliest to start. These are all unnamed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 09, 2020, 07:32:09 PM
They are all so beautiful Carstens! A joy to watch the various forms/colors.

I brought indoors (cold garage) few pots from my petite collection and H. japonica plants are always the first trying to bloom. Maybe few flowers shortly :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on February 09, 2020, 10:27:45 PM
SRGC-20200209_140629 is superb! And the filled nobilis  :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on February 10, 2020, 07:46:56 AM
Wonderful, Carsten.
14629 has very nice flowershape and I also like the first one with dark center, but the filled nobilis are my favourite ones.
It is interesting that they are earlier than normal nobilis.

Here this winter may be a challenge to H.japonicas. On the other hand it is quite mild and ground is not frozen deep and no snow, but when the weather is so warm (above freezing) they have flower buds well developed already now and there are bound to come some cold weather still. I keep my fingers crossed. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 10, 2020, 08:23:21 AM
SRGC-20200209_140629 is superb! And the filled nobilis  :o
Thank you Anne and Leena!
Sorry for the horrible 'name'. It is a seedling of Hepatica pubescens 'Hohobeni'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 10, 2020, 09:03:47 AM
Carsten, beautiful Hepatica's! Here a lot of Hepatica's in the garden are waiting for a bit sunshine. The storm Chiara has passed, but luckily no damage.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 10, 2020, 07:10:19 PM
Is anyone of the forumists visiting either the Ueno-Show in Tokyo Feb. 22th/23th or the Sanjo-Show near Niigata Feb 29th/March 1st?
I´am going to visit each show on both days and would be happy to meet other Hepatica enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on February 11, 2020, 12:59:45 AM
Carstens, I will be going to the shows at both Ueno and Sanjo.  I am supposed to meet a friend from Germany.  Is it possible that you might be a member of this group?
Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 11, 2020, 05:35:10 AM
Dear Carstens and Koko,
please, please, please take your cameras/phones with plenty of charge so you can take loads of pics to post here!!!
cheers
fermi
(I can't grow hepatica here so rely on this forum to get my "fix"  ;D )
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 11, 2020, 07:36:20 AM
Dear Koko,
yes, we are a group of four and I´am looking forward to meet you there.
Hope there will be some good pics to post here, fermi  ;)
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Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on February 11, 2020, 12:55:12 PM
Great!  Looking forward to meet you at the show.
Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 11, 2020, 02:37:08 PM
The first transsilvanica flower of this year in our garden: Hepatica transsilvanica 'Winterfreude'
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Post by: Ingrida on February 11, 2020, 05:48:47 PM
We had no normal winter this year in Lithuania, so I also have first flower of hepatica X MEDIA AVATAR in my garden  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 13, 2020, 01:02:47 AM
The first transsilvanica flower of this year in our garden: Hepatica transsilvanica 'Winterfreude'

Wow - it stands up to its name Herman, a true winter joy!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 13, 2020, 01:06:01 AM
We had no normal winter this year in Lithuania, so I also have first flower of hepatica X MEDIA AVATAR in my garden  :)

Avatar has a lovely flower Ingrida.

One of my first H. japonica to flower (in the garage); they receive triple attention than the Hepatica flowering outdoors in late spring :)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on February 13, 2020, 07:53:24 AM
Gabriela - nice way to start a morning! Would love to know what camera and lens you took the stunner!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 13, 2020, 11:24:32 AM
Lovely photos  from everyone  - I think one  of the  best  things  about  pictures  of  hepatica flowers  is that we  can see  so much detail in them, at  greatly  enlarged  size  from the  actual size  of these  little  gems!!

Thanks  for  trying  again to load  your  photo, Ingrida  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 14, 2020, 12:28:38 AM
Gabriela - nice way to start a morning! Would love to know what camera and lens you took the stunner!

Thank you WSGR, you may be disappointed to know that I am still using an old Fuji camera, no special lens. I cannot even read out the model nr. anymore!  I have problems letting go of it and desperate that they don't produce anything similar anymore.
Anyone can take good pictures with a normal camera, just needs patience and perseverance.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 14, 2020, 12:37:54 AM
Lovely photos  from everyone  - I think one  of the  best  things  about  pictures  of  hepatica flowers  is that we  can see  so much detail in them, at  greatly  enlarged  size  from the  actual size  of these  little  gems!!

True Maggi, same goes for the Galanthus ;)  It is also that they flower so early when not much is in flower (nothing else here at least) so we are desperate and have more time for 'detailing'.
As for me, I greatly enjoy their foliage as well and when the new leaves start growing I probably take an equal nr. of pictures.

One more :)) to compensate for tonight's temperature: -21C!
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on February 14, 2020, 06:16:59 AM
Thank you WSGR, you may be disappointed to know that I am still using an old Fuji camera, no special lens. I cannot even read out the model nr. anymore!  I have problems letting go of it and desperate that they don't produce anything similar anymore.
Anyone can take good pictures with a normal camera, just needs patience and perseverance.

On the contrary, I love old cameras: I have a Samsung PL20 but can't really get this close. The blue one is simply a stunner! The blue is so saturated and rich. My little camera was refurbished when I bought it for £89 and now it can't close properly. Very frustrating, but it lets in a lot of light. I bought a new mirrorless Samsung and I am very disappointed as the close ups are rubbish and on the top of that it is heavy.

Lovely plants and lovely photos, Gabriela!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2020, 10:37:13 AM
Beautiful pictures Gabriela! You said that your plants are standing in the garage, then you probably also use artificial light.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2020, 05:09:46 PM
Today some sun! So the Hepatica's react with flowers.
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra'
Hepatica henryi
Hepatica pyrenaica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 15, 2020, 12:35:59 AM
On the contrary, I love old cameras: I have a Samsung PL20 but can't really get this close. The blue one is simply a stunner! The blue is so saturated and rich. My little camera was refurbished when I bought it for £89 and now it can't close properly. Very frustrating, but it lets in a lot of light. I bought a new mirrorless Samsung and I am very disappointed as the close ups are rubbish and on the top of that it is heavy.

Lovely plants and lovely photos, Gabriela!

Your Helleborus pictures are very nice WSGR, so your camera is not that bad. In any case, one good candidate regarding features like: good close-ups & landscape/and not heavy, would be the Olympus camera the Bulb Despot showed at some point. Don't remember the exact model but there was a featured Bulb log about it.
Maggi will come to the rescue I'm sure :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 15, 2020, 12:47:50 AM
Today some sun! So the Hepatica's react with flowers.
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra'
Hepatica henryi
Hepatica pyrenaica

Always exciting to see your VERY large established clumps Herman!

Yes, I use small LED panels. Last year I bought one in a hurry and then 2 more. I wasn't too convinced they'll be any good but all the Hepaticas grew well until I was able to take them outside.
Right now I bring them in the house almost every day and put them back in the garage in the evening. I don't have many pots so it's not much trouble. This may simulate outdoor conditions temp. wise, I can take nice pictures :) and hopefully there will be some pollination happening (with my help).

One more picture for one more super-cold night. This one grows very, very slow comparing with the others.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on February 15, 2020, 06:47:42 AM
Gabriela Most kind of you. I can't upload my photos as it gave me the message of file too big. Hope something send me a photoshop snippet so that I don't have to make one myself. I used to be able to, but don't quite know how to make photos within 200?? Ah, HELP!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 15, 2020, 08:21:52 AM
WSGR, if you choose for your attachment 'END Of POST expendable thumbnail' resizing should be go automatically.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 15, 2020, 08:29:13 AM
Always exciting to see your VERY large established clumps Herman!

Yes, I use small LED panels. Last year I bought one in a hurry and then 2 more. I wasn't too convinced they'll be any good but all the Hepaticas grew well until I was able to take them outside.
Right now I bring them in the house almost every day and put them back in the garage in the evening. I don't have many pots so it's not much trouble. This may simulate outdoor conditions temp. wise, I can take nice pictures :) and hopefully there will be some pollination happening (with my help).

One more picture for one more super-cold night. This one grows very, very slow comparing with the others.
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Gabriela, your LED panels seems to work quiet wel. Your Hepatica's look beautiful.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on February 15, 2020, 08:50:57 AM
One more picture for one more super-cold night. This one grows very, very slow comparing with the others.

What a really nice colour! Really special. :)
What temperature is your garage?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 15, 2020, 11:45:44 AM
What a wonderful show folks !  Thanks for letting us enjoy all your beauties.

I'll try to add some early flowers from my limited collection.

Some unnamed Hep. japonica first.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 15, 2020, 11:52:36 AM
Hepatica crenatiloba in the garden twice

Hepatica japonica 'Hakurin' twice

Hepatica japonica 'Blue Sandan'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 12:50:24 PM
It seems that the Hepatica season starts driving. Nice to see all your plants!
Two of my pots of japonica seedlings and separate flowers of them.

 edit  by  maggi to rotate  two pix.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 12:54:48 PM
Some more japonica seedlings ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 12:59:08 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. japonica 'Kouten'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 01:03:19 PM
The color range of Hepatica nobilis seedlings ...
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Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 01:06:16 PM
... and some more.
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Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 15, 2020, 01:09:35 PM
Luc and Carstens very nice Hepatica's! The season has indeed started, but this night a new storm is coming.

Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra plena'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 01:13:52 PM
And a few doubles of Hepatica nobilis.
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Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 01:21:24 PM
And a final pic of a white japonica, a bit lost between the Eranthis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 15, 2020, 01:22:11 PM
And a few doubles of Hepatica nobilis.
Carsten, Maria theresia is the most impressive!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gail on February 15, 2020, 03:14:45 PM
Carsten, Maria theresia is the most impressive!
Agree, that is lovely - is the blue of the photo true to life?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2020, 03:53:37 PM
Agree, that is lovely - is the blue of the photo true to life?
It is a little darker and a bit more into the red - very difficult to capture.
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 15, 2020, 04:08:38 PM
Amazing diversity in all these seedlings Carsten !  They're truly stunning little plants !

The nobilis doubles are just as beautiful and I think I can agree with Herman and Gail, Maria Theresia also gets my vote !

Just a couple of pots with young Hep. japonica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Mike Ireland on February 15, 2020, 05:05:32 PM
So many great looking flowers.
Two japonica & two nobilis from my garden today.  Hope they are still with me when Storm Dennis finishes.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 15, 2020, 05:44:21 PM
Stunning  photos  of  these  photogenic little  flowers.  Very  lovely!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 15, 2020, 07:54:21 PM
A true Hepatica winterfest! I love them all!

Leena: the temp. in the garage this morning was 3C (after a -17C night). But it is not that cold often and usually the back side where I keep the plants remains pretty constant at 5-6+C (more towards the spring). This is because the garage is partly placed underground and it behaves more like a cellar. A quite lucky situation that could be exploited even more.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on February 16, 2020, 07:06:18 AM
Feasts for the eyes, guys!

The double blue one is amazing! Shame where I live is not ideal for their cultivation; but I bought 3 and have had a go.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 16, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
A new one for me :

Hepatica japonica 'Sanome' - even darker, more going towards purple than on the pictures.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 17, 2020, 08:37:56 AM
Carsten, Maria theresia is the most impressive!
I'll second that!  :-*
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 18, 2020, 03:22:50 PM
A search picture with 'MariaTheresia' and other nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 18, 2020, 05:24:07 PM
A search picture with 'MariaTheresia' and other nobilis.
Carstens, is Maria Theresia the one left under. They are all impressive!  Are they all pure nobilis blood?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on February 18, 2020, 06:50:24 PM
So beautiful flowers in all pictures! :) Double H.nobilis are so special.
Here H.pubescens and H.japonicas are in big bud outside (showing colour), and I hope it will not be too cold for them in March if they open their flowers before that. H.americana grown from seeds from Gabriela has also big buds already and it seems they are earlier than our native H.nobilis, or is it just this year, I don't know.
This picture is from today.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 19, 2020, 12:33:35 AM
Leena - I really hope the weather will keep the pattern in Finland. Everything it is so early this year!
Hepatica americana looks very well and cute, as usual :) Here they would also flower as soon as possible in late March/early April when the temp. start rising; it depends how much direct sun they get.
There can be a difference of more than a week between plants with direct sun exposure and others on more shaded locations.
Hepatica acutiloba usually flowers about one week earlier than americana.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 19, 2020, 09:39:27 AM
Herman, 'Maria Theresia' is the dark one at the top. 'Müssel' is left next to it and the white is just called 'Alba Plena' (from Edrom Nurseries 2016). I got the pink one as 'Yugo' but I can´t tell it apart from my 'Rubra Plena'. The others don't bear a name only numbers.
Leena, fingers crossed that there is no winter again after your sweeties started to grow ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 19, 2020, 09:42:10 AM
Herman, 'Maria Theresia' is the dark one at the top. 'Müssel' is left next to it and the white is just called 'Alba Plena' (from Edrom Nurseries 2016). I got the pink one as 'Yugo' but I can´t tell it apart from my 'Rubra Plena'. The others don't bear a name only numbers. And, they´re all pure nobilis.
Leena, fingers crossed that there is no winter again after your sweeties started to grow ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 19, 2020, 10:57:22 AM
Herman, 'Maria Theresia' is the dark one at the top. 'Müssel' is left next to it and the white is just called 'Alba Plena' (from Edrom Nurseries 2016). I got the pink one as 'Yugo' but I can´t tell it apart from my 'Rubra Plena'. The others don't bear a name only numbers.
Leena, fingers crossed that there is no winter again after your sweeties started to grow ;)
Carstens, I doubted between the one on the top and the left one under. I choose the left one because of the form looks more the same as on your first picture. Probably the first one was more open. Anyway it is a beautiful dark Hepatica, hopefully it  grows well.
Is the inside of 'Yugo' coming more open? In mine 'Rubra Plena' (from Gerben Tjeerdsma ) it is more flat. Maybe on that point, there is some difference.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on February 19, 2020, 11:52:37 AM
Dear Herman, this is the small bowl today. Hepaticas change their shape strongly while aging. So it is not too easy, to judge.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 19, 2020, 12:05:29 PM
Dear Herman, this is the small bowl today. Hepaticas change their shape strongly while aging. So it is not too easy, to judge.
On this point, 'Yugo' looks indeed the same as 'Rubra Plena'. The flowering time is the same. Then maybe the foliage will be different.
It is a good idea to put some flowers in a small bowl. You can see the evolution quiet well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 19, 2020, 04:13:34 PM
Open Day at Glenn Shapiro's  National Collection of  Hepatica on 3rd  March 2020
 
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 Hazelwood  Farm, Hollins  Lane , Silverdale,  Carforth LA 5  0UB
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on February 20, 2020, 09:28:01 AM
Here they would also flower as soon as possible in late March/early April when the temp. start rising; it depends how much direct sun they get.
There can be a difference of more than a week between plants with direct sun exposure and others on more shaded locations.
Hepatica acutiloba usually flowers about one week earlier than americana.

Thank you Gabriela. I was thinking that H.americana might be earlier, because I have also our own H.nobilis close to those seedlings, and H.nobilis buds are not so advanced yet. It may still be a matter of location, and H.americana was planted only last autumn, so I will see in a few years how they grow and flower.

Carsten, very informative to see pictures of the same flowers when they have opened fully! All so beautiful. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on February 20, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
Dear Herman, this is the small bowl today. Hepaticas change their shape strongly while aging. So it is not too easy, to judge.
I am amazed by the number of beautiful double Hepatica.
Right now I am in India with +32C temperature.
I have to wait till May to see them flowering in my garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 21, 2020, 05:28:11 PM
I am grateful to YT for this  photo from Chetsu Plants (their  photo the  plant  is  a  customers) of this,  the grand prize holder at the 25th National Hepatica Show, the Ueno Green Club in Tokyo, Japan

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 Some  more  photos  from Chetsu of plants at  the  event .....

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 21, 2020, 05:36:51 PM
Other  shots  of the  Hepatica  Show  in  Japan .....

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 21, 2020, 05:52:26 PM
Very impressive! Maggi and YT, thanks for showing the pictures.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: angie on February 21, 2020, 07:05:41 PM
Oh look at those sales tables  :'( :'( :'(

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on February 21, 2020, 08:45:54 PM
I think I'm much safer in the UK. Those sales tables would be too tempting.
I had a couple of hours free this afternoon so spent it photographing my hepaticas. This is the debitage!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 21, 2020, 09:12:22 PM
I think I'm much safer in the UK. Those sales tables would be too tempting.
I had a couple of hours free this afternoon so spent it photographing my hepaticas. This is the debitage!
You could  be  right, Anne  - the  temptation of the  Japanese  sales tables  might  be  too much for  a  few  of  us!  Love your  display - just  don't  ask me to pick a  favourite! Too difficult!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Tristan_He on February 22, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
So beautiful... I love Hepaticas but unfortunately they don't like me much.  :( I think our soil is not calcareous enough for them to really thrive.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: YT on February 22, 2020, 02:00:50 PM
Thank you for posting the pictures of the hepatica show, Maggi :) You are always a very good host (or hostess? thanks for political correctness... ) to this forum ;)
Please allow me to add some more pictures from The 25th National Hepatica Show (2020), Tokyo, JAPAN 1/3

001: a newly seedling, unnamed, class Hyōjun-ka (single)
002: ‘Toyama Shigure’, Bronze, class Hyōjun-ka (single)
003: a newly seedling, unnamed, class Henka-ka (unclassified)
004: ‘Kōgō’, The Minister of Agriculture, Forestry, and Fisheries Award, class Sen'e-zaki (full double)
005: a newly seedling, unnamed, class Henka-ka (unclassified)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: YT on February 22, 2020, 02:03:58 PM
Other pics of the show :) 2/3

006: ‘Kōsui’, a newly seedling, Gold, class Henka-ka (unclassified)
007: unnamed, class Sen'e-zaki (full double)
008: ‘Murasaki Shikibu’, class Karako-zaki (anemone form)
009: unnamed, class Nichirin-zaki (small petal-like sterile stamens)
010: ‘Hisuizakura’, Gold, class Nidan-zaki (collerette like stamens)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: YT on February 22, 2020, 02:05:44 PM
Other pics of the show 3/3 (continued from previous page)

011: ‘Taiyōchō’, Bronze, class Karako-zaki (anemone form)
012: ‘Ainoko’, Gold, class Hyōjun-ka (single)
013: ‘Benikōrai’,  The National Hepatica Show Memorial Award, class Nidan-zaki (collerette)
014: ‘Sumidaotome’, Gold, class Otome-zaki (stamenless)
015: ‘Getsurin’, class Hyōjun-ka (single)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: YT on February 22, 2020, 02:18:11 PM
I think I'm much safer in the UK. Those sales tables would be too tempting.
I had a couple of hours free this afternoon so spent it photographing my hepaticas. This is the debitage!
Soooo colourful floating flowers, Anne :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 22, 2020, 03:20:32 PM
I think I'm much safer in the UK. Those sales tables would be too tempting.
I had a couple of hours free this afternoon so spent it photographing my hepaticas. This is the debitage!

Beautiful collection Anne!
There must be some affordable plants on those sale tables; impressive in any case. Speaking of their passion for Hepatica!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on February 22, 2020, 03:23:40 PM
Thanks Maggi and Tatsuo for posting all the pictures  :)
It seems the sky is the limit when it comes to raising new forms of H. japonica!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on February 22, 2020, 07:13:25 PM
OOOh.. Ainoko! OOOh...Sumidaotome... :o :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 23, 2020, 03:40:47 AM
Thanks for posting these pics! Heart-breakingly beautiful  :o
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Starking007 on February 25, 2020, 11:19:26 AM
Hello from Northern Bavaria, Germany.
First time here, is there an introduction page?
I have almost only H. nobilis erratic blocks, including filled, striped and dotted. I don't cultivate, I just let them grow .....
Greetings Arthur
(that's my real first name!)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 25, 2020, 12:22:16 PM
Hello from Northern Bavaria, Germany.
First time here, is there an introduction page?
I have almost only H. nobilis erratic blocks, including filled, striped and dotted. I don't cultivate, I just let them grow .....
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Welcome Arthur. I hope you can post some pictures when your Hepatica's are flowering.
Greetings
Herman
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 25, 2020, 01:05:17 PM
Hello Arthur, welcome to the  forum.  There  is  a page  for  members to introduce themselves  ....
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11191.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11191.0)
 You can read  about  posting to the  forum here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?action=help (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?action=help) which may help you  with posting  images. The  forum has an automatic resizing  system.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2020, 11:18:47 AM
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"The  forum has an automatic resizing  system."
Mmmm.....

2020, Elison Spence, differs every day.

Seems  the  forum system does  not  link to Google User Accounts !  Try  a direct  upload  of the  images.
When I try to access using  the  link all I get  is  an invitation to log  in to Google account.


 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on February 27, 2020, 06:52:47 PM
This forum is a very dangerous place - reading this and feasting my eyes on the stunners posted by Maggi and the other guys can seriously damage my bank balance. Thank heavens they don't grow well here! What beautiful flowers, the first blue one posted by Maggi was like 3D and the pink one was shockingly impressive! Annew has some beauties as well. More photos please!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on February 28, 2020, 06:09:50 PM
Nice to see all the lovely hepaticas
Amazing japonicas  ::)
Extra nice to see plants that may thrive in my garden ( hepática nobils nobilís)
Anne in your great bowl which are nobilis so that I know what to look out for
Rings around them would be great  8)
The colour range and the flower shape is developing fast in nobilis now even if they are behind japonica in variation.
Several people active here makes great contribution to this work and it is great to see the result
Great to see  the marvellous double ones Carsten. Are they result of your breeding as they are numbers?
A sunny day and I will be able to share my two new ones. Only have them semi open :-*
I also hope on flowers on the Transylvaniacas I bought and already have.
Great hopes
Joakim
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Starking007 on February 29, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
I'm curious to see if anyone knows these seedlings.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 01, 2020, 03:45:07 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Winterfreude' is still going on!
Hepatica americana 'Rosea' is waiting for some stable dry and sunny wheater to shine.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 08:53:01 PM
Back from the Japan trip I can add some pics of the Ueno show.
Starting with plants for sale ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 08:55:17 PM
and some more
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 08:57:08 PM
and another 4 out of hundreds of beautiful plants
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 09:05:35 PM
Some impressions of the show plants ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 03, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
Are they not  wonderful!??!! And the  pots!!

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 09:08:25 PM
... and in detail.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 03, 2020, 09:28:04 PM
Oh my  word, the  gold  and the  (almost)  black !!! I thought  the  yellow  was  good  until I saw the  gold!   Fantastic.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 09:32:20 PM
We were able to visit the Yamakusa nursery near Saitama and were shown around kindly.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 09:35:31 PM
Only a few flowers out of tons of superb plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 03, 2020, 09:37:59 PM
Carstens, thank you for sharing this beautiful pictures. To see such a show in real must be a great experience!
It seems that there is no end at the diversity of Hepatica Japonica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 09:46:10 PM
Are they not  wonderful!??!! And the  pots!! Oh my  word, the  gold  and the  (almost)  black !!! I thought  the  yellow  was  good  until I saw the  gold!   Fantastic.

Yes Maggi, never seen such golden tones before. And the almost black one witch was one of a seed strain called Kuroi houseki, black jewel was a clear buy  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2020, 09:53:03 PM
Carstens, thank you for sharing this beautiful pictures. To see such a show in real must be a great experience!
It seems that there is no end at the diversity of Hepatica Japonica.
Herman, it´s always surprising to see new colours and forms every other year. Like these 3 examples ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on March 03, 2020, 11:24:06 PM
Carsten,

Thank you for sharing these beautiful photos!! 

Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 03, 2020, 11:59:36 PM
Yes, as well many thanks Carstens!
It is amazing to see what they are achieving with H. japonica. And, as Maggi said, also the pots are extremely attractive!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Rick R. on March 04, 2020, 01:58:42 AM
This is so incredible!

  And just when you think you've seen it all, then there is that last on with the lobed petals!

Thanks, Carstens !!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gerdk on March 04, 2020, 08:32:01 AM
Overwhelming Show! Impossible colours seems to be possible.

 Does someone know where this intense yellow and red comes from?
 Are there some wild variants with these colours?

Gerd
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 04, 2020, 11:14:35 AM
Thanks, Carstens! As everyone has said your pics have been wonderful,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 04, 2020, 11:15:03 AM
I am speechless! Yellows, and blacks and pure reds, and all those glowing blue shades, which are like jewels. And different forms in flowers. Your trip must have been an experience of a lifetime.
Thank you for showing them. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 12:36:10 PM
For Maggi and Gabriela...
I was able to buy the two pots ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 04, 2020, 12:37:00 PM
For Maggi and Gabriela...
I was able to buy the two pots ;)

 Ohh, you  are  lucky!
 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 12:52:31 PM
Last week we did a bit of sightseeing around Kyoto before traveling to Tsumbanesanjo by Shinkansen for the Sanjo-Show.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 12:55:06 PM
At two floors there were wunderful plants to spot and to buy.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 12:57:46 PM
and some more impressions ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 12:59:55 PM
... and so on  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 04, 2020, 01:01:06 PM
Last week we did a bit of sightseeing around Kyoto before traveling to Tsumbanesanjo by Sinkansen for the Sanjo-Show.
Shocked to  see the  blossom trees  already  in flower!  How  lovely!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 01:02:39 PM
The top rated plant with a name like tomato red.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 04, 2020, 01:03:54 PM
Thank you Maggi for rotating the pics, you are the best  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 04, 2020, 01:57:09 PM
Happy  to help, Carstens - thank you  for sharing your  photos!

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Haemanthus on March 04, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Wow, wow and WOW!!!!  :o :o :o

So sad I havent been there with you  :'(

Bernie
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on March 04, 2020, 08:20:02 PM
Carsten, many thanks for this insight into what can be achieved. The quality of your photos is stunning, but am breathless with wonder at the different forms and superb colours!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 04, 2020, 09:21:30 PM
For Maggi and Gabriela...
I was able to buy the two pots ;)

They are priceless Carsten! I wonder how will you select the plants for them :) you have so many beautiful Hepaticas!
Fantastic pictures, my top rated one would have been the one with lobed tepals, but I'm sure they have very strict criteria.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 05, 2020, 06:08:08 AM
Back at home I had a beautiful welcome of a first bloomer.
Seed received from Gunhild Poulsen in 2016 as pyrenaica alba x nobilis 'Bolette' F2. Even with all the great japonicas in mind this was a very moving moment to spot the two flowers between the seedlings in the pot.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 05, 2020, 07:21:51 AM
That is like icecream or sorbet! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 05, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
Back at home I had a beautiful welcome of a first bloomer.
Seed received from Gunhild Poulsen in 2016 as pyrenaica alba x nobilis 'Bolette' F2. Even with all the great japonicas in mind this was a very moving moment to spot the two flowers between the seedlings in the pot.
Carsten, you are lucky to find such beautiful treasures at home!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on March 05, 2020, 08:05:56 AM
Carsten: The 3rd one is GORGEOUS!  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 05, 2020, 08:34:34 AM
WSGR, in all four pics it is the same plant (and other seedlings in the same pot). The second picture shows both flowers which are a bit different.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on March 05, 2020, 09:02:36 AM
Back at home I had a beautiful welcome of a first bloomer.
Seed received from Gunhild Poulsen in 2016 as pyrenaica alba x nobilis 'Bolette' F2. Even with all the great japonicas in mind this was a very moving moment to spot the two flowers between the seedlings in the pot.
A treasure - well done!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 06, 2020, 12:27:35 AM
That is like icecream or sorbet! :)

Indeed Leena! Congratulation Carsten!

And you gave me courage, I was thinking if to show my first ever double flower after all the wonderful pictures posted.
I received a small batch named 'H. japonica silver leaf'. I manage to grow 4 plants; 2 have green leaves and flowered last year, 2 have silver marbled leaves and flowered this year. To my surprise one is double!
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Looks almost Mendelian :) I'm very interested in marbled leaves for Hepatica, which I think important to extend the 'interest' season.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 06, 2020, 07:32:18 AM
One double out of four plants is a good proportion ;-)
And a pretty one as well!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 07, 2020, 01:19:37 AM
One double out of four plants is a good proportion ;-)
And a pretty one as well!

Pure serendipity Carsten.
My favorites are those with simple or semi-double flowers with contrasting colored anthers. The full doubles are interesting but they distance too much from the archetypal Hepatica flower. I admire them, but that's all.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Simon R on March 07, 2020, 11:31:41 AM
Let me also contribute a hand full of pictures of the shows in Japan this year.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 07, 2020, 01:45:58 PM
Thank you, too, Simon. The variation is  amazing in these  little  plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 07, 2020, 11:48:01 PM
Let me also contribute a hand full of pictures of the shows in Japan this year.
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More beauties! Thanks for showing Simon. Especially the first one is very much on my liking :)
It was for sale?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gail on March 08, 2020, 04:40:06 PM
Hepatica x schlyteri (Blue Marble Group) from Ashwoods
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Simon R on March 08, 2020, 06:26:34 PM
Let me also contribute a hand full of pictures of the shows in Japan this year.
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More beauties! Thanks for showing Simon. Especially the first one is very much on my liking :)
It was for sale?

Yes Gabriela the first one was for sale but quite expensive as far as i remember. There were some nice types like this one on display.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 09, 2020, 02:19:33 AM
Thanks Simon. They are so spoiled with all these beauties available.

A H. japonica with interesting foliage.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 09, 2020, 08:20:00 AM
Hepatica x schlyteri (Blue Marble Group) from Ashwoods

Although H.japonicas in Japan are something I couldn't even have imagined, I also like very much Gail's blue H.x schlyteri. :)
Gabriela, the red leaves are indeed interesting.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 09, 2020, 08:22:46 AM
Hepatica x schlyteri (Blue Marble Group) from Ashwoods
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Beautiful Hepatica, Gail! The leaves are that still the old ones or already the new?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gail on March 09, 2020, 08:49:23 PM
I cut off the very old damaged ones but some remain, so it a mixture of old and new leaves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 09, 2020, 10:57:31 PM
Some new Hepatica's from Edrom nursery:
Hepatica nobilis 'Alabaster'
Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Schwanensee'
Hepatica x euroasiatica Professor Friedrich Hildebrandt
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 11, 2020, 04:55:19 PM
Hepatica maxima BSWJ 4344

Hepatica maxima 'Red Max'  probably a cross between H. maxima and H. nobilis 'Rubra'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 11, 2020, 11:58:38 PM
Some new Hepatica's from Edrom nursery:
Hepatica nobilis 'Alabaster'
Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Schwanensee'
Hepatica x euroasiatica Professor Friedrich Hildebrandt

All very nice additions to your Hepatica collection Herman.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 12, 2020, 07:28:14 AM
All very nice additions to your Hepatica collection Herman.
Thank you Gabriela, I am indeed very pleased with the new Hepatica's.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 12, 2020, 07:57:07 AM
Very nice plants, Herman. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2020, 12:36:37 AM
There are signs of spring, so I am trying to organize the pictures of Hepatica grown indoors. Seeing the new foliage starting to grow is equally exciting as the flowers.
From seeds of H. japonica 'Murasaki Choui', both forms have marbled foliage.
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And more promising seedlings :)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 13, 2020, 09:29:33 AM
There are signs of spring, so I am trying to organize the pictures of Hepatica grown indoors. Seeing the new foliage starting to grow is equally exciting as the flowers.
From seeds of H. japonica 'Murasaki Choui', both forms have marbled foliage.
And more promising seedlings :)
Gabriela, indeed the foliage is also very important, because we see it the whole year.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 13, 2020, 04:53:20 PM
Gabriela, the foliage looks very nice, but the red flowers are so wonderful! They are real red, not pinkish red like mine. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2020, 11:13:06 PM
Gabriela, indeed the foliage is also very important, because we see it the whole year.

In some cases the mottling fades away in the summer Herman, but still a nice extension after flowering. There are differences between the forms, for example the white flowered specimen maintains a good foliage till fall.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 13, 2020, 11:19:53 PM
Gabriela, the foliage looks very nice, but the red flowers are so wonderful! They are real red, not pinkish red like mine. :)

Thanks Leena. The foliage will change to green later, but the flowers are indeed 'real' red. I called her 'Ruby' :) Slow growing comparing with the others. I'll keep an eye open maybe seeds will be formed.
Few other plants are forming seeds, despite of my abusive treatment (garage/house, back to the garage...).

Another one with nice bronze new foliage - Hepatica henryi, also slow growing for me. Maybe it would like a special potting mix.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 14, 2020, 12:46:11 PM
Gabriela, I grow Hepatica henryi since 2017 in the garden under Pseudolarix amabilis. Now they have sun but in the summer they have shade and they stand in humus soil.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 14, 2020, 04:06:09 PM
Gabriela, I grow Hepatica henryi since 2017 in the garden under Pseudolarix amabilis. Now they have sun but in the summer they have shade and they stand in humus soil.

Thank you Herman. Your pink blushed henryi is very beautiful!
I will plant in the ground various H. japonica where I have more of the same variety but I will probably keep the henryi in the pot for now.
I'm also not very sure about its hardiness.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 14, 2020, 05:46:46 PM
Hepatica asiatica

Hepatica nobilis Multipetala Group from Ashwood.

Hepatica x media 'Millstream Merlin' is going to flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 15, 2020, 08:16:14 AM
Herman, multipetaled nobilis look really nice!  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2020, 09:10:43 AM
Herman, multipetaled nobilis look really nice!  :)
Leena, I placed this plant near the Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' and will see what happens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2020, 01:32:57 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Perrine's Pink' with later his beautiful leaves.

Hepatica nobilis plena from Gotland

Hepatica x media ‘Buis’ (selection Hepatica transsilvanica x H. nobilis)

I found this link on the web: http://www.flowercards.de/pdf/Hepatica%20-%20Leberbluemchen.pdf (http://www.flowercards.de/pdf/Hepatica%20-%20Leberbluemchen.pdf)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 16, 2020, 07:21:55 AM
H.nobilis Plena from Gotland looks fantastic, it really grows well in your garden.  :) I have never found doubles here in our woods.
I think also Hepaticas will be earlier than normal here this year. Yesterday I noticed the first flower buds in our native H.nobilis in the warmest place near my garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2020, 03:20:19 PM
Hepatica americana 'Rosea'

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2020, 03:22:32 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 16, 2020, 07:29:20 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica
A real beauty, Herman.  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 17, 2020, 08:47:28 AM
A real beauty, Herman.  :)
Maggi, it flowers for a long time because it is sterile. It is also a good grower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 17, 2020, 10:41:02 AM
Interesting  facts, Herman - thank you.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Rick R. on March 17, 2020, 08:40:35 PM
Sterile plants that look normal can be a real bonus.  Yours are wonderful, Herman.  Does the flower color fade since they last longer?  What about the pink stamens?  Are those all siblings in the pic?  They look pretty uniform.  Are athey all sterile?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 17, 2020, 09:05:54 PM
Sterile plants that look normal can be a real bonus.  Yours are wonderful, Herman.  Does the flower color fade since they last longer?  What about the pink stamens?  Are those all siblings in the pic?  They look pretty uniform.  Are athey all sterile?
Rick, all the plants are divisions from one plant. The colour stays almost the same till the end.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 18, 2020, 10:55:36 AM
Both grown in pots here, so I can admire these favorites from near by  :D

Hepatica x media 'Millstream Merlin'

and

Hepatica pyrenaica x japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 18, 2020, 11:52:42 PM
Both grown in pots here, so I can admire these favorites from near by  :D

Growing them in pots does have great advantage Luc!
In my opinion 'Millstream Merlin' is one of the greatest Hepatica cultivar of all time.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 18, 2020, 11:53:58 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica

Exquisite in its simplicity!!! Too bad it doesn't set seeds.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 03:32:41 PM
Some Hepaticas in a vase
Starting at the top clockwise
Hepatica nobilis double
Hepatica japonica
Hepatica nobilis 'Buttercup'
Hepatica acuta 'Nimbus'
Hepatica nobilis 'Blueberry'
Hepatica japonica

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
In 2017 I crossed Hepatica nob. var. nobilis 'Bavarian Blue' with Hepatica falconeri.
The first plants started to flower now. They all look very similar. The leaves are a mixture of both parents and the hybrids are summergreen as falconeri is. They start with an intensiv dark lilac blue and as the flower matures it gets lighter and ends up in a very light blue.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 03:53:01 PM
Three different filled F2 seedlings of Hepatica pyrenaica x Hepatica nobilis 'Bolette'.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 03:57:59 PM
Outside things start to flower.
These are all seedlings of Hepatica nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carolyn on March 19, 2020, 04:17:24 PM
Wow! fantastic colours in the vase.
All beautiful. Thanks for posting, Carsten.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 04:28:53 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue' and companions. A blue nobilis and it´s seedlings and the double japonica 'Shirayuki'.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 19, 2020, 04:29:09 PM
Beautiful show in your garden Carsten!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 04:38:13 PM
And some Hepatica x schlyteri (maxima x nobilis/japonica/acuta)
The dark blue is with nobilis, the pink with 'japonica 'Touyama shigure' and the light blue/whites are crosses with acuta.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 04:59:42 PM
Hepatica xmedia 'Königin Louise' (that says the lable of the late B. Moesch-de Haan) it looks more like x euroasiatica 'Prof. Friedrich Hildebrandt' MA
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Hepatica nobilis 'Finska Flaggan'
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Hepatica nobilis 'Ohleila' with 'Bergfexing'
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Hepatica obtusa seedling
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Hepatica japonica 'Shinku' with a white/rose japonica to get the real deep red right on the pic
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
... and the last 5 pics. All are own japonica seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2020, 05:12:26 PM
some  photos  from Ian Christie (Ian, the  Christie  Kind)

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 20, 2020, 07:56:59 PM
There is no end to beautiful Hepaticas! I am overwhelmed.

'Millstream Merlin' is really nice in colour and shape.
Carsten, what combination can result in a blue and white like in your first H.nobilis seedling picture? Not just blue x white, there must be something else in parentage?
Pictures of your Hepaticas outside look so happy and sunny, the plants really enjoy the spring sun and grow so well.
Is there a lot of sand in the soil?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2020, 09:51:14 AM

Carsten, what combination can result in a blue and white like in your first H.nobilis seedling picture? Not just blue x white, there must be something else in parentage?
Pictures of your Hepaticas outside look so happy and sunny, the plants really enjoy the spring sun and grow so well.
Is there a lot of sand in the soil?

This seedling is not a blue x white but a self pollinated bicoloured typ. Some seedlings came true, one was bicouloured in pink and the rest is white. I can send you one of the seedlings next week, too - if you like  ;)
In one of my raised beds I have a lot of pumice. This might be your idea of sand? Not ideal for Hepaticas as they easily freese up and roots are cut but fine for the rest of the plants in the bed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 21, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
This seedling is not a blue x white but a self pollinated bicoloured typ. Some seedlings came true, one was bicouloured in pink and the rest is white. I can send you one of the seedlings next week, too - if you like  ;)

Carsten, thank you :). So to get a bicoloured you need to have a bicoured parent.

In one of my raised beds I have a lot of pumice. This might be your idea of sand? Not ideal for Hepaticas as they easily freese up and roots are cut but fine for the rest of the plants in the bed.

Yes, here ground freezing may be a problem and if it then cuts the roots, it is bad. I have tried to make my special Hepatica beds as free draining as possible using sand and grit, and didn't think about how it might affect roots when the ground freezes (this winter its been freeze and melt and freeze and melt..). So far most look ok with flowers coming up. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2020, 05:41:22 PM
Carsten, thank you :). So to get a bicoloured you need to have a bicoured parent.
This helps a lot ;)  I had good results with bicouloured, spotted and maiden forms that fall reliable as the mother plant. This might be different with plants that had been cossed before and therefore result in a wider range of shapes.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 21, 2020, 09:25:26 PM
Some Hepaticas in a vase
Starting at the top clockwise
Hepatica nobilis double
Hepatica japonica
Hepatica nobilis 'Buttercup'
Hepatica acuta 'Nimbus'
Hepatica nobilis 'Blueberry'
Hepatica japonica


Your Hepatica collection is never ending Carstens :)
Could you please provide more info on Hepatica acutiloba 'Nimbus' (the one at 6 o'clock?). I heard about it last year for the first time but never found where from it originated. If possible to see the foliage it would be great - many thanks in advance.
Semidouble H. acutiloba are very rare, only found a white one after quite few years of scouting the woods.

Also thanks for your thoughts on using sand in the beds. I have an area in need of increased drainage if to plant more Hepaticas in the ground and never thought it would be detrimental. Pumice is not available here, unless in tiny, expensive bags. Must find something else..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on March 22, 2020, 12:05:41 PM
Unfortunately 'Nimbus' is not mine. I got the flower in the vase to watch it. But I will ask for some extra facts. Hope to get a pic of the leaves after all the corona mess in summer.

Sand/pumice again:  Don´t get me wrong. The problem with cut roots is only in one raised bed witch has some +50% in it. This is not a bed for Hepaticas but nobilis does grow ok there. I thought I would need the drainage for the japonicas (and onthers) but the plants get lifted by frost and need to be fixed in spring again.

So, I like to add 1/3 of pumice to my substrate for Hepaticas grown in pots and I do add it in raised beds, but too much causes problems.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on March 22, 2020, 08:45:02 PM
Thanks Carsten, I would really like to know more about Nimbus.

The quantity of added sand may be important, of course; 50% is quite a lot. It is more about the H. japonica cv. I want to plant in the ground that I worry.
H. acutiloba is flexible regarding to the substrate I noticed. H. americana require more dryish soils. In the wild they grow best on rocky slopes and I'm trying to reproduce the conditions.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 23, 2020, 10:04:50 AM
Deeply impressed with your Hepatica show Carsten !!  Lots of skill and dedication there !  Well done !!  :o :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on March 23, 2020, 03:25:53 PM
looking at all the beautiful Hepaticas shown here is great. Still under snow  and temperature at minus side.
Specially Cartsens Hepaticas and Gabrielas H.japonicas.
Too bad I can't grow H.Japonica here .
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: shelagh on March 23, 2020, 05:14:34 PM
Looking in the frame just now and took a pic of the Hepaticas which should have been on the benches. Some now have a lot of leaves these would have been removed for showing.
Top L-R Hep. nobilis, Hep. japonica HoHoBeni. an unkown Hep. japonica from Kimihiko some time ago and Hep. japonica Toki whose flowers are very small this year.
Bottom L-R Hep. japonica Blue Sandan, Hep japonica Gyousei, Hep. japonica Ryougetsu.

Also posting Hep. nobilis pink and Hep. nobilis Pygmy variety.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 27, 2020, 07:15:13 PM
Today the weather was good to take some pictures:

Hepatica nobilis 'Peach Blossom' selection from Lithuania, it is a pink form like the flower of a peach-tree. It is difficult to get the right colour on the picture.

Hepatica nobilis var. insularis

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence'

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 27, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
A couple  of  photos  from Alan Gardner

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"Hepatica transylvanica 'Mrs. Ellison Spence' flowering well this year."

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"One of my own Hepatica Nobilis seedlings flowering for the first time. Simple but nice "

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"Hepatica x Media Millstream Merlin doing well in my north facing trough"

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Roma on March 29, 2020, 09:46:21 PM
Hepatica nobilis - self sown seedlings

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A pink hepatica has been seeding here and I moved the seedlings to between the stones edging the bed.  So far all have been pink.

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Hepatica x media 'Ballardii'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on March 30, 2020, 04:55:55 PM
The fruits of another photographic session with the hepaticas. Included are several H.maxima hybrids with various other species.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on March 30, 2020, 06:16:48 PM
Very nice, everyone. :)
Anne, are maxima hybrids the bigger ones?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: annew on March 30, 2020, 07:58:25 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on March 31, 2020, 06:39:06 PM
How hardy is maxima hybrids? Outdoor to -10c with no snow?
Lovely plants
My nobilis are showing flowers too. The newly bought have been in flower for a month and the Transylvanicas are flowering too. The colder weather makes things last longer
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 05, 2020, 04:52:44 PM
Hepatica acutiloba 'Louise Koehler'
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Hepatica x media 'Blue Jewel'
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on April 12, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
At the beginning of the mountain biking season I am still slow enough to spot Hepaticas.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on April 12, 2020, 10:15:52 PM
Maiden forms are easy motherplants for crossings as they do not need to be prepared by removing the anthers. Both maiden forms show their crossing partners. Results will be seen in 3 or 4 years. The last pic is a seedling of Hepatica nobilis 'Freckles'.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 15, 2020, 09:34:20 AM
At the beginning of the mountain biking season I am still slow enough to spot Hepaticas.

I am amazed how wonderful and different Hepaticas grow in your region. Really beautiful.
Here also Hepaticas are now flowering in early places. There has been snow some nights this week so all flowers have stopped to develop for a while, but it is good that Hepatica season doesn't go over very fast.
Hepatica japonicas which I planted outside last year are starting to flower and so are H.pubescens, though there were some flowers already in the autumn, and so only a few flowers now. :)

I dug up one H.nobilis and divided it, and it's root system was really large and went deep! I think it was about 25cm deep and as much to the sides, really a lot of fine roots. No wonder they can also grow in drier places when they have such a lot of roots.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 15, 2020, 06:26:50 PM
Hepatica acutiloba 'Louise Koehler'

A beautiful acutiloba form Herman, sadly no one has it on offer here.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 15, 2020, 06:36:31 PM
At the beginning of the mountain biking season I am still slow enough to spot Hepaticas.

Wonderful pictures Carsten! Amazing to find such filled forms in the wild! H. americana is not as inclined as nobilis (and japonica) to doubling. At most I found few multipetal forms.
Maiden forms show up here in there, mainly for H. americana.

We are not allowed in the woods  ??? and any other wild areas, for now. The flowering is only beginning and I hope things will change. So, only Hepaticas from the garden can be enjoyed. The rabbits got a taste of them this year unfortunately.
H. acutiloba fo. rosea - the flowers were almost all eaten already
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H. acutiloba, blue form, a rarity in my region where the majority are white, or pink
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H. acutiloba white multipetal, the only such form I found to date
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 15, 2020, 06:40:25 PM
I am amazed how wonderful and different Hepaticas grow in your region. Really beautiful.
Here also Hepaticas are now flowering in early places. There has been snow some nights this week so all flowers have stopped to develop for a while, but it is good that Hepatica season doesn't go over very fast.
Hepatica japonicas which I planted outside last year are starting to flower and so are H.pubescens, though there were some flowers already in the autumn, and so only a few flowers now. :)

I dug up one H.nobilis and divided it, and it's root system was really large and went deep! I think it was about 25cm deep and as much to the sides, really a lot of fine roots. No wonder they can also grow in drier places when they have such a lot of roots.

That's good to hear Leena! Next week weather will improve here (cold now) and I will proceed with planting many potted 3 years old Hepatica - japonica and nobilis in the ground! I'll keep just a few in pots like a small collection.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 16, 2020, 09:21:02 AM
We are not allowed in the woods  ??? and any other wild areas, for now.

Thank goodness you have your own garden, it saves your spring. :)
H.acutiloba is very nice, my seedlings don't flower yet this year, but hopefully next year.
The multipetaled one is special. :)

This picture is from yesteday, it is H.japonica 'Hakurin' growing in the garden.  :) The brown in the middle of some of the flowers is maybe frost damage? Or from wet?
Still, very cute little Hepatica. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 16, 2020, 04:47:45 PM
Maiden forms show up here in there, mainly for H. americana.

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We are not allowed in the woods  ??? and any other wild areas, for now. The flowering is only beginning and I hope things will change. So, only Hepaticas from the garden can be enjoyed. The rabbits got a taste of them this year unfortunately.
H. acutiloba fo. rosea - the flowers were almost all eaten already
H. acutiloba, blue form, a rarity in my region where the majority are white, or pink
H. acutiloba white multipetal, the only such form I found to date


Gabriela, beautiful acutiloba's!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 16, 2020, 11:40:19 PM
Gabriela, beautiful acutiloba's!

Thank you Herman, there are few more not flowering yet but they cannot replace seeing the flowering in wild. I still hope the access to woods/green areas will reopen in time.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 16, 2020, 11:44:18 PM
Thank goodness you have your own garden, it saves your spring. :)
H.acutiloba is very nice, my seedlings don't flower yet this year, but hopefully next year.
The multipetaled one is special. :)

This picture is from yesteday, it is H.japonica 'Hakurin' growing in the garden.  :) The brown in the middle of some of the flowers is maybe frost damage? Or from wet?
Still, very cute little Hepatica. :)

Yes Leena, what would have been without the garden?!
Hakurin is very pretty :) I don't know what to say about the browning, H. americana and H. acutiloba can go through very low temp. without being affected. I noticed the flowers remain close in bad weather. Maybe the foliage on the ground retained too much moisture?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on April 17, 2020, 08:26:05 PM
Gabriela is it Corona or risk of Forest forest fires that stop you entering the forest?
Here we can enjoy a long flowering time as it is cold and sunny.
I have not been to the forest as it is a bit of distant where they grow and we are to avoid longer travels. I am happy that I got my hepaticas in the ground last autumn. Having also found some seedlings make me happy even if only one is flowering size.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 19, 2020, 07:12:01 AM
I got seeds of white Hepatica, some years ago. I assumed they were H.nobilis (they were given to only as white Hepatica), but the person who gave me seeds, has different ones.
I have been admiring this all April. Usually leaves of H.nobilis are tattered by spring, but with this plant, leaves are still in quite good condition (except some bug has eaten a bit of them). I can't make up my mind if this is H.nobilis or not..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 20, 2020, 11:40:18 PM
Gabriela is it Corona or risk of Forest forest fires that stop you entering the forest?
Here we can enjoy a long flowering time as it is cold and sunny.
I have not been to the forest as it is a bit of distant where they grow and we are to avoid longer travels. I am happy that I got my hepaticas in the ground last autumn. Having also found some seedlings make me happy even if only one is flowering size.

Here the spring has just began (sort of) Joakim, there is no risk of forest fire until July or August! But conservation areas and all parks, provincial and national are closed to the public, due to Covid-19 (until further notice...).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 20, 2020, 11:48:26 PM
I got seeds of white Hepatica, some years ago. I assumed they were H.nobilis (they were given to only as white Hepatica), but the person who gave me seeds, has different ones.
I have been admiring this all April. Usually leaves of H.nobilis are tattered by spring, but with this plant, leaves are still in quite good condition (except some bug has eaten a bit of them). I can't make up my mind if this is H.nobilis or not..

Looks like nobilis Leena, nice and robust; it would be impossible to say if a hybrid. I also raised from seeds a nobilis form with leathery foliage. Even the young seedlings last year retained a very beautiful, clean foliage until winter. Not in the garden yet though.
Here's a picture with it from a week or so ago. The flowers are blue in bud and then turn white while opening. It would look lovely in a group.
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The weather turned cold and not much else has happened in the garden. But another H. nobilis var. pyrenaica form bloomed in the cold frame.
A different shade than the blue one. Too many pots 'in waiting', I cannot wait to start planting.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 24, 2020, 06:48:46 PM
Looks like nobilis Leena, nice and robust; it would be impossible to say if a hybrid. I also raised from seeds a nobilis form with leathery foliage.

Thanks Gabriela.  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on April 25, 2020, 11:47:46 PM
We're back to spring after a cold week, more Hepatica will start flowering in the garden. Wild areas are still forbidden, so I will miss seeing them
in the woods this spring.
This is the new 'normal' with sticks around all flowers; rabbits eat the leaves first then were starting with the flowers  >:(
H. americana today
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 26, 2020, 09:29:09 AM
We're back to spring after a cold week, more Hepatica will start flowering in the garden. Wild areas are still forbidden, so I will miss seeing them
in the woods this spring.
This is the new 'normal' with sticks around all flowers; rabbits eat the leaves first then were starting with the flowers  >:(
H. americana today
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Gabriela, nice to see some Hepatica. Here it has been warm (till 23°C) and very dry wind. So the plants are  suffering. They predict some rain next week, it will be needed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 27, 2020, 06:25:46 PM
Gabriela, the first ones of H.americana from your seeds flowered this year for the first time. No pictures, but there were several different shades of blue. :)

The first picture is Hepatica crenatiloba.
The my seed grown H.japonica, and then H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni' and 'Shirayuki'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 27, 2020, 06:29:09 PM
'Houkan', I am so happy that  H.japonicas and all H.pubescens have survived in open ground. Winter was mild, but now they have all summer to grow more and when they are year older, they will be even better to go through next winter.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on April 29, 2020, 02:57:08 AM
Finally the weather in Saskatoon is warm and Hepaticas started to flower now.
1.Hepatica nobilis blue
2.Hepatica nobilis rose
3. Hepatice nobilis white
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on April 29, 2020, 03:01:00 AM
4. Hepatica transsilvanica Elison spece
5. Hepatica transsilvanica blue
6. Hepatica transsilvanica narrow petal
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 29, 2020, 10:42:46 AM
Kris, nice to see some beautiful Hepatica's!  :)
Here the season is over.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on April 29, 2020, 03:31:49 PM
Thanks Herman. The Hepatica season is just starting. Still some species are yet to flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on April 30, 2020, 07:18:48 PM
Kris, Hepaticas really love your garden. So much flowers! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 02, 2020, 07:17:01 PM
A friend told me about a place which is going to be destroyed soon and where Hepaticas grow.
I went to look and found some different kinds (but no doubles unfortunately), and because they were going to be killed anyway, took them.
This first one is maiden, am I right? It is very pretty.
Then there were two which had almost like bicolour flowers, but what are the dark spots?
I hope they are not because of virus or something like that, does anyone know?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 03, 2020, 02:42:05 AM
Kris, Hepaticas really love your garden. So much flowers! :)
You have some really nice Hepaticas and I like the natural look of them in  your garden.
It looks like the Hepaticas love the cold winter of Canada.!! My friend who has a lovely garden has Hepaticas with lots of flowers too.
Unfortunately I can't grow   H.japonica.
And I love to have a double blue Hepatica nobilis but so far no luck. No one sells it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 03, 2020, 03:13:23 AM
more and more Hepaticas are blooming now.
1.Hepatica nobilis  blue
2.Hepatica nobilis dark pink
3. Hepatica nobilis pink
4.Hepatica nobilis pyrenaica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 03, 2020, 03:17:43 AM
more pictures
5.Hepatica nobilis pyrenaica mauve
6.Hepatica transsilvanica "Schwanenss"
7.Hepatica transsilvanica white
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on May 03, 2020, 07:35:04 AM
Totally amazing! Love those 50 shades of blues! Gems lovelier than diamonds!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 03, 2020, 08:29:37 AM
Kris, your Hepatica's are flowering very well!  :)
I believe 6.Hepatica transsilvanica "Schwanenss"  must be Hepatica transsilvanica 'Schwanensee'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 03, 2020, 09:28:19 AM
A friend told me about a place which is going to be destroyed soon and where Hepaticas grow.
I went to look and found some different kinds (but no doubles unfortunately), and because they were going to be killed anyway, took them.
This first one is maiden, am I right? It is very pretty.
Then there were two which had almost like bicolour flowers, but what are the dark spots?
I hope they are not because of virus or something like that, does anyone know?
Nice Hepatica's Leena. I have never seen such dark spots. Maybe it is best to keep them in quarantine till you are sure that it is not a virus.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 03, 2020, 07:04:56 PM
Very nice Hepatica range Leena!

Kris: your large Hepatica clumps look amazing! Did you remove the leaves or rabbits eat them?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 03, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
A friend told me about a place which is going to be destroyed soon and where Hepaticas grow.
I went to look and found some different kinds (but no doubles unfortunately), and because they were going to be killed anyway, took them.
This first one is maiden, am I right? It is very pretty.
Then there were two which had almost like bicolour flowers, but what are the dark spots?
I hope they are not because of virus or something like that, does anyone know?

The maiden is quite pretty Leena, I obtained a similar one from seeds. I never seen dark spots on flowers or read about a disease looking like that; like Herman says, better to keep them away from the others for a while.

It is perfect weather for planting so don't have time to prepare many pictures for now.
One more from the garden - one more multipetal acutiloba
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And I made it to the woods, most Hepaticas are almost done flowering but not all :)
Hepatica americana
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 03, 2020, 10:05:59 PM
I remove the leaves since most of them are dead in spring.
Gabriela your seedlings of the Hepatica acutiloba and Americana are in the second year .It may take another 2years to flower. The growing time in Saskatoon is very short.
I love your Hepaticas. I have some H.acutiloba and one H.americana which I purchased are just forming buds now.  But somehow they don't thrive like the H.nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 03, 2020, 10:08:42 PM
Kris, your Hepatica's are flowering very well!  :)
I believe 6.Hepatica transsilvanica "Schwanenss"  must be Hepatica transsilvanica 'Schwanensee'
Thanks for correcting
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on May 03, 2020, 11:43:31 PM
Hi here most of the flowers are over but there have been quite good seed set on nobilis an transylvanica. Can the cone of seeds be removed to ripen indoors or can the seeds be taken before coming lose? I have ants and other plants that give debri so it might be difficult to secure the seeds. I am not planning to secure it by having tee bags or similar. Maybe I need to secure it.
Then I wonder if “Selma” is seed proof and also if white hepaticas stay white and pink stay pink or all become blue at least to a high degree.
I have also had nobilis and transylvanica blooming in the same time, is there risk/chance for hybrids? I have let nature do all work and have not secured anything to stop mixing of colours or hybrids. I also had acutoloba blooming at the same time so might be more into the mix.

Should the seeds be sown between the plants or sown in pots.

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2020, 07:53:05 AM
Thank you for the advice Gabriela and Herman. I have the plants in pots, how far away from other Hepaticas do you think I have to keep the pots? When the new leaves emerge I will see if they are normal, the old leaves are very tattered, like in all H.nobilis here.

Kris, very beautiful Hepaticas, your white H.transsilvanica is huge!
Gabriela, so pretty pastel shades. I got one H.americana seedling from your seeds which was just the same powdery blue with white in the center of flower, I liked it very much, but unfortunately I had planted it in quite shady place and flowers opened full only when sun hit that spot and I always missed that moment when I was out with camera.

Here are two more ordinary H.nobilis, blue and pink in the garden last week.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2020, 07:55:45 AM
Should the seeds be sown between the plants or sown in pots.

In my garden Hepaticas seed around them and seedlings come up the first spring, but then most of them disappear, I think slugs or snails eat them. So I get better results when I sow them in pots, and after they are two or three years old I can plant them outside and no-one eats them when they are bigger.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on May 04, 2020, 09:25:52 PM
Thanks for the input Leena
I thought more of winter damage than virus when I saw your photos but I am not an expert.
I have had Hepaticas in pots and they had seeds and I found their seedlings a few weeks ago and transplanted them to where I have the others so during certain conditions there might be smaller plants here.
I did put protection around all the seed heads by using the elastic self adhesive bandage that they wrap around you after donating blood. It is water permeable an took 1 minute to put around the seeds. Time will tell if it was ant proof or if the seeds would fall out some how.

Leena is the plants coming fairly true to colour or do you mostly get blue? Interesting to here more input on this.

I might plant some in place, give away some and place some in pots hoping that there might be some that will generate plants.

Hope all of you get good seed set
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 04, 2020, 10:19:24 PM
Thanks for the input Leena
I thought more of winter damage than virus when I saw your photos but I am not an expert.
I have had Hepaticas in pots and they had seeds and I found their seedlings a few weeks ago and transplanted them to where I have the others so during certain conditions there might be smaller plants here.
I did put protection around all the seed heads by using the elastic self adhesive bandage that they wrap around you after donating blood. It is water permeable an took 1 minute to put around the seeds. Time will tell if it was ant proof or if the seeds would fall out some how.

Leena is the plants coming fairly true to colour or do you mostly get blue? Interesting to here more input on this.

I might plant some in place, give away some and place some in pots hoping that there might be some that will generate plants.

Hope all of you get good seed set
Joakim, I plant my Hepatica's mostly in group of the same form and colour. Then the seedlings that appear are the same colour. But the ants sometimes can go a few meters away with the seeds from the original group. When I see that (when they are flowering) I dig them out and put them back in place.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 06, 2020, 02:00:22 AM
Thank you for the advice Gabriela and Herman. I have the plants in pots, how far away from other Hepaticas do you think I have to keep the pots? When the new leaves emerge I will see if they are normal, the old leaves are very tattered, like in all H.nobilis here.

Kris, very beautiful Hepaticas, your white H.transsilvanica is huge!
Gabriela, so pretty pastel shades. I got one H.americana seedling from your seeds which was just the same powdery blue with white in the center of flower, I liked it very much, but unfortunately I had planted it in quite shady place and flowers opened full only when sun hit that spot and I always missed that moment when I was out with camera.

Here are two more ordinary H.nobilis, blue and pink in the garden last week.

Nice colors of nobilis Leena, and I notice there are still Crocus in flower? Here they are out long time already.
Yes, H. americana really enjoys a full sun in the spring (more than acutiloba). I also have problems finding good spots.

Hard to say how far away to keep the pots with problem Hepatica; viruses are usually transmitted via insects, but it is not very usual for Hepatica to get insect attacks, so I would say it is not a great danger.
As you said, when the new leaves emerge it will be more clear if a virus or not.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 06, 2020, 02:05:03 AM
I remove the leaves since most of them are dead in spring.
Gabriela your seedlings of the Hepatica acutiloba and Americana are in the second year .It may take another 2years to flower. The growing time in Saskatoon is very short.
I love your Hepaticas. I have some H.acutiloba and one H.americana which I purchased are just forming buds now.  But somehow they don't thrive like the H.nobilis.

Indeed Kris. Using indoor lights in the garage I can get going some seedlings starting February and it makes a big difference.
It is very curious that H. nobilis would do better than our native species. It may also make a difference if you start with small or large plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 06, 2020, 02:11:02 AM
Just a few H. acutiloba from the wild taken a few days ago, the flowering was almost done but the new new foliage is also very attractive. I actually went looking at H. americana in the last days. When temp. start rising here in the spring it is amazing how fast the wildflowers bloom.

This one was actually very fragrant and it was windy so I 'made' a bouquet :)
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Solitary bees can sometimes feed on nectar. pollen, sorry, typed in a hurry.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on May 06, 2020, 06:53:01 AM
Very pretty, Gabriela!

Anyone knows if the seeds of the nobilis are viable please?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 06, 2020, 07:25:00 AM
Just a few H. acutiloba from the wild taken a few days ago, the flowering was almost done but the new new foliage is also very attractive. I actually went looking at H. americana in the last days. When temp. start rising here in the spring it is amazing how fast the wildflowers bloom.

This one was actually very fragrant and it was windy so I 'made' a bouquet :)
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Solitary bees can sometimes feed on nectar.
Beautiful Hepatica's Gabriela. It is a pity that we can't smell it.  :(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 06, 2020, 07:31:09 AM
Very pretty, Gabriela!

Anyone knows if the seeds of the nobilis are viable please?

When the seeds are fully grown and come loose, sowing them immediately gives the best results. You may never let them dry out completely.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: ashley on May 06, 2020, 09:44:03 AM
Just a few H. acutiloba from the wild ...

Such beautiful plants Gabriela.  Thank you for showing them.

My apology for a tangential question but in your third photo above I suppose this is Trillium grandiflorum, with many single-stemmed plants.  Presumably this is usual, due to abundant seed production and limited space (Canada ::)) but do these plants readily form clonal clumps where there's less crowding?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 06, 2020, 01:48:05 PM
Glad you enjoy it Ashley. I posted in a bit of a hurry and didn't put all names (also wrote 'feeding on nectar' instead 'on pollen' - but no one noticed, hmm..).

Now that you mention Ashley, I have to say that if I think at all my usual hiking places, the fact that they are crowded or not doesn't seem to make a difference in forming clonal clumps. Even in sparse populations many are solitary. It may be genetic? or stimulated by environmental conditions? I will pay closer attention in the future.

I also have to point out that not everywhere can be seen that abundance of Trillium grandiflorum (or Hepatica). Even in what's called here 'high quality woods' it happens somehow I should say, 'in pockets'. One can hike for a while seeing just few Trilliums here and there and then will stumble upon a dense, localized population. A sign that ants and other 'thieves' don't carry the seeds to long distances.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: ashley on May 06, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Glad you enjoy it Ashley. I posted in a bit of a hurry and didn't put all names (also wrote 'feeding on nectar' instead 'on pollen' - but no one noticed, hmm..).

It seemed entirely plausible to me Gabriela as both would be needed ;)

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Now that you mention Ashley, I have to say that if I think at all my usual hiking places, the fact that they are crowded or not doesn't seem to make a difference in forming clonal clumps. Even in sparse populations many are solitary. It may be genetic? or stimulated by environmental conditions? I will pay closer attention in the future.

That's reassuring as my trilliums from seed tend to bulk up v-e-r-y slowly, in contrast to the fat clumps shown here on the forum :-\
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 06, 2020, 06:52:31 PM
Nice colors of nobilis Leena, and I notice there are still Crocus in flower? Here they are out long time already.

Thanks Gabriela. That picture was taken a week ago. While it has been several degrees warmer than usually all winter from December until March, April has been colder than usually, and so spring has been very slow. Of course I don't mind it at all. Hepaticas have flowered for almost a month this year! Crocuses are now over, those big white ones are always the latest ones to flower.
This first week of May has been quite warm, but next week it will be again colder than usually.. There are still some Hepaticas flowering, and the first one of H.acutiloba from your seeds has now flowers (it grows in quite shady place). I have many now in pots waiting to be planted in the ground. :)
They are very beautiful in your pictures, and the shade of flowers seems to be different than our local H.nobilis from what I can see in the first ones flowering here. Their flowers are a bit smaller, but it may be due to them being young plants and first flowering.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 07, 2020, 12:22:20 AM
It seemed entirely plausible to me Gabriela as both would be needed ;)
That's reassuring as my trilliums from seed tend to bulk up v-e-r-y slowly, in contrast to the fat clumps shown here on the forum :-\

True Ashley, only that Hepatica flowers do not have nectar (fortunately or unfortunately, depending how you look at the situation).

Yes, I also wonder at the huge Trillium clumps shown in the pictures. I noticed that some species will clump better than others and then,
 maybe sometimes there were just few seedlings planted together to begin with. I know you could tell at a close inspection but not easy from pictures.
For ex. I have a small clump-looking group of T. grandiflorum but I know very well I've planted 3-4 seedlings close together; someone seeing it might not notice.
Well, just an idea...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 07, 2020, 12:28:44 AM
Thanks Gabriela. That picture was taken a week ago. While it has been several degrees warmer than usually all winter from December until March, April has been colder than usually, and so spring has been very slow. Of course I don't mind it at all. Hepaticas have flowered for almost a month this year! Crocuses are now over, those big white ones are always the latest ones to flower.
This first week of May has been quite warm, but next week it will be again colder than usually.. There are still some Hepaticas flowering, and the first one of H.acutiloba from your seeds has now flowers (it grows in quite shady place). I have many now in pots waiting to be planted in the ground. :)
They are very beautiful in your pictures, and the shade of flowers seems to be different than our local H.nobilis from what I can see in the first ones flowering here. Their flowers are a bit smaller, but it may be due to them being young plants and first flowering.

You surely had a very good, prolonged spring Leena. First year flowering is not very representative for Hepatica, but always nice to see a first flower :)
I also can't complain considering the horrible rainy/cold spring of last year. Only that a new wave of cold air will return starting Friday; at this point I worry more about the Epimediums which already have flowering stems! (some were already destroyed a week ago during -6C nights  :'(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 07, 2020, 07:03:18 AM
Only that a new wave of cold air will return starting Friday; at this point I worry more about the Epimediums which already have flowering stems! (some were already destroyed a week ago during -6C nights  :'(

Yes, it is predicted the same here, nights below freezing next week. My Epimeidums are also now in bud, so for the first time, I will try to protect them somehow. I also worry about Trilliums which are now in flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: ashley on May 07, 2020, 11:43:59 AM
True Ashley, only that Hepatica flowers do not have nectar (fortunately or unfortunately, depending how you look at the situation).

Thanks Gabriela; I didn't know but constantly learn on this forum 8)   
Which in turn leads me to wonder ;D whether bees 'know' this or are nectar-foragers deceived into dispersing pollen?

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Yes, I also wonder at the huge Trillium clumps shown in the pictures. I noticed that some species will clump better than others and then, maybe sometimes there were just few seedlings planted together to begin with.

Yes presumably some are multiple plantings given how seedling roots easily become entangled.  It seems likely too that there are species and clonal differences in tendency to clump, as well as environmental factors.  Because the few species & hybrids I have, all seed-grown so presumably genetically variable, bulk up so slowly I wondered whether their growing conditions might be less than ideal.  Against that, they're growing in various places around the garden but behave much the same :-\
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 07, 2020, 02:35:42 PM
Yes, it is predicted the same here, nights below freezing next week. My Epimeidums are also now in bud, so for the first time, I will try to protect them somehow. I also worry about Trilliums which are now in flower.

Even if we are here in the Hepatica thread, just to say that you really have to protect the Epimediums Leena; -2C is probably the safety limit. I am talking about the Chinese species and hybrids, with those tender new leaves. I am using few very light fleece, also inverted pots work well (lined with plastic bags). Also the new buds on Deinanthe have been destroyed at -5C.
We shall see about the Trilliums...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 07, 2020, 02:44:27 PM
Thanks Gabriela; I didn't know but constantly learn on this forum 8)   
Which in turn leads me to wonder ;D whether bees 'know' this or are nectar-foragers deceived into dispersing pollen?

As far as I read Ashley, they don't 'know' :) but rather are trying whatever is available from lack of other food sources. The solitary bees have little else to feed on in very early spring in the woods here, nectar-wise, except some Salix, Acer species, Lonicera canadensis....
I very rarely see them on Hepatica flowers in the garden.

Re: back to Trilliums. Do other people in Ireland have large Trillium clumps?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: WSGR on May 08, 2020, 07:18:55 AM
Thank you, Herman!

I'm going to treat myself to some prettier ones. I am always too mean and also I dread that they won't grow in dry east London soil. It was a risk well taken.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 09, 2020, 01:51:16 AM
Hepaticas are still flowering
1. Hepatica nobilis rubraplena
2.Hepatica acutiloba
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 09, 2020, 08:20:23 PM
Very pretty Kris. Here H. acutiloba is almost done, after quite a long season due to the cold weather.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: kris on May 10, 2020, 03:18:55 AM
Thanks Gabriela . I have great affinity for the North American Hepaticas. They are very elegant. But for my climate vary rarely they bloom nicely. Last year due to fluctuations of the temperature the flowers were not developed well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 10, 2020, 03:47:55 PM
Thanks Gabriela . I have great affinity for the North American Hepaticas. They are very elegant. But for my climate vary rarely they bloom nicely. Last year due to fluctuations of the temperature the flowers were not developed well.

My opinion is Kris that rather our garden conditions are to be 'blamed' for not being able to nicely grow various species, than the climate (I am not talking about tropical species of course).
As a concrete example: you have those gorgeous H. transsilvanica clumps in the garden; well, in their native land (with which I am very familiar ;) they grow in a very different climate. I would say zone 6, if you to give a zone, and the winters are not even near as harsh as those in SK. More than this, the snow cover is not reliable.
Of course, clones that were grown in the garden gradually adapted over time to different conditions.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 10, 2020, 07:29:58 PM
Thanks Gabriela for advise regarding Epimediums. Night between Monday and Tuesday will be the coldest according to forecast.

H.transsilvanica grows also here well, and is hardy.
I managed to get a picture of last of the blue nice flower of H.americana. :)
Second picture is  'Louise Kohler', very pretty! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on May 11, 2020, 07:17:33 PM
I hope your Epimediums are OK Leena. Two more very cold nights here before 'spring' gets back to normal.

Pretty Hepatica americana and the 'KL' :) Here H. americana is also nearing the end of flowering. A pure white, a bicolor, and one of my favorite with a nice display of old and new leaves.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on May 18, 2020, 11:29:21 PM
Nice contrast between the old an new foliage Leena
The two- toned is also very nice.

How long does it take for the seeds of nobilis to develop? They seems to be ready and mature for two weeks to a month now. Are they supposed to fall off by itself?
I really want to sow the seeds and see them come up. Btw is the seeds germinating now in spring or is it a long process?
The seeds and the foliage is the joy now when the flowers are gone.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on May 19, 2020, 06:04:01 PM
Very nice two toned blue, Gabriela. :)

Btw is the seeds germinating now in spring or is it a long process?

Seed of Hepatica fall off when they are still green, so it is best to bag the seed pods to catch the seeds. Otherwise they will be gone one morning.
Hepatica seeds must be sown when they are still fresh, and they germinate the next spring, so it is a long process. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Diane Whitehead on May 20, 2020, 04:32:55 AM
I place a pot of soil under the flowers so the seeds drop in and sow themselves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Joakim B on May 20, 2020, 10:41:30 PM
Thanks for the info about the long time to see results Lena.
I have bagged all seed heads so this year I will not try Diane's great and simple idea. They just take so long time to mature!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 02, 2020, 02:18:25 PM
In an article from Lincoln Foster in 1966 (American Rock Garden Society Vol 24 no 1) I found following name: Hepatica acutiloba 'Millstream Pink'.
Does this Hepatica still exist?
You can find the article: https://nargs.org/sites/default/files/free-rgq-downloads/VOL_24_NO_1.pdf
Look on page 12!

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: shelagh on November 03, 2020, 11:43:15 AM
Herman I only know of Millstream  Merlin.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 03, 2020, 02:59:15 PM
Herman I only know of Millstream  Merlin.
Shelagh, I have now added  the link to that article. Millstream Merlin grows in our garden. But Milstream Pink is unknown to me.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: shelagh on November 04, 2020, 02:09:13 PM
A very interesting article and it sounds like Millstream Pink would be a worthwhile addition to any garden. However I see the publication was 1966 so perhaps it has gone out of cultivation. Millstream Merlin doesn't appear to produce viable seed in our experience so this could be a reason for it's disapperance or perhaps one of our American friends will find you one.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on November 07, 2020, 04:32:53 PM
RE: Hepatica 'Millstream Pink' :

None  of  my  contacts  in  NARGS ( North American Rock Garden Society)  know  of  this  plant  still being  in cultivation. Seems  we're  out  of  luck in finding  it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 07, 2020, 06:43:34 PM
RE: Hepatica 'Millstream Pink' :

None  of  my  contacts  in  NARGS ( North American Rock Garden Society)  know  of  this  plant  still being  in cultivation. Seems  we're  out  of  luck in finding  it.
Thank you Maggi.

H . LINCOL N FOSTER, Falls Village, Conn.:
It has taken ten years to build up a stock and introduce into the gardens of
friends H. acutiloba "Millstream Pink." This is a vigorous plant with large blossoms of vivid, deep pink, an outstanding individual in any collection. Distributed now into many gardens, this solitary plant, found after long search amidst hosts
of plants in many sites, will perhaps persist in cultivation. It might have been
destroyed in the wild! 


"Distributed in many gardens" Maybe the plant still exists somewhere in a botanical or other garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 08, 2020, 12:22:18 AM
In an article from Lincoln Foster in 1966 (American Rock Garden Society Vol 24 no 1) I found following name: Hepatica acutiloba 'Millstream Pink'.
Does this Hepatica still exist?
You can find the article: https://nargs.org/sites/default/files/free-rgq-downloads/VOL_24_NO_1.pdf
Look on page 12!

A good read and nice to have a look at an old black & white Journal Herman. I never heard about this form; like others already pointed out here, it may be lost unfortunately.
It is very hard to produce stock to distribute at least in few other gardens starting just from 1-2 plants.

Millstream Merlin I understand is a hybrid of unknown parentage; does the foliage resemble H. acutiloba?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 08, 2020, 12:29:45 AM
It is that time of year when Hepaticas are starting to draw attention again from the woodland floor. This year I notice that most H. americana show marbled foliage.
H. americana
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In late summer I planted for the first time few H. japonica plants raised from seeds in the garden. Raising from seeds surely gives you a chance to experiment :)
Already looking fwd to the spring!
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 08, 2020, 09:55:30 AM
A good read and nice to have a look at an old black & white Journal Herman. I never heard about this form; like others already pointed out here, it may be lost unfortunately.
It is very hard to produce stock to distribute at least in few other gardens starting just from 1-2 plants.

Millstream Merlin I understand is a hybrid of unknown parentage; does the foliage resemble H. acutiloba?
Gabriela,

'Millstream Merlin'

Ashwood nursery
Hepatica `Millstream Merlin` is thought to be a cross between H. transsilvanica and H. americana, raised by H. Lincoln Foster, Connecticut. The long lasting, intense purple blue flowers are irregularly semi double, with no stamens, they also have a tendency to rebloom, an exceptional hepatica.

Edrom nursery
This has to be one of the most beautiful of the non japonica hybrid Hepaticas.
Flowers are made up of broad blue petals, a good strong blue and arguably the deepest blue on any except maybe some japonica hybrids. Foliage is tri-lobed and mid green in colour, dying away for the colder winter months. The flowers tend to rise in early spring before the fresh green foliage. Deep cobalt blue, deeper than Hepatica nobilis Cobalt blue but slower growing. Completely sterile and therefore the flowers last considerably longer.
Quite possibly a hybrid between H. media and H. acutiloba.


Edrom nursery uses then the name Hepatica x media ‘Millstream Merlin’
 
Mister Hepatica (Andreas Händel)
Hepatica `Millstream Merlin` a legendary plant of Lincoln Foster. The foliage leaves also look at this intersection very similar to those of mother transsilvanica, but stand the flowers are erect and appear very numerous.
The flowers are 30-35mm in diameter evenly round with 8-12 petals.


Gabriela, I think there is surely H. acutiloba involved. The position of the flowers is like the one's of acutiloba. The leaves show H. transsilvanica blood.

About "x media" I don't know. Then the cross should be (H. nobilis x H. transsilvanica) x H. acutiloba


 I have taken today a picture of a leave.

So which name is correct:

Hepatica `Millstream Merlin` or  Hepatica x media ‘Millstream Merlin’
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 08, 2020, 02:38:07 PM
Thank you Herman. I have seen many flower pictures of this stunning cultivar but not so much with the foliage.

What I once read, and don't remember where, is that this cultivar was a chance plant which appeared in the garden of L. Foster. This is the reason why everyone can only guess about its parentage and write it according with their beliefs. Jurgen Peters also assign it in his book to H. transsilvanica x acutiloba.

So, I don't think there is a 'correct' name for it, unless someone can prove the parentage. I didn't have the chance to see many hybrids of both crosses in real and thus cannot really give an informed opinion about it.
It seems there can be great variation, foliage wise, for both crosses variants, same like it happens with H. acutiloba if one looks well over a large range in wild populations.
The only certain thing is about H. transsilvanica involvement.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on November 08, 2020, 06:30:27 PM
It is that time of year when Hepaticas are starting to draw attention again from the woodland floor. This year I notice that most H. americana show marbled foliage.

Very nice wild plant. Here deer eat Hepatica leaves so much that it is difficult to find them in the wild this time of year:(.
Lucky that I have now fence mostly around the garden so they won't be eaten in my garden any more.

Herman and Gabriela, thank you for the discussion about 'Millstream Merlin'. I have loved it in pictures and it just happens that I bought it couple of weeks ago, and it is coming tomorrow in mail:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on November 08, 2020, 06:56:49 PM
A photo of  a  lovely  pot  of  Hepatica  'Millstream Merlin' shown by  Jane  and Alan Thompson at the  Edingburgh Show  in 2016 - it  won a  Certificate  of  Merit.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Jon Evans on November 08, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
This shows the leaves well.  H. Millstream Merlin shown by Robin White at the Exeter Show in 2008.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 09, 2020, 12:16:34 AM
Beautiful pictures of a great plant! thanks Maggi and Jon.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 09, 2020, 12:20:48 AM
Very nice wild plant. Here deer eat Hepatica leaves so much that it is difficult to find them in the wild this time of year:(.
Lucky that I have now fence mostly around the garden so they won't be eaten in my garden any more.

Herman and Gabriela, thank you for the discussion about 'Millstream Merlin'. I have loved it in pictures and it just happens that I bought it couple of weeks ago, and it is coming tomorrow in mail:).


I am green with envy, or better said blue Leena :)) kidding, I hope it will grow well in your garden.

I think I mentioned the rabbits eat quite a few of mine this spring Leena :( I'll have to be careful next spring. It is very good you put up a fence.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 09, 2020, 07:19:41 AM
Maggi and Jon, indeed beautiful pictures. It is always a pleasure to see big plants. In the garden it takes some time to see such plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on November 09, 2020, 08:19:05 AM
Very interesting discussion on a superb plant.
I got mine some 15 years ago from Robin White at the Kent Show (those were the days !!  :-[ )    Still going strong and it's had many babies since.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 09, 2020, 09:02:55 AM
Very interesting discussion on a superb plant.
I got mine some 15 years ago from Robin White at the Kent Show (those were the days !!  :-[ )    Still going strong and it's had many babies since.
Luc, very impressive!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 17, 2020, 12:27:41 AM
Very interesting discussion on a superb plant.
I got mine some 15 years ago from Robin White at the Kent Show (those were the days !!  :-[ )    Still going strong and it's had many babies since.

Your plant is beautiful Luc! It pays to have H. transsilvanica in the parentage, propagation wise.
The fact that this cultivar is not available here, despite the US origin, shows very well how very little interest Canadians have in Hepatica  :-\
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Diane Whitehead on November 17, 2020, 02:28:50 AM
I checked in the two books by Linc Foster that I own, to see what he had to say about Millstream Merlin, but he didn't write about it at all.  Instead, he was excited by a pink one:

"It has taken ten years to build up a stock and introduce into the gardens of friends H. acutiloba 'Millstream Pink'.  This is a vigorous plant with large blossoms of vivid deep pink, an outstanding individual in any collection. Distributed now into many gardens, this solitary plant, found after long search amidst hosts of plants in many sites, will perhaps persist in cultivation. It might have been destroyed in the wild!"

I wonder if that one has persisted.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 17, 2020, 08:40:57 AM
I checked in the two books by Linc Foster that I own, to see what he had to say about Millstream Merlin, but he didn't write about it at all.  Instead, he was excited by a pink one:

"It has taken ten years to build up a stock and introduce into the gardens of friends H. acutiloba 'Millstream Pink'.  This is a vigorous plant with large blossoms of vivid deep pink, an outstanding individual in any collection. Distributed now into many gardens, this solitary plant, found after long search amidst hosts of plants in many sites, will perhaps persist in cultivation. It might have been destroyed in the wild!"

I wonder if that one has persisted.
Diana, I also hope that Hepatica acutiloba 'Millstream Pink' still exist. There is also the possibility that it stands in someone's garden but that the name is forgotten.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on November 24, 2020, 03:06:56 PM
It has been a mild autumn this year, and some Hepaticas have already very big buds above ground. The most advanced are H.japonica and H.x schlyteri and to some extent also H.pubescens. H.nobilis doesn't show buds yet.
Many times we can have cold temperatures without snowcover in the beginning of winter, it is often -10C and it can be even -20C.
Last winter was very mild, -13C was the lowest (with practically now snow) and there were no damage then, but I don't remember if buds were this advanced then.
What would you advise be to protect these buds of H.japonica? Can I put more soil around them or is that bad? I have dry oak leaves which I always spread on top of my most precious plants just before the frosts come, but is that enough?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 25, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
It has been a mild autumn this year, and some Hepaticas have already very big buds above ground. The most advanced are H.japonica and H.x schlyteri and to some extent also H.pubescens. H.nobilis doesn't show buds yet.
Many times we can have cold temperatures without snowcover in the beginning of winter, it is often -10C and it can be even -20C.
Last winter was very mild, -13C was the lowest (with practically now snow) and there were no damage then, but I don't remember if buds were this advanced then.
What would you advise be to protect these buds of H.japonica? Can I put more soil around them or is that bad? I have dry oak leaves which I always spread on top of my most precious plants just before the frosts come, but is that enough?
Here the Hepatica's are also showing some life. Leena, I don't have japonica in the garden, after a few years they are always disappeared. Shredded leaves give a good protection and if this is not enough you can use a piece of bubble wrap above the leaves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 25, 2020, 06:01:06 PM
It has been a mild autumn this year, and some Hepaticas have already very big buds above ground. The most advanced are H.japonica and H.x schlyteri and to some extent also H.pubescens. H.nobilis doesn't show buds yet.
Many times we can have cold temperatures without snowcover in the beginning of winter, it is often -10C and it can be even -20C.
Last winter was very mild, -13C was the lowest (with practically now snow) and there were no damage then, but I don't remember if buds were this advanced then.
What would you advise be to protect these buds of H.japonica? Can I put more soil around them or is that bad? I have dry oak leaves which I always spread on top of my most precious plants just before the frosts come, but is that enough?

Those buds are looking very promising Leena! I suspect is because H. japonica has its genetic clock set to flower much earlier than other species. I also noted very large buds on my biggest H. japonica (in pots); in the ground I planted only smaller size plants (fingers crossed). Also, H. nobilis var. pyrenaica seems very advanced.

Like Herman says, a layer of shredded leaves will help. If it gets super cold with no snow you can also try to place on top of the plants pots padded inside with pieces of thermal blankets (bubble too but I prefer non-plastic materials).
I used this method in early spring when all peonies buds were very advanced and a cold snap arrived (also a stone on top to keep the pots from flying with the wind). 

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carsten on November 26, 2020, 08:31:30 AM
It has been a mild autumn this year, and some Hepaticas have already very big buds above ground. The most advanced are H.japonica and H.x schlyteri and to some extent also H.pubescens. H.nobilis doesn't show buds yet.
Many times we can have cold temperatures without snowcover in the beginning of winter, it is often -10C and it can be even -20C.
Last winter was very mild, -13C was the lowest (with practically now snow) and there were no damage then, but I don't remember if buds were this advanced then.
What would you advise be to protect these buds of H.japonica? Can I put more soil around them or is that bad? I have dry oak leaves which I always spread on top of my most precious plants just before the frosts come, but is that enough?
Dear Leena,
'Shirayuki' indeed seems too much grown out of the substrate as you can see the roots as well. I would give them just a bit of extra substrate to cover just the base of the buds or 1/3 of it. When they do not get extra leaf litter every year like in the woods they tend to grow out of the substate easily. And extra protection as the others said helps, too  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on November 26, 2020, 03:27:32 PM
Thank you Herman, Gabriela and Carsten! :)
I was thinking of adding more sandy soil around the plants, but wasn't sure if it was ok. Now I will do it! Thank you.
I'm glad you could see from the picture just how above ground the buds are.
I use dried oak leaves around many of my special plants, and so far it has been enough for my seed grown H.japonica, but these double ones are even more precious for me, so that is why I asked.

Those buds are looking very promising Leena! I suspect is because H. japonica has its genetic clock set to flower much earlier than other species.

I was thinking just the same, that it must be genetical, but as long as they don't get damaged by the cold, it is ok.
I can't wait for next spring, there are so many nice plants coming into flower, some for the first time, and some have grown so they look now even better than previously. And then there are new seeds which should germinate in the spring:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on November 28, 2020, 06:39:35 PM
I was thinking just the same, that it must be genetical, but as long as they don't get damaged by the cold, it is ok.
I can't wait for next spring, there are so many nice plants coming into flower, some for the first time, and some have grown so they look now even better than previously. And then there are new seeds which should germinate in the spring:).

What I hope Leena, is that by growing successive generations of H. japonica, some will adapt and reset their flowering clock. Wanting to flower somewhere February in the ground is a big no, no here, or other cold regions.
Yes, there is a lot to look fwd in the spring! and just to let you know that some of the Hepatica japonica seeds have already started the germination! (found them last week in few leftovers bags, I just sowed them all of course).
H. japonica - the form I showed with pink/white flowers, call it 'Cherry Blossoms'
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H. japonica ex. Murasaki
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on November 29, 2020, 06:32:01 PM
Yes, there is a lot to look fwd in the spring! and just to let you know that some of the Hepatica japonica seeds have already started the germination! (found them last week in few leftovers bags, I just sowed them all of course).

Gabriela, good to know!
My Hepatica seeds are in pots in the root cellar (from my own plants, from your seeds and from seeds bought elsewhere - there are 14 pots of Hepatica sown this year!), I have to keep an eye on them if they start to germinate this early. Actually it is nice to have seedling pots inside under lamps during winter, it helps winter pass more quickly:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on December 01, 2020, 12:26:43 AM
Gabriela, good to know!
My Hepatica seeds are in pots in the root cellar (from my own plants, from your seeds and from seeds bought elsewhere - there are 14 pots of Hepatica sown this year!), I have to keep an eye on them if they start to germinate this early. Actually it is nice to have seedling pots inside under lamps during winter, it helps winter pass more quickly:).

Only 14 Leena?  :) :D
Only the roots will grow now, the leaves should appear somewhere in the spring. It is good to know some of the forms are growing roots and will germinate completely in the spring though; not all are doing it in the first year as we know.
This remains a mystery for me, why when kept in the same conditions some Hepatica seeds germinate in the first year and some only in the second spring? unless is an adaptation to produce offsprings over successive years, as a back up policy.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gunilla on December 01, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
What I hope Leena, is that by growing successive generations of H. japonica, some will adapt and reset their flowering clock. Wanting to flower somewhere February in the ground is a big no, no here, or other cold regions.
Yes, there is a lot to look fwd in the spring! and just to let you know that some of the Hepatica japonica seeds have already started the germination! (found them last week in few leftovers bags, I just sowed them all of course).

That is something to hope for Gabriela, then it would be much easier to grow them outside in the garden. Some of my H. japonica have already started to flower and winter hasn't even started yet.
Last year at the beginning of December I emptied a pot with hepatica seed sown earlier that year. I wanted to see if something was going on under the surface. The roots were more developed than I could have guessed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on December 02, 2020, 10:32:55 AM
Gunilla, the roots are really big. I didin't know Hepaticas were also plants which grow roots first, then after cold leaves in spring.
It seems many spring plants are like this.

Maybe a  stupid question, but what time of year Hepaticas grow most roots? In summer after flowering or autumn?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gunilla on December 02, 2020, 11:03:05 AM
Leena, I believe they grow most roots in spring and autumn. This is also the time when I repot and/or divide my plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Leena on December 02, 2020, 11:12:34 AM
Thanks Gunilla:). We were just talking with a friend about Hepaticas, and how if they are planted/transplanted in spring/early summer, they don't grow any more new leaves all summer, and seem to start growing again well only the next year. I was thinking that maybe they grow only roots the same year when transplanted and then after rooting properly, grow more and better leaves year after that.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 02, 2020, 03:41:01 PM
Very interesting comment! Thank you. We still learn every day.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on December 02, 2020, 08:45:24 PM
That is something to hope for Gabriela, then it would be much easier to grow them outside in the garden. Some of my H. japonica have already started to flower and winter hasn't even started yet.
Last year at the beginning of December I emptied a pot with hepatica seed sown earlier that year. I wanted to see if something was going on under the surface. The roots were more developed than I could have guessed.

Wow, it is so early Gunilla. Are they in the greenhouse?
I am confident that some will adapt in time. I also left pots with H. japonica in my cold frame last winter (a simple frame with minimal protection) and the ones old enough flowered in late March and April, so almost the same like the native ones. In the ground, the soil heats up fast in the spring and it may be different though.

Thank you for the picture! They are so cute. I always wondered at the long roots the tiny seedlings can grow.
I will look for few pictures showing the roots I took last spring before transplanting young seedlings. I had a best ever success with transplanting very early before they started to grow.
I only transplant early spring and fall now (sometimes even very late fall); even when I moved plants in the garden I noticed these are the best times to do it.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on December 02, 2020, 08:59:07 PM
Arranging and transplanting the Hepatica japonica I keep in pots, I remember about a subject I wanted to open in the spring. Now there is more time.

It is about fragrance in Hepatica flowers. I found the first H. acutiloba and H. americana with +/- fragrant flowers by getting down on the ground to take close-up pictures.
I though it was normal people never noticed fragrant flowers because how many will lay on their belly in the woodlands close to the flowers? :) And the flowering is very short some years, because it can get very warm, very fast in early May.

I was very surprised last spring though when one of the H. japonica seedlings (ex. Murasaki) flowered with a nice fragrance! It is much easier to notice it when the plants are in pots displayed at height.
So, how come there is no mention of fragrance from anyone who grows Hepatica japonica in pots? Or there may be mention in some Japanese publications that I don't have access to read?

This little cutie is the fragrant one, the only from the whole batch of flowering seedlings ex. Murasaki (all delightful though)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gunilla on December 02, 2020, 11:40:25 PM
Gabriella, I grow my H. japonica in pots in coldframes. When they start to flower early I sometimes take them inside to enjoy the flowers.
 
I have one plant, a Hepatica japonica from Gunhild Poulsen, with very nice fragrance. It is also always one of the first to flower and when I bring the pot inside in the warmth the fragrance fills the room. I have not noticed fragrance in any other hepatica but as you say, you don't get that close to the ones growing outside in the garden  :).

I found a picture comparing a first year seedling and a second year seedling and also an old picture of the fragrant H. japonica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on December 03, 2020, 07:04:26 AM
Murasaki is very cute.

 are there any european Hepatica which are also fragrant.?
 I'm still fumbling with the culture of Hepathica. those of the Pyrenees give me white flowers.
 but I still have trouble getting nice, big leaves (normally they have nice speckled leaves). maybe because of the slugs.

Are the varieties easier to grow than the type species?
 do you get volunteer sowing around? not me.
 are the seeds collected by the ants? 2 years in a row that I miss them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on December 04, 2020, 12:57:09 AM
Gabriella, I grow my H. japonica in pots in coldframes. When they start to flower early I sometimes take them inside to enjoy the flowers.
 
I have one plant, a Hepatica japonica from Gunhild Poulsen, with very nice fragrance. It is also always one of the first to flower and when I bring the pot inside in the warmth the fragrance fills the room. I have not noticed fragrance in any other hepatica but as you say, you don't get that close to the ones growing outside in the garden  :).
I found a picture comparing a first year seedling and a second year seedling and also an old picture of the fragrant H. japonica.

Thank you very much for the confirmation Gunilla - I always thought there must be other fragrant specimens! It is a very nice plant :)
We should all definitely 'stop and smell the Hepaticas' more often!

After it gets very cold here and it snows, I cannot open the cold frame anymore, until we have what's called a 'January thaw', a few warm days in late January or early February. That's when I will bring under lights few of the potted H. japonica; so in a way I force them to flower early.

Thank you for the seedlings pictures as well; here are a couple from last year when I transplanted them in early spring: H. acutiloba 1 year and a 2 year H. nobilis. The white root tips can be observed. It shows well why tall pots are best to be used, even for younger plants (unfortunately I don't have much choice on the subject).
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on December 04, 2020, 01:10:52 AM
Murasaki is very cute.

Are the varieties easier to grow than the type species?
 do you get volunteer sowing around? not me.
 are the seeds collected by the ants? 2 years in a row that I miss them.

I have to point out Véronique that I wrote ex. Murasaki for the fragrant seedling (it is not the true H. japonica Murasaki Choui). I didn't grow many H. japonica cultivars from seeds but I see that only few seedlings will come true to the mother plant. In any case, one will obtain seedlings with nice variations and can retain the best looking.

I suspect hybrids could be more vigorous than the species, but then it probably depends what species you are referring to.

Yes, the ants will carry away the seeds very fast when ripen. You should read through the Hepatica threads from a few years back, besides stunning pictures, there is a lot to learn.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Carolyn on December 04, 2020, 08:45:10 PM
Hepatica japonica Gyousei is also scented - the perfume fills the greenhouse on sunny days in early spring (can’t come soon enough....) It’s a super bright cerise pink too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Gabriela on December 05, 2020, 03:44:59 PM
Hepatica japonica Gyousei is also scented - the perfume fills the greenhouse on sunny days in early spring (can’t come soon enough....) It’s a super bright cerise pink too.

Thanks Carolyn, that's a very nice cultivar after the images I found.
I am starting to think the fragrance may be associated with the color: pink (or close by) for H. japonica, white for H. acutiloba and blue for H. americana.
But maybe others will post about other fragrant Hepaticas in different colors :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 05, 2020, 05:00:37 PM
Fragrance of Hepatica. Something to pay attention to in the next spring.
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