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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 01, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
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Shall I get October on the road ??
Crocus gilanicus
Crocus karduchorum from Bitlis (Turkey)
Crocus (pallasii) hausknechtii - LEE 446 - 1
Crocus kotschyanus ssp leucopharynx
Crocus (serotinus) salzmanii
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Crocus vallicola
Crocus nerimaniae
Crocus gilanicus
Poul
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Really nice crocusses Poul.
I have Crocus gilanicus from three different sources and they all look very similar:
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My own collection of Crocus thomasii South of Biograd na moru is the best of this species and it increases slowly over the years. I think this year is the best year I have ever had with it.
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Crocus longiflorus looks very similar and the best stock I have was bought as Crocus malyi.
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indeed it's a marvelous form :o
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While I wait for my narcissi to start, the crocus brighten up my bulb houses.
Crocus mathewii, a favourite:
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Crocus tournefortii with its magnificent style!
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Crocus asumanae
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Crocus speciosus albus
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And the spiders are using my topdressing to weight their webs!
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Crocus mathewii with the colour reaching up and outwards from the throat is gorgeous!
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That is a very nice form of Crocus mathewii Anne.
Do you ever sell surplus corms?
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That is a very nice form of Crocus mathewii Anne.
Do you ever sell surplus corms?
Or seeds?
cheers
fermi
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Following advice of Maggi in Facebook I'm trying new way for picture posting - and it works! Thank you, Maggi!
Two forms of Crocus zubovii from mountains at SE coast of Caspian sea in Iran
and Crocus xantholaimos from locus classicus
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One delayed C. vallicola flower from Artvin, I think the last this year. Crocus striatulus is published from E Turkey by HKEP, my plants collected in not far from type locality. Although features of 5 my originally collected plants are quite variable and only 2 has narrow white stripe used by authors to separate it, the number of chromosomes is the same and as with striatulus - different from other speciosus.
Next speciosus is Iranian, collected between C. archibaldiorum and C. zubovii
And again one of speciosus from Central Turkey. They are even more difficult for identification than "biflorus" crocuses
And the last is cultivar selected (I suppose from wild material somewhere in Caucasus) by Leonid Bondarenko - so intensively striped that Leonid named it 'Blue Web'.
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I like Crocus gilanicus more and more. On the first picture sample received by me from Gothenburg BG
Then 2 pictures of my own gatherings in Iran in spring 2016 and as last again gilanicus and "speciosus" from the same locality side by side, erroneously planted in the same pot.
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That is a very nice form of Crocus mathewii Anne.
Do you ever sell surplus corms?
To tell the truth, I hadn't noticed it was different! :-[
I will mark that corm, but it will be sometime before I can propagate enough to offer. Fermi, I will save the seeds!
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... I will save the seeds!
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I live in hope!
Thanks,
fermi
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Some Crocusses flowering here now:
Crocus banaticus (the deep purple and white one together come from a seedpot from the Crocus Group Seedex) and Crocus banaticus 'Novak White'.
Crocus bolensis
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Crocus boryi x tournefortii
Crocus boryi
and Crocus cartwrightianus 'Marcel'
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Crocus dispathaceus
and Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus
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Crocus goulimyi
Crocus hadriaticus subsp. parnassicus
Crocus hadriaticus var. lilacinus
and Crocus kotschyanus
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Crocus ligusticus TCH12, from a seed collection by Thomas and Chris Huber in the east of Liguria, with "huge" (to use a Trump-ism) flowers
Crocus 'Netsuke' (hybrid from Leonid Bondarenko)
Crocus pallasii 'Homeri' KJGR-001
and Crocus ilgazensis x pulchellus 'Fantasy' (hybrid from Janis Ruksans)
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Crocus pulchellus
Crocus salzmannii, large flowered clone
Crocus speciosus
Crocus vallicola
Crocus zubovii
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Crocus turcicus 05-1066
and Crocus turcicus JJA 349.961
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What an overwhelming array of colors. This is to be dreamed. Thank you for all the participants so far.
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Your garden must look pretty special at this time of year Wim.
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Your garden must look pretty special at this time of year Wim.
There's some colour here and there ;)
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Now blooms C. archibaldiorum from my first collection in 2008. It is seedling from original plants but impossible to separate from plants collected at same place this spring - one of them blooms just now.
Crocus armeniensis as always makes the largest flowers.
Very nice is Crocus assumaniae, but its white form surpasses all other autumnal whites.
Crocus mathewii only just started blooming.
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Still some speciosus - my old garden favourites Albus and Oxonian with its darkest purple flower tube and again group of Blue Web - so impressive it is.
From Europeans - Crocus ligusticus started blooming.
Although some tells that new species of "speciosus" group are inseparable between them, it is not truth and one of the most different is C. ibrahimii - from Turkey in Europe
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Crocus pulchellus here I'm presenting with sample from Chios Island in Greece, then its cultivars Albus and Zephyr. The last is hybrid with some of "speciosus" crocus and you can observe this in splitting of seedlings.
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Glorious! It must be spectacular in your crocus house, Janis!
I found this nice C. banaticus outside, I hope it will come back next year.
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Wonderful, Janis. Especially the 'Blue Web' is stunning!!
And Anne, that is a very nice pinkelicious banaticus...
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Glorious! It must be spectacular in your crocus house, Janis!
I found this nice C. banaticus outside, I hope it will come back next year.
Excellent banaticus! My white's has white stigmas, too. But regarding display - this season it is not so impressive as suppose, Anne., blooms come up slowly and chaotic. May be unusually cold summer, may be very late repotting. Usually I finish crocuses in July, this year only in last day of August. Replacing of nursery is not the easiest time... for both owner and for plants, too. Today finished repotting of Oxalis and tomorrow will start with the last genus - Tulipa. Hope to finish next week.
But some flowers here, too: Nice for of cartwrightianus - especially in buds
Another - cartwrightianus seedling
Started blooming the first niveus
And last again another mazziaricus aff. from Samos Island in Greece
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Glorious! It must be spectacular in your crocus house, Janis!
I found this nice C. banaticus outside, I hope it will come back next year.
Quite unique Anne - one to covet ! :o :o :o
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Crocus cartwrightianus, it takes days to open under the cloudy sky. I've missed other crocuses eated by slugs :-\
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Beautiful! I like the purple lines in the throat.
The joy of growing from seed - three different flowers from one pod of C. hadriaticus (probably crossed with mathewii).
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And this multi-segmented flowewr from seeds of Crocus Purple Heart.
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Nice and interesting plants, Anne and Yann. It seems that it is ugly weather everywhere.
I took some pictures at Thursday, when it was still warm but very windy. I have never had Crocus ochroleucus so early. It normally flowers in November here.
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Crocus hellenicus is now open. It waited two weeks till the temperatures dropped to come further out.
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Crocus laevigatus from Ikaria.
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Crocus armeniensis (from cormlets from the Crocus Group Seedex 2015)...seems to be some variation in the stock.
Crocus asumaniae
Crocus gilanicus
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Crocus lycius
Crocus niveus
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not bad, only 2 years to got this lovely crocuses.
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Crocus cartwrightianus is extremely variable crocus. The cv. Purple Heart is so similar to C. mathewii that only position of point where stigma splits allow to separate both.
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Here two crocuses at present regarded as Crocus pallasii sensu lato - the first 3 pictures from Turkey in Europe and last two - collected E of Bozkir in continental Turkey
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Probably because spring and summer were unusually cold and wet, this is the only autumn crocus flowering at the moment as, I think, it was bought this year. Crocus banaticus I have never had experience of growing before
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Started blooming Crocus mathewii - on first 2 pictures its variability.
Then Crocus mazziaricus aff. LST-402 from near Denizli, Turkey, where it is growing side by side with C. baytopiorum.
From Crocus longiflorus the first to bloom is stock AH-9703 from Nebrodi range, Sicily, Italia
and as last - Crocus niveus.
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stunning pictures all. Some crocusses of today after being away for to long!
Crocus wattiorum
Crocus melantherus
Crocus hyemalis
Crocus moabiticus x ?
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Crocus hadriaticus form
Crocus speciosus xantholaimos x pulchellus
Crocus niveus forms
Crocus kotschyanus HKEP 9103 - really different to other collections to me
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and 3 more
Crocus goulimyi 'Agia Sofia'
Crocus pallasii chios Island
Crocus mathewii
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To all of you: Thanks for showing these beautiful and rare crocus!
Here are some more common ones from my garden:
Crocus banaticus Snow Drift
Crocus cartwrightianus Albus
Crocus laevigatus
Crocus kotschyanus
Poul
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Crocus banaticus seedlings showing nice variations
Poul
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Crocus vallicola seedlings
Poul
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Crocus mathewii
Poul
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Crocus banaticus seedlings showing nice variations
Poul
Must be frustrating to have to struggle with these weeds Poul ! ;D ;D
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Crocus cartwrightianus is extremely variable crocus. The cv. Purple Heart is so similar to C. mathewii that only position of point where stigma splits allow to separate both.
The bottom Crocus on picture 10 is breathtaking Janis !! :o :o
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Good to have you back here Ruben and you show some nice rarities.
Also stunning pictures, Poul. Here hopefully the last rainy day but I fear my first Crocus vallicola is gone before my second is open. So no cross pollination is possible this year.
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Must be frustrating to have to struggle with these weeds Poul ! ;D ;D
Yes, it is a "big" problem, they even seed around in my lawn ;D ;D ;D
And now vallicola has started doing the same >:( ;D My garden must be too wet and cool. At least this summer, if you can call rain and cold weather summer :'( :'(
Poul
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I love the pointed petals on the C vallicola - so elegant.
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Unfortunately I have no seeding around of Crocus vallicola. Maybe one day I will have it, you never know.
But I am happy with me second plant to be in flower after the first is gone.
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My last Crocus gilanicus are darker than the others before.
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Crocus niveus from the Richea plateau.
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And first flower of Crocus cartwrightianus from Southern Evia after 7 years.
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I collected seeds of Crocus atticus and Crocus laevigatus at the same location and they have already flowered here.
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Also first flower of this Crocus asumaniae.
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very autumn crocuses, mine are still in buds, usually i'm getting them very early...usually doesn't mean always :P
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I hope today finish repotting of my collections. Not so bad - a little earlier than I supposed. Now started more abundant blooming of crocuses and I'm catching short moments of sun between almost endless rains (at today we got all average yearly amount of water, and it is the second wettest year during all records and up to end of year could be even surpassed catastrophic 1928 year). Real catastrophe for farmers.
But in greenhouse no problems - you can see main part of autumn bloomers.
Now some crocuses - nicely blooms Crocus archibaldiorum from type locality.
F-2 generation seedling from Dirk's hybrid Crocus hadriaticus x sativus var. cashmerianus more resembles C. hadriaticus.
Still are blooming Crocus mazziaricus aff. from Samos Island in Greece (KJGR-074)
and in last picture Crocus caspius from Norman Stevens.
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In this entry 3 acquisitions of Crocus kotschyanus - showing variability of base colour. HKEP are from ascent of Cebeliakra, prov. Hatay, 1150 m; next is from Tepekoy, Mersin Prov., Goktepe Dagi and the last again from prov. Hatay, 23 km before Yeladag from Antakya.
And the first flower of Crocus nerimaniae - healthy (virus-free) reproduction from wild plants.
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thanks for sharing stunning crocuses and views of your greenhouse
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Always wonderful to see your collection Janis - I cannot compete!
Five happy escapees in the garden here.
Crocus cartwrightianus - a single corm planted out several years ago. Slowly increasing.
Crocus caspius - I have two isolated stray flowering corms in a raised bed. Almost certainly there from seed or old compost as I did not plant them out!
Crocus goulimyi - nice bicolor form
Crocys goulimyi - sheltered by pulsatilla seedling. Problem - if I let the pulsatilla grow bigger it will strangle the crocus.
Crocus niveus - long time ago planted in a raised bed, now somewhat overgrown!
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A few highlights from the frame where various familiar autumn crocus are in flower. Like Janis I find it a long season with flowers appearing at different times but no great display as in other years.
Crocus creocreticus - raised from Crocus Group seed a long time ago
Crocus oreocreticus - labelled 87-07 on picture file - seedlings from the above seed sown 2007
Crocus serotinus - nice pale seedling with slight feathering
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The plant previously shown here in 2009 under Melvyn Jope's collection number http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4261.msg114305#msg114305 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4261.msg114305#msg114305) is now known as Crocus goulimyi Agia Sofia (previously(MELJ 9652))
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I was absent during the week (job or flower....grrrrr) and i missed flowers, whatever here's Crocus gilanicus and niveus.
The white powder over the Seramis is potash, no salt :D
Crocus hyemalis
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Here still rain and rain. It is October, but in greenhouse some nice flowers comes up every day.
In this entry
Crocus goulimyi of Harlequin type
Beautiful seedling of C. hadriaticus. What is pollen parent? I don't know. It came up between hadriaticus seedlings, is seem to be sterile but good increaser by corm splitting.
From rarer crocuses - C. hermoneus collected in Israel.
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Some more of today
- the first is Crocus lycius, only started blooming - the first 2 flowers
Then Crocus longiflorus sample HKEP-1626
and as last - Crocus macedonicus
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Crocus mathewii blooms not so abundantly than usual. Here two forms - one quite widely known Dream Dancer and another - excellent increaser by corm splitting, although flowers are smaller and with narrower segments, but good colour contrast.
Crocus oreocreticus only started blooming.
This C. nudiflorus was collected by my Dutch friend in SW Spain
And as the last - new species from Israel - found and shown to me by Oron.
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Very special so named "mazziaricus" from near Fethiye in Turkey
Typical and true Crocus speciosus from forest in Georgia
well separable from lowland Crocus sakariensis
and as last - one of C. tournefortii samples from Amorgos Island in Cyclades, Greece
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Two Crocus pallasii aff. from Chios Island, most likely need own name
Two pictures of C. pamphylicus and
as the last another sample of Crocus caspius.
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Two Crocus pulchellus from Chios - note the difference in flower markings and then various C. tournefortii from different Islands and with different basal markings, by the way colour markings very similar on each Island and different between Islands.
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Last entry today.
Surprisingly, but still some vallicola's are in bloom
The first robertianus opened flowers - this is from S population
Again picture of hybrid between Crocus boryi x tournefortii raised by Tony Goede
And the first flower of smallest autumnn crocuses - Crocus pumilus from Crete. The flower is less than 2 cm long.
On the last something different - labeled as Colchicum doerfleri, but not that one - see below comment & picture of Stefan (Sokol)
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Nice pictures Janis and I like Crocus hermoneus and this special Crocus hadriaticus most.
Your Colchicum is not doerfleri as this is spring flowering and the flowers come out together with the leaves.
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Nice pictures Janis and I like Crocus hermoneus and this special Crocus hadriaticus most.
Your Colchicum is not doerfleri as this is spring flowering and the flowers come out together with the leaves.
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Thank you! I didn't checked names of Colchicums in last years, as you could understand - all my attention was given to crocuses
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Hello, I had bought this year from a well-known German flower bulb dealer Crocus banaticus and Crocus ligusticus.
I wasn't quite sure about the banaticus yet, but I'm afraid that the ligusticus are infected with a virus. (or is it a cultural mistake of mine?)
Please have a look at the picture!
Are the seeds of these plants also infected with the virus or are they free of viruses?
If I remove the plants. Can I plant crocus at this place later on without any danger?
Thank you for your efforts!
salutations
Bernd
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Hello, I had bought this year from a well-known German flower bulb dealer Crocus banaticus and Crocus ligusticus.
I wasn't quite sure about the banaticus yet, but I'm afraid that the ligusticus are infected with a virus. (or is it a cultural mistake of mine?)
Please have a look at the picture!
Are the seeds of these plants also infected with the virus or are they free of viruses?
If I remove the plants. Can I plant crocus at this place later on without any danger?
Thank you for your efforts!
salutations
Bernd
It cerrtainly is infected and must be destroyed as soon as possible. Virus infected plants can set seeds but not always. This one looks heavy infected. Usually viruses are not transfered through seeds. I recovered C. nerimaniae from virus infection during 2 generations.
Planting again in same spot? Depends from virus. Many viruses are using several host plants and can alive in neighbours (in "weeds"). It seem that you planted in grass? It isn't the best habitat for reusing.
Janis
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A nice dark form of Crocus laevigatus
Poul
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Nice group, they are looking like mine from Evia.
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@ Janis .... lot of thanks !!!
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Nice group, they are looking like mine from Evia.
I do not know where they original came from. I got mine from Anne Wright.
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Hello!
So many great images and adoring crocus species. :o 8)
Below C. speciosus mix. Made a nice display yesterday. The crocuses are a new addition to a friend's garden.
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Crocus cartwrightianus (dark form)
Crocus pumilus SBL348 (received as Crocus laevigatus SBL348 (ex Crete))
and Crocus longiflorus.
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Crocus pallasii (from seed from the locus classicus, with thanks to Janis who donated these seeds to the Crocus Group seed exchange)
Crocus pulchellus
Crocus wattiorum
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And Crocus wattiorum with Crocus pumilus in the background.
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Crocus pumilus is nice but Crocus wattiorum one of the nicest ones to me.
I have got a nice Crocus cartwrightianus within some recently buyed bulbs of Crocus hadriaticus.
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Crocus mathewi Dream Dancer flowers always after the leaves came out
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Crocus pumilus from the Katharo plateau is the smallest Crocus flower I have. They seem to be much smaller than those of the nearby Afendis.
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C. speciosus mix. Made a nice display yesterday. The crocuses are a new addition to a friend's garden.
That is a fantastic display Armin - well done your friend!
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Started blooming one of nicest autumn crocuses - Crocus kofudagensis - note the position where whiter style splits in 3 red branches - it well overtops anthers what separates it from its allies - assumaniae, pallasii, mathewii.
This form of C. mathewii has smaller flowers but very well increases by splinting and has very good colour contrast.
Great surprise is blooming of C. sativus this autumn after so unusually cold summer. I never suspected its blooming this year.
Started blooming of C. melantherus, too/. This sample originally was collected as C. chrysanthus but turned mix of both species.
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In this entry only one crocus - it is very variable Crocus pallasii s.l. - all samples came from Chios Island, homeland of antique Greek poet Homerus. It most likely need own name but is so extremely variable, that it is not easy to find exact morphological characters and at present for me is not easy to get DNA checking.
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Some more pallasii sensu lato from Chios. All plants were collected in spring so no colour preferences were done. Each picture is from plants collected at different localities.
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And last two pallasii localities from Chios and another Greek pallasii grown up from seeds collected wild by Marcus Harvey, most likely on Samos
Then very unusual form of Crocus kotschyanus
and as last - Crocus zubovii from lowwest altitude where it was observed.
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That is a fantastic display Armin - well done your friend!
Thank you that you like the display.
In my freinds garden (located near forest and meadows) are much more honey bees present compared to my own garden located near conventional farmers fields with use of lots of chemicals.
Therefore we hope for rich pollination, good seed set, that the crocus corms spread and endure more then one season fully outside. :)
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Autumn tasks continue in the Bulb log - lifting leaves,planting out, while more Crocus flowers open.
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The first half of day was cloudy and with several showers, but now is nice sunshine. But regardless of this it is quite cool, but my Czech friend just called me telling that at his place is summer - +24 C. Good fort working in garden ... but all already is done. I today finished registration of pots for planting books and remained to put all this in computer - will take several days because there are planted around 9000 pots.
So some more pictures.
There are not great difference between Crocus armeniensis Cloudy Sky and Vahagni
Abundantly blooms Crocus caspius received from Norman Stevens
This autumn I carefully compared Crocus goulimyi leucanthus and all my white blooming C. goulimyi. There are no difference in size and single what I could note was shade of white - in so named leucanthus white is of "colder" shade, but in 'Mani White' and 'Alba' (from Brian Mathew) the white is of a little "warmer" tint. This confirmed that there are no reason to separate both.
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From speciosus group now are blooming Crocus hellenicus from Northern population (near Monodendri)
and so named "polyanthus" from Talish, S Azerbaijan - it so long waited for some warmth, that flowers opened far too widely
Crocus mazziaricus aff. HKEP-1449 from Attica
Crocus species nova from Denizli, Turkey (JJJ-014)
and Crocus nudiflorus from Spain not very far from border with Portugal
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Crocus ochroleucus in flower and a species I still have as Crocus aff. kotschyanus (don't know if it has received a species name already).
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Two Crocusses photographed by two Greek friends today:
Crocus mazziaricus from the surroundings of Thessaloniki
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and Crocus macedonicus from the Vertiskos Range
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I am happy that they are already flowering as I will meet my friends there in 10 days.
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Two Crocuses photographed by two Greek friends today:
Crocus mazziaricus from the surroundings of Thessaloniki
and Crocus macedonicus from the Vertiskos Range
I am happy that they are already flowering as I will meet my friends there in 10 days.
I don't think that it is true mazziaricus growing near Thessaloniki, but at present there are no better name available. Actually Greek crocuses are not less puzzling than Turkish "biflorus"and others from cancellatus and pallasii groups. The same about some others, less explored at present - cvijicii, veluchensis, "atticus" group, chrysanthus. Where is borderlines, where is natural variation and where starts new species? That is the question. I'm not cytologist but I know that each individual has own DNA footprint. I think that same is in the plant world, but what is the level when we can start to think about new species?
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Yesterday started blooming Crocus wattiorum. This species seriously suffered last winter and formed very small corms. Actually from 5 pots only one survived without losses and root damage, but I didn't expected any bloom this autumn, so it is nice surprise.
Very nice flowers formed C. tournefortii from Skyros Island.
C. sakariensis are at top of blooming, it is easy separable from xantholaimos - both has deep yellow throat but stigmatic branches in sakariensis well overtop anthers whilst in xantholaimos they end below tips of anthers.
From C. robertianus started blooming pure white form, almost equal to spring 'Bowles' White', only flower segments are slender.
Slowly opens C. melantherus - here closed buds giving some impression about variability - all collected on small spot in spring 2016.
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Now C. oreocreticus is in full bloom. Those are seedlings from seeds wild collected by Marcus Harvey near Cave of Zeus on Crete.
Then nice form of Crocus cartwrightianus RN-2096 and
as last this morning - part of autumn crocus collection pictured yesterday at short moment with sun and picture in our yard coloured by autumn (picture made by my wife Guna during the same sunshine blick)
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Crocus ochroleucus in flower and a species I still have as Crocus aff. kotschyanus (don't know if it has received a species name already).
No, it is not yet named (Crocus aff. kotschyanus) but very special and good species. I just made herbarium of it.
C. ochroleucus with me still didn't start blooming.
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Hello everyone,
I do not know what it is like a crocus, it looks like crocus goulimyi but does not have leaves. Collected a few years ago on the Peloponnese.
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No, it is not yet named (Crocus aff. kotschyanus) but very special and good species. I just made herbarium of it.
Thanks for the info, Janis...it is a good species indeed. Does very well in the open garden over here.
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Some more Crocusses in flower...
The first flower on Crocus laevigatus SL165.
And a last pic of this year of Crocus wattiorum. With a bit of a "webbed" flower ;) .
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Great Crocus collection Wim
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Two in flower here with our unseasonable warms temperatures.
Crocus speciosus
Carocus cartwrightianus
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Hello everyone,
I do not know what it is like a crocus, it looks like crocus goulimyi but does not have leaves. Collected a few years ago on the Peloponnese.
Single alternative could be blue form of niveus, although then stigma must be more divided. Of course you could identify by corms. No one other crocus has so polished corm tunics as goulimyi, very different from finely reticulated tunics of niveus. Branching of stigma can vary and is something unclear on your pictures. Just where in Pellopones you collected it?
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It is a strange season. Crocus vallicola is still flowering, months later than usual.
The late spring flowering Crocus minimus has leaves, C. tauricus is almost in bud and C. cvijicii is above ground.
But these behave normal:
Crocus ochroleucus
Crocus robertianus
Crocus wattiorum
Poul
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It is a strange season. Crocus vallicola is still flowering, months later than usual.
The late spring flowering Crocus minimus has leaves, C. tauricus is almost in bud and C. cvijicii is above ground.
But these behave normal:
Crocus ochroleucus
Crocus robertianus
Crocus wattiorum
Poul
The same with me - vallicola 2 stocks still in full flower. From spring bloomers only suaveolens at this moment showed leaf tips. Others still are underground. Very surprised about your tauricus. Never saw it in autumn. C. minimus here is bertween the latest spring bloomers (wild forms) - it bloomed with me even in mid-May.
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Single alternative could be blue form of niveus, although then stigma must be more divided. Of course you could identify by corms. No one other crocus has so polished corm tunics as goulimyi, very different from finely reticulated tunics of niveus. Branching of stigma can vary and is something unclear on your pictures. Just where in Pellopones you collected it?
It was collected in southern Mani, on the same place was Crocus niveus. Previous photo was taken by mobile, now it should by better.
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A few crocuses from the garden
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The same with me - vallicola 2 stocks still in full flower. From spring bloomers only suaveolens at this moment showed leaf tips. Others still are underground. Very surprised about your tauricus. Never saw it in autumn. C. minimus here is bertween the latest spring bloomers (wild forms) - it bloomed with me even in mid-May.
These C. minimus from Dirk flowered in April this spring, so I am very surprised too. C. tauricus (which I got from Augi last year) flowered in February this spring. My suaveolens has also leaves now, but that is not unusual, as they sometimes flower before X-mas.
Poul
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Beautiful Crocus flowers from all! an inspiration to grow more from seeds.
Meanwhile, in September I bought few packets with the label - C. zonatus pink (which I google and saw the name is kotschyanus) but now they flower and look like C. ochroleucus if I'm not wrong? I have C. ochroleucus from previous year but not flowering yet. They are terrible with names here (Dutch stock); C. speciosus is still sold as C. sativus....
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It was collected in southern Mani, on the same place was Crocus niveus. Previous photo was taken by mobile, now it should by better.
99.99% - Crocus niveus.
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These C. minimus from Dirk flowered in April this spring, so I am very surprised too. C. tauricus (which I got from Augi last year) flowered in February this spring. My suaveolens has also leaves now, but that is not unusual, as they sometimes flower before X-mas.
Poul
With me earliest is C. hittiticus, quite often blooming starts even at Christmas, but mostly in January and with frosts it is covered in full blooms.
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Beautiful Crocus flowers from all! an inspiration to grow more from seeds.
Meanwhile, in September I bought few packets with the label - C. zonatus pink (which I google and saw the name is kotschyanus) but now they flower and look like C. ochroleucus if I'm not wrong? I have C. ochroleucus from previous year but not flowering yet. They are terrible with names here (Dutch stock); C. speciosus is still sold as C. sativus....
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Looks like C. ochroleucus
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99.99% - Crocus niveus.
Why not Crocus goulimyi? The style overtops the anthers just a bit and is not much divided. Maybe a bit too much?
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Why not Crocus goulimyi? The style overtops the anthers just a bit and is not much divided. Maybe a bit too much?
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Leaves! In goulimyi always they are developed at blooming time (I never saw goulimyi in flowers without leaves), but exact identification will be done after checking corm tunics.
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Crocus tournefortii VISA 08-50
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Looks like C. ochroleucus
Thank you Janis. Although I'm not a Crocus collector I like to know what grows in the garden.
Today I found another group flowering (from the same packets of 'Crocus zonatus - pink') and they look different. Maybe this is kotschyanus? Pictures not very good, they are not white, with a tinge of lilac.
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Leaves! In goulimyi always they are developed at blooming time (I never saw goulimyi in flowers without leaves), but exact identification will be done after checking corm tunics.
Thank you Janis. You know where to look at and we all can learn nearly every day from you.
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Crocus mathewii, It must be a very easy species to grow, because this clump blooms every year without any special care
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Crocus mathewii, It must be a very easy species to grow, because this clump blooms every year without any special care
It certainly likes you Raffa, it is a bit more of a challenge in cold Scotland.
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Crocus mathewii, It must be a very easy species to grow, because this clump blooms every year without any special care
Excellent! I don't think that it is very easy, but you live in Spain... I'm sawing it every year and so stock increases, but I quite often some are lost too.
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Crocus melantherus and Crocus wattiorum.
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Two weeks ago I went to the farm where I buy hay for my ponies. It is at the end of the road past the cemetery which was the main road before the bypass was made. In spring there is a mass planting of narcissus (probably 'Tete-aTete' but in autumn there is Crocus speciosus albus which surprised me the first time I saw it.
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Crocus moabiticus -a recent acquisition which is growing well. (Perhaps too well for it to be the real deal?).
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Crocus moabiticus -a recent acquisition which is growing well. (Perhaps too well for it to be the real deal?).
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With me it grows quite well, too. Not always blooms, sometimes flowers develop far too late and didn't open, but I didn't lost it even in bad seasons.
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Crocus pulchellus, mount Athos, Greece
Crocus hadriaticus
Crocus cartwrightianus and a special guest ;D
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Crocus pulchellus, mount Athos, Greece
Crocus hadriaticus
Crocus cartwrightianus and a special guest ;D
Very good pictures!
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Crocusflowers in autumn
In 10.10.17 started the autumnflowers of crocus here. The Crocus speciosus flowers are eyescatcher in this amounts and grow here nearly 30 years. In the same area also grow springflowering Crocus chrysanthus, so that the first mowing starts after 10. may next year!
The leaves of Crocus kotschyanus and Crocus speciosus grows in spring, but Crocus sativus leaves are long already in autumn.
Thats why Crocus sativus needs warm places in the garden.
Crocus kotschyanus developes so many small bulbs, that they after some years only have leaves like gras without flowers.
But after planting in new places they flowers again.
Fotos:
1. - Crocus sativus after heavy rain
2. - Crocus kotschyanus
3. - Crocus speciosus (Artabir?)
4. - Crocus speciosus in the garden
5. - Crocus speciosus with the red "Wellcome Door"