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Title: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Steve Garvie on September 01, 2014, 11:17:45 AM
Utricularia sandersonii -a tiny wee lithophytic Bladderwort from damp rocks in northern KwaZulu-Natal to Transkei.
It likes cool growing conditions but needs frost protection -much like Pleione.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5574/14917616100_99d65677d4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 01, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
Salvia argentea looking good after a long, hot summer.

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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: rgc on September 04, 2014, 09:04:29 AM
Three shades of blue
The plant at the bottom right is Gentian farreri Duguid's Form, the one at the top is multiheaded and is G. Balmoral while I think the one at the left I think is G. Lucerna (lost label). Picture taken yesterday. Still lots of unopened buds on all three plants.

Was at a garden centre yesterday and they had a lot of sino-ornata gentians in a wide range of shades from very deep blue to 'white with blue bits' named Sapphire Selection. They seemed strong growing and some of the shades were quite striking. Was tempted, but did not buy any. Does anyone know the history of this strain?
Bob

Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 04, 2014, 07:42:41 PM
Lovely gentians, Bob.

Henrik Zetterlund's latest blog is online - colchicum and allium and so on..... ....... http://henrikzetterlund.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/varldsrekord-i-nakna-jungfrur/ (http://henrikzetterlund.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/varldsrekord-i-nakna-jungfrur/)
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Giles on September 05, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Magnolia grandiflora 'Exmouth'
..there's a nice tale in Bean about how the original 'Exmouth' plant was rented out to local nurseryman, so that they could take layers from it.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 05, 2014, 09:10:09 PM
Can get enough of this ones ....sorry  ;)

Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Yann on September 05, 2014, 09:20:18 PM
whouahh, really stunning.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 05, 2014, 09:31:02 PM
Oooh, those gentians!  Wonderful, Kris!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Steve Garvie on September 05, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
Those Gentians are superb!!!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 06, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Thanks Anne , Steve and Yann.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 06, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
Kris, is your soil naturally acidic or have you created a special bed for your Autumn Gentian, they really look good.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 06, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
Kris, is your soil naturally acidic or have you created a special bed for your Autumn Gentian, they really look good.

Hi David . I filled this bed with a mixture of leafmould (from beech leafs)  , fine bark , composted pine needle bark, smal amount of clay soil and smal amount of peat. The biggest amount in this mixture is the leafmould. The bed is lined with peat blocks. The peatblocks are also used to give some height. I planted the Gentians in the mixture as described above but always near the peatblocks . So they can root in the soil but also in the soft peatblocks. They can choose what they want....
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 06, 2014, 08:12:24 PM
Many thanks Kris.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 08, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
I am very pleased with this Colquhounia coccinea  which has sort of been lurking for the last couple of years.  Semi-tender it has decided this year to bush out and grow to over six feet, best of all it has covered itself with these inflorescences.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 08, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
I am very pleased with this Colquhounia coccinea  which has sort of been lurking for the last couple of years.  Semi-tender it has decided this year to bush out and grow to over six feet, best of all it has covered itself with these inflorescences.
I would be very pleased with that too! I need to do a bit of reading on this as I like the look of it.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 08, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
Utricularia sandersonii -a tiny wee lithophytic Bladderwort from damp rocks in northern KwaZulu-Natal to Transkei.
It likes cool growing conditions but needs frost protection -much like Pleione.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5574/14917616100_99d65677d4_o.jpg)
I thought that I had congratulated you on this shot but clearly something went wrong - fantastic photo sir!

Anyway, a few things.
Hedychium gardnerianum.....................
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One of three seed grown Abutilon x hybridum. Six months to bloom and they're all good colours, but this is my favourite.............
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3892/14929407410_047cf63184_c.jpg)

Kniphofia "Green Jade"..................
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I'm still completely smitten with Salvia urica..................
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5573/15174326751_f105005ff1_c.jpg)

Salvia transylvanica.................
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/15174327061_a3562d1f61_c.jpg)

Albuca humilis is back in bloom..................
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Tricyrtis "Tojen"..............
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5590/15156821566_20f2fb5210_c.jpg)

And finally, Tricyrtis "White Towers"...................
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3859/14993193390_2494028fe0_c.jpg)
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 08, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
A cracker Brian.  Nice to see this firey colour when most in that colour range have passed.  For more we must await the autumn foliage fire.

john
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 09, 2014, 07:38:35 AM
Spectacular, Brian!
Lucky you,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 10, 2014, 05:58:12 PM
I like "meadow" plants in the garden and the Asters are looking good now.

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However, I now prefer our wild native Asters. This A. occidentalis has been blooming for over a month now and is still going strong.

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Colchicums looking good too.

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Another native I wouldn't be without is Epilobium canum, etc. along these lines. Months of color in the late season. Isn't bothered by drought or 38 c plus summer, fall temperatures. As we are now getting a late season blast of heat (38c)!

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Nothing exotic, just the simple beauty of yellow sunflowers.

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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 10, 2014, 06:45:36 PM
Lovely Epilobium Robert!

Here is the only flower to escape the slugs on my Tricyrtis macropoda..................
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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 12, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
Lovely Epilobium Robert!



Thanks! I agree they are very nice, and especially appreciated in our hot, dry climate.

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A lime green Nicotinia - nothing exciting. This was a chance seedling that is quite dwarf, and well branched with many flowers - a very handsome plant. I never grow the dwarf bedding type Nicotinia   :P - so where this plant came from I have no idea. I'll save the seed and see what happens.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 12, 2014, 06:27:16 AM

A lime green Nicotinia - nothing exciting. This was a chance seedling that is quite dwarf, and well branched with many flowers - a very handsome plant. I never grow the dwarf bedding type Nicotinia   :P - so where this plant came from I have no idea. I'll save the seed and see what happens.
Looks like N.langsdorfii. Like you I dislike the bedding Nicotiana but I grow this cracking wee plant too. By grow I mean that I grew it once and it is now a reliable self seeder. With its slender build and lime flowers it can grow just about anywhere without jarring the eye. Like N.sylvestris it is easily weeded out where not wanted or too dense.
I also grow N.glauca which I believe is considered an invasive weed in parts of California.

I had a deformed flower on my Datura wrightii yesterday!
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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Steve Garvie on September 12, 2014, 07:02:48 AM
Anemone obtusiloba "Pradesh" has been flowering in a raised peat bed all summer and still continues to flower.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15202207002_1eb3a49606_o_d.jpg)

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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Natalia on September 12, 2014, 02:40:05 PM
Blooming seedlings of interesting aquatic plant - Monochoria korsakowii  from the Far East

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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 12, 2014, 07:18:03 PM
Looks like N.langsdorfii. Like you I dislike the bedding Nicotiana but I grow this cracking wee plant too. By grow I mean that I grew it once and it is now a reliable self seeder. With its slender build and lime flowers it can grow just about anywhere without jarring the eye. Like N.sylvestris it is easily weeded out where not wanted or too dense.


I have grown Nicotinia langsdorfii in the past. I like it. This plant is very different - the flowers are much larger and of different proportions. The foliage and plant habit is much different too. I know, all of this is difficult to discern from the photograph! Like you, I enjoy growing Nicotinias and letting them seed about as they wish - removing the one I don't want.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 12, 2014, 07:40:06 PM
I have grown Nicotinia langsdorfii in the past. I like it. This plant is very different - the flowers are much larger and of different proportions. The foliage and plant habit is much different too. I know, all of this is difficult to discern from the photograph! Like you, I enjoy growing Nicotinias and letting them seed about as they wish - removing the one I don't want.
Ah..........Could be a nice addition then.

Anemone obtusiloba "Pradesh" has been flowering in a raised peat bed all summer and still continues to flower.

That is rather special!


I popped into OBG yesterday and was rather smitten by this Oxypetalum coeruleum................
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5565/15022118317_03b15e4e38_c.jpg)
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Steve Garvie on September 12, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
Nice image!!!
A beautiful colour combination!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 13, 2014, 12:11:27 AM
Ah..........Could be a nice addition then.


Whatever happens with the F2's (Nicotinia lime-green hybrid) it will be interesting and fun for me.  ;D
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 13, 2014, 05:51:37 PM
I moved Tricyrtis ishiiana this year and it has struggled.Still, it's nice to have a few blooms...............
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5565/15039968989_7b4c56dc0f_c.jpg)

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Acnistus (Iochroma) australis are starting to bloom again...............
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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ChrisB on September 14, 2014, 02:38:39 PM
Hi Meanie, that looks a lot like a plant I've grown but mine was called Tweedia.  Is it a name change or just another member of the same family?
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fixpix on September 14, 2014, 05:24:15 PM
Chris, I have known it as Tweedia (much easier to remember).
I think it is a name change - same plant.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 14, 2014, 07:24:30 PM
Chris, I have known it as Tweedia (much easier to remember).
I think it is a name change - same plant.

Yes, The Kew Plant List says :

Oxypetalum coeruleum (D. Don ex Sweet) Decne. is an accepted name

This name is the accepted name of a species in the genus Oxypetalum (family Apocynaceae).

The record derives from Tropicos (data supplied on 2012-04-18) which reports it as an accepted name (record 2601961) with original publication details: Prodr. 8: 585 1844.

Full publication details for this name can be found in IPNI: urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:100033-1.
Synonyms:
Tweedia coerulea D. Don ex Sweet    Synonym    M    TRO    2012-04-18
Tweedia versicolor Hook.    Synonym    M    TRO    2012-04-18
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on September 14, 2014, 10:44:48 PM

I'm loving the photos in this thread and it's giving me lots of ideas... I have always liked Tricyrtis but haven't seen some of the species posted by meanie here. I'm going to start seeking them out.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 14, 2014, 11:26:08 PM
I'm loving the photos in this thread and it's giving me lots of ideas... I have always liked Tricyrtis but haven't seen some of the species posted by meanie here. I'm going to start seeking them out.
Here's a starter for you.................

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tricyrtis-Latifolia-Rare-x-Fresh-Seed-/380988706351? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tricyrtis-Latifolia-Rare-x-Fresh-Seed-/380988706351?)
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 15, 2014, 02:58:04 AM
I was greeted this evening with a huge plume of smoke as I drove back from the farmers' market. Fortunately not too close to the farm! 39c yesterday and now the forest is burning.  :(

Yes, Tricyrtis is an interesting group of plants. They are long gone from the garden now.  :(  I especially liked some of the yellow flowering species. T. flava - flavum? (This was 20+ years ago!) was one I liked that I wouldn't mind growing again.

Thanks for all the photos!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 15, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
Today was an adventure shopping for autumn bulbs at our local nurseries. Around here we are way, way, way, at the end of the supply chain - so the adventure is not the shopping but what the little bulbs turn out to be. Colchicum 'Waterlily'  - might be true to name. The others are a real lottery.

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Potentilla gracilis still blooming and looking good mixed around the Nepeta. It has been 32 to 39c for the past few weeks. Not bad for this native plant. Sure wish it would cool down!

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Abutilon 'Little Imp' has been around here for quite a while. It is said to be dwarf or compact, but it still gets 2 meters, maybe more.
The Abutilon pictured is one of my own hybrids - hopefully a 'Little Imp' that stays small - 1 meter or less - only time will tell.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Tony Willis on September 17, 2014, 06:41:15 PM
Eucharis amazonica in flower now
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnstephen29 on September 18, 2014, 11:49:18 AM
Thunbergia alata known as Black Eyed Susan in flower, it's not done as well as it usually does this year for some reason.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3865/15168477835_e8af2bc429_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/15168477835/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/15168477835/) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr

Here are some sweet peas growing on a trellis they have really took off & the scent from the flowers really fill the air with there perfume.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5561/14983552548_bb9a58b3d1_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/14983552548/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/14983552548/) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr


Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on September 18, 2014, 02:56:58 PM
Not alpine, but possibly of interest?

There are many areas of northern England that have suffered decades of poverty, urban blight, depression, neglect and demolition. The grand 'plan' was to sweep away the endless grid of (supposedly) out-of-date two-up, two-down terraced houses and replace them with tree-lined boulevards of semi-detached houses complete with garages, gardens and green open spaces. Fantasy island did not materialise, economics suddenly became relevant and local people found themselves searching for work and food-handouts rather than tree-houses and pools.  The dereliction remained, the apathy grew, the litter and crime increased and the graffiti reflected the despair.  These streets became boarded-up (no-go areas for the police and the public alike), they were the forgotten neighbourhoods of an otherwise surviving, and sometimes thriving, Britain.
These neglected neighbourhoods remain and will stay the same until our impotent politicians can unravel the tangled mess of their own making … but there is light in the darkness … sensitive seeing-eyes that looked at this dereliction and saw space for beauty, saw the potential for a meadow in the mire, realised the opportunity for prairies in these poisoned places. 
We were driving through Burnley yesterday (a typical northern town with quite a number of these neglected streets), through a blighted area that once had few redeeming features, a part of town that we would normally skirt or drive through as quickly as possible.  Yesterday was different, yesterday we stopped the car and got out, yesterday we used our cameras in this unfashionable and undistinguished part of Burnley.  Some of the once derelict blocks had been flattened and the rough ground had been sown/planted with wildflowers … there had been no attempt at landscaping, no crevice gardens, no manicured lawns, no poncey parterres or extravagant extras … this was austerity gardening in austerity Britain and it worked.  It added colour to the greyness, beauty to the barrens and decoration to the dereliction.
In truth the entirety was restricted to an enormous rectangle (limited by financial restrictions, available space, imagination … who knows?), but the inspiration was overwhelming and, more importantly perhaps, the flowers hadn't been desecrated by litter, mowed down by the mindless vandals or driven on by those seeking easy parking - the area was being respected and obviously enjoyed.  Well done to the burghers of Burnley, a small beginning but one of outstanding beauty.  More, much more, please?
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 18, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
What a cheering post, Cliff - and how fantastic to see so much wonderful colour in these flowers in mid- September .

 When, in a city park here in Aberdeen , soeme areas by a pond and on a small island were left uncut to make a safe cover for ducks etc and for wildflowers - the  local paper and Friends of the  Parks got letters of complaint about the "untidy mess"  - it's tough to get through to some folks!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 20, 2014, 06:16:32 PM
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Salvia splendens just getting started. Not the small bedding type - these will get 1-2 meters in a season. They put on a real good show until frost in November!

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Easy and cold hardy.

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Another Abutilon hybrid I'm fooling around with - 'Orange Pumpkin'.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 20, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
Roscoea 'Red Gurkha'  has been flowering for a while.
Clematis 'Huldine'  was originally trained up a string on to Betula utilis.  I don't remember it ever flowering.  The peg holding the string rotted away and the clematis was left on the ground because the bottom branches of the birch trees were too high for me to reach.  It is a variety which should be cut back every year so did not get in too much of a tangle.  This year with no shade after the birch trees were cut it has produced flowers.  It's a pity there is nothing for it to climb up apart from a few Lilium martagon stems.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 22, 2014, 02:00:06 AM
Two Violas that were star performers for us this season.

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Viola douglasii

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Viola purpurea

Both 100% xeric in summer hot, dry Northern California. Both will tolerate some summer water if given perfect drainage i.e. a sand bed or something similar.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 22, 2014, 11:09:12 AM
Two Violas that were star performers for us this season.
Viola douglasii
Viola purpurea

Both 100% xeric in summer hot, dry Northern California. Both will tolerate some summer water if given perfect drainage i.e. a sand bed or something similar.
Well,  fancy that!

I hope I'm not the only person surprised to learn that these violas can, contrary to their appearance, cope with such dry conditions - but then again, perhaps I am - my lack of knowledge about such plants is awful   :-[ :'(

Charming shots of these photogenic little plants, Robert, thank you.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 22, 2014, 04:01:45 PM
Well,  fancy that!

I hope I'm not the only person surprised to learn that these violas can, contrary to their appearance, cope with such dry conditions - but then again, perhaps I am - my lack of knowledge about such plants is awful   :-[ :'(

Charming shots of these photogenic little plants, Robert, thank you.

Yes, both of these Viola species grow with the most brutal, hot and dry conditions during the summer. Of coarse, during the summer they are dormant, hiding under the ground waiting for cooler weather and the winter rains.

It is Salvia season here.

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Salvia guaranitica 'Black & Blue' tries to bloom off and on all summer, however it only starts to look good in the autumn around here.

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Salvia sinaloensis - I'm very happy to get this one blooming well again. It seem to be a heavy feeder and likes a good top dressing of humus ? - compost ? (I think that we use the word differently here in the U.S.A.) each season. Very small and compact for a Salvia with attractive foliage and wonderful flowers each autumn.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: K-D Keller on September 23, 2014, 06:47:02 AM
September pictures 1

Lithops dorotheae, Cyclamen rohlfsianum, Arum pictum, Crinum moorei
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: K-D Keller on September 23, 2014, 06:48:37 AM
September pictures 2

Biarum marmarisense, Gentiana sino-ornata-hyb, Sternbergia lutea

First small flower of Biarum marmarisense since a long time. It seems that I´am on the right way now.


 
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on September 23, 2014, 07:07:20 AM
Yes, both of these Viola species grow with the most brutal, hot and dry conditions during the summer. Of coarse, during the summer they are dormant, hiding under the ground waiting for cooler weather and the winter rains.

Robert, 
I agree with Maggi - nice little charmers! Would you please add in addition something about winter temperatures minima?

Thanks in advance.

Gerd
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 23, 2014, 02:59:40 PM
Robert, 
I agree with Maggi - nice little charmers! Would you please add in addition something about winter temperatures minima?

Thanks in advance.

Gerd

Gerd,

Both Viola species grow in the 2,000 to 4,000 ft. (610 to 1,219 meters) elevation range, on the western slope of the Sierra Nevada Mountains. V. douglasii grows in the serpentine barrens with Arctostaphyllos, Pinus sabiniana, and other shrubs, perennials, bulbs, and annuals that can survive the soil environment. V. purpurea grows at the edges and openings of the dominant Oak (Quercus kelloggii) - Pine (Pinus ponderosa) forest of this elevation range. Generally wintertime low temperatures range from 20 -10 F (-6.6 to -12 C), sometimes with snow cover, sometimes without. Record low temperatures are around -17 C (0 F).
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on September 24, 2014, 06:25:54 AM
Thank you Robert for your detailed reply. According temperatures it seems these Violets would be able to survive
our winters here in western Germany but not our usually wet summer - perhaps in a sand bed.

Gerd
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 25, 2014, 03:29:01 AM
Gerd,

I was out of town for a day but did want to get back to you on this one.

For me it would be interesting to know how the violias would do in your climate. Right now I'm growing mine in large tubs with other "alpine" plants - a very quick draining, sandy mix with very little humus (like a mini sand bed). The tub does get irrigation and they seem happy. As I build up stock I will try others in a sand bed. I am having very good success with this method with other xeric California native perennials and annuals.

A few others are interested in seed and I am sure you might be interested too. Gathering wild seed is a bit problematic as timing is everything before the seed dehisces. I know of a population of both species 1/2 hour drive from the farm. For the wild plants, there is a good chance of getting the timing correct this coming spring. I bag the seed pods from the plants in the tubs. There were not many seeds this season and they have already been planted (with the start of our rainy season). I will keep you in mind for next season - May - June is the general timing for ripe seed.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on September 25, 2014, 09:11:02 AM
Robert,
Thank you very much for your interest.
I grow Vv. beckwithii, douglasii, hallii, nuttallii (also var. vallicula) and trinervata in deep pots (Long Toms) plunged in pumice gravel
in a small greenhouse. I water like it is the regime for summer dormant bulbs - i. e. only occasionally during summer, starting with
more at the beginning of September.
This works well and I lost paradoxically only Viola sheltonii, which I took for the easiest of this group. A problem
here in my garden is the position of the greenhouse. Plants have a lack of sun direct sunshine and  especially the
violets mentioned are more or less etioleted during flowering time and there is nearly no seedset.
I built a small sand bed for the eastern Viola pedata. This tricky species is covered with a sheet of glass during
the rainy months in late autumn and winter - but, not a full success. It survived but no flowers until now.
Even in this bed I planted Viola nuttallii var. vallicula which sprouted in spring 2014 but (as usual) no sign
of growth this autumn.
Thank you for offering some seeds for 2015. If you are interested (please send pm) I can collect some seeds of the rare western Viola
clauseniana
, which set seeds regularly here.

Gerd







Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 25, 2014, 02:30:40 PM
Gerd,

Thanks for your comments. I can understand the challenges you might have trying to grow Viola species - some of which grow in full sun, then bake and go dormant during the summer months. Even some of the easier west coast species can be a challenge for me, as the slugs and insects seem to like them in the open garden. Most I grow in containers, until I can create more "sand beds" that seem to work fairly well (but not always) for me.

I'll PM when I can. I enjoy growing various viola species.

Thanks again for your comments.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Robert on September 27, 2014, 02:37:23 AM
A few things I like in the garden now.

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As a little boy I grew up playing in Mr. Barrett's maize field. The sound of the dry leaves rattling in the wind brings such good feelings to me. Due to the drought I could only plant this small stand of sweet maize. Generally we plant a much larger amount of heirloom field maize. Either way I would miss the sound of the dry leaves if I didn't plant it.

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Here are some common annuals being used to fill in until the fall bulbs start coming up. In the spring I'll use native annuals such as Eschscholzia caespitosa, Lupinus benthamii and Mimulus bicolor. They look great with the spring flowing bulbs.

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More summer annuals (Zinnia, Verbena, and Salvia) where dormant bulbs are resting. There are also species thymes, oreganos and violas cascading over the rocks and a few other perennial plants. I do practice crop rotation with the annuals using different ones each season (I'm a farmer). However, some always reseed, so I do leave a few. It always makes things interesting.

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This Nicotinia was a chance seedling, reseeder this season. An F1 hybrid of some sort. I'll save the seed. It is the only plant this season, so it will be a self. The F2 could be a mess, but for me its fun. I can pull out the ones I don't like and play around with the rest.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on September 27, 2014, 06:14:30 AM
I had to go away at short notice for a few days but I was delighted to find Brugmansia sanguinea was back in bloom on my return.............
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3880/15361899972_6cb197b0dc_c.jpg)

And an unknown Echeveria..................
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3884/15170771490_ecb9206e0e_c.jpg)

A few from Sues garden;
For JohnStephen - Thunbergia gregorii has bloomed well all summer.................
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/15343115436_2df03ee113_c.jpg)

Even more remarkable is the fact that she left this tender climber out all last winter!

Her Mandevilla has been out since March when the RSM made its presence known.................
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15179541008_bd1116f8d8_c.jpg)

Her Passiflora (exoniensis? hybrid of some description)..................
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/15179605407_ec7ce335ea_c.jpg)

Nicotiana sylvestris and N.langsdorfii (both regular self seeders)....................
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3871/15366125075_e9e44bb291_c.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2942/15179540398_c73664528e_c.jpg)

Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: pehe on September 28, 2014, 07:13:13 PM
Many beautiful pics!

Empodium plicatum
Galanthus Reginae Olgae

Poul
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: brianw on October 05, 2014, 11:59:53 AM

I built a small sand bed for the eastern Viola pedata. This tricky species is covered with a sheet of glass during
the rainy months in late autumn and winter - but, not a full success. It survived but no flowers until now.

I bought 3 "tubers" of Viola pedata from J. Amands earlier this year. When they started 2 got slugged quite quickly but the other has been flowering gently for some time now. Are the other 2 lost or are there tubers still somewhere in the pot? Roots are coming out of the normal depth pot now from the growing plant. What do I expect to find when it goes dormant? Where do the tubers form in the root system, at the crown or along the roots, maybe out of the pot, how many from 1 plant?.
Not grown this before so don't know what to expect and how gently to treat the escaping roots.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on October 05, 2014, 01:34:05 PM
Brian,
Viola pedata does not form new tubers in the manner as potatoes do. The upper part of the rootstock
is thick and fleshy and from there smaller roots were sent down. When the species goes dormant (in autumn
normally) the leaves disappear and you`ll have new shoots in spring. If cultivated well the 'crown' of the plant
is able to divide. Sometimes - if there was too much moisture - this crown can rot and if you are lucky a new
upper growing point is formed.
I recommend to remove the upper part of soil and look what happened near the surface. Don't water too much
and arrange good draining.

Gerd
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gene Mirro on October 12, 2014, 09:26:20 PM
Colchicum (may be C. speciosum):

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Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 12, 2014, 09:44:11 PM
Colchicum hybrid (I don't know the name):

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What a smasher, Gene - superb clump  8)
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lori S. on October 12, 2014, 09:48:43 PM
Colchicum hybrid (I don't know the name):
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Gene Mirro on October 12, 2014, 09:58:51 PM
I may have gotten the original bulbs as C. speciosum from Jung Seed Co.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 12, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that's about right!

We saw a lovely photo of yours at the Discussion Weekend, Lori - in Stephanie Ferguson's presentation of course.   Suddenly felt like  you were right there with us!
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Lori S. on October 13, 2014, 01:31:35 AM
Absolutely stunning, Gene! 

I'm sure Stephanie's presentation was amazing - her garden certain is! 
She'd asked if I had any scenery photos a while back, looking for some natural "crevice gardens"... I can only imagine that's how a photo of mine might have got in there.  ???
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 13, 2014, 08:48:37 AM
Oh how i wish I could have seen Stephanie's presentation … after visiting her unique and magnificent garden (and Lori's equally beautiful domain, both in Calgary), we were simply stunned by the quality, diversity and breadth of the planting. Master gardeners both.
Title: Re: September 2014 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 13, 2014, 10:32:49 AM
Yes Lori, that's what it was.
It was a great presentation, Cliff, most instructive.
It seems to me that Canada is something of a hotbed of good  and imaginative gardeners and these Calgary "Gals" are in the vanguard for sure.  8)
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