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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: mark smyth on March 30, 2008, 12:01:31 AM
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I would really like to get a name for this buttercup. It came from Matt Bishop in 2007. He may have told me the name but I cant remember. At 5cm tall it's small enough for a trough or pot culture. Maybe I'll lift it for next weekend's Dublin Group show
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I thought it was one of your fancy ficaria forms until I noticed the leaves.
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Is this the same plant you showed us last year on April 6th Mark?
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Possibly. Last year the flower was different.
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Possibly. Last year the flower was different.
I noticed, therefore difficult to ID.
Ranunculus repens Pleniflora.
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Luit R. repens is the creeping buttercup. This plant has no runners
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Could it be the same one that I grow as Ranunculus montanus fl pl? (http://magnar.aspaker.no/Ranunculus%20montanus%20ssp%20flore%20pleno.jpg)
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Yes it could be. It's the closest I have seen
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Mark it would be much easier if you take a picture of the whole plant,
when you ask for some ID.
Only a flower is too little.
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Luit that is all 5cm of the plant in the top photo
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Here is a photo showing more
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I'll slot in a different buttercup for the Ranunculus fans. This leaf belongs to R. acris 'Hedgehog'. I would like a collection of buttercups but not the creeping/runnings species
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If you hadn't told me different, Mark, I'd have thought that hedgehog leaf to be a geranium! :-[
As to those little yellow european jobs..... and the ficaria types.... I expect I shouldn't really say that they are as fascinating to me as the yellow drabas.... only more bother in the lawn! :P
When I see them in the wild, though , I can appreciate that for the natural spectacle it is... as in Gerd's pix from his walk by the river Wupper today...... http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1469.msg39169#new
but aren't the Anemones the REALLY stunning ranuncs???
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wellllll, yes on the drab Drabs. Are you into Geraniums? I'll be dumping some phaeum seedlings that will look good under your trees?
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Thanks but no thanks, Mark! I've got that little one you gave me.... (somebody's name ... female?) in a trough. And we have some of the dinky NZ ranunc in a trough too....different kettle of fish altogether :P
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I'll slot in a different buttercup for the Ranunculus fans. This leaf belongs to R. acris 'Hedgehog'. I would like a collection of buttercups but not the creeping/runnings species
Hi Mark,
How about Ranunculus languinosus for your collection ? A Buttercup for shade with leaves beautifully patterned in spring....
No runners but it will self-seed if not cut down after flower. Still i like it a lot....
Best regards from Munich !
Michael
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If it's well behaved I'll say yes to a piece, thanks.
Anyone know where I can get R. delavayi?
A Ranunculus caused a stir yesterday at one of the sales tables at the Dublin AGS show. All the plants people bought it. I'll take a photo later. It comes in to leaf in late winter, flowers in May and dies down. It has tubers. The leaves are covered in silver hairs. Anyone know what it is?
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A Ranunculus caused a stir yesterday at one of the sales tables at the Dublin AGS show.
Any pictures from the Dublin Show, Mark? How did you get on, any red stickers??
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Diane the hall they use is alawys poor for light. I'll show some but I'm not happy with the quality. I got 6 reds including one for a plant put in againt the big boys. The Farrer went to an 11 year old Sax
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Diane the hall they use is alawys poor for light. I'll show some but I'm not happy with the quality. I got 6 reds including one for a plant put in againt the big boys. The Farrer went to an 11 year old Sax
Well done for the firsts, we look forward to seeing the pictures, poor light or not!
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Here's the Ranunculus
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Could perhaps be Anemone fulgens in which case the flowers will be red. It looks to me more like a tuberous anemone than a ranunculus but maybe not. Was there no plant with a label?
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The label, and talking to the seller, says yellow flowers in April/May, dies down after flower, leaves come up in winter, stands c15cm, tubers like R.ficaria. I took mine out of the pot today. No sign of tubers but quite thick roots
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This came from the nursery manager this morning re the Ranunculus
"I'm sorry, I have no photographs or anything else of the Ranunculus. I even don't know the origin, where the plant came from. When we moved the nursery 2 years ago, I found a pot with something in it (not really a bulb, something between Ranunculus ficaria and Anemonella, or some small Thalictrum), that I potted on and to my surprise this very beautiful Ranunculus emerged in spring. I'm sure, it will flower in a few weeks. Last year I had only very few plants, but the most of them flowered. I wish you good luck in growing the Ranunculus and specially in finding out it's name. Please let me know, when you found a name for this fellow."
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Mark
Your Ranunculus sps looks like a Potentilla sps to me.
P. hypartica maybe ???.Not sure.
Cheers Dave.
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I said Potentilla to the nursery guy on Saturday but he said no
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Rightio Mark
Would you please pick a leaf and give us a look at its reverse side.Ta.
Cheers Dave.
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Here's a link to a flower of P. hypartica http://www.flickr.com/photos/nsingh/501490332/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nsingh/501490332/)
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As requested a few more photos of the 'Ranunculus'
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Out on a limb here.... could it be a Pulsatilla of some sort? The leaves remind me of that, although I have limited experience of how widely variable the leaves of this genus are as they are very rare here. Only going from pictures I have seen, it reminds me of them? There's probably all sorts of diagnostic features that if I had more expertise would stand out like the proverbial sore thumb to indicate it isn't. ::)
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Definitely not a potentilla. They always have those little extra leafy bits in pairs below the main leaf lobes. Not to be mistaken for anything else. Not a pulsatilla either. Those roots would have me worried. They look as if, when released from the pot, they could colonize at a great rate.
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Lesley,
I hadn't clicked that those were runners, not just big healthy white roots. :o OK, never heard of a Pulsatilla that did that. Had just assumed that the plant was healthy, not that it was intending to colonise Mark and everyone else nearby's gardens!! ;D
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A Ranunculus caused a stir yesterday at one of the sales tables at the Dublin AGS show. All the plants people bought it. I'll take a photo later. It comes in to leaf in late winter, flowers in May and dies down. It has tubers. The leaves are covered in silver hairs. Anyone know what it is?
Mark, you (and the others in Eire) have acquired a beautyful weed, this Ranunculus has beautyful flowers and will die off in summer.
We used to grow it by the hundreds for many years and it was a good seller.
(I believe the Irish nurseries got it from a friend of mine in Austria, who mailed me
with the same question and told the Irish people don't know it :o ::) ???)
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Thanks for the info. Can you find out please what Ranunculus it is?
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Mark,
This is what I grow as Ranunculus bulbosus flora plena ....
Not unsimilar I think ? ???
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Now you HAVE got me interested Luit.....a 'weedy' Ranunculus with beautiful flowers...?
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I see! I went out just now and measured the fully formed flower. It's 2.5 x .5cm
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I see! I went out just now and measured the fully formed flower. It's 2.5 x .5cm
Mark would you show a picture of this flower.
I remember there was a picture once in the Curtis Botanical Magazine and I might have made a dia
of the plant in flower, but finding this would take many days I'm afraid.
I'm pretty sure what it is, but that would help my senior brains a lot. :D :D ;D
Now you HAVE got me interested Luit.....a 'weedy' Ranunculus with beautiful flowers...?
??? ??? Is it possible, Mr. Ranunculus does not know this plant?
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Now you HAVE got me interested Luit.....a 'weedy' Ranunculus with beautiful flowers...?
Cliff,
What about Rununculus acris flore-plena? As far as I know it can be a bit weedy, and it has perfect 1 inch wide full double "button" flowers. Absolutely perfect. The flowers are on relatively tall stems, making them easier to see as well. I just love it, but I keep it in a pot to be safe. 8)
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FOLKS, I THINK YOU ARE GETTING CONFUSED HERE.... THERE ARE two PLANTS UNDER DISCUSSION.... ONE THE LITTLE YELLOW DOUBLE JOB THAT MARK FIRST QUERIED AND , MORE RECENTLY, THE UNFLOWERED PLANT FROM THE DUBLIN SHOW SALES TABLE!!
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I knew people were getting confused
Luc my wee plant is tiny at 5cm high with the flower width being half it's height. Still no sign of extra growth. This is it just now
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I see! I went out just now and measured the fully formed flower. It's 2.5 x .5cm
I thought you had a flower from the Dublin plant ???
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No but it has a bud between the leaves. Maybe it will open for next weekend
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I knew people were getting confused
Luc my wee plant is tiny at 5cm high with the flower width being half it's height. Still no sign of extra growth. This is it just now
My R. bulbosus flora plena is about 10-15 cm high in flower.
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No but it has a bud between the leaves. Maybe it will open for next weekend
Mark, Now I know the name.
By coincidence when reading an article about bamboo, some bells were ringing.
Your plant is:
RANUNCULUS PSILOSTACHYS.
Sorry it took so long.
Must try to strengthen my Senior brains more. ::) :-\ :-[ ;D :D
PS How wonderful is this Spell Check!
I really had some difficulties with one word. It works GREAT. :D :D :D
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Thanks. I searched on Google and found this image but it doesnt look correct
http://www.s-weeds.net/familjer/ranunculales/ranunculaceae/ranpsilo.html (http://www.s-weeds.net/familjer/ranunculales/ranunculaceae/ranpsilo.html)
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Try this, Mark: http://linnaeus.nrm.se/flora/di/ranuncula/ranun/ranupsi.html
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Thanks. The leaf looks just right
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Here's the last photo I'll show of the small double buttercup. I'm sure everyone is getting bored by now
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Mark and Maggi,
if you would have googled earlier under Weed Buttercups,
I would have sleeped better last night. ??? :( ;D
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Mark and Maggi,
if you would have googled earlier under Weed Buttercups,
I would have sleeped better last night
Sorry, Luit, I never thought to do that until you gave the name and Mark made his link! :-[
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This evening I heard from the supplier of the silver haired buttercup
"Ranunculus psilostachys. My former Boss, Christian Kress,
Sarastro-Stauden in Austria, who has a good nursery and is
also good in alpines, gave me this name. I think thats
possible, when I looked at a picture in the web. But its
much nicer than the pictures I found. In the web it looks
like a weed (I still believe it is not!).
greeting from Dublin"
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This evening I heard from the supplier of the silver haired buttercup
"Ranunculus psilostachys. My former Boss, Christian Kress,
Sarastro-Stauden in Austria, who has a good nursery and is
also good in alpines, gave me this name. I think thats
possible, when I looked at a picture in the web. But its
much nicer than the pictures I found. In the web it looks
like a weed (I still believe it is not!).
greeting from Dublin"
Mark I told my friend Christian , wo has worked in my nursery with alpines during one year, about the same Ranunculus, because he asked me for the name too. Michael Münch asked him for the name and Christian remembered having seen it with me long ago and therefore asked me.
Here is a part of Christian's posting:
Verkauft wurden sie dort in Irland von meinem Freund Michael Münch, der bei mir 3 Jahre lang arbeitete und jetzt noch dieses Jahr bei der Mt.Venus-Nurserie bei Dublin ist.
Translation:
Sold were the plants in Ireland by my friend Michael Münch, who worked for three years in my nursery and now this year is still working for Mt. Venus-Nurseries near Dublin.
ISN'T THIS FORUM WONDERFUL?
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Yes and it is a very small plant world
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Tonight I repotted my Ranunculus psilostachys because it's in pure peat. The warning has to be WEED so keep it confined to a pot. Every root has produced bulbils at the tip
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Here's the last photo I'll show of the small double buttercup. I'm sure everyone is getting bored by now
Mark, here some pictures of the questioned first Ranunculus again.
I think we have both the same plant, only mine is 5 years old
and until now is no creeper at all.
What do you think?
Ranunculus det.
Ranunculus det 2
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looks like it could be it.
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A month after buying Ranunculus ?psilostachys it finally showed a flower today. Hardy any leaves left now. And what a pain in the neck to photograph. None of my two cameras lked it. Only one was in forcus
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One plant I was sure it would be Ranunculus asiaticus turned out to be something else, now I think I knew it once but forgot it... :-[
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Is it as small as it looks?
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About 15cm in high.
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One plant I was sure it would be Ranunculus asiaticus turned out to be something else, now I think I knew it once but forgot it... :-[
Hans,
Can you still check if the sepals are reflexed?
[it might be R. sardous]