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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: mooniaga on February 13, 2017, 05:02:46 PM

Title: ID Narcissus
Post by: mooniaga on February 13, 2017, 05:02:46 PM
Hello,
Can you please help me to identify the specie of this Narcissus ?
Thank you
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: mooniaga on February 13, 2017, 05:22:26 PM
Maybe N. tazzeta ?
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: Karaba on February 13, 2017, 05:36:27 PM
Look like an hybrid like N. x medioluteus (tazetta x poeticus). Where does the picture come from ? a garden or in the wild ?

Non, ce n'est pas tazetta mais un hybride, cela ressemble à N. x medioluteus (= biflorus) hybride entre tazetta et poeticus. D'où cela vient ? d'un jardin ou en nature ?
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: mooniaga on February 13, 2017, 06:42:05 PM
It comes from my grand mother's garden. But maybe at the time, botanic species were sold ?
This Narcissus has been found around Marseille (13).
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: Karaba on February 13, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
N. x medioluteus is a natural hybrid that were found around Montpellier and maybe in the north of the Crau plain. It is now found scarcelly in southern France, specially in south-west, usually escaped from gardens : http://siflore.fcbn.fr/?cd_ref=109338&r=metro (http://siflore.fcbn.fr/?cd_ref=109338&r=metro) .
It has been cultivated for a long time and was widely distributed in old garden.
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: mooniaga on February 13, 2017, 10:03:33 PM
N. x medioluteus has been described with 2 (1 or 3 rarely) flowers. However, mine have about 5 flowers.
Moreover, N. x medioluteus's petals are larger than my Narcissus.
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: Karaba on February 13, 2017, 10:27:22 PM
I didn't understand that it was a single stem (maybe because i had medioluteus in mind). Have a look to Narcissus tazetta 'italicus' which is considered as an hybrid between tazetta and papyraceus : http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/NarcissusHybrids (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/NarcissusHybrids)
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: mooniaga on February 14, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
Indeed, you found it !
It's a pity that it's not a botanic specie because I only collect them.

Thank you very much and have a good day.
Title: Re: ID Narcissus
Post by: Karaba on February 14, 2017, 12:32:28 PM
Well, at least, it's a natural hybrid found in Italy. It has been named as N. tazetta ssp italicus, and even Narcissus italicus but now, it is recognized as an hybrid more or less stabilized (I don't know it very well).
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