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Title: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 02, 2015, 12:49:31 PM
Here is 'Naomi Slade', a new G. reginae-olgae from Joe Sharman.  Its USP is that it is particularly early and this one opened a few days ago (and so could have made 'September' if I had been less tardy in taking a photograph).  I don't have many  reginae-olgae as I find that they tend to diminish after a few years in the same spot but this one has flowered ahead of any of my others.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Rick Goodenough on October 02, 2015, 02:59:21 PM
Nice to know it is so early....a beauty as another perk to this Naomi Slade namesake.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 02, 2015, 03:31:11 PM
First of October our galanthus season started with this small but fine beauty.
Now we will have months of joy.
A lot of noses are looking out of the ground.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Rick Goodenough on October 02, 2015, 05:49:55 PM
Hagen, a beautiful start to your Snowdrop season in Germany.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: MR GRUMPY on October 02, 2015, 08:48:21 PM
Hagen, That's a lovely green-tipped peshmenii .
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 02, 2015, 09:08:12 PM
good eyes Steve  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: MR GRUMPY on October 02, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
good eyes Steve  :)


Thanks Hagen.

Alan , Naomi Slade looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: MR GRUMPY on October 02, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Cilicicus with green tips about to open with me for the first time.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 05, 2015, 02:29:28 PM
Shocked to receive these in the post. If I had known they were bulbils I wouldn't have bought them . Very reputable seller but I haven't bought from them before. I should have photographed all that were supplied. They were all bulbils
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: ashley on October 05, 2015, 02:55:31 PM
A very nice cilicicus Steve.
Here peshmenii is flowering under glass and one clone of reginae-olgae has started in the garden but no sign of cilicicus yet.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 06, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
Shocked to receive these in the post. If I had known they were bulbils I wouldn't have bought them . Very reputable seller but I haven't bought from them before. I should have photographed all that were supplied. They were all bulbils

That really isn't on is it, no doubt you were charged as if they were flowering size bulbs. What a rip-off.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 06, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
I was Brian
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 06, 2015, 11:04:30 AM
It may be deformed but I now have a green tipped reginae-olgae 'Ruby Baker'. I had to buy!! another in flower this time last year so I could get one. My previous purchase, now 4, have very little or no green tips
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Roma on October 06, 2015, 03:29:47 PM
Thought you might like to see this potful shown by Anne Wright at the SRGC Discussion Weekend
Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Blanc de Chine'
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 06, 2015, 04:28:40 PM
Gorgeous, isn't it? And in 2013 it was only one bulb - Anne chipped it and now in 2015 there were 19 flowers in the pot!!!!!
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 06, 2015, 04:36:05 PM
Gorgeous
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 06, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
Anne is a magician  ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Mariette on October 06, 2015, 10:42:50 PM
And a woman of taste, too. The pure-white flowers make this r.-o. look like more than just a snowdrop out of time. Highly desirable, this ´Blanc de Chine´!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Melvyn Jope on October 07, 2015, 02:43:14 PM
 Checking some of my G.r-o seedlings from Langada Pass today and noticed this one.A real pleasure when you get one with some promise.As you will see from the label I noted that it might be worth keeping when I repotted it, the bulb was significantly larger than the others. Would just like now to produce a fully double one!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Tim Harberd on October 07, 2015, 09:27:44 PM
Hi Mark,
   The supplier’s behaviour you report is very irritating.

   I note you don’t name them............

   Perhaps a partial solution is to ‘trumpet’ the names of good suppliers?

   For instance, (I know its not galanthus, but) this week I received these three bulbs from Ringhaddy Daffodils.. The rest of the order was similar AND they included a ‘gratis’ bulb of another variety with three noses.

Tim DH
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: ruben on October 08, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
Galanthus reginae olgae with green tips - From north of Mani Greece
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Leena on October 08, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
I started watering my G.reginae-olgae's in late August, but there is no sign of them yet.  :(
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Giles on October 08, 2015, 09:03:32 PM
..lifted some snowdrops for potting..
..affected bulbs generally lacked both shoots and roots..
...cutting bulbs open didn't reveal any larvae etc..
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 08, 2015, 09:22:44 PM
Narcissus fly grubs make an obvious hole in the base. It could be a case of basal rot and or stag
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 08, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
In some areas the larvae of the Swift Moth are a big problem whilst in other areas they appear to be very rare.  I'm pretty sure they would eat roots and shoots as well as eating in to the actual bulb.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: brianw on October 09, 2015, 05:47:32 PM
I have some G.reginae-olgae in a pot in flower in the unheated greenhouse now. They emerged from the compost as a white shoot, but no visible leaf sheath, or leaves yet. My neighbour has the Cambridge form coming up in his garden but showing an obvious green leaf sheath, first. Is this a varietal difference or growing conditions, or both?
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: steve owen on October 09, 2015, 08:06:22 PM
..lifted some snowdrops for potting..
..affected bulbs generally lacked both shoots and roots..
...cutting bulbs open didn't reveal any larvae etc..
Any ideas?
Giles
A familiar sight! Stagonspora, I think. You should find quite a lot of guidance in previous posts on what your options are. You will need to treat the soil they came from (or throw it away if in a pot).
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 09, 2015, 11:05:43 PM
You could be right, Steve, but bulbs that have been chomped tend to look pretty sick; which is hardly surprising with 'open wounds' under the soil.  A few years ago I caught a swift moth larva and put it with a snowdrop bulb in some soil inside a sealed plastic container.  Some months later I opened the container to find the bulb was fine but there was no sign of the grub.  Presumably it did not cope with being held in captivity.  If I get the chance I will try to repeat the experiment so I can post pictures of exactly what eaten bulbs look like (if there is anything left).             
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Giles on October 10, 2015, 07:24:15 AM
Thankyou, all  ....
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 10, 2015, 09:05:57 AM
the greenish gnoms of G peshmenii are back again..... :)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 10, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Great to see it Hagen, hope your season is now progressing well!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: MR GRUMPY on October 10, 2015, 01:53:10 PM
I have to echo Mr Ellis's comment Hagen . :o .
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Rick Goodenough on October 10, 2015, 11:04:19 PM
Beautiful Hagen, you seem to have the corner going on good greens...way to go! Rick
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 11, 2015, 09:54:52 AM
I've missed the wonderful posts and information on these pages - busy with a gardening society here in Ireland and unable to find the time for everything. However, I really must try to be a more frequent visitor as nowhere matches the quality of information found here.

Now, to say "Hello" again, here is a little clump of G. reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie'.

Despite appearances, these are pot grown in a cold glasshouse and were simply taken outdoors where I buried the pot in fallen leaves for the photograph - a little artistic licence!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 11, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
I received these bulbs some years ago as G. reginae-olgae 'Sofia' but I am fairly certain that they are not and are, perhaps, G. reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' again.

Any opinions?
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on October 11, 2015, 01:02:25 PM
Made an excellent trip to The Cyclamen Society Autumn Show at RHS Wisley today!

Great to meet Melvyn Jope and relieve him of some lovely early flowering drops.

I had heard from Brian Ellis how lovely G.r-o Autumn Snow is but to see it up close is very special. I also managed to get G.r-o Eleni and Lefki which are lovely additions.

Luckily I was not subject to the steely gaze of Melvyn and the judges as they went about their work!  ;D

Just for the record I also bought a lovely Cyclamen and a fern!  ;D ;D Keeps the acquisition team guessing!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2015, 01:35:08 PM
With your 'drop fixation, Ingrid, I'm a little surprised they let you in! Hope you made some encouraging noises about the cyclamen ?  :-\
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on October 11, 2015, 01:38:58 PM
With your 'drop fixation, Ingrid, I'm a little surprised they let you in! Hope you made some encouraging noises about the cyclamen ?  :-\

Oh yes, I bought a beautiful dark one and a fern!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2015, 02:13:08 PM
Oh yes, I bought a beautiful dark one and a fern!

 Hmm, sounds a bit like Ian's description of his car - "it's a blue one" ...........
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on October 11, 2015, 03:11:45 PM
Hmm, sounds a bit like Ian's description of his car - "it's a blue one" ...........

You are closer than you think! Delegated the previous response to my acquisition team while cooking lunch! ' A beautiful dark one ' I mean really!

Although, I have to say that its not far from accurate ! It is apparently a hederifolium bred from x nos of generations of dark magenta seedlings such that if grown in the shade, the flowers are a glorious purple!    The fern is a polystichum setiferum, it should survive being neglected for snowdrops but provide some evergreen background. possibly to my next Ian Young inspired pot!!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2015, 03:22:54 PM
There was a fair degree of mumping about the effort your last IY inspired pot created for  your ATeam - so perhaps you'd better keep quiet about any future plans for fear of mutiny!!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Leena on October 14, 2015, 06:44:54 PM
This morning there was a welcome sight: an unnamed G.reginae-olgae has come up. I had to fetch the camera right away. :)
This was planted last spring, and is the first to come up. I also planted 'Cambridge' and 'Tilebarn Jamie', they don't show yet.
I've been thinking if the day length is a factor to when they come up? I have watered the place where they grow since the end of August.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Mariette on October 14, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
Congratulations! With me, ´Cambridge´and ´Tilebarn Jamie´are slightly later than some others, which are flowering since a week. But of course, we had 100 mm of rainfall during August.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 14, 2015, 11:57:45 PM
Paddy 'Tilebarn Jamie' should have twin scapes
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: mark smyth on October 15, 2015, 12:01:08 AM
I'm torn between putting these in the garden or leaving them in the pot. I did get 14 bulbils from 10 chips of a bulb and daughter this year so maybe in a few years I can experiment.

I've ordered a lot of 13cm terracotta long toms for the new plunge but they are late coming and I'm not about to start to repot again.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 15, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
Well do something about predators Mark, mine are in the garden, lovely flowers one day, nothing there the next!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 15, 2015, 10:40:57 AM
Yes, slugs and snails are way too active at this time of year.  The only consolation is that the leaves usually emerge undamaged later.  You either use pellets or a physical barrier or plant somewhere so dry in summer that gastropods are unlikely to venture.   
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 15, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
I'm torn between putting these in the garden or leaving them in the pot. I did get 14 bulbils from 10 chips of a bulb and daughter this year so maybe in a few years I can experiment.

I've ordered a lot of 13cm terracotta long toms for the new plunge but they are late coming and I'm not about to start to repot again.

Yes, these have twin scapes; not in all bulbs but that doesn't surprise me as they would have been disturbed during repotting and the less mature bulbs wouldn't produce twin scapes yet.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: ashley on October 15, 2015, 11:02:34 PM
Despite appearances, these are pot grown in a cold glasshouse and were simply taken outdoors where I buried the pot in fallen leaves for the photograph - a little artistic licence!

Beautiful photos Paddy. 
At first glance I thought your plants were growing in situ, so wondered why Waterford gastropods should be so much more restrained and mannerly than their Cork cousins  :-\ ;) ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 16, 2015, 07:11:07 AM
Presumably Cork and Waterford are both too wet and mild to offer an inhospitable environment to gastropods anywhere in the garden, which is why Paddy is forced to grow his reginae olgae under glass.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 18, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
Peculiarly, I don't find slugs, snails and relatives do much damage to snowdrops here. I don't know why but do not complain.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 19, 2015, 08:14:05 AM
For me, slugs and snails are a major pest for my earliest snowdrops but no problem thereafter.  Any snowdrop emerging from around November onwards seems to be safe from gastropods but before that they are at serious risk of having the emergent flower buds eaten off.  Even when spring comes around I suppose the mature leaves must have lost their taste and they are never attacked if the plant is healthy.     
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on October 23, 2015, 11:41:55 AM
Santa Claus is coming to town and bulking up nicely! It is always doubly heartening when clumps start forming after a year or two!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2015, 11:50:45 AM
Santa Claus is coming to town and bulking up nicely! It is always doubly heartening when clumps start forming after a year or two!  ;D ;D

 Or, in some cases, it is simply astonishing if they remain at all, let alone multiply!  (Sorry, I'm having a negative morning!)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 23, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
Here I have decided to rename this Rainbow Farm too Early - as you can see from the second picture which is potted bulbs for sale next spring they will be over!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2015, 04:37:29 PM
Nice looking 'drop though, Brian.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: ruben on October 23, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
2 seedlings i noticed today:

Galanthus reginae olgae ssp. reginae olgae - a normal one
Galanthus reginae olgae ssp. reginae olgae with short chubby flowers
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Leena on October 24, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
Tilebarn Jamie is showing it's nose today. :)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 25, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
My first Galanthus elwesii 'Peter Gatehouse' into flower, with reginae-olgae behind.

Oops, image came out sideways when posted.

 edit by maggi - fixed I hope!  Edit by Alan - thank you, Maggi.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 25, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
Brian, why EARLY??? I would say they are LATE.....in the year ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 25, 2015, 06:33:15 PM
no sunlight today, but some nice flowers of Galanthus peshmenii

TRAUMTÄNZER
WEISSE ADVENTSPERLEN
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 25, 2015, 06:48:38 PM
Some nice snowdrops for the autumn.
Hagen, 'Weisse Adventsperlen' is the most beautiful  flower, thank you for posting  it.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: pehe on October 25, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Hagen, very elegant peshmenii!

Last year I discovered this poc form among my Reginae Olgae seedlings. As it flowered for the first time last year I was exited to see if it was stable, and luckily it seems so.
And it has made an offset, so I can make one of the forum members happy next year. (The lucky one knows who).

Poul
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 25, 2015, 07:52:59 PM
good news Poul, there are only very few autumn pocs... and your look very special......
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: ruben on October 25, 2015, 08:42:00 PM
Excellent Poul! The best poc autumn flowering snowdrop i have seen yet! And as Hagen says, you can count them on one hand!
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 26, 2015, 08:52:45 AM
Good to see your snowdrop is stable Poul, and increasing! 

Hagen the inners of your 'Weisse Adventsperlen' are amazing I love the stripes, and yes I suppose you could say it is Rainbow Farm Late  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 26, 2015, 09:02:33 AM
over the years my joy to the autumn ones increased into a deep love.
Actually I have a small date in the greenhouse every day.
But in the weekend I have to give all.
I had to learn these lovely little differences in time of blooming.

WEISSE ADVENTSPERLEN is one of my favorits, Brian. The inners are looking a little bit like FEINRIPP  ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: annew on October 26, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
The beautiful all-white 'drops are some of my favourites. Thank you for showing them.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: johnstephen29 on October 27, 2015, 06:02:41 PM
Galanthus Reginae Olgae has come into flower in this tub, picking up from where the Cyclamen Intaminatum left off.

Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on October 27, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
Galanthus peshmenii ex Turkey blooming in Michigan in October
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on October 28, 2015, 10:04:19 AM
The season is well under way now! This morning G. koenenianus x fosterii, a hybrid from Anne Wright at Dryad Nursery and G. elwesii Hughes Emerald broke surface!
The morning patrol has some zest  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 28, 2015, 12:52:07 PM
I haven't heard of either of those before, Ingrid.  Should I add them to my pre-Xmas flowering list?  Is the hybrid outside or growing under glass?
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 28, 2015, 01:21:49 PM
G. elwesii ''Hughes Emerald'  or 'Emerald Hughes' has been  mentioned quite often in the Forum - it originates "down under" ...
 most recent mention and photo here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13339.msg338077#msg338077 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13339.msg338077#msg338077)

While many internet results are available for the 'Hughes Emerald' name, there are others, including from Lesley here, of 'Emerald Hughes'  http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12056.msg309409#msg309409 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12056.msg309409#msg309409) - I  think that the latter name is correct, since that is the one used by  the Blue Mountain Nursery, where it originated.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on October 28, 2015, 01:50:20 PM
Thanks Maggi!

The koenenianus x fosterii can be seen on Anne's gallery on:

http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/gallery/GALANTHUS/Galanthus%20Species%20and%20Cultivars/index.html# (http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/gallery/GALANTHUS/Galanthus%20Species%20and%20Cultivars/index.html#)

Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Alan_b on October 28, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Thank you Ingrid and Maggi, but is either of them supposed to be early-flowering or are they just going to sit there showing their noses to Ingrid until February?
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 28, 2015, 04:07:23 PM
Well,  'Emerald Hughes' is flowering in New Zealand in July - mid winter - and Paddy grows it - search the forum to see when his  pix  have been -    January 25th and Feb. 2nd for instance in different years.
Title: Re: Galanthus - October 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 28, 2015, 05:46:17 PM
From Paddy Tobin -  a comparison  of   'Cambridge' and  G. 'Tilebarn Jamie' - thanks Paddy!

"I plucked a 'Tilebarn Jamie' and propped it up beside 'Cambridge' for comparison. 'Cambridge' seems to have a lighter green on the markings and also on the scape and spathe. The size of the markings is also different. "

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Side by side for comparison: Galanthus reginae olgae 'Cambridge' on the left and 'Tilebarn Jamie' on the right.
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