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Title: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on January 20, 2017, 03:55:00 PM
My first and very small plants of allionii of the season:-

Primula allionii 'Kate Evans'
P. a. 'Jackie Richards'
P. a. 'David Philbey'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Julia on January 30, 2017, 12:04:13 PM
Primula whiteii just starting to show some colour.
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Post by: David Nicholson on January 30, 2017, 12:44:01 PM
Ah, I wish................. ;D
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Post by: Yann on February 04, 2017, 07:40:48 PM
x Jackie Richards has pretty pastel colors
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Post by: David Nicholson on February 04, 2017, 08:16:45 PM
Agreed ;D
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Post by: David Nicholson on February 16, 2017, 02:25:22 PM
Primula 'Lindum Eros' a little on the scruffy side.
P. allionii 'V W Rollinson'
P allionii a seedling from Wharfedale Superb from Gerd Stopp
P. 'Lindum Prima'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Matt T on February 16, 2017, 02:33:05 PM
Lovely Primula, David. Most of mine are outside, so a little way behind, but I have a couple of P. allionii under cover. A small plant of Anna Griffith is in flower now.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on February 16, 2017, 03:41:08 PM
Thanks Matt, I expected to have a bit of a struggle with the Prims this year after all last Summers problems. Nice Anna Griffith.
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Post by: Leena on February 20, 2017, 12:55:48 PM
Couple of Barnhaven Primula polyanthus from last May.
These have been hardy here (so far) while all Barnhaven Victorian polyanthus died the previous winter, which was very bad with very cold and hardly any snow in January.
'Daybreak'
'Paris 90', different colours from seeds, I love most the darkest blue. In the second picture the Corydalis on the left is C.panda, also survived that bad winter.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on February 20, 2017, 04:47:05 PM
Good plants from Barnhaven.

A few more from the greenhouse:-

Primula allionii 'Austen'
P. a. 'Judy Burrow'
P. a. 'Chivalry'
P. a. DPP 454-01

Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on February 20, 2017, 04:48:23 PM
Just a couple more:-

Primula 'Jackie Richards'
P. 'Mylene'
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Post by: Philip Walker on February 22, 2017, 01:12:35 PM
P. 'Stradbrook Flounce'
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Post by: David Nicholson on February 22, 2017, 01:56:06 PM
Nice one Philip
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Post by: suesimpson33 on February 24, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
A few from the alpine house today

Primula allionii 'Edrom'
'Henry Burrow'
'Lismore Treasure'
Brian Burrow seedling
'Cissie'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: suesimpson33 on February 24, 2017, 03:39:26 PM
And a few more
Primula allionii seedling
'Anna Griffiths'
'Lepus'
'Cathy'
Brian Burrow seedling
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Graeme on February 25, 2017, 11:51:16 AM
'Lepus'
great display of plants Sue

Where did 'Lepus' come from as that is a really nice form and colour?
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Post by: suesimpson33 on February 26, 2017, 09:12:20 AM
Hi Graeme
Lepus came from Aberconwy. I do love the allionii primulas but struggle to grow them unfortunately - even in well ventilated alpine house as soon as they get to a decent size a little bit of rot sets in. Just have to enjoy them as small plants!
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Post by: Graeme on February 26, 2017, 11:39:03 AM
Hi Graeme
Lepus came from Aberconwy. I do love the allionii primulas but struggle to grow them unfortunately - even in well ventilated alpine house as soon as they get to a decent size a little bit of rot sets in. Just have to enjoy them as small plants!
Thanks Sue - I will hopefully be able to get one at Loughborough in a couple of weeks time

It can be very frustrating when you get a decent sized plant and you then loose half of it - however this time of year it is great to see the small ones flower
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Leena on March 09, 2017, 08:01:46 AM
This picture is from last June, Primula sieboldii 'Manakoora' seed  from Barnhaven. Most of the plants were white but this pale blue is really pretty and my favourite of them all.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on March 09, 2017, 08:17:20 PM
Catching up with a few from the greenhouse:-

Primula allionii 'Neon'
P. a. 'Marjorie Wooster'
P. a. 'Lindisfarne'
P. a. 'Eureka'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on March 09, 2017, 08:28:27 PM
Some Primula hybrids:-

Primula 'Joan Hughes'  an auricula x Linda Pope cross
P. 'Stradbrook Charm' a marginata hybrid
P. 'Lindum Heavenly'
P. 'Clarence Elliott'  an auricula x allionii cross
P. 'Wharfedale Superb'
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Post by: David Nicholson on March 09, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
... and to end.

Primula 'Maria Talbot'
P. 'Lindum Wedgewood'
There is a tale about the last one. It was given to me by David Hatchett and his wife Julie. David is well into his 80's now but still hale and hearty. One of his posts, prior to his retirement,  was as Head Gardener at Cornwell Manor in the Cotswolds and indeed David wrote a book called Country House Garden, about a year in his work in the garden there (published by David and Charles 1983) and it's a very good read and you can pick it up very cheaply. During this time his wife, Julie,  worked as a propagator for the famous Joe Elliott at the equally famous Broadwell Nursery. The plant was a self-sown seedling in one of Joe Elliott's plunges. So, for me, it has the label 'Primula JE ss sdlng.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on March 10, 2017, 12:38:30 PM
Two more I forgot yesterday.

Primula 'Lindum Malcolm's Mate'
P. 'Janet' a marginata hybrid
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Philip Walker on March 10, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
P. allionii 'Elliots Form'
P. 'Wharfedale Ling'-I think
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Philip Walker on March 11, 2017, 02:03:25 PM
P.allionii 'Mrs Dyers'
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Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2017, 02:48:28 PM
great display of plants Sue

Where did 'Lepus' come from as that is a really nice form and colour?

Parentage of 'Lepus' is  P. allionii 'Crowsley' x 'Joan Hughes'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Gerdk on March 13, 2017, 04:09:39 PM
This is a white selection of
Primula sibthorpii - originally from NE Turkey

Gerd
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Post by: Philip Walker on March 14, 2017, 07:41:43 PM
P. marginata 'Caerulea'
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Post by: David Nicholson on March 16, 2017, 06:57:10 PM

P. 'Wharfedale Ling'-I think

Looks like it to me Philip.

This weeks Primulas:-

P. 'Lismore 79-26'
P.allionii 'Sapphire
P. 'Janet Aldritch'
P. 'Lilac Lover'
P. pubescens 'Henry Hall'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on March 16, 2017, 07:01:05 PM
... and some more:-

Primula allionii 'Gilderdale Glow'
P. marginata 'El Bolton Form'
P. 'Lindum Whisper'
a P. a. seedling from Gerd Stopp under his raising number 10/08
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Philip Walker on March 18, 2017, 10:40:28 AM
P.'Allen Queen'
P.'Clarence Elliot'
P.'Lindum Celebration'
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Post by: Maggi Young on March 18, 2017, 11:50:18 AM
P.'Allen Queen'

Could those flowers be any bigger?  Super!
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Philip Walker on March 18, 2017, 01:03:52 PM
Only 2 though
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Post by: Maggi Young on March 18, 2017, 01:14:18 PM
Only 2 though
Cor! You are fussy!  ;)  Give it a chance , it's only a wee plant!
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: ruweiss on March 21, 2017, 09:54:53 PM
 Primulas in the Alpine House:
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Post by: ruweiss on March 21, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
More pictures:
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Post by: David Nicholson on March 22, 2017, 09:18:08 AM
Lovely selection of Primulas Rudi.

Maggi, if you have time would you move Rudi''s pictures into the main Primula thread please.

 edit by maggi - That's done, David.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on March 22, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
Lovely selection of Primulas Rudi.

Maggi, if you have time would you move Rudi''s pictures into the main Primula thread please.

 edit by maggi - That's done, David.

Cheers Maggi.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on March 24, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
Primula marginata 'Sheila Denby'
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Post by: ruweiss on March 24, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
David, thank you for your friendly comment, I am sorry for putting my pictures to
the wrong thread.
Thanks to Maggi for helping.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on March 24, 2017, 09:48:04 PM
No need to apologise, Rudi - it is an easy mistake to make! It is just a pleasure to see your plants.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Philip Walker on March 27, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
 P. 'Broadwell Milkmaid'
P. 'Beatrice Wooster'
P. marginata 'Freedom'
P. x pubescens 'Deep Mrs Wilson'
Primula seedling
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: hadacekf on March 27, 2017, 06:11:45 PM
My oldest an best primrose. I got it from Jack Drake in 1975

Primula Joan Hughes
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Post by: K-D Keller on March 27, 2017, 09:08:00 PM
Primula alliomii „Maria Talbot“
Primula allionii „Wharfedale Ling“
Primula hirsuta ssp. valcuvianensis
Primula marginata „Napoleon“.   It is a selection with big denticulated leaves.
Primula hirsuta alba
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: K-D Keller on March 27, 2017, 09:09:22 PM
Two plants of Primula albenensis are in flower. Really nice white floured leaves and flowers.
Primula x loiseleurii „Lismore Yellow“
Primula warshenewskiana
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Matt T on March 30, 2017, 04:54:31 PM
Primula 'Johanna' in an outside trough
Oxlip, Primula elatior and a red form of cowslip, Primula veris - both from SRGC seed ex 2015/16.
Seedling Primula flowering from the first time, from home-collected seed ex x pubescens 'Christine'. I have several seedlings, so likely to see some variation in them.
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Post by: WimB on March 30, 2017, 07:11:38 PM
Primula auricula 'Lintz'
Primula 'Lady Greer'
Primula marginata 'Nana'
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Post by: Karaba on March 30, 2017, 07:53:33 PM
In the garden :
Primula marginata
Primula hirsuta
Primula frondosa

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Post by: David Nicholson on April 03, 2017, 04:37:12 PM
Not many left to flower:-

Primula allionii 'Aire Mist'
P. 'Moonbeam' raised by Margaret Earle under her breeding number HME 469-87
P. 'Tony' another of Margaret Earle's under HME 473-86
P. 'Lismore Jewel'
P. 'Peardrop'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on April 05, 2017, 01:01:31 PM
A little reminder about Pam Eveleigh's  super  primulaworld  blogs 
https://primulaworld.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/spring-is-here-primula-denticulata.html

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Post by: WimB on April 06, 2017, 08:56:41 PM
Primula 'Drumcliff'
Primula 'Guinevere'
Primula 'Kusham Krishna' Edit: 'Kusum Krishna' (Thanks to David for the correction)
Primula 'Wharfedale Bluebell'
Primula 'Cowichan Red'
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Post by: WimB on April 06, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Primula hirsuta 'Dark Pink'
Primula rosea 'Grandiflora'
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 07, 2017, 07:13:38 PM
Nice set of Primulas Wim. I've tried Kusum Krishna (note the spelling!) a number a times under glass and failed every time. Perhaps it was telling to grow it outside?
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Post by: WimB on April 08, 2017, 07:24:47 AM
Nice set of Primulas Wim. I've tried Kusum Krishna (note the spelling!) a number a times under glass and failed every time. Perhaps it was telling to grow it outside?

Thanks for the correct, David. I've changed it in the original message. Over here it's been growing well outside in a trough for the last 3 years...Very slow though!
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Post by: Leena on April 09, 2017, 09:47:31 AM
I like your Primulas, Wim, especially the ones with darker foliage (I have two plants grown from 'Jessica' seeds with also bronze foliage, but yellow flowers, which is a nice combination, too), and the blue one is stunning colour. :)
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Post by: WimB on April 14, 2017, 05:59:27 PM
I like your Primulas, Wim, especially the ones with darker foliage (I have two plants grown from 'Jessica' seeds with also bronze foliage, but yellow flowers, which is a nice combination, too), and the blue one is stunning colour. :)

Thanks you, Leena...two more from today:

Primula 'Francesca'
en Primula 'Sneeuwwitje'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2017, 06:53:29 PM

Primula 'Francesca'


Each to his own ;D
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Post by: johnw on April 14, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
No, the green one is Primula 'Francisca', not Francesca.  Found by the late Francisca Darts on a compost heap at a garden centre in suburban Vancouver, BC.  She was a fabulous & generous plantswoman.

Of note Galanthus elwesii 'Rosemary Burnham' almost was named Francisca Darts until we caught the mistake and made a number of frantic phone calls.  Thankfully John Grimshaw came to the rescue just in the nick of time.  That wasn't yesterday...

https://dartshill.ca/ (https://dartshill.ca/)

john
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Post by: Leena on April 15, 2017, 07:30:56 AM
I have also 'Francisca' (bought as 'Francesca'), it is very hardy Primula and survived  winters when many Barnhaven Primulas have died in my garden.
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Post by: WimB on April 15, 2017, 09:42:12 AM
No, the green one is Primula 'Francisca', not Francesca.  Found by the late Francisca Darts on a compost heap at a garden centre in suburban Vancouver, BC.  She was a fabulous & generous plantswoman.

Of note Galanthus elwesii 'Rosemary Burnham' almost was named Francisca Darts until we caught the mistake and made a number of frantic phone calls.  Thankfully John Grimshaw came to the rescue just in the nick of time.  That wasn't yesterday...

https://dartshill.ca/ (https://dartshill.ca/)

john

Thanks John, over here it is sold everywhere as Francesca, I'll do some re-educating ;-) My label has been changed already to Francisca.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on April 15, 2017, 09:42:57 AM
No, the green one is Primula 'Francisca', not Francesca.  Found by the late Francisca Darts on a compost heap at a garden centre in suburban Vancouver, BC.  She was a fabulous & generous plantswoman.

Still don't like it ;D
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Post by: WimB on April 15, 2017, 09:44:06 AM
Still don't like it ;D

I've always wondered what Miss Piggy says about taste...  ;D  ;D  :P
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 15, 2017, 09:57:29 AM
 :D
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Post by: Roma on April 15, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
Primula auricula - I think this was from wild collected seed but this is the only one left after a few years and the label has long gone too
Next is a mystery - Bought from Kevock as 'Blairside Yellow' many years ago and the first time it has flowered for a long time
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Roma on April 15, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
I get lots of self sown seedlings.  Most are unremarkable but I do get an occasional star
A very floriferous white polyanthus.  I like the smaller flowers.
A seedling with 'Dark Rosaleen' in its parentage.  The flowers are paler and the foliage not as dark
Primula 'Dark Rosaleen'
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Post by: Roma on April 15, 2017, 10:51:23 PM
Primula 'Tipperary Purple - an old Jack in the green type primrose
The plant on the right of this picture is a jack in the green seedling with bigger paler flowers
Primula 'Belarina Yellow'
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: David Nicholson on April 16, 2017, 09:51:09 AM
Nice collection Roma. Why don't you think your x 'Blairside Yellow' is true? I think you've done well to get it to flower I've lost it many times.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Roma on April 16, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
David,  I think the colour of not 'Blairside Yellow' is wrong.  It's more of a mustard yellow compared to the real one and the bronze or purplish colour of the tube does not seem right.  I must buy another 'Blairside Yellow' if I see it for sale to compare the flowers.  It is a long time since I had the real one and I don't think I had them both in flower at the same time.  I did mention to David Rankin (Kevock ) when I bought it that it looked different bit he had no explanation.
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 16, 2017, 01:59:54 PM
Hi Roma,

I'll email you a large file of my plant from 2014 if it's any use.
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Post by: Leena on April 17, 2017, 08:10:00 AM
Roma, very nice primulas! :)
I didn't know that 'Dark Rosaleen' can set seeds, now I have to watch it carefully this year if I can get seeds from it. :)
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Post by: Roma on April 17, 2017, 02:47:08 PM
Leena, this was a self sown seedling so 'Dark Rosaleen' may have been the pollen parent and not the seed one.
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Post by: Matt T on April 17, 2017, 10:49:02 PM
David,  I think the colour of not 'Blairside Yellow' is wrong.  It's more of a mustard yellow compared to the real one and the bronze or purplish colour of the tube does not seem right.  I must buy another 'Blairside Yellow' if I see it for sale to compare the flowers.  It is a long time since I had the real one and I don't think I had them both in flower at the same time.  I did mention to David Rankin (Kevock ) when I bought it that it looked different bit he had no explanation.

Roma, your plant certainly looks different to the one I have as 'Blairside Yellow'. Mine has nice clear yellow flowers, rather lighter than yours and the tube is concolorous with the petals. Also, I note the leaves on your plant are very definitely toothed at the margin, whereas in mine they are only slightly toothed. I will strike a couple of cuttings for you and bring them to the late bulb event.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Leena on April 18, 2017, 08:09:19 AM
Leena, this was a self sown seedling so 'Dark Rosaleen' may have been the pollen parent and not the seed one.

Thank you. I don't get many self sown seedlings from primulas, but I will watch out for them.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Roma on April 18, 2017, 08:24:53 PM
Roma, your plant certainly looks different to the one I have as 'Blairside Yellow'. Mine has nice clear yellow flowers, rather lighter than yours and the tube is concolorous with the petals. Also, I note the leaves on your plant are very definitely toothed at the margin, whereas in mine they are only slightly toothed. I will strike a couple of cuttings for you and bring them to the late bulb event.
Thank you Matt.  I would like that.  I'm afraid only two shoots on my plant so none to spare.  It is recovering after being poorly (or neglected) for a few years.  If you fancy anything else I grow just let me know.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Roma on April 23, 2017, 10:40:12 PM
Auricula 'Spring Meadows'
Another neglected primula which has not flowered for some years.  The label has faded.  Can anyone help with a name?  I think it is a species.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on April 24, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
Scottish Auricula & Primula Society (http://thescottishauriculaandprimulasociety.com/), 3rd Annual Show -Saturday May 20,
Auchterarder Community Church Hall. Plant sales from 10.00am, show hall opens 12pm approx.

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'Gleneagles'

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Auricula Theatre at  Rumbling Bridge Nursery (http://rumblingbridgenursery.co.uk/), who will also be attending the show to sell plants.
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Roma on April 24, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
Pity it clashes with the Aberdeen show.  Not possible to be in two places at once :-\
Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Gabriela on April 30, 2017, 01:52:47 PM
Love the Auricula Theaters - only learned about them from a friends blog a few years ago.

I got this hybrid Primula from a batch of P. veris 'Sunset Shades' seedlings of two years ago. I'll take more pictures if the rain stops, but I'm excited about it.

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Title: Re: Primula 2017
Post by: Steve Garvie on May 31, 2017, 12:56:39 PM
Primula reidii var. williamsii -with glorious scent.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4222/34845562732_449cd55e1a_o.jpg)

Primula sheriffii -bizarrely beautiful with its long flower tube.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4203/34969192966_ab74e9bd42_b.jpg)

Primula ambita -Very rare in cultivation but not one to set the heather alight (in same group as P. obconica)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4244/34198607673_e299bdee09_o.jpg)

Primula amethystina -A difficult wee primula. This one had great promise until the flower was cooked, at least the plant survived.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4251/34969191746_3341521412_o.jpg)

And after a baking:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4228/34198608413_dc50b6a7e4_o.jpg)

Omphalogramma vinciflorum -OK, not a primula but very close.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4221/34969191656_eec961fbc0_o.jpg)

Primula tangutica -bizarre rather than bonny!
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4223/34845563182_95740e5516_o.jpg)
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