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Title: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on January 02, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
Saw my first opening flower-bud of Hepatica transsylvanica 'Winterfreude' today! Our winter has been mild so far - usually they bloom later in my garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on January 02, 2014, 10:08:37 PM
I'm a little worried now. The weather is mild here too, hardly any frost so far. Many of my plants, both nobilis and transsilvanica have buds that are beginning to show colour.  What will happen when the cold comes? I can't remember having hepatica flowering this early any time before.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on January 03, 2014, 09:25:13 AM
We had this problem in January/February 2012: After very mild weather until the middle of January the temparatures dropped to -18 degrees C. Some of my Hepaticas (particularly the red filled ones) were in flower. The blooms were destroyed, but after it became milder again in the end of february new blooms appeared. None of the plants were destroyed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on January 03, 2014, 08:18:27 PM
That's good to know, Bolinopsis and if we are lucky we get a nice snow cover before the temperature drops.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Yann on January 04, 2014, 03:34:49 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Tamsa', i love this robust cultivar.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Yann on January 04, 2014, 03:36:03 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Cobalt', a well know cultivar

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Uwe on January 15, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
Hello,
i have cross follow:
 yamatutai x transsilvanica blue. I hope in few weeks these plants are in flower:
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on January 15, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
That looks very promising, Uwe. Hope we'll see some photos then!

Isn't this a sight for sore eyes?
Hepatica nobilis 'Alba Plena' (Type Schlyter) - obviously doing very well
Title: Hepatica Exhibition Munich (7. - 9. March 2014)
Post by: Auricular on January 21, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
From 7. -9. March 2014 will be the Exhibition

"Welt der Leberblümchen"
(Hepatica World)

at Munich Botanical Garden

Saturday, 8. March there are some interesting lectures about Hepatica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on January 21, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
What a lovely poster!
Thanks for posting the info.

Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on January 21, 2014, 04:18:47 PM
Uwe I've made the same cross, but I use Hepatica yamatutai marbled form. As you can see the flower is blue, like  transsilvanica and the leaf like yamatutai. I have also made a cross between Hepatica yamatutai x Cremar, I still not know how the flower look.


    Hepatica yamatutai marbled form x Hepatica transillvanica 1
    Hepatica yamatutai marbled form x Hepatica transillvanica 2
    Hepatica yamatutai marbled form x Hepatica transillvanica 3
    Hepatica yamatutai x Cremar
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on January 21, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
The first two, 2014, flowers of my own filled Hepatica nobilis cross, Both, I have made from seeds a few years ago, both with names from the Nordic mythology.

Hepatica nobilis 'Balder'
 Hepatica nobilis 'Ydun'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on January 21, 2014, 05:12:50 PM
Absolutely gorgeous, Karl! What a wonderful deep purplish blue.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Uwe on January 21, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
Very nice ,Karl!!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Garry Edwards on January 22, 2014, 02:45:56 PM

My First Hepatica of the season bought in the frost free tunnel 5 weeks ago and now flowering.

-30 this morning but at least the sun is out.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2014, 04:14:35 PM
Crumbs, Garry, just as well you included that nice  big flower to distract me or I might have fainted with the shock of  minus  30 temperatures  :P




Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on January 23, 2014, 11:48:38 AM
Balder and Ydun are lovely, Kalle.  It's freezing outside but I have one pot on my window-sill with seedlings flowering for the first time.
 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on January 23, 2014, 11:51:54 AM
Perfect photos, Gunilla!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on January 23, 2014, 12:02:55 PM
Thank you, Maggi  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on January 23, 2014, 12:25:41 PM
My First Hepatica of the season bought in the frost free tunnel 5 weeks ago and now flowering.

-30 this morning but at least the sun is out.
@ Garry: Lovely - spring will come! What species (cross) ist it? It has unusual leaves (to my badly informed european eyes...)
@ Gunilla: What wonderuful delicate shades to brighten up your house!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Uwe on January 26, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Repot when I found these roots. It is a H.nobilis Lavender and the main bud was rotten:
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on January 26, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Good Luck!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Uwe on January 30, 2014, 05:41:38 PM
1.photo: Hepatica pubescens ( Tenjenbai-Typ)
2.photo: new: Hepatica pyrenaica ( soft pink) x Hepatica Forrest Red ( japonica)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on February 02, 2014, 08:20:04 AM
It seems like everybody has some hepatica starting to bloom!  :)  Looking forward to seeing more. Most of mine are still in bud, but H. transsilvanica, H. x media and one of my seedlings from H. japonica have started to bloom recently.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on February 02, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
My seedlings from Gunilla's seeds have started to flower! The first ones ex 'Selma' are a lovely shell pink.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on February 02, 2014, 02:32:20 PM
Uwe, I think your H. pubescens is beautiful with the contrasting red center and I really like the rich pink colour of your seedling Peppa.

Lovely soft colour, Anne. I do remember sending you hepatica seeds but if the seedling is ex Selma I think the seed must have come from Gunhild. I too have seedlings from Gunhilds seeds that are going to flower for the first time and it's very, very exciting.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 02, 2014, 03:19:52 PM
Hepatica Pubescens seedling.
Hepatica  Japonica Asahizuru,
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on February 02, 2014, 09:47:48 PM
I do love the dark centre on the pubescens seedlings. I'm hoping it can be transferred into some hybrids. Has anyone tried?
Gunilla, I apologise - you are probably right.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 04, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
here are my first arrivals

GYOUSEI

YAMATUTAI

SUPERNOVA


edit by maggi - pix resized
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 06, 2014, 07:54:27 AM
Oh my, these are all heart-breakingly beautiful!
Thank you all for posting these pics,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 08, 2014, 06:53:18 PM
Gunilla your seedlings are incredibly beautiful, delicate colors and it looks like they all are virgin.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on February 09, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
Yes Kalle, three of the four seedlings in my pot had flowers without anthers, a pink, a white/pink, and a blue one. The forth seedling had normal flowers and I used it to pollinate the others.
I got the seeds from a hepatica grower in Sweden and was told that the seed was collected from a seedling of a plant called Hjelm or maybe Hjälm.  I haven't seen this plant and don't know much about it. 
The new leaves are now emerging and they also show some variation.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 09, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
Hepatica nobilis blue.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on February 09, 2014, 09:59:05 PM
A lovely strong blue colour, Michael, and with perfectly matching blue anthers. Is it perhaps a nobilis x japonica cross ?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 10, 2014, 11:33:14 AM
Hepatica nobilis blue.

Wow, a superb colour, Michael !!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on February 10, 2014, 11:39:08 AM
Looks like it might glow in the dark...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 10, 2014, 11:50:37 AM
Luc, I seem to remember you were looking a offset of that plant a couple of years ago  but I can't remember if I sent to you or not.I have a few spares now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 10, 2014, 03:08:25 PM
Luc, I seem to remember you were looking a offset of that plant a couple of years ago  but I can't remember if I sent to you or not.I have a few spares now.

I will send you a pm, Michael !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 10, 2014, 04:56:20 PM
I believe that spring has started in Denmark, today full sun and +7 degrees ;D A few  Hepatica begin to bloom in the grenhouse.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: EmmaCampanula on February 16, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
The first japanese Hepatica begin to bloom in the greenhouse:

    Hepatica jap. 'Utyuu'
    Hepatica jap. 'Orihime'

 ( edit by maggi to add photo names to text to allow search facility to find the pictures. )

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maritfri on February 20, 2014, 08:59:24 PM
Hey!

Here in the cold Norway has Hepatica blooming not started yet. But the cups are well underway so it's just to look forward :)

Here it was many temptations to see  :P

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Marit
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on February 20, 2014, 09:09:32 PM
Hi Marit!  The buds are a promise of spring soon, I hope!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maritfri on February 20, 2014, 10:10:16 PM
Hi Maggi,

All it takes is a few sunny day  :)

[attach=1]

Marit
 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on February 20, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
I love the blues. Great photo of the "fur" coat!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Melvyn Jope on February 22, 2014, 05:34:24 PM
Very happy with two Hepatica grown from seed and flowering for the first time.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Yann on February 22, 2014, 08:26:33 PM
Hepatica hybrid (lost the label)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on February 23, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Later this year (21th. January) I posted pictures of my Hepatica yamatutai marbled form x Hepatica transillvanica, the picture of the flower was not so good, so I send a new one. The plant has yamatutai leaves and transillvanica flower. I have also crossed Hepatica yamatutai marbled form x 'Crema' Everyone has yamatutai leaves and all gets pinkish flowers. Uwe you wrote that you had also crossed yamatutai x transillvanica interesting to see how the flowers look.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on February 23, 2014, 06:34:42 PM
Wonderful leaves too, Karl.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 23, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
Pictures of my Yamatutai today
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: WimB on February 23, 2014, 07:45:50 PM
Pictures of my Yamatutai today

Beautiful, John! Like a white island in a green sea  :o :o  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 23, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Some of mine getting started as well :

Hep. transsylvanica "Elison Spence"

&

Hep. transsylvanica "Blue Jewel"
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 23, 2014, 08:20:31 PM
One or two more.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 23, 2014, 08:23:47 PM
and the rest
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 24, 2014, 07:34:14 AM
and the rest

Good grief !  :o :o
I wonder how you do it John, but they do seem to get even more beautiful every year !!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: EmmaCampanula on February 24, 2014, 12:28:02 PM

Your seedlings are very interesting, kalle. I especially like the pink one.

John, your plants are breathtaking, wow!!!

Hepatica japonica 'Saichou' is in flower now.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on February 24, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
Beautiful Hepaticas, everyone!

John,
How often do you split plants?  Your large plants are very impressive.  It is not easy for me to keep them vigorous without splitting them often.

Koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on February 24, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
Gorgeous, John, Emma!  :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 24, 2014, 09:25:58 PM
Beautiful Hepaticas, everyone!

John,
How often do you split plants?  Your large plants are very impressive.  It is not easy for me to keep them vigorous without splitting them often.

Koko

I only split if the plant shows signs of going backwards.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on February 25, 2014, 05:23:51 PM
Some beautiful plants above!
This is my attempt to get a pink 'Ballardii' - H. transylvanica 'Lilacina'; x pink japonica. How do I tell if it's worked? The flowers are better than the seed parent at least.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on February 25, 2014, 07:19:20 PM
Beautiful hybrids - such delicate colours...

The colours of these two aren't so subtle. But I like the perfect structure.
(1) Hepatica nobilis 'Rosea Plena'
(2) Hepatica nobilis 'Plena' (Typ Tschechei) (= Czech Type)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on February 25, 2014, 07:37:38 PM
Beautiful, the double blue nobilis is very rare in the UK.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on February 25, 2014, 08:04:09 PM
Thank you, Anne. I feel lucky that all hepaticas thrive in my garden (the climate is just continental enough as I live east of the Rhine).

Here are a couple that are frequently discussed in Hepatica circles in Germany... definitely different!
(1) Hepatica transsilvanica 'Buis'
(2) Heptaica transsilvanica 'de Buis'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on February 25, 2014, 09:45:41 PM
Anne, I think it's lovely. I really like the soft pink colour.

Here are a couple that are frequently discussed in Hepatica circles in Germany... definitely different!
(1) Hepatica transsilvanica 'Buis'
(2) Heptaica transsilvanica 'de Buis'

The first hepatica to flower in my garden is always one named 'Buis strain' (I think it should be the same as 'de Buis').  I'm a bit confused about the naming, though and it looks more like 'Buis' on your first photo.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on February 25, 2014, 09:55:51 PM
Hepatica yamatutai in the peatgarden in the shelter and shadow of two peatblocks .......
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on February 25, 2014, 09:57:09 PM
The first hepatica to flower in my garden is always one named 'Buis strain' (I think it should be the same as 'de Buis').  I'm a bit confused about the naming, though and it looks more like 'Buis' on your first photo.

There is a lot of confusion about 'Buis', 'de Buis' and 'Buis' strain here as well...
The photo of 'de Buis' is of a plant which has been propagated by division for decades by Andreas Händel, so I assume it is correctly named. However, personally I prefer the other plant with the darker blue and white anthers - whatever its correct name....  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on February 25, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
Bolinopsis, I think our plants must be related  :D.  The Buis form I grow is also from Andreas Händel  8).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: angie on February 25, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
Good grief !  :o :o
I wonder how you do it John, but they do seem to get even more beautiful every year !!

So do I, amazing amount of flowers. I have a couple flowering in the greenhouse . Just reminds me of happy little faces.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on February 25, 2014, 10:52:36 PM
Bolinopsis, I think our plants must be related  :D.  The Buis form I grow is also from Andreas Händel  8).
Lovely! International relations!!  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on February 26, 2014, 10:34:22 AM
One or two more.

Amazing! The amount of flowers on each plant  :o. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Mavers on February 26, 2014, 04:00:26 PM
The double blue hepatica nobilis is exquisite. I saw one in the flesh last weekend & it made me want to grow one very very much   :P
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
A week of mostly sunny days and very mild temperatures has brought the hepaticas on at a rapid rate of knots and I fear it is going to be a very short season if this weather continues.Here are some more .

UN-NAMED DOUBLE
        ''                   CLOSE-UP
TAMAKUJAKU
        ''                    ''

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
NOBILIS PYRENAICA
KIMONI
MAXIMA
NOBILIS JAPONICA SEEDLING
ORIHEME (apologies for repeat but it gets better every day)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2014, 05:25:31 PM
NOBILIS ALBA
KALEIDOSCOPE IN THE HEPATICA HOUSE TODAY
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Roma on February 26, 2014, 08:26:00 PM
Wow!!! :o ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on February 26, 2014, 08:56:40 PM
Crumbs! My H. maxima has squinny little white flowers.. :-[
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Matt T on February 26, 2014, 11:38:52 PM
KALEIDOSCOPE IN THE HEPATICA HOUSE

Absolutely stunning!

The trouble with the SRGC forum is that it tempts you into wanting to grow too many gorgeous plants. So much for sticking to a few taxa :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on February 28, 2014, 03:15:40 AM
NOBILIS ALBA
KALEIDOSCOPE IN THE HEPATICA HOUSE TODAY

John, amazing! :D What an abundance of flowers!

How long can you keep the plants in the same pot? I know some people who repot after several years and trim the roots to avoid the plants getting pot bound...

Wonderful!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 28, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
John, amazing! :D What an abundance of flowers!

How long can you keep the plants in the same pot? I know some people who repot after several years and trim the roots to avoid the plants getting pot bound...

Wonderful!

I only pot-on when I feel that the plant has outgrown its pot or that the plant is not progressing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Mavers on February 28, 2014, 10:54:37 AM
What a beautiful show John.................such large plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on February 28, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
I only pot-on when I feel that the plant has outgrown its pot or that the plant is not progressing.

John,
May I ask the composition of your planting medium?
I am trying to find the good potting medium for acutilobas, americanas, japonicas, etc.
Do you use the same medium for all your Hepaticas?

Keeping japonicas healthy is not easy for me here in South East Michigan.  Summer heat and humidity as well as freezing and thawing in early spring are really hard on them.  Currently I am using mostly "kanuma" for Japonicas but it is very expensive.

Putting aside the climate differences, your recipe will help my search for better composition.

koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johngennard on February 28, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
I use the same compost for all of my hepaticas,that is equal parts of J.i. no. 3--coarse perlite--sterilised leaf-mould.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: KK-Ann Arbor on February 28, 2014, 07:45:47 PM
John,

Thank you for your response.
I will try a mix using perlite with my compost and leaf mould when I split my japonicas this year.

koko
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on March 01, 2014, 05:43:46 AM
I only pot-on when I feel that the plant has outgrown its pot or that the plant is not progressing.

Thanks John! Your hepatica looks very healthy! :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 03, 2014, 11:38:29 AM
Mild weather, a little sun and lots of new seedlings start to flower  :).

Hepatica nobilis, red.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on March 03, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
With nice leaves as well!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on March 05, 2014, 07:42:42 AM
Mild weather, a little sun and lots of new seedlings start to flower  :).

Hepatica nobilis, red.
Nice nobilis, Gunilla! I like the contrast of the pink and white stamens.

I have a few blooming currently. One is from seed and this year is the first time it has flowered (Nichirin-Zaki), and the other one is an unnamed Sandan-zaki. I tried scratching the stamens a bit in hopes of collecting some pollen, but no luck this time...  :(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Matt T on March 05, 2014, 08:03:02 AM
Nichirin-zaki is beautiful, Peppa. An absolutely stunning colour. You should be very pleased with it. Nicely photographed too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 05, 2014, 01:23:31 PM
The trouble with the SRGC forum is that it tempts you into wanting to grow too many gorgeous plants. So much for sticking to a few taxa :)
Tell me about it! So far I have resisted Crocus and Fritillaria (almost) and have only a few H.nobilis in the open garden, but my wife will confirm that I can resist anything except temptation.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Matt T on March 05, 2014, 04:33:54 PM
This spring I've acquired two Heps. That's my limit...really...honestly...!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 05, 2014, 04:49:42 PM
Here's one of David Boyd's. Seedlings.  He gave me a handful to plant a couple of years ago.  This one looked quite nice last year so I've been keeping an eye on it.  Not sure what sp. it comes from but it's a bit different to the rest in the garden....
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on March 05, 2014, 04:57:53 PM
Nice Chris. I'm really hopeless with Hepaticas and manage to kill them every time I try.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
Are you killing them David, or are the slugs and snails chomping them into oblivion?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on March 05, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
No, I think it's me. (Killing them not chomping them)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 05, 2014, 07:19:35 PM
Today's discoveries in the garden:

Hepatica 'Purple Forest Hybrid'
Hepatica transilvatica 'Supernova'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gerdk on March 05, 2014, 07:54:14 PM
Nice Chris. I'm really hopeless with Hepaticas and manage to kill them every time I try.

David - willl it be a comfort when I tell you that you are not alone???
This season I'll start attempt no. 77,  this time with Hepatica nobilis 'Tausendschön' because there was an article
where it was stated that some new cultivars are better suited to garden conditions.

Gerd
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 05, 2014, 08:11:08 PM
I've never pampered them - David Boyd grows them under a privet hedge so I reckoned I would be able to grow them.  Main thing seems to be that they have to be in shade in summer and free draining soil for the nobilis anyway.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 05, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
And they like it dry in summer - not totally dry of course. If growing them in GB I would plant them on the eastern side of some structure (or a privet hedge...) and beneath a lightly shading shrub.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 05, 2014, 09:04:39 PM
I think we do better on the eastern side of the country where there is often less rainfall.  I do keep some in pots and when I've had them in too rich a soil and watering more frequently than they get in the ground they don't do as we'll and I have been known to kill them too!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on March 06, 2014, 09:48:06 AM
Ah! So it's not me. Too wet and a very rich soil in my garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 06, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
And they like some frost during winter...  :-\
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on March 06, 2014, 04:56:32 PM
David - willl it be a comfort when I tell you that you are not alone???

You have provided me with consolation Gerd ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: julibrissin on March 07, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
Hello!
I'm a new member. (Hungary)
The English language is hard for me. Translate I use. I hope you understand. I apologize to you, if you become can not be understood.
I love the Hepatica. I would like them to propagate from seed, plants and pitch well. I ask for your help as to where I can buy fresh seeds. I've eaten a lot of Helleborus grown from seed. If someone is interested welcome to show them. They are, however, not to the plants. The sowing similar seeds. Now I want to try Hepatica. Of course, you have a few plants, but I want more variety (color) to grow. Send a private message is very welcome for the help. I would like to request a web page, which is reliable seeds, seedlings can buy. Of course, no little seed, seedling, and I need.
Thank you to be here.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
Hello "julibrissin" ! I hope members can help to get you some hepatica seed .

 We can see some of your helleborus here : https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.102457649787229.5507.100000689825243 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.102457649787229.5507.100000689825243)    :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: julibrissin on March 07, 2014, 03:50:03 PM
Hello Maggi!
Thank you very much. I did not want to do because I was afraid. We strictly to the rules of the forum. Unfortunately, images difficult for me to do here. Thank you bet. Of course, paying for the seeds. We Hungary is not available.
So I can show you. Here are some pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/laszlo.szakszon (https://www.facebook.com/laszlo.szakszon)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 07, 2014, 04:19:24 PM
Welcome Juli!   Love your hellebores.  Sorry I cannot help with your seed question but maybe someone here will be able to.  We sometimes have Hepatica seed in our seed exchange but they are much sought after and they often get taken by our donors who get first chance at seed.  You have to be a member to participate in the seed exchange though.  Anyway. You are right to ask for fresh seed as most ranunculaceae grow best from fresh seed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Roma on March 07, 2014, 10:53:10 PM
Hepatica nobilis double red
A nice blue from Ashwood seed
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2014, 08:07:43 AM
Lovely Roma...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: angie on March 08, 2014, 09:00:47 AM
Really nice Roma, like the ash wood seed one. I have been enjoying my hepaticas in the greenhouse. I only put them there that I could enjoy the flowers without getting soaked  ;D

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 08, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica x pubescens  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 08, 2014, 05:52:42 PM
Beautiful colour, Kalle. An excellent cross!

A new flower in today's sunny garden: Hepatica x euroasiatica 'Prof. Friedrich Hildebrandt' (Hep. nobilis var. pubescens x Hep. transsilvanica)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ichristie on March 09, 2014, 05:04:35 PM
Hello. my Hepaticas are late to flower this year then all are coming together I do love them all so will post several pictures taken today, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ichristie on March 09, 2014, 05:07:09 PM
Next lot
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 09, 2014, 06:25:21 PM
Stunningly beautiful, Ian!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: julibrissin on March 09, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 09, 2014, 07:37:43 PM
Hi Ian
Did you grow the 'no name' ones from seed?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ichristie on March 09, 2014, 08:17:01 PM
 y most are from seed with a few in the beginning from John Massey at Ashwood nurseries then I had some from the great Kath Dryden with a special Hepatica transsylvanica which I now post with a few others, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 09, 2014, 08:33:24 PM
I'm going to have to grow more from seed... Lots of natural seedlings in the garden ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Mavers on March 10, 2014, 01:38:48 PM
You have some wonderful hepaticas Ian.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on March 11, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
Hepatica nobilis as I have made from seeds. The pictures is from today and I am busy, try to make some more. This year there is also 2 filled rosea. I call them: x63-2 x63-8 x63-10
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ichristie on March 11, 2014, 06:38:06 PM
Wow fantastic seedling I have something like those but never get seed, I post a few more form the cold glasshouse today, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ichristie on March 11, 2014, 06:40:30 PM
A few more all starting to flower together need to do some pollinating.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Matt T on March 11, 2014, 06:44:54 PM
That alba is lovely Ian. Very simple and delicate looking.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: EmmaCampanula on March 12, 2014, 03:13:13 PM

The filled H. nobilis are all beautiful, kalle!

What an abundance of flowers, Ian.  :D

The first flowers of Hepatica japonica 'Kimon'

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 17, 2014, 08:49:46 PM
H. nobilis 'Flore Pleno' (Czech type) almost over now - while the Swedish type (Schlyter) is only just raising its buds...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 18, 2014, 12:58:14 PM
H. nobilis 'Flore Pleno' (Czech type) almost over now -
:o
..but still stunning!
thanks for sharing,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 20, 2014, 07:47:40 AM
I have this one still in a pot but lost the label.  Can anyone confirm as H. transylvanica pl?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 20, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
Yes, that is definitely Hepatica transilvanica (i, not y as those old romans didn't have a y  ;))
If it is a large in flower and leaf it might be 'Harvington Beauty'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 20, 2014, 06:27:26 PM
Here is my present favourite - Hepatica nobilis 'Alba Plena' (probably originates from Severin Schlyter). I expected this plant to be tricky - but it is quite happy under the Styrax tree and produced 8 flowers this year.

Last year there was no pink blush to the petals. Maybe this depends on the weather conditions?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 20, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
Thanks Boli  .... I'll get a label in right away....
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 20, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Last year there was no pink blush to the petals. Maybe this depends on the weather conditions?

If your white nobilis is the same as mine I think the flowers will turn white in a weeks time or so. The pink blush varies from year to year but the flowers usually end up completely white.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 21, 2014, 11:02:55 AM
Thank you, Gunilla! I'll watch out for the colour change. What is the origin of your plant?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 21, 2014, 12:30:38 PM
I am told it was found on Öland. It has rather long weak flower stalks and the flowers are big. It seems to be a robust, hardy plant. I grow it outside in my garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 21, 2014, 03:00:57 PM
Ah yes! That variety of 'Alba Plena' is mentioned in Händel's new book.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 21, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
It is ? I'm struggling my way through the German text little by little. The photos are beautiful and the book well worth the struggle.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 22, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
Page 68. (I'm glad I don't have to learn German - I'd hate it...  ;D)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 22, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
 ;D Thanks.

Some new seedlings flowering today.

1. H. nobilis, very dark pink/red form with dark marbled foliage.
2. H. nobilis, a difficult colour to describe, almost salmon pink.
3. H. nobilis pyrenaica
4. H. nobilis, blue and white, from Finland.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 23, 2014, 06:08:04 PM
That Finnish beauty is gorgeous! As are your seedlings.
Indeed, many of the seedlings of forumists in this thread (Ian's!!) are really special and better than many a named cultivar, I feel.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: fleurbleue on March 24, 2014, 10:41:00 AM
The third is so cute
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2014, 06:20:06 AM
I love all Gunilla's Hepaticas. :)
Where from Finland is the last one, is it in cultivation?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 25, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
Leena - It was found in Finland 2004 but I don't know where. The man who found it calls it "Finnish flag".  Photos of the original plant show that it has blue stripes and patches. I don't know if it still is in cultivation.  Mine is seed raised (2009). I have a few tiny seedlings but they grow very slowly and there is only one flower.   

A few more seedlings flowering today:
 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
Thank you Gunilla, it is like Finnish flag, blue and white. :)
I have never heard of it's type here. We have some wild Hepatica nobilis in our woods (back of the house), there are different pink ones as well as blue, but i will have to look more carefully if there are striped ones.
Hepatica nobilis is still in bud here, but it will flower in April.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 02:42:24 PM
It's great that we can see flowering favorite plants and gardens and in other countries;) 
Colleagues, thank you for pleasure. :)

We weather varies from -10 to 20 for a few days ...
Hepatica are just beginning to bloom. Here are the first flowers.

 1. Hepatica nobilis f. -  Color light blue and white to the edge in the middle
 2.  Hepatica nobilis f. pale-pink
 3.  Hepatica maxima
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 26, 2014, 08:54:05 AM
Lovely flowers, Gunilla and Natalia!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Mavers on March 26, 2014, 09:24:48 AM
The double blues are especially stunning.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 27, 2014, 06:41:47 PM
You were right, Gunilla, the flower of H. n. 'Alba Plena' matured to white (with mud splatters from the last rain),
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on March 28, 2014, 04:53:41 AM
It is perfect! A little piece of art :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on March 28, 2014, 06:34:33 AM
Hepatica nobilis var. acuta 'Louise Koehler'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 28, 2014, 10:32:20 AM
Hepatica nobilis var. acuta 'Louise Koehler' is a super plant and that first portrait is  soooo atmospheric
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on March 28, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
Lip smackingly, chin droolingly nice
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 28, 2014, 12:15:46 PM
Indeed!  :o An elegant diva!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on March 29, 2014, 02:23:40 AM
Thanks for your nice comments!

'Louise' looks very elegant, and even better, she is weatherproof - she stands up beautifully even after getting hit with all of our NW rain.  ;D)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: arisaema on March 29, 2014, 09:05:41 AM
Hepatica henryi and a relative, Asteropyrum peltatum, on Xiling Xueshan earlier today.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2014, 12:48:14 PM
Asterypyrum peltatum ?  Never heard of it  - help?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: arisaema on March 29, 2014, 12:56:26 PM
Asterypyrum peltatum ?  Never heard of it  - help?

Sorry, got a letter wrong  :P

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007529 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007529)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
Sorry, got a letter wrong  :P

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007529 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007529)

I'm sorry too, should have twigged that - felling ghastly and sure I'm dying - Ian suggests I "simply have a cold"  but  what does he know - he can't even see me for the boxes of tissues......
 :P

If I were firing on more cylinders I'd have remembered  this :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5244.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5244.0)    :-[
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: arisaema on March 29, 2014, 01:14:18 PM
I'm sorry too, should have twigged that - felling ghastly and sure I'm dying - Ian suggests I "simply have a cold"  but  what does he know - he can't even see me for the boxes of tissues......

Ugh, I'm sorry! The traditional cure for that here in China is a hot soup made with pears and Fritillaria bulbs (about 10 or so to a bowl), next time he says "simply a cold" you may try mentioning that...  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2014, 01:36:22 PM
Ugh, I'm sorry! The traditional cure for that here in China is a hot soup made with pears and Fritillaria bulbs (about 10 or so to a bowl), next time he says "simply a cold" you may try mentioning that...  ;)
Great info!
 Got plenty pears here  and have mentioned to him that  F. chitralensis is considered particularly efficacious .... all of a sudden  he seems  anxious to  get between me and his frit house......
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 29, 2014, 05:24:57 PM
Get well soon, Maggi!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2014, 05:38:10 PM
Get well soon, Maggi!
Thanks, Anne - it's just a cold! (and a  great excuse to moan and be grumpy !!)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 29, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
It is awful when you cannot breathe through your nose...
 
My last hepatica to bloom - specially for you, Maggi. I is a filled blue one of Swedish origin. Unfortunately my camera doesn't show that it is a very deep violet blue. (Almost like 'Maria Theresia')
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peppa on March 30, 2014, 05:20:53 AM
Arisaema, Asteropyrum peltatum, and H. henryi are pretty! I didn't know about Asteropyrum peltatum until you posted this picture and I'd better be careful not to get tempted into wanting my new discovery!  :P

Maggi, hope you feel better soon! You can also make soup with Fritillaria and lilium mixed together for more power! ;)

Bolinopsis, that is a very pretty one! You must be very proud! :) I know how hard it is to capture the ture colors... My camera tends to show more blue when I take a picture of purple flowers...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ChrisB on March 30, 2014, 03:29:40 PM
I've never pampered them - David Boyd grows them under a privet hedge so I reckoned I would be able to grow them.  Main thing seems to be that they have to be in shade in summer and free draining soil for the nobilis anyway.
Ref the above from an earlier post Mr Boyd points out his hedge is NOT privet but a deciduous one which allows the plants to get some light and moisture through the winter months.  Sorry David I should have known you'd not have privet!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 03, 2014, 09:54:20 AM
Hi I bought my first two hepaticas recently, a variety of h. Nobilis from Germany & a variety of h. Japonica. I know the nobilis should be ok, but will the japonica survive outside in uk?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 04, 2014, 07:17:28 AM
I wouldn't risk the japonica outside, I think that most people would give them some form of protection. Partly to ensure that the early emerging flowers look their best, and probably to appreciate the flowers better, especially as you probably paid £xxx.xx for it!
It allows you to control the watering better - plenty of water and light in the spring, less water and fairly heavy shade during the summer.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 04, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
Hi Peter thanks for the advice, I did't pay much for it only a couple of pounds at the cyclamen society show sale table at the weekend. Is it best grown in the greenhouse under the staging?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 05, 2014, 12:40:35 AM
I keep mine in plunge beds so they're 'on top of the staging' - underneath is very dark, I don't know what's lurking down there.  ;)
However they are shaded as are the other plants with outside shade netting when/if we start to get some sunshine, then when the flowers are finished there is a second layer of shading put in place inside the glazing for the plunge bed where the hepaticas are. They seem to like those conditions.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Jonny_SE on April 07, 2014, 09:27:07 PM
A new one flowering for the first time here Hepatica nobilis "Black Eyes" I really like this one  :) half and fully open.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on April 07, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
Thanks for the advice Peter
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
From Al Elliott at  RBGE : Hepatica falconeri evolutionary link between Hepatica & Anemone collected in Kyrgystan on  a Botanics expedition

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Mavers on April 10, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
I've never seen that before Maggi.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on April 10, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
It's a very interesting plant - very rare.

Description in Flora of Pakistan is under Anemone :http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250097043

This paper : Morphology, Phenology and Cytology of Hepatica falconeri in Pakistan
Mikinori Ogisu, M. Rashid Awan, Tomoo Mabuchi and Yuki Mikanagi
Kew Bulletin
Vol. 57, No. 4 (2002), pp. 943-953  ( available online free  via registration) - this page shows the beginning of the article,  which shows tha M. Ogisu et al regard it as belonging more  in the genus Hepatica. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4115724?uid=3738032&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21103644977311 (http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4115724?uid=3738032&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21103644977311)

Harry Jans has described this plant as one of the most special he saw on this trip to Kyrgyzstan  : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9843.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9843.0)
So much to learn about this plant, eh?

Forumist Glenn Shapiro, who has a National Collection, has mentioned it too : http://www.hazelwoodfarm.co.uk/LHSArticle.htm (http://www.hazelwoodfarm.co.uk/LHSArticle.htm) - she may be able to tell more.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gerry on April 10, 2014, 07:59:53 PM
A new one flowering for the first time here Hepatica nobilis "Black Eyes" I really like this one  :) half and fully open.

That's very nice. Are the flowers small in 'real life'?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gunilla on April 12, 2014, 05:30:28 PM
Are the flowers small in 'real life'?

Not very small.

Hepatica nobilis alba plena from Öland
Hepatica nobilis "Black Eye"
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Gerry on April 12, 2014, 09:49:25 PM
Nice contrast.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: annew on April 13, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
Two stunning flowers - I look forward to more double Nobilis being available in the UK.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: hwscot on May 21, 2014, 06:42:03 AM
Can someone say what is the form with Hepatica seed r.e. the seed exchange? Is there a way of keeping them viable long enough to send in or do people just distribute spare at this time of year. I have a hundred or so from a nice deep pink form of H. nobilis. Nothing rare or special but grows well in the garden. Happy to post. Have cross-posted to seedy subjects. MMC.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ichristie on June 06, 2014, 07:22:14 AM
I have sent seed in a poly bag mixed with damp perlite usually once it is ripe and have saved some for a week or so seems to work but not sure how long you could keep it probably rot after a while, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Diane Clement on June 06, 2014, 11:18:01 AM
Can someone say what is the form with Hepatica seed r.e. the seed exchange? Is there a way of keeping them viable long enough to send in or do people just distribute spare at this time of year.
The AGS and SRGC have been distributing damp packed hepatica seed with the main distribution for the last few years.  The best conditions if you are donating is to put them with some damp vermiculite into a zip lock bag.  They will not harm or rot at this stage, as long as they are above about 12C, i.e don't put them in the fridge!  In nature they would at this point be experiencing damp summer woodland conditions which they need for a few weeks.  As soon as  they are put in the cold the radicle will start to develop and then the rot could start if they are not sown quite quickly.  I have personally repacked all AGS damp packed hepatica and other ephemeral seed, to ensure they are still kept relatively warm at this stage (November), and I repack them into small zip locks then into glassine envelopes for the distribution.  I put a message on the back of the packet to alert the receiver that the seed needs to be sown immediately into cold conditions in December and January.  With a few that I have trialled from this process, I have had quite good germination with hepaticas and others ephemerals, although sometimes they have taken another year to germinate. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on October 14, 2014, 10:26:08 PM
I picked up this new hepatica at the weekend, Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica. Can anyone tell me if it is hardy in the uk? Thanks John

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3941/15538379492_3ce012692a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pF5fSG)Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica (https://flic.kr/p/pF5fSG) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Ulla Hansson on October 15, 2014, 06:13:38 AM
It is hardy outside in Sweden, so it should be hardy outside in England.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Susann on October 15, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
I think it should not be any problem even though they grow at high altitudes in the Pyreenes and Cordillera Cantibrica/Picos de Europa. I have grown them for many years in a garden with very rainy and "non-winterish" winters. Surviving in an area with good snow cover is no problem at all, that is what they are used to. I have seen them flower as late as late June at 1 600 m. It might be an interesting detail to know that Spanish botanist do not use the var/ssp pyrenaica but simply call them H nobilis.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on October 15, 2014, 07:59:01 PM
Hi Ulla & Susann thanks for the advice, I'll get it planted out at the weekend and see how it fares over the winter. That's interesting about the name Susann, I have seen it listed as Hepatica Pyrenaica without any mention of nobilis. Different people know plants by various names, like cyclamen hederifolium or purpurascens for instance, in catalogue's I've seen them listed as neapolitanum & europaeum which are the old names for these plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Jupiter on October 15, 2014, 08:34:27 PM

Who here thinks Hepatica should be included in the genus anemone? I see Hepatica nobilis described as Anemone hepatica, and the other Hepaticas just called Anemone, doing away with the whole genus.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on October 16, 2014, 06:08:43 PM
Hi Jupiter I've seen pulsatilla been described the same way eg pulsatilla vulgaris = anenome vulgaris. In answer to your question, no I don't, it & pulsatilla should be left alone.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: kalle-k.dk on October 18, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
I upload pictures of new Hepatica nobilis filled cross as I made from seeds, One of them is Hepatica nobilis x 63-16 as you also can see a picture of here. See others on my website: http://kalle-k.dk/Mine%20egne%20Hepatica%20krydsninger-My%20own%20Hepatica%20cross.htm (http://kalle-k.dk/Mine%20egne%20Hepatica%20krydsninger-My%20own%20Hepatica%20cross.htm)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on October 18, 2014, 06:39:16 PM
Very good blue, Karl.  8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Guff on October 19, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
Are these Hepatica seedlings?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: ashley on October 19, 2014, 04:54:40 PM
Could be, although the prominent veins might suggest hellebores too. 
Here are H. nobilis seedlings:
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: Guff on October 19, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
Not Hellebore seedlings. I had planted Hepatica seeds where these seedlings are, not sure what type they were, have forgotten. Thanks for the help.

I did a trade so these could be Hepatica Acutiloba seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2014
Post by: johnstephen29 on December 16, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
On a recent family trip to ironbridge in Shropshire, I decided as it was not too far away to pay a visit to ashwood nursery, there I picked up this loverly little hepatica americana which as you can see has started to give me some loverly little early flowers in time for Christmas.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7502/16032591911_0aab4c938c_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/16032591911/)
Hepatica americana (https://www.flickr.com/photos/126223196@N05/16032591911/) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
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