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Title: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 17, 2013, 11:56:09 PM
Don't know if Maggi will want to add "in the South Hemisphere" to the title - but I can't add these pics to the current "spring flowering Narcissus" thread obviously!
I received this as Narcissus serotinus but I'm presuming it's what we are now supposed to N. obsoletus.
Flowering on very short stems - possibly because they were recently repotted and kept under shade-cloth.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 26, 2013, 11:56:49 PM
A second pot of narcissus obsoletus is in flower now - the first still has a bloom or two opening!
No sign of Narcissus viridiflorus yet.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Rogan on March 27, 2013, 05:54:46 AM
A very nice pot-full indeed, Fermi! I have not managed to achieve success with this species yet; either my climate doesn't suit it or I don't know how.   :-[
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Gerdk on March 27, 2013, 09:09:30 AM
Fermi, thanks for these autumn flowers in (my) spring. Looking much better in sufficient
sunlight!

Gerd
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 27, 2013, 09:32:21 AM
No sign of 'grass' in my pots of seedlings yet.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Kees Green on April 08, 2013, 10:47:41 AM
Hi everyone.
I missed my daffs over the last season.
Settled in Melbourne now and just bought some standard hoops at The Big W from memory, might have been Target.
Its nice to have something anyway.
Cant wait for the pictures this season.
Regards
Kees
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2013, 11:06:36 AM
Hello Kees,
 Great to hear from you that you are getting settled in Melbourne.   Wishing you the very best, as ever.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 10, 2013, 12:57:59 AM
Hope to catch up soon, Kees!
Narcissus viridiflorus has started flowering here at last!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 10, 2013, 02:49:36 AM
No sign of mine yet.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Gail on April 10, 2013, 06:38:28 AM
That is an impressive clump Fermi. Does the scent travel all round the garden?
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 10, 2013, 09:10:22 AM
That is an impressive clump Fermi. Does the scent travel all round the garden?
Not in the chilly hours of the morning when I took the pic! ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 10, 2013, 10:00:12 AM
Getting chilly here too Fermi. Had to drive my son James to hockey training at 6.15 yesterday morning and it was 10oC on the car thermometer! :o Only got up to 23oC during the day too. I think Narcissus viridiflorus flowers in late October/November in its native Spain. We are on the same latitude more of less, but in the southern hemisphere, so that would make it flowering end of April/May here. We still haven't had any meaningful rain, and these chilly nights are cloudless.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Gerdk on April 10, 2013, 11:24:53 AM
Narcissus viridiflorus has started flowering here at last!
cheers
fermi

Fermi,
Looking at your plants it seems the species does better in your region than in its homeland
Spain.

Gerd
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: annew on April 10, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Great clump of viridiflorus, Fermi!
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 16, 2013, 02:42:12 PM
Just recieved a note to say that Trevanion Daffodils' website is up and running with a new catalogue : trevaniondaffodils.com.au (http://trevaniondaffodils.com.au)
Just put in an order and hope it arrives before we leave for Prague!!! Sorry that you won't be able to order from overseas, but it's worth a look at the breeding if you like tazettas!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Kees Green on April 17, 2013, 12:16:12 PM
Hi Fermi
Are there any other good places to get hoops and miniatures around Melbourne or Aussie in general.
Any help is appreciated.
Ta
Kees
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 22, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
My Narcissus viridiflorus are just beginning to open. Last year I had one flowering bulb. This year it looks as if all seven of my bulbs will flower. Interestingly, last year I used pollen to dust flowers of Narcissus papyraceus, but there is no sign of leaves of this one yet!
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Rogan on April 25, 2013, 10:13:12 AM
I recently had a 'pot' of N. serotinus flowering for the first time (yes, I know I'm not the best Narc. cultivator, ever...), now I see ovaries starting to swell - is this species self-fertile, or am I just imagining things?   ???
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 25, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
I am not sure if N. serotinus is self -fertile or not, Rogan - but I do know that narcissus can be very "good" at swelling ovaries that then prove to be quite empty..... :'(
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 25, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
In April 2012 Bill Dijk kindly gave me two Narcissus viridiflorus bulbs. The larger one produced a single flower in June that year. This year those bulbs have multiplied and will produce 9 flowering stems. You can see the pot at the front of the pic showing some of my pots of seedlings. I'll take a better pic when they are all out. I have twiddled with their bits to try and produce some seeds.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 29, 2013, 02:04:59 AM
Here is my pot of Narcissus viridiflorus today. Nine flowering stems. A tenth is just poking through the gravel. Time will tell if this is the token leaf! Not bad from the two bulbs planted a year ago. 8)
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: ArnoldT on April 29, 2013, 04:10:20 AM
Very nice Anthony.

How's the scent?
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 29, 2013, 06:14:17 AM
They're outside so I can't smell a thing unless I stick my nose into them. Then it's sickly sweet.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: ArnoldT on April 29, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
I feel it smells like warm vinyl.  Not all that pleasant to my nose.
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 29, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
I'm afraid I sold all my vinyls so I can't warm them to compare. ;D
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on June 07, 2013, 03:57:44 AM
I've posted pics of 'First Stanza' here:http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9881.75 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9881.75)
at reply #89.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Rogan on June 07, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
Maggi and all,

"I am not sure if N. serotinus is self -fertile or not, Rogan - but I do know that narcissus can be very "good" at swelling ovaries that then prove to be quite empty....."  

My single flower promptly set several big, fat, shiny black seeds - these I have planted and hopefully they will prove to be fertile; a pot full, rather than a single bloom would be a great boon  8)
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Rogan on July 17, 2013, 08:20:51 AM
Yes! they are germinating, and probably 100%  8)
Title: Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus - in the South Hemisphere 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 17, 2013, 10:03:39 AM
Narcissus serotinus does germinate quickly. I have a potful of N. obsoletus seedlings.
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