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Title: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Tony Willis on February 01, 2016, 10:51:49 AM
An unusual coloured Crocus pelistericus with more normal ones.

Crocus sieberi ssp atticus, both from my own seed
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
An unusual coloured Crocus pelistericus with more normal ones.

  A pretty variation - I have a real soft spot for C. pelistericus, the richness of colour  is  so velvety.  Much time can pass just gazing at  it in flower!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 01, 2016, 11:35:18 AM
An unusual coloured Crocus pelistericus with more normal ones.

Crocus sieberi ssp atticus, both from my own seed

2 super crocus', Tony !
Very interesting to see the variation in pelistericus !
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 01, 2016, 03:28:20 PM
I can only echo Luc's comments -superb!!!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: WimB on February 01, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
An unusual coloured Crocus pelistericus with more normal ones.

Very beautiful, Tony!

  A pretty variation - I have a real soft spot for C. pelistericus, the richness of colour  is  so velvety.  Much time can pass just gazing at  it in flower!

I now have an image in my head of you laying on the ground, with one foot in the air, gazing at a Crocus flower...we need a smiley for this  ;)  ;D

Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2016, 05:09:26 PM
It can be a risky  pasttime .....
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Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 02, 2016, 01:51:19 PM
Il y a beaucoup de crocus qui attendent le soleil pour ouvrir les fleurs
A lot  of crocus are waiting for the sun to open their flowers
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Crocus angustifolius

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Crocus biflorus ssp biflorus

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Crocus biflorus 'Miss vain'

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Crocus corsicus

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Crocus chrysanthus 'Spring Beauty'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 02, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
et aussi ...

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Crocus sieberi ssp atticus 'Firefly'

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Crocus tommasinianus 'Roseus'

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Crocus inconnu (si quelqu'un à le nom ... )

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Crocus inconnu (si quelqu'un à le nom ... )

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Crocus inconnu (si quelqu'un à le nom ... )
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 03, 2016, 07:51:31 PM
Stunning pelistericus Tony!!  :o

Some Crocusbuds of today, to cold and windy to open:

Crocus x paulinae (x2
Crocus reticulatus 'Blue tiger'
Crocus tommasinianus JMG 04 (seedling from John Grimshaw)
Crocus tommasinianus JMG, also seedling from John Grimshaw
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 03, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
Crocus angustifolius
Crocus cvijicii
Crocus sieberii 'Creme Diamond'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 03, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Quote
Crocus tommasinianus JMG 04 (seedling from John Grimshaw)

  Striking colours - so deep with the dusky outers. Very smart combination.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on February 03, 2016, 09:36:32 PM
Ruben, you are having a superb crocus season this year, only the beginning of February and so many flowers out in the open.  That Crocus x paulinae is fantastic :P

Here not many flowering outside, but inside a few have started.

Crocus caricus showing a second flower, the first one flopped as the light level was so poor.
Crocus dalmaticus from seeds ex Pilous.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Thomas Huber on February 04, 2016, 07:51:54 AM
et aussi ...
Crocus inconnu (si quelqu'un à le nom ... )

Hi Fred.
Your unknown Crocus could be 'Romance' and 'Ard Schenk', the last one maybe 'Aubade' but it's hard to say from your photos, you should try to photograph them when they are open in the sun.
You could also try to compare them with my photos here:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0)

From your first batch Crocus corsicus is surely not true - looks like C. biflorus 'Parkinsonii' to me.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 04, 2016, 10:32:28 AM
Thomas thank you, I'll wait for the sun in this case for pictures
On the one I bought as C. corsicus, here they are more open.
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Parkinsonii ; This is the cultivar name Crocus biflorus?
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 04, 2016, 10:39:58 AM
I have another unknown that was sold in a garden for C. 'King of the Striped'
In your opinion, what is that?
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Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: scatigaz on February 04, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
Some sunshine today in Yorkshire and Rainbow Gold opens for the first time.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on February 04, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
I wonder if anyone could help me please, I'm sowing some crocus seeds that I recieved from Marcus last year, but I'm having trouble reading what it says on the packet. It somebody can tell me what it says I would be grateful. Cheers John

Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 04, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
Crocus biflorus  nubigena   
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on February 04, 2016, 04:58:37 PM
Cheers Maggi, your a star as always.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Thomas Huber on February 05, 2016, 11:26:29 AM
I have another unknown that was sold in a garden for C. 'King of the Striped'
In your opinion, what is that?

Fred, 'King of the Striped' is a C. vernus cultivar. Your photo clearly shows a C. chrysanthus cultivar,
looks like 'Fuscotinctus' to me. A beautiful plant, well increasing, but neither does it set seed nor pollen... :-(
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: YT on February 05, 2016, 01:14:15 PM
Crocus abantensis, JJA 339.609
One of the seedlings in this pot has darker flower than the others :) :) :)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 05, 2016, 02:16:02 PM
Crocus abantensis, JJA 339.609
One of the seedlings in this pot has darker flower than the others :) :) :)
Normal variation in abantensis. See offer of Liga (rarebulbs.lv), I think she offered this year 3 forms of abantensis - traditional blue, dark lilac and Azcabans Escapee
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 05, 2016, 04:15:57 PM
Fred, 'King of the Striped' is a C. vernus cultivar. Your photo clearly shows a C. chrysanthus cultivar,
looks like 'Fuscotinctus' to me. A beautiful plant, well increasing, but neither does it set seed nor pollen... :-(

Thomas thank you  :)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 10:34:17 AM
A nice one from Janis : Crocus tommasinianus Pink marbled
Crocus chrysanthus collected by Vladimir Vasak
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 10:36:29 AM
Crocus sieberi ssp sublimis tricolor with its splendid colors
Crocus heuffelianus is spreading, maybe will it open this afternoon
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Gabriela on February 06, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
So many colours Yann! Very good therapy for the winter gloom.
C. heuffelianus looks perfect as it is for me  :)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: udo on February 06, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
some flowers this weekend,

Crocus biflorus, true species near Rome, Italy
    ''      isauricus, near Akseki, Turkey
    ''      neglectus, N-Italy
    ''      napolitanus, near Napoli, Italy
    ''      veluchensis x cvijicii 'Rainbow Gold'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 06, 2016, 04:49:42 PM
Crocus biflorus ssp adamii starting to flower.

Outside, Crocus tommasinianus albus refuses to open in the chilly, dull weather
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 06, 2016, 04:51:03 PM
Even in bud Crocus tommasinianus albus is beautiful though, Luc.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 05:13:26 PM
Yes the pastel colors are  :P
Crocus angustifolius had some trouble to open, plants as grower need more sun!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 06, 2016, 07:10:39 PM
Even in bud Crocus tommasinianus albus is beautiful though, Luc.

Couldn't agree more, Maggi !

Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Armin on February 06, 2016, 09:27:28 PM
Amazing crocus images from all  8) :o 8)

Here my contribution:
C. bifloriformis, from Canakkale Turkey, very variable, striped and speckled forms
C. chrysanthus Gipsy Girl
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Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Armin on February 06, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
more...

C. chrysanthus Mt. Milea
C. dalmaticus
C. tommasinianus

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Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 06, 2016, 10:11:51 PM
Nice series Armin
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on February 07, 2016, 07:23:54 AM
It is a great pleasure to see all these beautiful Crocus :). Only the very first have started flowering in my garden - and the few one will not open due to lack of sunshine :(
I must bring them inside to open as this Crocus michelsonii God's Look, which I got from a generous forumist last year.

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 07, 2016, 08:10:09 AM
Amazing crocus images from all  8) :o 8)

Here my contribution:
C. bifloriformis, from Canakkale Turkey, very variable, striped and speckled forms
C. chrysanthus Gipsy Girl
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Hi Armin, long time no see ! Nice to have you back !
Very nice bifloriformis - your lawn seems to be doing well !

It is a great pleasure to see all these beautiful Crocus :). Only the very first have started flowering in my garden - and the few once will not open due to lack of sunshine :(
I must bring them inside to open as this Crocus michelsonii God's Look, which I got from a generous forumist last year.

Poul

Looking good, Poul !
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 07, 2016, 11:24:06 AM
    ''      isauricus, near Akseki, Turkey

Could be C. concinnus or C. mawii.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 07, 2016, 12:39:13 PM
Nice pictures everybody!
Poul, that 'God's Look' is stunning

Crocus cvijicii x veluchiensis 'Rainbow Gold'
Crocus cvijicii
Crocus schneiderii BATM 428
Crocus alatavicus van Alma Ata
Crocus flavus x antalyensis 'Turkish Cocktail'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 07, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
Crocus x paulinae
Crocus biflorus ssp. isauricus RP 1
Crocus sieberii 'Creme Diamond'
Crocus sieberii 'George'
Crocus tommasinianus 'Eric Smith'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 07, 2016, 12:49:53 PM

Crocus tommasinianus Eric Smith has very particular air. Looks like he is spotted, right?
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 07, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
Voici Crocus olivieri balansae 'Orange Monarch' dans la serre
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Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 07, 2016, 04:16:53 PM
I thought i had had time to photograph other plants but a shower of hail dashed hopes :-\
Crocus vernus Krasno Polje did not even disdain bloom.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Armin on February 07, 2016, 09:05:29 PM
Nice series Armin

Yann, thank you.
Hail and black frosts can be fatal, so happend Feb. 2012 for me with >90% losses. Pity and sad if flowers and rare plants get killed before we can enjoy their beauties.
Keep my fingers crossed - nothing sofar this season :P.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Armin on February 07, 2016, 09:10:59 PM
Hi Armin, long time no see ! Nice to have you back !
Very nice bifloriformis - your lawn seems to be doing well !

Looking good, Poul !

Hello Luc, thank you. I was never away from this forum. Just there was nothing to show. ;)
So many croconuts with fantastic species in their collections - I adore all who can keep them alive.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on February 08, 2016, 04:46:22 AM

Looking good, Poul !

Thank you Luc! I am quite satisfied with this one. It is more compact than other forms I grow. The dark Winter here makes it difficult to grow Crocus michelsonii without flowers flopping over.

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: udo on February 08, 2016, 02:58:23 PM
A sunny weekend and some new flowers yesterday:
Crocus caricus
    ''      cyprius
    ''      danfordiae or minutus
    ''      sieberi
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: udo on February 08, 2016, 03:03:24 PM
and more:
Crocus sublimis
            imperati
            suaveolens
            thirkeanus ( herbertii )
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Armin on February 08, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Great looking stuff Dirk  8)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 08, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
yep the pot full of cyprius is wonderful ;)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Matt T on February 09, 2016, 06:23:34 PM
I think I like these Crocus imperati suaveolens best as they are only just starting to open. The smallest glimpse of the plush interior is very tantalising.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Roma on February 09, 2016, 09:32:56 PM
I can't see any sign of Crocus imperati suaveolens in the garden.  It is usually up early with me but the corms were attacked by mice in the summertime.  I'd also planted out the ones I had in a pot so it looks like I've lost it completely.  I wish they'd reduce the numbers of Crocus pulchellus which is threatening to take over the whole garden.  A crocus like pulchellus which sets lots of seed and produces lots of cormlets is less likely to be wiped out than one which mainly splits into large corms and does not produce seed.  If I remember rightly the Crocus imperati came from Harold Esslemont a very long time ago so it's loss is all the sadder.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Tony Willis on February 11, 2016, 11:50:14 AM
Colour contrast in Crocus cvijicii. The one on the left is from Mt. Vermion in Greece and on the right  from Mt. Magaro in FYROM.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Pauli on February 11, 2016, 05:05:52 PM
Tony,

I have observed the same colours an no mixtures or intermediates. When someone researches these plants as intensive as the Turkish crocuses, I am sure there will be a "new" species!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Tony Willis on February 11, 2016, 05:10:31 PM
Tony,

I have observed the same colours an no mixtures or intermediates. When someone researches these plants as intensive as the Turkish crocuses, I am sure there will be a "new" species!

hello Herbert,nice to hear from you. As a total non believer in all the 'new species' I will wait until they are divided and then treat the results with total scepticism.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 11, 2016, 06:34:51 PM
Wooow very special the one from Mt. Magaro Tony!! really nice

Crocus x paulinae
Crocus crysanthus 'Snow Crystal'
Crocus crysanthus 'Gaudeamus'
Crocus tommasinianus 'Bobbo'
Crocus x leonidii "Early Gold'
Title: move
Post by: ruben on February 11, 2016, 06:40:07 PM
Be careful Cfred, you're Crocus olivierii 'Orange monarch' looks heavy virused!!

Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 11, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Be careful Cfred, you're Crocus olivierii 'Orange monarch' looks heavy virused!!


Refers to this post on the previous page , I suppose -
Voici Crocus olivieri balansae 'Orange Monarch' dans la serre

.... but where  do you see serious virus signs, Ruben?
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 11, 2016, 08:33:51 PM
Maggy, on the picture you show they look very healty. I added the picture of the Narcissus page (thanks for using cfred) - but i think no its just because they are at the end of flowering! My mistake  ;)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 11, 2016, 08:45:54 PM
Oh! I see  what you mean - I  thought you'd got the wrong  page!  I think  you're correct - the flowers in the narcissus pic are simply  going over.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: johnw on February 11, 2016, 11:29:39 PM
Wondering how the name 'Gaudeamus' got past the registrar?

johnw
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: YT on February 12, 2016, 06:54:22 AM
Crocus crysanthus 'Gaudeamus' is so lovely, Ruben :P
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 12, 2016, 07:56:24 AM
Ruben and Maggi, the translator does not translate correctly the words.
I do not understand what resembles a virus
I just go to the greenhouse. I took these pictures.
Today it seems that this will be a very nice bright sunny day.
I remake photos when they will be open.
Does he have twisted petals that make you think that?
I had sprayed last week against aphids with systemic. Perhaps an explanation?
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Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on February 12, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
Crocus cvijicii, grown from own seeds.  I quite like the globular forms of this slightly variable species.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2016, 11:23:31 AM
Ruben and Maggi, the translator does not translate correctly the words.
I do not understand what resembles a virus
I just go to the greenhouse. I took these pictures.
Today it seems that this will be a very nice bright sunny day.
I remake photos when they will be open.
Does he have twisted petals that make you think that?
I had sprayed last week against aphids with systemic. Perhaps an explanation?

  Fred : dans votre photo du narcisse, qui a également montré le crocus dans le coin de l'image, Ruben pensait que le crocus avait l'air mal en forme, tordu - et il trouve que cela pourrait signifier les ampoules ont été affectés par un virus - mais l'image n'a pas été assez clair là pour montrer que les fleurs sont en train de mourir et donc pas sous leur meilleur jour. Dans vos photos des fleurs fraîches nous pouvons voir qu'ils sont en bonne santé. Donc, il n'y a rien pour vous inquiéter.

....... in your photo of the narcissus, which also showed the crocus in the corner of the picture, Ruben thought the  crocus looked  badly shaped, twisted - and so thought this might mean the bulbs were affected by a virus - but the picture was not clear enough there to show that the flowers are dying and so not looking their best.  In  your photos of the fresh flowers we can see that they are healthy.  So there is nothing for you to worry about.

Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2016, 11:28:33 AM
Wondering how the name 'Gaudeamus' got past the registrar?

johnw
  Wonder if it's been anywhere near a registrar? So many plants given names  informally,  commercial  or otherwise  - who knows?
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 12, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
On one picture mottled leaves, stripes something irregular, flowers "crumpled" (may be old)
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 13, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
With the bad weather and the lack of light very few Crocus are blooming.

Crocus chrysanthus, striped form
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on February 13, 2016, 04:43:38 PM
Very striking Yann.  Sometimes it is better to see them that way.

I have a Crocus dalmaticus in flower for a week but ever since it was fully open it has not closed, even in poor light.  I just took the attached photo on a cold, dull and damp day here.  I wonder whether others have noticed this in some C. dalmaticus clones.  I know this is a normal feature of C. tournefortii and some (?most) forms of C. cartwrightianus.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Matt T on February 13, 2016, 05:34:16 PM
Very striking Yann.  Sometimes it is better to see them that way.

I have a Crocus dalmaticus in flower for a week but ever since it was fully open it has not closed, even in poor light.  I just took the attached photo on a cold, dull and damp day here.  I wonder whether others have noticed this in some C. dalmaticus clones.  I know this is a normal feature of C. tournefortii and some (?most) forms of C. cartwrightianus.

Curious behaviour, Cyril. I have C. dalmaticus from a couple of sources and they both close up at night and on dull days.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 13, 2016, 05:56:40 PM
Comment from Ian, after I'd said perhaps the flower was just very pleased to see the sun - "Cyril's lucky he's had enough sun to open it at all" !!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on February 13, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
Matt, yes strange.  I have other clones that close up when it is dull too.

Maggi, we have had brief moments of sunshine this week to open crocus flowers but I think this flower got so shocked that it never recovered to close up again ;D
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ian mcenery on February 14, 2016, 07:59:08 PM
Some really nice specimens on this thread

from today
Crocus paschei from Crocus group seed
in the garden Crocus tomm Eric Smith from a single corn from Rob Potterton
A self sown seedling tommy over the years the population has grown and so has the variety
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: udo on February 17, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
some flowers in the last days, :D
Crocus candidus, NW-Turkey
            graveolens, S-Turkey
            isauricus, SW-Turkey, Belpinar Gec
            variegatus, NW-Italy
            veluchensis aff, N-Greece
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 18, 2016, 12:18:16 PM
Stunning isauricus Dirk!!

Some pictures from this week

Crocus sieberii ssp sieberii from crete
Crocus leichtlinii
Crocus crysanthus 'Eyecatcher'
Crocus biflorus ssp. nubigena
Crocus alatavicus
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 18, 2016, 12:20:17 PM
View from the kitchen
Crocus sieberii 'Cretan Snow'
Crocus angustifolius 'Bronze form'
Crocus crysanthus 'Rusne'
Crocus versicolor 'Stilgaya'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 18, 2016, 12:22:29 PM
Some shots of the most advanced bulb bed
Crocus vernus 'Balkan White'
Crocus paschei
Crocus sieberii ssp. atticus x Crocus veluchiensis from Mount Parnasuss (selection Tony Willis)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 20, 2016, 07:18:30 PM
Some pictures of crocusses yesterday:

Crocus tommasinianus JMG10 - a tommie with pink tips. First picture is now in the garden (still young plant- and second picture is the mother plant in John grimshaws garden (who selected this gem) when settled well.

Crocus tommasinianus RHS 6
Crocus crysanthus 'Jürpils'
a piece of the garden where i grow the crocus for more wet areas
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 20, 2016, 07:20:16 PM
Crocus versicolor from Alpes Maritiemes France
Crocus vernus 'Krasno Polje'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 20, 2016, 11:10:36 PM
a few sunshine and some Crocus, thanks for sharing.
Never seen versicolor with such tones in the Alpes maritimes, you know locus?
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Tony Willis on February 21, 2016, 02:06:42 PM
Crocus pelistericus,a white form with some faint blue veins at the base
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Catwheazle on February 21, 2016, 03:26:10 PM
Crocus tommasinianus .... i think ....
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Dean C on February 21, 2016, 09:57:45 PM
An unnamed little tommie and a couple of C.sieberi 'Tricolor'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on February 21, 2016, 09:59:25 PM
Crocus pelistericus,a white form with some faint blue veins at the base
Tony, quite unique this white form of Crocus pelistericus.  I wonder whether seedlings would come true, but if it is all one clone it may not be fertile.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Matt T on February 22, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
C. sieberi 'Tricolor' is in flower here too - not rare or difficult but beautiful and very cheery
Also Crocus etruscus and
Crocus corsicus - this flower is huge!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Tony Willis on February 22, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
Tony, quite unique this white form of Crocus pelistericus.  I wonder whether seedlings would come true, but if it is all one clone it may not be fertile.

Cyril,I am cross fertilising them with another white one I have and so am hopeful of getting seed.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 23, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
Yann, the versicolor is one i got from Frederic Depalle. So he will know the exact area.

Crocus heuffelianus ex poland
Crocus heuffelianus selectie John Grimshaw
Crocus heuffelianus 'National park
Crocus tommasinianus 'JMG 10' - special on this one is the white back (marbled)
Crocus tommasinianus 'JMG 3'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 23, 2016, 06:36:59 PM
Crocus tommasinianus RHS 6
Crocus tommasinianus 'pure white form'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 26, 2016, 03:34:05 PM
First pictures this year. Outside stil;l snow and rain, temperature around zero +/- 2 C, and cloudy, so only very few
Crocus sozenii
Variability of C. athous
Crocus antherotes
Most likely new species from biflorus group in Turkey (SW)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
Super photos of these gems, Janis!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2016, 04:45:07 PM
The February issue of IRG is online......

Jānis Rukšāns discusses Crocus  naming .......  and there is more, of course........News of the North American Rock Garden Society's planned event at Steamboat Springs  this June .......and Grahame Ware  enthuses over Campanula coriacea.......


Find  IRG 74 HERE (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Feb261456445173IRG74.pdf)

  A full index to IRG is available  HERE (http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRG-Index.pdf)   
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 27, 2016, 09:17:51 PM
Crocus heuffelianus a marvelous specie.
Crocus versicolor
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 28, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
Virus?
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on February 28, 2016, 04:31:00 PM
Yann, it looks like some physical damage to me.

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on February 28, 2016, 04:34:25 PM
A few Crocus from my garden today:

Crocus chrysanthus Elegance
Crocus korolkowii
Crocus imperati de Jager
Crocus chrysanthus EP Bowles

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on February 28, 2016, 04:36:29 PM
Crocus baytopiorum
Crocus fleischeri

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 05:15:30 PM
Virus?
Frost or mechanical damage.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 28, 2016, 05:21:27 PM
Yes i've inpected the bulbs, it's in good health. First time i've seen that form in my collection.
Poul, Elegance is well named.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Chris Johnson on February 28, 2016, 05:32:10 PM
Crocus sieberi subsp. sublimis 'Tricolor', a recent purchase.

Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Johan K. on February 28, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
Crocus sieberi ssp sublimis 'Tricolor'

Crocus tommasinianus 'Ruby Giant'

Crocus tommasinianus 'Ruby Giant'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Johan K. on February 28, 2016, 06:47:32 PM
Crocus vernus 'Krasno Polje'

Crocus vernus ssp vernus

Crocus x reticulatus 'Early Gold'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 06:53:27 PM
Some beautiful surprise. Turned that collecting some corms of Crocus henriki between them was one of Crocus mediotauricus, described from vicinity by HKEP
and Crocus chrysanthus from type locality in Republic of Macedonia, note the backside of flower segments.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 06:54:52 PM
Marvellous Crocus mawii - real gem and very good name!
And Crocus mysius forms.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 07:00:30 PM
Two still unidentified crocuses, were collected as "pulchellus" (#020) and as "chrysanthus" (#023) - must to see leaf croscut, but they are too small at moment.
And as last  - wild hybrid between chrysanthus and and some "biflorus" P & Schn 8924 - seem that was collected by Pasche and Dirk (by number). This year are several "doubles" blooming, but many has white, undeveloped anthers, too.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 28, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Stunning Crocusses Janis!!

Mediotauricus looks like alatavicus  ;D

Some crocusses (almost the end of the crocus season here in the garden)

3 selections from John Grimshaw
Crocus tommasinianus 'Pieta'
Crocus tommasinianus pure white selection
Crocus tommasinianus 'St Sepulchre's pale'
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 07:14:23 PM
The last for today
Crocus minutus yellow form
Natural hybrid between C. mawii blue with C. chrysanthus sensu lato
Crocus brickellii
Crocus chrysanthus x alexandri, Greek Macedonia - natural hybrid
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 28, 2016, 07:15:22 PM
Crocus biflorus ssp. atrospermus
Crocus crysanthus from Mt falacro Greece - from tony willis
Crocus 'Fantasy'
Crocus orphei
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 07:16:03 PM
Stunning Crocusses Janis!!

Thanks, Ruben. Here season only started.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 28, 2016, 07:17:21 PM
Wooooow  :o :o - hope those 2 forms will be available one day! SO NICE
Natural hybrid between C. mawii blue with C. chrysanthus sensu lato
Crocus chrysanthus x alexandri, Greek Macedonia - natural hybrid
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 07:18:00 PM

Crocus 'Fantasy'


What is this 'Fantasy'?  I have autumn blooming Fantasy distributed from mine former nursery (ilgazensis x pulchellus).
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ruben on February 28, 2016, 08:29:45 PM
Crocus tommasinianus x vernus 'Fantasy' - "Bred many years ago in Eastern Europe this arrived in the west after the fall of the Berlin Wall. A hybrid between Crocus tommasinianus and Crocus Remembrance it has the best attributes of both, with the silvery outer petals intriguingly opening to reveal the glossy purple inside".
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 28, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
Few more
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 28, 2016, 09:15:30 PM
I swear that pink C. alatavicus is the prettiest thing I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Matt T on February 28, 2016, 10:19:36 PM
I swear that pink C. alatavicus is the prettiest thing I've ever seen!

I hope Molly and Megan didn't hear you say (type) that!  :o
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: YT on February 29, 2016, 02:06:07 AM
I swear that pink C. alatavicus is one of the prettiest things I've ever seen! :P
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: carolesmith on February 29, 2016, 02:45:17 PM
I swear that pink C. alatavicus is one of the prettiest things I've ever seen! :P
I swear that pink C. alatavicus is the prettiest thing I've ever seen!
I agree with you both - simply beautiful
 
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on February 29, 2016, 05:29:49 PM
Janis, thank you for showing these exstremely beautiful Crocus!

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Yann on February 29, 2016, 10:47:28 PM
Yep, stunning Crocus Janis. For sure the alatavicus has sweet tones.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on March 01, 2016, 09:20:52 PM
Janis, the pink C. alatavicus seems to be settling down well with multiple flowers.  It is one of the most striking Crocus in existence.  Unfortunately, C. alatavicus rarely multiplies, so it will remain a dream for most of us.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Cyril L on March 01, 2016, 09:25:48 PM
Crocus cvijicii JJA 343.600, ex Greece.  Flowers are scented and in chrome-yellow to orange yellow, different colour to other forms I grow.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Matt T on March 01, 2016, 09:39:13 PM
That really is an intensely coloured form, Cyril. A beauty.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: jrd on March 02, 2016, 10:27:58 PM
A belated photo of a way-too-advanced pot of Crocus pelistericus (from MESE380 sown in 2000) taken on 8th January 2016.

In a more normal year I'd expect it to flower from February to early March.  The flowers usually open sequentially rather than in a single burst, but in this crazy winter the first flowers emerged at the end of November and the final ones last week, a span of some 13 weeks which is taking it to extremes!

Apologies for the rather rushed photo, the pot was hurriedly left in the kitchen before I dashed off to work so that the pollen would be ready for the paint brush later... 

John
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ian mcenery on March 03, 2016, 10:59:55 AM
Crocus cvijicii JJA 343.600, ex Greece.  Flowers are scented and in chrome-yellow to orange yellow, different colour to other forms I grow.

Cyril that is really lovely. Cvijicii can be the nicest of them all. Perhaps it's the  combination of the darker tips and the goblet shape which I like
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: ian mcenery on March 03, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
A belated photo of a way-too-advanced pot of Crocus pelistericus (from MESE380 sown in 2000) taken on 8th January 2016.

In a more normal year I'd expect it to flower from February to early March.  The flowers usually open sequentially rather than in a single burst, but in this crazy winter the first flowers emerged at the end of November and the final ones last week, a span of some 13 weeks which is taking it to extremes!

Apologies for the rather rushed photo, the pot was hurriedly left in the kitchen before I dashed off to work so that the pollen would be ready for the paint brush later... 

John

Nice pot
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on March 03, 2016, 11:11:39 AM
Cvijicii and pelistericus are two of the very best, aren't they?  So beautiful.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 03, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
Sadly I've missed many of my crocus at their best. Here are a few that were recently in flower:

Crocus vaclavii
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1527/25081163629_78ea7bd7e4_o.jpg)

Crocus sieberi -a form from Mt. Parnassos
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1593/25081109689_62060f092c_o.jpg)

Crocus roseoviolaceus
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1718/25448701055_8b35d543d4_o.jpg)

Crocus abantensis
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1697/25330294252_db47028d28_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Matt T on March 03, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
I probably said it last year, but Crocus roseoviolaceus is stunning!
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on March 03, 2016, 03:23:31 PM
Cracking images as usual Steve
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 03, 2016, 05:36:52 PM
Many thanks David.

Roseoviolaceus is indeed a wee cracker Matt. It is slowly clumping up in a pot and seems to benefit from being kept on the cool side over summer (a relatively simple task here in Scotland! ;) ).
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 03, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Oh, this sweet sweet retirement. Finally came day when I can all my time dedicate only to crocuses and some other lovely things. Last 2-3 days were incredibly rich in new discoveries. I feel as botanist of old times, who sitting in his Herbarium browsing sheet after sheet, and then suddenly stopping! Yes, it is something really new! Only instead of Herbarium sheets I'm browsing crocus pots of old gatherings with whom I never had time for identification. And during those days I three times cried "YES - it is new one!" And separable not by number of hairs in flower's throat ;D ;D ;D visible only by microscope, but separable by real features, which every one can observe even without clock-masters lance. Some soon will be published.

Here I'm giving two pictures from one of that trio - note the length of filaments - they are longer than anthers! Look in throat - it is deep purple in centre. Look on colour of filaments!  Of course, about that one I still must to check all new species from HKEP - may be I forgot about some, but my first opinion - it is really new one.

The other pictures are more ordinary things - two unusual colour forms of C. abantensis, and marvellous C. baytopiorum pictured at Liga's Nursery.

Janis
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on March 03, 2016, 06:11:32 PM
Crocus cvijicii JJA 343.600, ex Greece.  Flowers are scented and in chrome-yellow to orange yellow, different colour to other forms I grow.

Cvijicii is lovely in general but this more orange form is outstanding!

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 03, 2016, 06:12:12 PM
Many thanks David.

Roseoviolaceus is indeed a wee cracker Matt. It is slowly clumping up in a pot and seems to benefit from being kept on the cool side over summer (a relatively simple task here in Scotland! ;) ).

With me it stay in greenhouse all the year round - no problems, but it really is heart-braker.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 03, 2016, 06:13:23 PM
Cvijicii is lovely in general but this more orange form is outstanding!

Poul
It is quite typical for Greece colour, at type localituy in Republic of Macedonia it is much paler.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on March 03, 2016, 06:18:39 PM
A belated photo of a way-too-advanced pot of Crocus pelistericus (from MESE380 sown in 2000) taken on 8th January 2016.

In a more normal year I'd expect it to flower from February to early March.  The flowers usually open sequentially rather than in a single burst, but in this crazy winter the first flowers emerged at the end of November and the final ones last week, a span of some 13 weeks which is taking it to extremes!

Apologies for the rather rushed photo, the pot was hurriedly left in the kitchen before I dashed off to work so that the pollen would be ready for the paint brush later... 

John

A well grown pot of this difficult, but very beautiful Crocus. Congratulation!

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: pehe on March 03, 2016, 06:29:34 PM
Oh, this sweet sweet retirement. Finally came day when I can all my time dedicate only to crocuses and some other lovely things. Last 2-3 days were incredibly rich in new discoveries. I feel as botanist of old times, who sitting in his Herbarium browsing sheet after sheet, and then suddenly stopping! Yes, it is something really new! Only instead of Herbarium sheets I'm browsing crocus pots of old gatherings with whom I never had time for identification. And during those days I three times cried "YES - it is new one!" And separable not by number of hairs in flower's throat ;D ;D ;D visible only by microscope, but separable by real features, which every one can observe even without clock-masters lance. Some soon will be published.

Here I'm giving two pictures from one of that trio - note the length of filaments - they are longer than anthers! Look in throat - it is deep purple in centre. Look on colour of filaments!  Of course, about that one I still must to check all new species from HKEP - may be I forgot about some, but my first opinion - it is really new one.

The other pictures are more ordinary things - two unusual colour forms of C. abantensis, and marvellous C. baytopiorum pictured at Liga's Nursery.

Janis

Very exiting with these new species! We all benefit of your retirement. I wish you luck with your new discoveries. The first one is really different.

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 03, 2016, 06:38:14 PM
Very exiting with these new species! We all benefit of your retirement. I wish you luck with your new discoveries. The first one is really different.

Poul
It something resembles two species of HKEP - multicostatus, but at present leraves are too small to be cut for checking of ribs, and another is incognitus - but the mine hes deep purple in throat, anthers are shorter than filaments and filaments are of different colour. So may be too early to cry - hurrah. Still must to check. In any case it would be fantastic addition to my collection.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 03, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
Variability in  Crocus orphei - from Greek Macedonia
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 03, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
Crocus beds today - biflorus, chrysanthus and korolkowii.
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 04, 2016, 03:31:16 PM
Janis, what are you doing with the screwdriver and the yellow crocus in the second photo ??
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 12, 2016, 06:48:16 PM
It is dandelion digger - I'm using it to take out some plant together with corm for herbarium
Title: Re: Crocus February 2016
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 13, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
I see - thanks, Janis
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