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Title: Primula Wharfedale Bluebell
Post by: Pennine Wanderer on March 21, 2017, 10:29:41 AM
Can anyone please tell me the parentage of Primula Wharfedale Bluebell.  I obtained seed from the seed exchange in 2015/16 and germinated three good plants. Two have so far not flowered but the third appears to be an auricula.  I am interested to try and put a name to it.
Title: Re: Primula Wharfedale Bluebell
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
I don't think it is usual to get  "true"  replicas from hybrid seed.  Certainly,  'Wharfedale Bluebell'  which is shown in this photo : http://www.auriculaandprimula.org.uk/galleries/primulas/european_hybrids/primula_x_wharfedale_bluebell.html (http://www.auriculaandprimula.org.uk/galleries/primulas/european_hybrids/primula_x_wharfedale_bluebell.html)  is a lovely blue!
Looks to be an auricula x marginata hybrid I suppose -  David Nicholson may be able to help.
Title: Re: Primula Wharfedale Bluebell
Post by: Graeme on March 21, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
Wharfedale series of plants were bred by Alec Stubbs of Grassington

The only way you will get true Bluebell is via an offset - you will know when you have the real thing as it has a silver/white edge line to the flower - the leaf is also quite distinct as well

I have never had a big population of it as it tends with me to rot off - I am probably down to two plants at the moment - a lot of what you see labeled as bluebell are not - one of mine came from Mary Robinson a long long time ago - I did get another at Chesterfield AGS members stand last year - leaf is right - just need to look at the flower this year - but initial thoughts it is the right plant

As for seed - depends what it has been housed with - to be honest you will get anything

My favorites of the series are Wharfedale Milkmaid and Wharfedale Village - I tend to keep Village inside as it has beautiful farina on the leaves
Title: Re: Primula Wharfedale Bluebell
Post by: Pennine Wanderer on March 21, 2017, 05:37:35 PM
Thanks Graeme and Maggi for your replies. I just wondered if the one I have shown may be one of the parents.  I also have Village in the greenhouse to protect the farina.
Title: Re: Primula Wharfedale Bluebell
Post by: David Nicholson on March 21, 2017, 06:56:59 PM
Yes Graeme's right Primula x 'Wharfedale Bluebell' was bred by  Alec Stubbs of the lovely Grassington, in Wharfedale, in the bonny Yorkshire Dales. In his time he bred a whole series of Primula hybrids but I've never seen any breeding details for any of them.

You might be mixed up with your Milkmaid though Graeme, I've never seen one from the Wharfedale Series, were you thinking of Joe Elliott's 'Broadwell Milkmaid'?

I think you're right too Maggi, it does look to have a lot of P. marginata in it. P. 'Wharfedale Bluebell' is one of the parents of P. 'Kusan Krishna' bred by Graeme Butler of Rumbling Bridge Nursery, the other parent was P. 'Linda Pope', itself a marginata hybrid.

Title: Re: Primula Wharfedale Bluebell
Post by: Graeme on March 21, 2017, 11:31:55 PM
You might be mixed up with your Milkmaid though Graeme, I've never seen one from the Wharfedale Series, were you thinking of Joe Elliott's 'Broadwell Milkmaid'?

I think you're right too Maggi, it does look to have a lot of P. marginata in it. P. 'Wharfedale Bluebell' is one of the parents of P. 'Kusan Krishna' bred by Graeme Butler of Rumbling Bridge Nursery, the other parent was P. 'Linda Pope', itself a marginata hybrid.
sorry that is me in a hurry this afternoon

The Wharfedale series of plants are a bit a mixed bag from what I can see

Bluebell looks like a lot of marginata in it as it can be quite a substantial plant - some of the others are quite dainty along side it
 
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