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Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: Maren on October 31, 2011, 06:06:29 PM
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Hi,
at the Autumn Meeting of the Hardy Orchid Society at Capel Manor Horticultural College, I managed to pick up this lovely Habenaria rubens - seven stems with three or more flowers on each and more buds to open. I'm in love ;) ;) ;)
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Not one I know, Maren... what a cracker of a plant you've got there!
The flower shape and colour is charming and the foliage is so nicely marked..... a good addition to your collection, I reckon.
Does the foliage vary with age or is there more than one clone in the pot?
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As far as I know, they all came out of the same seed capsule, it's my photography that isn't too true to the real colour. And you are right, the flowers start out quite pink and then get lighter as they age.
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A good time for some Habenarias. Here is H. rhodochila, a little cracker. The colour is hot.
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Very nice Maren. I particularly like the orange one.
I don't know much about Habenaria's and assumed they were all white.
I tried one a few years ago but it disappeared.
Graham
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Pretty daft time for these two to be in flower
Ophrys lutea
Orchis papilionacea (yes I know the name has changed but I have not)
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I'm intrigued! :)
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That's remarkable. :)
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such beauties!
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Tony hope you can keep them green enough to produce a new tuber
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three more out at the moment
Orchis morio
Orchis anatolica
Ophrys lutea
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Really nice Tony 8)
Angie :)
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Lovely plants Tony, espcially the Orchis morio.
Aren't they a little early/very late in flowering? My Ophrys are only just showing a bit of greenery above the top-dressing, and it is Hogmanay, they should be out celebrating, not flowering! ;D
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Peter
the lutea is only about a month early but that morio flowered in mid march last year. The papilonacea flowered in April last year. They are not at their best because of lack of light but I cannot hold them back.
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They are not at their best because of lack of light but I cannot hold them back.
By 'eck in must be warm down in Lancashire. ;D ;D ;D
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Peter
the lutea is only about a month early but that morio flowered in mid march last year. The papilonacea flowered in April last year. They are not at their best because of lack of light but I cannot hold them back.
That's certainly my kind of thing Tony , very nice. I never get them in flower that early even with the warmer winter we have at the moment ...
I see some tiny flowering stems but I think I have to wait for another couple of months ...
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Another one flowering very early.
Ophrys fusca ssp atlantica
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Tony are they kept indoors.
Angie :)
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Angie
they are grown in a small plunge bed in the greenhouse with a heating cable that keeps them just frost free. I have built a box covered with bubble wrap that sits over them. The lid opens and I close it if we have frost. A bit basic but effective.
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Angie
they are grown in a small plunge bed in the greenhouse with a heating cable that keeps them just frost free. I have built a box covered with bubble wrap that sits over them. The lid opens and I close it if we have frost. A bit basic but effective.
I thought they would have been more tender than this. Now can I find space ::) ;D
Angie :)
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Very nice Tony, do you have the heating cable running all the time or only when a frost is forecast?
Angie depends on the species on how much frost they can withstand, it mainly being to wet with a frost that will kill them. The art is to keep the soil just damp through out the winter.
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Neil
clearly I am an artist!
The cable is on a thermostat set at 4c at 2inches down in the sand. Last year ice formed on the inside of the lid and the big problem is condensation. If they get too dry then they start to go dormant but too moist and they rot.Keeping the foliage dry and the roots moist is the answer .I trickle water down the side of the pot when I think they need watering.
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Oh yes condensation the big killer, it drips down into the middle of the rosette and the spells the death for the orchid. I've lost a few because of this.
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A couple of pictures of Pterostylis curta in flower now.
This was a gift and the first time of flowering. I do not know if it is very late but it has grown long and very leggy
Also an Ophrys lutea out at the moment
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Ophrys lutea ...... that lower flower is very shy... the others seem happier to be photographed ;)
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Tony i am sure that is very early for curta it normally flowered for me in the spring.
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Tony i am sure that is very early for curta it normally flowered for me in the spring.
I agree - when I had it before it always flowered in March.
By the way - if you want to be sure of the identity look at the flower face on; if the lip has a pronounced twist to one side it is curta. I think I can detect this in your first picture. It does pass this on to the hybrids but the twist is not quite as pronounced. Subjective I know...
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Tony i am sure that is very early for curta it normally flowered for me in the spring.
David it is the one you gave to me and the second one is in bud. It has been very mild so perhaps that has influenced it.
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Tony i am sure that is very early for curta it normally flowered for me in the spring.
David it is the one you gave to me and the second one is in bud. It has been very mild so perhaps that has influenced it.
Tony,I agree from what i have seen in flower early so far that is very early,i think as long as you keep them green and not allowed to go into dormancy they should be fine and grow as per normal next season(as long as we have a normal winter next year).Having got into growth early might even have benefits,they might produce more and better tubers.
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I have nothing that its even showing a bud and my winter has been even milder. The lowest its got in the greenhouse its 5°C and we have only just had our first frost on Friday morning, and that was very light but according to the thermometers I've got it was 2°C
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But Neil, I suspect that it's not just the mild autumn / winter which has made Tony's plants flower so early, but the cool summer evenings which possibly prompted them to start growing early. As per last year I'm a few weeks behind Tony, but in general my collection is way ahead of last year. However as some Ophrys were up in August this is to be expected. I suspect that in the warmer climate "down sarf" your plants started much later.
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I agree. I also think that the very warm spring made my summer-dormant plants (bulbs as well as orchids) go dormant earlier so by the time that cool august arrived they had already had a long enough rest and all evidence suggested autumn had arrived so up they popped. My collection, like yours Steve, is several weeks ahead of 'normal' timing. Oddly just a few plants (e.g. Corybas) have been totally unaffected and will flower in feb as they usually do.
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My Corybas diemenicus, which used to be your Corybas, Darren, started flowering a week ago. I am dead chuffed. ;D ;D ;D
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Delighted it is flowering for you Maren :) - I can see buds on mine but they a week or so off flowering yet.
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I have never grown these before but i think this Changnienia is also early in my cool greenhouse.
The bulb was planted aug 2011 and the leaves where there from september.
The lowest temp this winter sofar was 4C.
jan
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I thought I remembered this tiny orchid being on display once at the SRGC Early Bulb display but I cannot find the link right now..... I did however, find this, from the late Hans Hoeller:
Changnienia amoena
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4999.msg144787#msg144787 pix
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4999.msg145178#msg145178 notes
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That's really nice Jan.
Something I would like to grow if I had the right situation.
Graham
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Jan beautiful plant,I have the dark leaved form but have not managed to flower it yet. I do not find it goes completely dormant but new leaves form as the old ones wither.
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Graham
I have very little experience with this plant,but it seems a frostfree greenhouse is enough.
Toni,
I heard from a relation in China that these plants are found with Camellia's, so i planted my (pseudo)bulbs in limefree McInnes loam and grit and indeed i had a result, i have some more bulbs which also have made leaves, a bit smaller but hopefully they flower next year,they will stay in the same pot in case there is any mycorrhizal fungi activity.
jan
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Also a bit more info here
http://web.archive.org/web/20080117172404/http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/283/27143.html?
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Jan,
congratulations, that's a really lovely flower. I have been looking for Changnienia amoeba for a long time, but cannot trace anybody who will sell them. That's such a pity because I have exactly the right conditions for it. :'(
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Jan,
that is a real beauty, I'd love to try it.
Maren if you ever find a source let me know!
On a different tack, I've just repotted two ponerorchis graminifolia that I bought from T&M maybe three years ago.
There were originally three but one didn't make it through the first season.
They seem surprisingly easy to grow and they receive the same treatment as my pleiones.
Grown in a perlite/bark/moss compost and dried off in the winter.
They sailed through last years freezing December without a problem in a cold greenhouse and this year there must be around 10 small rhizome- type furry things to repot.
How has anyone else got on with them?
Anyone know a source of named/coloured forms?
I remember Rareplants offering some a few years ago,
Regards,
David
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The only person I have seen who had them for sale was Christian Lueg at www.ground-orchids.de , may be worth asking him, even though he has listed them as sold out, he may have some available.
edited to fix broken link
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Hello,
I think that currently no one offers Changnienia for sale due to its growth-cycle (it is active now with a green leaf). In summer or early autumn it is usually available at eBay when it is dormant. It starts making a leaf in October.
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Jan,
that is a real beauty, I'd love to try it.
Maren if you ever find a source let me know!
On a different tack, I've just repotted two ponerorchis graminifolia that I bought from T&M maybe three years ago.
There were originally three but one didn't make it through the first season.
They seem surprisingly easy to grow and they receive the same treatment as my pleiones.
Grown in a perlite/bark/moss compost and dried off in the winter.
They sailed through last years freezing December without a problem in a cold greenhouse and this year there must be around 10 small rhizome- type furry things to repot.
How has anyone else got on with them?
Anyone know a source of named/coloured forms?
I remember Rareplants offering some a few years ago,
Regards,
David
I find them pretty trouble free too David. I have once been very late watering them in spring and they dried out too much and I lost some as a result. I'm very tempted to give some water very soon now for fear of it happening again! Otherwise I grow them as you do.
I have no source of named varieties though. I know Laneside had 'mixed' ones which I selected some nice ones from when I saw their display at a show one year.
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I had three of Rareplants' un-named Ponerorchis forms last spring, having been unsuccessful with the Thompson and Morgan ones the previous year. I lost two fairly quickly - poor growing technique, entirely my fault :( - but the other one had a wonderful flower. I treated it the same way as I treat my Disas, so it's fairly dry in the winter when the temperature drops, and reading the above comments, I hope it wasn't too dry this winter.
Here's what it looked like last year -
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That is a nice one Peter.
If the tubers still feel firm then all should be well. The (small) ones I lost had shrivelled and become very flaccid. The bigger ones were more resistant, having more bulk, and were fine.
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Peter very nice, not something I have tried - yet
Two more of mine in flower
Barlia robertiana in flower at about the right time
Ophrys tenthredinifera which flowered in March last year
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Having been worried that I had kept my Ponerorchis too dry over this winter, I went out and repotted the plant, to find two large plump tubers, one with a daughter tuber attached - result! :D
Incidentally the labels in the pot says that they came from Rareplants in 2010, not 2011; he's probably due to import some more soon.
Now I'm wondering what the two that died would have looked like....
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Peter very nice, not something I have tried - yet
Two more of mine in flower
Barlia robertiana in flower at about the right time
Ophrys tenthredinifera which flowered in March last year
Very,very nice Tony.
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Tony
Very nice indeed
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Peter, I bought 6 Ponerorchis from T&M last year. I potted 3 to a pot and 2 grew in each pot. Only one grew a reasonable plant. 2 of the others did not open properly. The same happened with an unexpected survivor from the previous year (erratic watering and the very cold winter). Maybe I did not water enough at the right time. I must investigate and see if any have survived this year. The last picture is the survivor from 2010.
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Hi,
I bought 9 Ponerorchis graminifolia from T&M and they all died. I also bought some at the Peterborough International Orchid show last July from a Far Eastern supplier (sorry, can't remember either the name or the country). They did rather better and I now have some nice fat tubers to be potted soon.
Jacques Amand has them in his catalogue, which came through the door yesterday, at £2.50 each or £22 per 10. You can buy a mixture or named varieties: Red Point, Purple on white and White (bulbs@jacquesamand.co.uk).
I remember Paul Cumbleton had some beauties growing in his home greenhouse. Perhaps he can be coaxed to tell us where he got them from??? :) :) :)
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Maren,
Thanks for that information, the one I pictured above from Rareplants was just a purple on white unnamed clone. Now that I know I can succeed with them, the price for 10 from Amand's looks like a definite possibility :D
Roma,
The 6 I bought from T&M were quite small tubers, so I suspect that intermittent neglect on my part - something my plants have to live with as part of their 'un-natural' selection - was the reason for their demise, the tubers were certainly quite firm and healthy when they arrived. :-\
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Re: Corybas diemenicus, finally managed a half decent picture of my little treasure. I found this a very difficult plant to photograph. The flower texture is quite stiff and waxy and causes reflections everywhere so that it appears rather murky and out of focus.
The close-up shows that the side of the upside down lip are quite transparent, as you can see the green of the leaf and the orange of the seramis shining through. The stem is 1cm long and since the compost has settled in the pot, the Corybas can lo longer look over the rim. But it's very happy and has been in flower for 2 weeks now.
Thanks again, Darren. :) :) :)
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That's looking very nice Maren.
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Re: Corybas diemenicus, finally managed a half decent picture of my little treasure. I found this a very difficult plant to photograph. The flower texture is quite stiff and waxy and causes reflections everywhere so that it appears rather murky and out of focus.
The close-up shows that the side of the upside down lip are quite transparent, as you can see the green of the leaf and the orange of the seramis shining through. The stem is 1cm long and since the compost has settled in the pot, the Corybas can lo longer look over the rim. But it's very happy and has been in flower for 2 weeks now.
Thanks again, Darren. :) :) :)
Well done Maren - that looks great. :)
Tony - I'm glad I've pretty much stopped growing the european terrestrials as I never could grow them as well as you do!
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Wicked little thing, Maren. Really beautiful.
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Thanks Darren,I seem to be having a good year at the moment but of course you never get to see the bad years!
That is lovely Marren and having seen Darren's in the flesh I am quite keen to have a go but now I realise I said that about the ponerorchis as well
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Maren your Corybas diemenenicus is so cute :)
Was think of purchasing some of these european terrestrials orchids but after reading that Darren struggling a bit what chance have I ::)
Do think they are beautiful though.
Angie :)
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Go for it Angie. I grew them better as a beginner than I do now and they gave me a lot of pleasure for a few years. I lost most of mine around the time we moved and my job relocated. Probably I was too stressed and distracted to give them my attention. Conditions here are, I think, not as good for them as in the old garden where the greenhouse did not get quite as hot and dry.
My advice is start with Ophrys as I found these much easier than Orchis/Anacamptis. This seems contrary to book advice but I'm not the only one to find this.
That said - I've now got some Orchis italica which have done OK for a couple of years - fingers crossed.
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Hi Maren,
My Ponerorchis were given to me by a friend who brought them back from Japan, so I don't have a source to suggest other than those already mentioned.
Paul
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Ponerorchis graminifolia is also offered by Orchidwubben (http://www.orchidwubben.com/) in the Netherlands. I have no experience though, never ordered there.
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Wubbens are a good nursery, I often buy plants from them at shows. They specialise in the weird and wonderful, which is very much after my own heart.
Never tried their mail order service, so can't say.
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Wow - their list is certainly impressive!
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Hi Maren!
Your orchids ( web link) are of wonderful! Congratulate. Yet forward successfully.
Send picture "of water orchid" from my garden:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P6tp0sRCR-I/T0Kow-boyQI/AAAAAAAAEzo/uqsGLGXLtOI/s800/IMG_1886.jpg)
Best regards! Zvone
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Zvone, your "water orchid" looks like Aponogeton distachyos (water hawthorn)... is it? I've never heard of the term "water orchid" before. We grow this one here too, and I find the flowers on it to be absolutely amazing, and among the most bizarre I've ever seen!
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Zvone, your "water orchid" looks like Aponogeton distachyos (water hawthorn)... is it? I've never heard of the term "water orchid" before. We grow this one here too, and I find the flowers on it to be absolutely amazing, and among the most bizarre I've ever seen!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P6tp0sRCR-I/T0Kow-boyQI/AAAAAAAAEzo/uqsGLGXLtOI/s640/IMG_1886.jpg)
Hi Lori!
It really is he: this is WATER HAWTHORN!
Therefore am also name "water orcihds" come on to quotation marks.
(I am apologising myself:Wished for am pleasantly to surprise Maren)
Best regards! Zvone
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Hello Zvone,
it is a pleasant surprise and had me confused for a very short while. ;) ;) ;)
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Hello Zvone,
it is a pleasant surprise and had me confused for a very short while. ;) ;) ;)
Hi Maren!
Beautiful things last unfortunately (washes)short! ;)
Best regards! Zvone
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I hope those of you growing Water Hawthorn have taken the chance to enjoy its lovely scent?
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I'm afraid that the water table is so low here that our pond has been virtually dry all of last year. Probably lost all of our water plants. :(. Rationing is being forecast ::)
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I'll send you a drop Ron, we've got plenty to spare ;D
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we've got plenty to spare
Same here, and they want to charge us for it now and I after spending a fortune on a new roof trying to keep it out of the house. ???
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I'll send you a drop Ron, we've got plenty to spare ;D
Need plenty here too David please. :P
Just a few little pictures of what happens when you sink an Epipactis gigantea pot in a couple of inches of gravel for a growing season.
Rampant little devil isn't it ;D
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Just a few little pictures of what happens when you sink an Epipactis gigantea pot in a couple of inches of gravel for a growing season.
Rampant little devil isn't it ;D
Crikey! I cannot establish that blasted plant while you... and others in the forum, I know, have it growing everywhere and escaping from pots >:( :'(
Harrumph! Sulk!
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A couple more in flower now
Ophrys speculum first time I have flowered it after having it several years so the season must suit it.
Two forms of Orchis morio (I know its name has changed but not in my pots)
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Fantastic plants, Tony, although I dont think the 2nd plant is O. morio (now Anacamptis morio)!
Do you try getting seeds by selfing these?
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Win
I have been and had a look at the second one again and I am quite sure it is morio.
As to seed I do not do that intentionally but if they self seed I send them of to other forum members who are interested. I am propagating them with a little success by cutting of the young tuber and hoping a second one forms. Timing seems critical.
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Tony,
you make my mouth watering :o
Please, put me on your list for the seeds!
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This one was hiding, with that colour flower it's not difficult.
MrsG spotted it with it's flower facing under the bench.
I grow it in a completely unheated greenhouse on the floor.
Cymbidium goeringii
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That is really very nice Fred. ;D. Looks to be beautifully grown, 8)
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I'm really very pleased with this. Though I can't take all the credit as I bought it in August as a dormant bulb. But it survived the winter and is just perfect. Good things come in litle packages.
There is a second flower some weeks away from this one, but then the growth started a little later also.
Now I need to get it to bulk up.
Calypso bulbosa
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Graham, can I ask where you got it? Only because I'd love to get hold of this myself!
Alex
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That is a little beauty Graham ;D ;D. Congratulations 8) 8)
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Fred that is very nice.I did not realise it was so hardy. I have just received a small plant and was keeping it frost free.
Graham that is lovely,a couple of weeks ahead of mine,do you keep it frost free,I do not?
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Graham, can I ask where you got it? Only because I'd love to get hold of this myself!
Alex
Hi Alex,
E-bay back in August. Whoever it was had quite a number over a few weeks. Think I got in early and didn't pay as much as some.
Fred that is very nice.I did not realise it was so hardy. I have just received a small plant and was keeping it frost free.
Graham that is lovely,a couple of weeks ahead of mine,do you keep it frost free,I do not?
Thanks Tony,
I did keep it frost free as I didn't want to risk it with it being my first experience. What sort of temperatures will it go down to with you?
Thanks Ron.
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Graham
we have only had about six days of frost this winter lowest -2c where it is but last year down to about -7c for a prolonged period. no damage done and the biggest problem are slugs which love them as much as we do.
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Fred that is very nice.I did not realise it was so hardy. I have just received a small plant and was keeping it frost free.
Tony, it got through the winter of 2010/11 no problem whatsoever.
Very hardy.
The flower is scented too btw :D
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Graham
we have only had about six days of frost this winter lowest -2c where it is but last year down to about -7c for a prolonged period. no damage done and the biggest problem are slugs which love them as much as we do.
Tony,
I will consider that next winter. Do you have a summer procedure for them going dormant?
I have kept mine in a saucer of about 1cm of water so no slug probem. The pot is about 15cm tall.
Graham
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I keep mine damp and cool in clay pots plunged in sand in a north facing frame all year round. No sun ever.I am now in my third year but this will hopefully be my first flowers as they are now mature enough.
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I keep mine damp and cool in clay pots plunged in sand in a north facing frame all year round. No sun ever.I am now in my third year but this will hopefully be my first flowers as they are now mature enough.
Thanks Tony,
I don't have a plunge bed but will keep it out of the sun in a north facing aspect.
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Outdoors it is still cold and i've only seen the tips of the first orchids emerge, but indoors the mediteranian orchids are flowering.
I've been growing mediteranian Ophrys and Orchis in pots for a few years now and i'm gradually getting better at it. Right now i have four in flower and several more will be flowering soon.
One of my favourites is Orchis italica:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/Orchisitalicasm.jpg)
Orchis anthropophora has proved to be fairly easy to grow for me. It has flowered every year since i got it. I've tried it outside, but that failed. I did try at the worst possible time as the winter 2010-2011 was the worst in many years here. Still, i have it in a pot:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/orchisantopophorasm.jpg)
This Orchis provincialis was one i got without a label. I'm pretty sure it is provincialis as i have another in flower.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/orchidsprovicialisusm.jpg)
Last one for now is Ophrys ferrum.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/orphrysferrumsm.jpg)
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Well done, Lars, these are not easy subjects to grow. :) :)
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Please see this thread for details of an online petition to save an area in glasgow with a wild orchid population. You need not be a local to support this campaign.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8766.new#new
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Here's three more.
Ophys lutea, a small flower but very yellow, if you're into that:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/Ophryslutea.jpg)
Orchis tridentata. Not a fantastic flowering this year.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/orchistridentata.jpg)
Orchis simia. When you look at the small men on the stalk you kind of understand why so much folklore has developed around these plants.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Orchids/Orchismorio.jpg)
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Brilliant orchids everyone and some very desirable ones - A. morio pale forms and O. italica
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Hello Lars,
your morio is actually Orchis simia!
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Thanks Pauli. I don't know where my head was when i wrote morio. It is corrected.
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Does anyone else see a samurai warrior in Lars yellow orchid flower?
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Does anyone else see a samurai warrior in Lars yellow orchid flower?
I see what you mean..... but the flower is not so fierce!
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These have been in flower for ages, I keep forgetting to take photos.
Pterostylis curta
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After a heavy frost, which was not forecast and has taken its toll on some of ophrys.
Ophrys fusca subsp. fusca
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Some of mine in flower today
Ophrys lutea with flowers twice the normal size
Ophrys lutea
Serapis vomeracea
Ophrys speculum
Orchis pallens
Orchis italica ?
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Super selection, Tony. Doesn't the Ophrys speculum look exactly like a bee climbing a flower stem? 8)
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Maggi
it is a wonderful thing. I have had it several years and found it difficult to flower,this is its first time so I am very pleased.
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A first success in flowering is always a cause for pleasure, Tony. It is certainly a super wee plant: hope you've "cracked" its requirements now for a happy future.
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Tony, i really like your Ophrys lutea with large flower. Your Orchis italica is not anything like the one i have with that name. I'll have to consult a book to how much variation there is in that species.
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Tony they are so lovely. I too like your Ophrys speculum, something special.
Angie :)
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A few Ophrys today, photos not great I'm afraid, but anyway...Ophrys morisii and O. lunulata.
Alex
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Amazing Alex ;D ;D. Love those Ophrys. :o :o I dont grow any ( I daren't! ) but really love the Genus. Beautifully grown, as if I may say, are all the plants you show us.
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Two nice terrestrials shoot today at the Internationale Orchideenwelt Dresden.
Orchis papilionacea
Diuris orientis
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What a very pleasant surprise I had today. Whilst moving my Calypso bulbosa I discovered an amazing scent. To me it is like an old fashioned rose scent, and whilst not as discernable from a distance it is just lovely close up.
I had to go back several times.
Sorry Maggi - no scent button.
I've added the photo again.
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Graham mine should be in flower in the next few days and I will see if I can detect a scent (or Mrs W. will)
here are my last couple of orchis in flower
Orchis morio
and the second has been said to be a hybrid between O. morio and O. papilionacea although I am more inclined to think it is a form of O. mascula
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here is the only orchis i have orchis italica
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My Calypso bulbosa has opened, sorry about the pot but it has spent the winter plunged under the bench with copious supplies of slug pellets. My second one is nearly open and I will try for seed.
Graham yes I have detected that it is scented
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Tony, that's absolutely charming. :)
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My second Calypso bulbosa in flower.
I have mated them with each other,they seemed more receptive than the pandas and so hopefully there should be at least one seed pod for somebody to have a go with.
Also had a look at the roots and there was a very healthy vine weevil larvae in the pot.No longer
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Oh Tony, did you take a picture of it?
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He did but it was considered too 'blue' for this forum, ;D
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here is the only orchis i have orchis italica
Nice one Sam. 8)
I have mated them with each other,they seemed more receptive than the pandas .....
Did they do handstands though? :D
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Two early starters. The Man Orchid Aceras anthropophora. Unfortunately the plant in the bckground snapped in transit to a show last weekend. The other is the Burnt Tip, Neotinea ustulata. This can from a friend in France who has the good fortune to have some in his meadow. I understand from the growers that it is nearly impossible to raise from seed.
Jeff
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:o :o :o 8) 8) 8)
We really are so privileged to be treated by some very dedicated people to some extraordinary plants on this Forum. I consider myself very fortunate to see what is shared, both photographically and verbally. 8) 8)
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This has been opening for a week now,
Orchis mascula the early purple orchid, plain leaf.
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.........The Man Orchid Aceras anthropophora................
I was just looking at the plant I bought as a seedling Orchis anthropophora.
The lower flowers are just beginnning to open and.............. it isn't Orchis anthropophora. :(
At least not a pure one, it may be a hybrid with Orchis militaris or even pure O. militaris.
Disappointing at first but it does look like it will be a terrific flower. ;D
Watch this space 8)
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Some in flower today
Orchis morio
Orchis sambucina red form
Ophrys lutea
Amistostigma gonggashanicum flowering a month earlier than last year and equally minute.I am showing a closeup of the flowers to help convince me it is worth the effort growing it.
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Well I am having another disastrous year, no new tubers on 11 of them this year they didn't even manage to produce any flowers either.
But one I am happy that has flowered Orchis simia, I got this as a just out of flask seedling 5 years ago, the rest of them have not flowered.
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Neil and Tony - lovely plants
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Amazing plants. All of them are surely worth growing 8) 8) 8) 8)
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just noticed Freds mascula - lovely. I havent seen any on verges around here
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Listera ovata one of the 'green ones' and flowers in closeup. Having a good year with all this rain.
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Wonderful plants, all!
Tony, I love that "red" Orchis sambucina!
And Neil, that Orchis simia is simply stunning, I've put it on my wishlist!
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Neil,
I love your Monkey Orchid (Orchis simia). It looks so cheerful. :) :) :)
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Well you will be able to see it in flesh on Sunday
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Lovely plants. It takes great skill to keep these happy. Something I was short of, as many of my small terrestrial orchids just seem to go backwards after a year or two. :(
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Neil,
I look forward to this. Please come and say hello. :) :) :)
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I was just looking at the plant I bought as a seedling Orchis anthropophora.
The lower flowers are just beginnning to open and.............. it isn't Orchis anthropophora. :(
At least not a pure one, it may be a hybrid with Orchis militaris or even pure O. militaris.
Disappointing at first but it does look like it will be a terrific flower. ;D
Watch this space 8)
Finally I get a photo to post ;D
The flower is scented
ID anyone please.
Edit:- Photo renamed
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Fred very nice,when you get a name I will write it on mine that looks to be the same and I have failed to identify.
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orchis tridentata or Neotinea tridentata Fred and Tony
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orchis tridentata or Neotinea tridentata Fred and Tony
That was a bit too easy for you Dave.
You could have at least made it seem more difficult ::)
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Dave don't give them a choice its Neotinea
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Two more terrestrials out today.
1 & 2 Anacamptis laxiflora, my my what a tall one this is ;D
3 & 4 Anacamptis pyramidalis, just how does that duck keep getting into the flowers?
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Very nice Fred love the Pyramid Orchid, have you forced this? As I can just see the start of a shoot in one of mine. And I am meant to be in the warmer south and ahead of you!
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........ love the Pyramid Orchid, have you forced this?......
It's potted in a cold greenhouse Neil and I mean cold 8)
I think the rumours of you being warmer down there are greatly exaggerated ;D
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Some Ophrys and a Serapis yesterday (see file names for ID). Can anyone suggest what the mystery Ophrys at the end might be - it was received as Ophrys X syracusana, which I think is lunulata X speculum - any support for that? I guess I can sort of see the 'spectacles' of lunulata, but I think on balance it looks like something else....views welcome.
Alex
bertolonii
neglecta
splendida
splendida2
mystery Ophrys
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Nice ophrys,mine are all finished.
First of the later flowering orchids
Cephalanthera longifolia
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Nice ophrys,mine are all finished.
First of the later flowering orchids
Cephalanthera longifolia
When did they move Chorley to the Riviera Tony?
You must be two months in front of me
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When did they move Chorley to the Riviera Tony?
You must be two months in front of me
And even more in front of me, click on pictures
Orchis mascula
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and a very pale form I don't think the spike is going to get in taller
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Satyrium erectum from South Africa.
And a couple of hybrids between Australian Thelymitra species
'Sleeping Beauty' which inherits a terrific scent from the T. antennifera parent
and T. macrophylla x luteocillium
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Darren
I have the thelymitra sp you gave me in bud but cannot get enough sun and warmth to open it.
Here is an ophrys sp. which I had thought had aborted but it decided to open. Cannot identify it as anything specific so calling it Ophyrs fuciflora.
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Darren
I have the thelymitra sp you gave me in bud but cannot get enough sun and warmth to open it.
Here is an ophrys sp. which I had thought had aborted but it decided to open. Cannot identify it as anything specific so calling it Ophyrs fuciflora.
Tony - my plants of that particular one are still not quite ready to open yet anyway. But they do need a fair bit of warmth to open and the last few cool weeks have been a challenge for them!
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Definitely one of the fuciflora complex at least...
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Hello, some Amitostigma Keiskei variations blooming now :)
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Popped along to one of the local sites today.
The Dactylorhiza fuchsii are about at the stage I would expect, a couple of weeks or so behind the ones I have potted in the greenhouse.
However, what surprised me is that the Twayblades, Listera ovata, are about a week in front of my potted ones :o
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Tatsuo, your amitostigma are beautifull, congratulations
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Popped along to one of the local sites today.
The Dactylorhiza fuchsii are about at the stage I would expect, a couple of weeks or so behind the ones I have potted in the greenhouse.
However, what surprised me is that the Twayblades, Listera ovata, are about a week in front of my potted ones :o
Fred my naturalised ones in the garden are at about the stage you have shown but I posted my potted one in flower on the 19 th April. I see in 2011 they were in flower at that same time, 2008 in May and 2009,2010 in June.
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Fred my naturalised ones in the garden are at about the stage you have shown but I posted my potted one in flower on the 19 th April. I see in 2011 they were in flower at that same time, 2008 in May and 2009,2010 in June.
Most of your hardy orchids appear to be a lot earlier than mine Tony, do you heat at all over winter?
I have given my Twayblades a good talking to, they get a move on or they're outside next winter ;D.
That should help. 8)
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Most of your hardy orchids appear to be a lot earlier than mine Tony, do you heat at all over winter?
I have given my Twayblades a good talking to, they get a move on or they're outside next winter ;D.
That should help. 8)
Heat for the plants,we don't even heat ourselves!
Only the ophrys are kept just frost free at the roots the rest just sit it out whatever comes.
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Another three just starting to flower, only one or two open flowers on each inflorescence so it's close up time (again).
1 Anacamptis coriophora ssp. fragrance
2 & 3 Platanthera chlorantha
4 Ophrys apifera
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While you show all the gems I'll keep to the everyday Orchis mascula ;)
When I was a kid the woods here were filled with this orchid. The pastures were grazed by cows. Now they are grazed by sheep and they take all the orchid leaves in summer so this species has almost disappeared. Only a few specimens are to be found now.
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I got this as Orchis wardii but it does not seem to agree with any pictures of that species on the web.
It is about 12 cms high
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Not sure what that is Tony
Anacamptis pyramidalis just starting to open.
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Hi all:
Here is my Bletia purpurea flowering today.
enjoy
Juanba
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Hello Juanba,
your Bletia is very pretty. :) :) :)
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Flowering today:
Dactylorhiza majalis
Orchis purpurea
Poul
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I got this as Orchis wardii but it does not seem to agree with any pictures of that species on the web.
It is about 12 cms high
could it be a Galearis Tony?
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David
spot on I think- Galearis spathulata ?
www.orchidspecies.com/galspathulata.htm (http://www.orchidspecies.com/galspathulata.htm)
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Bletilla striata flowering potted on my balcony.
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I'm pleased to have this fellow flowering again after two years. ;D
I have read this can be difficult as it is reportedly semi-saprophytic.
It's also a snail magnet. ::)
Cremastra appendiculata
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A few Ophrys today: aveyronensis, lacaitae and bertolonii.
Alex
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David
spot on I think- Galearis spathulata ?
www.orchidspecies.com/galspathulata.htm (http://www.orchidspecies.com/galspathulata.htm)
I agree Tony looks the same just a paler form,nice plant though
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No-one seems too bothered about my Cremastra so here's my take on Bletilla striata
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Wonderful Bletilla :o, Fred!
I like your Cremastra a bit too ;D (Or is it the other way round) ;) ;)
Just kidding! I had never heard of Cremastra appendiculata! Is it hardy?
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Just kidding! I had never heard of Cremastra appendiculata! Is it hardy?
If it lives with me it has to be Wim ;D
Here's an Ophrys apifera with different markings to what I've posted before.
These always seem to look happy ;D
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A lot of your pictures are almost animated Fred :o. So often there are faces peeping out at us, LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Another pink one.
Very awkward to get a decent photo, I'll succeed one day :-\
Calopogon tuberosus
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Calopogon tuberosus
Very nice, not yet in flower over here, I'm still looking for the white form of this one!
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Fred
very nice not one I have seen and I am hoping to see it in the wild in a couple of weeks which should be good
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Cypripedium reginae are back in my local garden centre. Robust single noses for £35. Just 5 pots there yesterday. Hope to check another GC chain in a few days.
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Hi Brian,
you can get them much more cheaply (£18) closer by. ;D ;D ;D
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One of mine flowering for the first time after many years of sitting doing nothing. I hope the name is correct but just like in Europe every variation seems to have been given a species name. It seems to fit.
Chloraea lamellata
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wait til I lift my jaw off the ground ..... :o That is a gorgeous orchid
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Tony it was worth the wait, a real beauty.
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Stunning orchid Tony.
Could I ask how many years? I'm currently growing a deflasked seedling (last year) of Chloraea alpina and wondered what to expect. I guessed 3-4 years.
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Peter
I have had it for about seven years. I cannot be exact because when I was less experienced with computers a virus wiped mine out and I lost all my records.
It has sat and done nothing until about two years ago when it stayed green in the summer and has not gone dormant since.It is a Mediterranean climate grower like C. alpina and of course it may in fact be that species. Is there any difference?
I do not keep it totally dry in summer and it is kept frost free in winter.
Frank Meissner who I am hopeful of sending seed to, from my plant, has successfully raised C multiflora from seed and has given details of its progress on the terrestrial orchid forum. What a magnificent plant that is. His has taken seven years.
http://forum.terrorchid.org/viewtopic.php?t=472 (http://forum.terrorchid.org/viewtopic.php?t=472)
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That is a beautiful plant Tony, congratulations on getting it to flower, 8)
The thread you refer us to is absolutely fascinating, seeing that plant from seed to flower over six and half years. What a flower! ;D
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That is a beautiful plant Tony, congratulations on getting it to flower, 8)
The thread you refer us to is absolutely fascinating, seeing that plant from seed to flower over six and half years. What a flower! ;D
I'll second that... the thread linked to from the orchid forum is most instructive... and what a lovely flower to crown it all. I've only seen these plants in photogrpahs.... so pretty.
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Thanks for that information Tony. So far, so good - I had heard about using a mineral soil, so I've managed to get that bit right, only seven or so years to go. ;)
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Stunning plant Tony. I'd heard from a mutual friend that you were expecting it to flower and it is nice to see it. Definitely worth the wait.
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Congratulations tony, that's a wonderful achievement. It will be interesting to know how things proceed from here: seed? will it increase vegetatively etc? I hope you'll keep us posted. :) :) :)
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A couple of Dactylorhiza from me
Dactylorhiza traunsteinerioides and Dactylorhiza baltica
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I've spent the afternoon in the greenhouse tidying up my now dormant ophrys, removing the top growth, tipping out the tubers, finding some huge and some disappointingly small. Throughout I was accompanied by the world's noisiest bee. When I'd finished I thought that I'd take some close ups of my fragrant and pyramid orchids but my noisy companion had other ideas. I just had to spend a few minutes snapping my new "bee orchid".
Normally I'd gently usher bees out of the greenhouse, but today it would drown and it's made me smile on a miserable day.
;D ;D ;D
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This is my first flower on Gymnadenia conopsea. Not as impressive as in the Italian Alps, but it's a nice treat to see it in my own garden.
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Fred
very nice not one I have seen and I am hoping to see it in the wild in a couple of weeks which should be good
Looking forward to your photos Tony.
In the meanwhile there's been a few more buds opened and still more to come. ;D
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I posted photos of Platanthera chlorantha a month ago but I think these from today are better. 8)
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I posted photos of Platanthera chlorantha a month ago but I think these from today are better. 8)
Very nice,i was photgraphing them today in a wood ;D not as good as your specimen.
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Himantoglossum hircinum in flower now
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Beautifully Tony, how do you keep it going once it has flowered? I suppose it is skill ;) I kept losing mine, and as I have finally managed to get 3 seeds to germinate I would like to kee them this time!
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Skill,no chance then!
As is my way I have already had it out of its pot several times and it has formed a nice new tuber. I like to look below soil level as much as above. So I am hopeful for good growth next year.
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Eleorchis japonica 'alba' opening today.
I've had this for several years and it seems to get 'pinker' by the year.
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Eleorchis japonica 'alba' opening today.
I've had this for several years and it seems to get 'pinker' by the year.
??? ??? Do you have an idea why that's happening?
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Too much red wine. ;D ;D ;D
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A better photo of the Eleorchis.
It's still showing pink though.
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One of Maggi's favourites ;D
I've just taken another four shoots out of the drain holes of this pot ;D
I've noticed with all my Epipactis that if restricted in the pot they head down.
My Epipactis royleana was only showing three shoots , I repotted it raising all the buds and now have fifteen in leaf several of which have flower buds.
Epipactis gigantea
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A real corker, Fred
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Whilst pottering round a garden centre today I spotted a selection of potted Orchids. The Dactylorhizas were nothing to shout about but they had some Blettilla which looked really nice and seemed in very good condition. £12.50 a pot, does that seem reasonable?
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David it depends how many in the pot, what variety/hybrid? If 3 or more plants in a pot then yes good value no matter what it is.
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Went for a walk in the Warburg Reserve today, which is a beautiful and orchid-rich piece of land very near Henley, Oxfordshire. I have attached a few pics below. The Dactylorhizas were all over the place, and sometimes in quite large colonies; pyramidal orchids were also quite numerous. I found just one, solitary Ophrys apifera despite finding many on previous visits, although Ophrys insectifera has always retained a low level presence here. The Platanthera was going over, but perhaps someone can tell me which one it is? We also saw a single Neottia nidus-avis, but it was well over so I didn't photograph it.
Alex
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David it depends how many in the pot, what variety/hybrid? If 3 or more plants in a pot then yes good value no matter what it is.
Only one per pot and just labelled Bletilla, so guess £12.50 per pot is a bit expensive.
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Could anyone please put a name to this. It was growing in Palheiro Garden (perhaps better known as Blaney's Garden) in Madeira. I had expected to see quite a lot of Orchids but most were well over apart from this one.
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Its a cymbidium David
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Hi,
it's a cymbidium, but not sure whether species or hybrid. Looking at the flower shape, my first thought was Cymbidium lowianum, but there is insufficient green in the flower and the lip is not red enough.
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Many thanks Maren and Dave. There were lots of them.
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Epipactis royleana is starting to flower. What a nice deep dusky pink colour.
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Epipactis gigantea
Spreads like crazy!. We're pleased it does though, ;D.
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We used to grow gigantea and yes it can spread like mad in a moist soil! Don't say this to Maggi though....
We now have one of its hybrids (Lowland Legacy, I think). This is almost as vigorous. We just noticed flowers emerging through the side of a neighbouring conifer - a metre off the ground - where it has grown up through it and found a gap!
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really?! any photos
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Epipactis gigantea
Spreads like crazy!. We're pleased it does though, ;D.
We used to grow gigantea and yes it can spread like mad in a moist soil! Don't say this to Maggi though....
We now have one of its hybrids (Lowland Legacy, I think). This is almost as vigorous. We just noticed flowers emerging through the side of a neighbouring conifer - a metre off the ground - where it has grown up through it and found a gap
I heard that!
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I'll put you orchid buffs to work, please .... I'm not good at sorting out these little guys and someone would like an ID.... the orchid was photographed in Airdrie, Lanarkshire.
It looks quite tall, so I'd think D. fuchsii.... but then I think that about them all!
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I'd agree with you Maggi, based on the shape of the lip of the flower (best seen in photos 2+3) and the moderate, not heavy, spotting of the leaves (in photo 1).
At least if I'm wrong I'm in good company. ;)
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Yes, the foliage isn't seen very clearly in pic 1 but you can make out one or two spots.
...and Peter, I'm happy to keep you company in the bar anytime!
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really?! any photos
Here you go Mark. There are two flower spike poking out of the conifer about half way up the right hand side. They are level with my hip which makes them about a metre tall. The rest of the plant is no shorty either at around 60cm.
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Goodyera repens is fairly common in the woods near me. Sometimes it is abundant for a few years in one place then disappears then I spot it somewhere else. It is very difficult to spot when not in flower. Last year a friend and I found masses in one area once we got our eye in. I went there two weeks ago and could not see any. On Saturday I found plenty. I find them very difficult to photograph. My camera cannot see them on auto.
The small clump is in the wood close to my house.
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My friend came to visit yesterday to see the Goodyera repens again. We spent a while looking at some of my holiday snaps
(Gardens of Gothenburg) and her holiday pics (horse riding in British Columbia - fantastic scenery, lovely horses and some flower pictures too - not easy from the back of a horse). When the rain eased we went off to the woods. We were amazed how widespread the orchids were. It is not an easy orchid to spot when not in flower especially when growing in grass or other vegetation. Some in ones and twos others in small groups some present in small area and others covering a wide area. There were quite a lot close to the dactylorhyzas but they did not seem to intermingle. I did not take any pics as I could not be bothered getting down on my knees in the wet but Leona took lots. The rain came on heavy again and we were thoroughly soaked by the time we got back.
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Roma
those goodyera are certainly super. I see somebody on the UK Orchid Forum from Aberdeen has also been to see them.
Here is Spiranthes sinensis 'giant form' certainly a plant to set the pulse racing. It is 50 cms tall and the flowers are just visible to the naked eye. Verdict from Mrs W. throw it in the bin it is an embarrassment!
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My Spiranthes sinensis v. alba "Lucille" has finally flowered ;D
Not as distinctive as the typical form, a sort of quiet elegance, if you have good eyesight. 8)
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Fred at least you can see the flowers on yours.
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I'm just grateful for a combination of the forum and digital photography, or most of us would never be seeing anything of these plants. Thanks, Guys!
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I was just about to say the same thing Maggi, ;D.
I hope growers of these small flowered species ( of anything ) never give up posting because they don't get many hits! :( I for one am astonished at seeing these plants and feel very privileged to do so. 8) 8)
Its well worth enlarging the thumbnail of that Spiranthes just to see the almost crystalline nature of the lip, :o
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............Verdict from Mrs W. throw it in the bin it is an embarrassment!
Fred at least you can see the flowers on yours.
I have a very handy bin just here Tony ;D
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Tony,
that Spiranthes sinensis is phantastic. Such a treasure and not that easy to grow. Well done. Buy your wife a hat. ;) ;) ;)
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Spiranthes sp. pollinated by various 'bee' sp. ;D ;D An awful lot of research regarding this has been published and is freely available. Google Scholar will provide for interested parties. ;D ;D
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I second the opinion that Magi's orchid is D. fuchsii, based on the lip.
I have had no success with Epipactis gigantea - think the slugs are to complain. They finished the plant at once when it emerged the first time. Hadn't any chance to establish itself :'(
Spiranthes is a nice genus. It's a pity they're almost impossible to buy in Norway - like all kinds of garden Orchid.
Here are two of the smaller orchid I've seen this summer: Listera cordata and Coeleglossum viride.
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A tiny one flowering for me now. Lovely leaves
Hemipilia sp.
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I love all these little things :D Well done to make them flowering ::)
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Last flowering garden(for this year ;)) orchid in my garden Calanthe reflexa
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Hello Sarmienta,
my Calanthe reflexa is flowering in the cool greenhouse (not so cool at this time of year). I see you grow yours in the garden. Do you leave it there all year round and do you protect it in the winter? :)
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Hello Maren
Its the first time flowering ,but i have it for 2 winters in my garden with a little protection .
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Hello Sarmienta,
beautiful orchid and well cultivated - congratulations!
Calanthe is hardy down to -15°C without protection, nevertheless I fairly doubt, that exposing this beauty to such harsh conditions is a good idea. Mine here in Vienna never flowered. Instead it was killed after three years in a really cold winter, when temperatures dropped down to -17°C and -18°C in two subsequent nights.
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Hello Winwen,
I am sure that some Calanthes are quite hardy but not all - they grow in cold to warm climates and it is not always easy to know exactly where they fit. The literature can be helpful but I have found by experience (and loss) that it is safer to grow them just a little warmer than the book says.
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Oh great joy, my first ever sighting of Cremastra unguiculata.
Isn't it annoying when you carefully plant a tuber in dead centre only for the leaf to appear at the edge of the pot months later :(
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Isn't it annoying when you carefully plant a tuber in dead centre only for the leaf to appear at the edge of the pot months later
It's a metaphor for life itself. ;D
At least it's come up at the side of the pot and on the top - Lilium nepalense generally appears through the drainage holes at the base. :-\
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Like this Cypripedium formosanum ? ;) ;) I 'll let it flower like this next year as a curiosity to take along for lectures. ;D ;D ;D
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Oh great joy, my first ever sighting of Cremastra unguiculata.
Isn't it annoying when you carefully plant a tuber in dead centre only for the leaf to appear at the edge of the pot months later :(
Neil looks a lovely leaf,is it going to flower?
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Neil looks a lovely leaf,is it going to flower?
Its not mine its Fred's
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Its not mine its Fred's
sorry of course it is!
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Neil looks a lovely leaf,is it going to flower?
Well Neil.... is it?
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Well Neil.... is it?
Well be a betting man there is 2 possible outcomes to this and I am going for yes/no (delete as appropriate)
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My first autumnal Australian, Pterostylis coccinea. Highly recommended as it is one of the ultimate colony formers, I had a single tuber in 2008 and now I have two pots full and gave loads away when I repotted this year. However it is cauline, i.e. with two forms, a fertile one which flowers and a sterile one which does not. In my experience they do not produce enough leaves to photosynthesise enough, so all the flowering plants die at the end of the season without producing a replacement tuber, (unless you know different?) so the last thing that you want is for all your plants to flower. The first shoots appeared about six weeks ago, but they don't all come up together which prolongs the flowering period, but I wish they'd all flower at the same time.
At orchid shows people sometimes say that they find slipper orchids "creepy", who knows what they'd make of these? i just wish that they were two or three feet tall instead of six inches ;D
Apologies, they are so 3-d that they are not the easiest to photograph.
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Oh great joy, my first ever sighting of Cremastra unguiculata.
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Very interesting. My Cremastra unguiculata has also stuck its head above the soil for the first time in two years. Coincidence or something about the weather? Guess we'll never know with so few people growing it ;D
This does illustrate one very important point though. Just because a terrestrial doesn't appear do not throw it away without doing a very careful inspection of the pot's contents.
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Very interesting. My Cremastra unguiculata has also stuck its head above the soil for the first time in two years. Coincidence or something about the weather? Guess we'll never know with so few people growing it ;D
This does illustrate one very important point though. Just because a terrestrial doesn't appear do not throw it away without doing a very careful inspection of the pot's contents.
Mine put up two shoots this month too. Then it was eaten to the ground by slugs. The rest of you might want to think about precautions... :(
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A litle excursion of mine into almost girl's blouse orchid territory :o
At least it's a terrestrial and a cool - cold grower ;D
I liked this little Stenoglottis longifolia as the bud opened ( photo 1) but fully open it's a beauty, small but a beauty ;D
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A litle excursion of mine into almost girl's blouse orchid territory :o
At least it's a terrestrial and a cool - cold grower ;D
Fred how much cold can it take?
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Fred are we going to see the full plant please?
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Neil: For the last two years Stenoglottis plants have been placed in the hardy competition at Peterborough International Orchid Show, causing some debate as to how hardy they are. After the first year I decided to do a little experiment with mine and left them in my frost free(-ish) greenhouse with all my other hardies. Believe me the temperature went well below zero on several occasions and the Stenoglottis didn't care. It might have made them a little later to flower but who cares.
Picture is of Stenoglottis woodii, my longifolia are just opening, pics to follow.
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Fred how much cold can it take?
I think Steve answered that one Neil.
Fred are we going to see the full plant please?
I'm waiting for a few more buds to open Tony.
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I grow Stenoglottis longifolia out in the garden here in one (admittedly relatively sheltered) place. They most definitely get cold, but I think that sever enough frosts on the flowers can damage them.
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Steve
Thank you for the answer, would you be able to pollinate both your woodii and longifolia for me so that I could have the seeds to sow.
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Fred are we going to see the full plant please?
I'm waiting for a few more buds to open Tony.
A few more opened ;D
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This summer I bought a pot of Stenoglottis longifolia at the Hampton Court show, from the Writhlington School orchid project stand. http://wsbeorchids.org/ (http://wsbeorchids.org/) It had 3 crowns in a small 3"? pot. I later potted it on into a 5" and noticed recently the thick roots are already showing at the drainage holes. Does it want more room horizontally or vertically? It is probably too late this season as it goes dormant after flowering I understand.
I have 3 flower stems, the largest showing colour but not open yet. It is in the 7C minimum greenhouse. Maybe I will try one in the unheated section next year.
What increase might I expect over a year? These were seed grown by the project, so may have been just 3 seedlings, not one that has multiplied.
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Stenoglotis - WOW! How hardy?
Damn slugs .... alternative food put out tonight
I'm amazed at how big the Dactylorhiza noses are.
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Brian,
I grow my Stenoglottis in bowls like Ian's, only smaller, depending on how many plants there are. :)
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I thought DaveyP might like to see this one, an article in November's "The Garden"
".............. Dactylorhiza fuschii, Ophrys apifera and Anacamptis pyramidalis are now growing in what was mown grassland alongside the pitch of Forest Green Rovers, near Stroud, Gloucestershire. This cuts down on mowing time, leaving the groundsman free to concentrate on maintaining the pitch..............."
Dave might think this is a better purpose for another Forest pitch than the purpose it's currently used for? ;D
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Wonder if that would work in Aberdeen......... ::)
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Should do, it's had a lot of manure thrown on it! ;D
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Mark,
I grow my Stenoglottis longifolia outside here, in some shelter in general because they like a bit of shade, but I have a small clump growing out in the garden as well. Has been there for a number of years now without any problems.
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Spiranthes autumnalis now in flower
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Hi, I bought this lovely Spathoglottis from Wubben at the BOC Orchid Congress Writhlington last weekend. He wasn't sure about the specific epithet. The nearest I can get, based on the very slightly pointed petals and the long thin leaves, is S. kimballiana v angustifolia. The flower spike is about 40cm long and has 4 open flowers and 4 buds. The leaves are narrow and of the same length. Any suggestions, please?
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That's a gorgeous plant whick would I guess never grow outside in my green house
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Hi Mark,
it comes from Borneo and needs to be frost free.
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After a heavy frost, which was not forecast and has taken its toll on some of ophrys.
Ophrys fusca subsp. fusca
A year on how is your O. fusca?
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Hi - according to the post from 05 of March 2012 (page 6)
Two forms of Orchis morio (I know its name has changed but not in my pots)
Maybe you would like to exchange one tuber of morio but from this 1 picture, not the second one - I got spare tubers of classic morio colours.
Win
I have been and had a look at the second one again and I am quite sure it is morio.
As to seed I do not do that intentionally but if they self seed I send them of to other forum members who are interested. I am propagating them with a little success by cutting of the young tuber and hoping a second one forms. Timing seems critical.
The plant on your third photo belongs to morio group, but is not a "pure" morio - this is albino form of Anacamptis (Orchis) morio subs.caucasica. I guess - from Greece.
Rgerads -
Kristof
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A year on how is your O. fusca?
mmm very with small two leaves and no flower
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Ophrys apifera
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Bletilla sp. China small flower
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orchis diantha,regrettably has to be grown in a pot
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One from the garden that i never thoguht would survive. Denmark is quite a few miles from the normal northern border for Orchis Coriophora. Not that it stopped me from trying, even though i did think that it was an even more unlikely candidate for survivel, Orchis antropophora. Did poorly the first year, rotted away the next, but this year it florishes and flower.
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hello friends,
I could manage to get some species from the US Platantheras.
this is the first to flower of several
Platanthera psycodes.
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20130702-095501-711.jpg)
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20130702-100906-990.jpg)
NOW there is still hope also to get flowers on the
Pl. blephariglottis and Pl. ciliaris :)
enjoy
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Dieter
just seen your post,very nice.
Two forms of Bletilla ochracea
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thank you Tony :)
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Little Stenoglottis woodii has been inn flower for a few days.
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That's a lovely pink colour Fred. Mine is much paler - and it flowered two months ago. :-\
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Little Stenoglottis woodii has been inn flower for a few days.
nice flower and color,
but I think it is Stenoglottis macloughlinii instead of S. woodii.
most woodii I have seen were NO woodii.
indeed there are only slight differences
in flower color and shape and length of the spur.
most woodii are white, while the macloughlinii are "pinkish"
best to determine, if you see them side by side ;D
most times, you can read they are the same species,
but they are growing in different places in SA,
and also wubben lists two DIFFERENT species
cheers
look here for true S. woodii
http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantqrs/stenoglotwood.htm (http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantqrs/stenoglotwood.htm)
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Spiranthes sinensis out this week. I grow it wet with my Disas and it seems to love it. For those not familiar with this species it's tiny, about 6 cm tall.
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Dieter,
S. macloughlinii was a new name to me, so I looked up a few references. It appears on IPNI, although I'm not sure whether they regard it as a separate species, but Kew seem to have it listed as a synonym for S. woodii.
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Stenoglottis (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Stenoglottis)
Looks like the taxonomists are hard at work confusing us poor mortals again. ;)
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Dieter,
S. macloughlinii was a new name to me, so I looked up a few references. It appears on IPNI, although I'm not sure whether they regard it as a separate species, but Kew seem to have it listed as a synonym for S. woodii.
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Stenoglottis (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Stenoglottis)
Looks like the taxonomists are hard at work confusing us poor mortals again. ;)
hello Peter,
I am neither a botanist nor taxonomist.
I just told, what I have seen with my own eyes.
and if you look at the pictures (platzafrica) ,
you can see the differences.
And as I already wrote, they are growing in different parts of SA.
BUT we have many severe other problems on this world..................
cheers
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Flowering for the first time for me, the glorious Habenaria myriotricha.
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Crikey Pete, that's fantastic!
You would think a pollinator heading to that flower would be terrified of being captured :o
You guys are always astounding me with the range of plants you grow!
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Sven de Groot is showing another lovely Habenaria, with a large mottled blueish leaf, in the VRV forum - he thinks it might be H. glaucifolia
http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?topic=343.msg49389#msg49389 (http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?topic=343.msg49389#msg49389)
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hey, it looks somewhat like this
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://rheum.huh.harvard.edu/zimage/std/skelley20070105142045.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id%3D89696%26flora_id%3D800&h=768&w=576&sz=72&tbnid=JLaeo43Ezir4-M:&tbnh=97&tbnw=73&zoom=1&usg=__-MsCTNCoz-rRng4F70GxQ8swQy0=&docid=x_Lq8RtN1TjidM&sa=X&ei=sZgYUujyM4arhQfc94DwDQ&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAw&dur=770 (http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://rheum.huh.harvard.edu/zimage/std/skelley20070105142045.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id%3D89696%26flora_id%3D800&h=768&w=576&sz=72&tbnid=JLaeo43Ezir4-M:&tbnh=97&tbnw=73&zoom=1&usg=__-MsCTNCoz-rRng4F70GxQ8swQy0=&docid=x_Lq8RtN1TjidM&sa=X&ei=sZgYUujyM4arhQfc94DwDQ&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAw&dur=770)
insofar it might be the same species
cheers
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Yes, this link to a photo of the foliage is similar too:
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=89698&flora_id=800 (http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=89698&flora_id=800)
Interesting plant.
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You would think a pollinator heading to that flower would be terrified of being captured :o
Talking about pollinators, has someone tried crossing this with one of the more colourful species like H. rhodocheila? Bet there is potential.
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I bought this at an orchid show in Howick village, about 15 minutes north of me late winter 2011. It was in flower then. Once it was past I repotted it and put it under a tree at the edge of the garden. Once I saw three flowering spikes appear I put it on the patio. I has taken months for them to grow and the flowers started opening this week. The stems are the best part of a metre long.
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I acquired these little chaps a few years ago. They eventually flowered for a couple of years then 'disappeared'. Some weeds came up but as I pulled the first one I noticed a small tuber on the end (ooooops). Left to their own devices they continued to send up the weed type growth. This spring I decided to repot and the results aren't too bad. ;D
Pterostylis coccinea*
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/9733227837_6170d20cb5_o.jpg)
There should also be a few Pterostylis obtusa mixed in with these, fingers crossed.
* aka Diplodium coccinea
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Chloraea lamellata
I just view your pocture ! Really beautiful species... Is it possible to buy Chloraea and other species like that in Europa ???
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François,
I have never seen adult plants for sale in Europe (although I believe that some were available several years ago), but have managed to obtain a flasked seedling of Chloraea alpina which is now in its second year after deflasking - not sure if that source has any more, he mainly raises tropical orchids.
As you seem to be having great success with seeds, you could try Chileflora (www.chileflora.com (http://www.chileflora.com)) who list a number of species of Chloraea (look under 'perennials' in the seed shop). I've not used the company myself (yet!), but have heard that other people have been happy with what they supply.
A question about seed sowing (something that I'm about to try for the first time) - which medium did you use for your Australian terrestrials' sowing medium. I have some Sigma Adritch Phytamax on order for Cypripediums, would this be suitable for Thelymitra, etc?
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Thanks Peter :)
A question about seed sowing (something that I'm about to try for the first time) - which medium did you use for your Australian terrestrials' sowing medium. I have some Sigma Adritch Phytamax on order for Cypripediums, would this be suitable for Thelymitra, etc?
For my australian, I use Western medium (http://westernorchids.com.au/tissueculture-mediaformulae.html (http://westernorchids.com.au/tissueculture-mediaformulae.html)). I will also use it for south-african species... I never tried Phytamax, but why not... I want to try several media for sowing, like W3, Orchimax, HCM1a... with / without coco water, with / without banana... You have to try, because it can work on some species, but not on others...
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François,
I have never seen adult plants for sale in Europe (although I believe that some were available several years ago), but have managed to obtain a flasked seedling of Chloraea alpina which is now in its second year after deflasking - not sure if that source has any more, he mainly raises tropical orchids.
Peter - if it was Equatorial Plants then he still had flasks of C. alpina this spring as I bought a flask of seedlings from him at the RHS London orchid show in April. Much to my surprise and delight they de-flasked well and are now pushing up proper leaves. Among the other flasks he had were several other nice terrestrials, Amitostigma keiskei (which I also bought and successfully weaned), Goodyera schlechtendaliana (which I wish I'd bought), several Stenoglottis species.
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Darren,
It was Equatorial Plants, so he must have made subsequent sowings as I bought my seedling about two and a half years ago at the Raby Orchid show. It stayed in the flask for a further twelve months before I plucked up the courage to deflask it!.
Potted up in a clay long tom with a mineral mix (I understand that they do not take well to root disturbance, so I've overpotted it at present) it grew on for the rest of the season standing in the water-tray with my Disas. It has recently started to regrow for another season, so I reckon we can call that one a success.
If Richard Warren has some more terrestrials, then I must contact him and get his list - and another C alpina for insurance. ;)
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I'm giving mine similar treatment Peter, for the same reasons. I de-flasked almost immediately (early May) and potted straight into a mix which is mostly cat litter, grit and perlite. Like you I've used a big clay pot. I stood the pot outside on a shelf against the north side of our shed. They started pushing up surprisingly big new leaves around a month ago. I will bring the pot under glass shortly, before we get frost.
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This is very interesting. I look forward to seeing them in flower. :)
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hello friends,
have some Spiranthes spiralis flowering,
a little bit late this year.
Spiranthes spiralis
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20131022-122534-211.jpg)
enjoy
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Goofy,
what a lovely treasure. Congratulations. :)
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See the delightful Corybas pictus in the Flemish Forum : http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?topic=343.msg52686#msg52686 (http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?topic=343.msg52686#msg52686)
where there is also a link to this informative page with more photos on these tiny gems :
http://www.nov-orchidee.nl/html/062010.html (http://www.nov-orchidee.nl/html/062010.html)
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Corybas incurvus in flower two months earlier than last year
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Tony, that's lovely. :) :) :)
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What an amazing flower. 8)
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i think it is a really interesting plant. The photograph does not illustrate the size of the flower which is just over 1 cm in diameter,a real miniature.
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I agree. I had one and it gave me great pleasure for one season - and then it went away. I still have the tiny pot, but I think it's gone to orchid heaven. :( :(
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I'm puzzled by this, as I've told Tony privately. Though Tony's plant came from me this is far earlier than I've ever had it flower, or emerge, for me! It generally emerges around christmas time and flowers in february. It looks like mine will be on schedule for this (I tipped off the top dressing for both this and diemenicus and can see the shoots are just below the surface).
Well done also for flowering this species two years in a row :) For me diemenicus flowers regularly but incurvus flowers well one year then just produces bigger leaves the next year or two instead.
The good news is that (provided it does not go dormant early) you will get an extra few weeks growing season which may encourage it to offset. Be careful to remove the dead flower remains when it goes over - I find them bad for picking up botrytis.
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Pteroglossa roseoalba (syn. Eltroplectris roseoalba) is a deciduous terrestrial from Central and South America found at shady forest borders.
Related to Spiranthes, the rosette with mottled leaves produces a spike with flowers arranged in a loose spiral, varying from white to light pink.
Easy growing, it requires moderate temperature and less water during dormancy period in winter.
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Khadija
very interesting and nice to see. I see it has been included in spiranthes at some time and is clearly related.
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A very elegant plant, Khadija. Has it any scent? I always want to sniff the photos!
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Unfortunately it doesn't have any scent Maggi.
But the mottles leaves and reddish-brown stem of this particular clone makes it a sight for sore eyes ;D
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I think the leaves are very attractive and the dark stem really shows off the flowers.
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Flowering for the first time for me, the glorious Habenaria myriotricha.
What an amazing plant, Pete! It seemed familiar to me under another name... apparently myriotricha is a synonym for Habenaria medusa at least according to Plant List. Lord knows how many more orchid species have been changed, or merged with other genera!
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-95186 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-95186)
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My first terrestrial orchid of the New Year is appropriately enough an eastern form of the Early Spider Orchid (often considered a separate species: Ophrys mammosa).
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/11780671474_9876630c9b_o.jpg)
Ophrys sphegodes ssp mammosa
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3799/11780263935_6d2240c833_o.jpg)
Ophrys sphegodes ssp mammosa flower
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7381/11781046546_9837770b11_o.jpg)
Ophrys sphegodes ssp mammosa lip
.......there's a wee spider in there somewhere!
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Steve,
lovely plant and superb photography. Thank you for adding so much to our enjoyment. :) :) :)
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Steve
very nice,I do not even have one in early bud yet. Must be tropical in Low Valleyfield
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Thanks Tony!
Like elsewhere in the UK we had a very hot summer but night temperatures began to drop by late august; this and a cold spell (when there was frost) in early October have ignited my wintergreen orchids. All the ophrys (not that I have many) and the Barlia are advanced with almost all now showing flower buds. The challenge is to maximise light exposure and keep them in growth for as long as possible. ;)
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Wow! Nearly fell off my seat. :o
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My first terrestrial orchid of the New Year is appropriately enough an eastern form of the Early Spider Orchid (often considered a separate species: Ophrys mammosa).
Absolutely stunning images, Steve! I have been mesmerised by Ophrys forever, and have yet to see one in the flesh.... your photography is the next best thing! Perhaps someday I'll have a plant or two growing here in Nova Scotia.
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Well done Steve that is a lovely spike of flowers.
One thing I am not sure of is when to water my Ophrys.They are sitting in moist sand in clay pots with frost protection and look like they are forming spikes.Should I begin watering in the pot or just keep the sand moist?
Glynn
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I keep mine damp all winter in the pots as well as having the sand plunge moist. I have found it does them no good if too dry in winter.
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Thanks Glynn!
My Ophrys share a plunge with a collection of winter-growing South Africa bulbs and so are kept frost-free. The plunge is "swept" by a large blade oscillating fan for 15 mins every couple of hours.
I started gentle watering in the pots (clay) at the very end of August and then increased the watering to keep the compost moist through September-late November. In December-January I am a bit more careful about the watering tending to water around the edge of the pot but avoiding getting the central rosette or leaves damp. I continue regular watering until the last of the flowers on the spike have opened and then try to keep the compost just barely moist but keep the plants as cool as possible to maintain growth for as long as possible. Once the leaves start to show signs of die-back I stop all watering and allow the pots to dry off -initially in the plunge but later I remove the pots from the plunge and put them under the staging. If cool damp weather prevails at the start of dormancy the plants may not dry-off promptly and rot can set in. If any of the pots still seem a little damp at this stage I tip out the contents, clean the "tubers", allow them to air dry then place them in dry silver sand in a plastic pot for the summer. This works well for me with Ophrys and some of the Orchis. However some of the later-flowering and moist-growing Orchis don't do as well for me. I should add that whilst this regime works well for mature Ophrys I have found it a bit too harsh for young plants a year out of the flask. Of a selection of small one-year in soil Ophrys that I bought a few years ago only about 30% survived.
I use a very lean compost mix comprising of gritty sharp sand, perlite, pumice and seramis-substitute (Tesco lightweight low-dust cat litter which I soak in rain-water for a week or two before using). The only organics that I add is a small amount (no more than 10%) of composted bark.
This regime works for me but I am no expert and others on the forum might be able to give better advice.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys.
I shall start giving my plants a bit more water, probably by standing them in an inch of water.I only have half a dozen
so it will be easy enough. I worry about watering from the top, clumsy is my middle name, and I am so pleased to have got them this far.
Glynn
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I grow all my plants,crocus galanthus cyclamenorchids etc except cyps in JI no 2 and some extra grit. The orchis/ ophrys are kept just frost free. I water if necessary round the edge of the pot after tipping the grit of a couple and seeing how dry the compost is. In summer I put them in the garage to keep them cool and dry until repoting and watering again in about September.
This is my set up
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10816.45 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10816.45) post number 50.
I lose a couple each year from rot and this is usually because of condensation on the frame lid dripping when they have to be covered for a few days in cold weather. I do go out with a tissue and dab them dry if I notice it.
Damp is always a problem and humidity has been over 94% each week since the beginning of October and reached 98% this week.
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Ophrys leochroma
Apparently it has the common name of Lion-maned Orchid.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2863/12192919933_0fd655e6d9_o.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/12193086224_ef79d17012_o.jpg)
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Wonderful photos Steve. All my Ophrys are weeks away from flowering.
Are these early flowering Ophrys by any chance new purchases from warmer climes? I only ask because of a theory I have been discussing on another thread, (what are your wintergreens doing?).
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This is their second winter with me Steve. Most didn't flower last year even though the tubers were of decent size.
I think the hot summer followed by cool late August temperatures brought them into growth fairly early. I grow them in a heated partitioned section of the greenhouse with South African bulbs -the temperature hasn't dropped below +5C in there all winter. However I have an Ophrys helenae that I bought in late summer from "warmer climes" which only broke cover in early November -two months later than the others, I not sure whether it will flower or not.
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Ophrys leochroma
Apparently it has the common name of Lion-maned Orchid.
Stunning Ophrys (x2) Steve. Do you feed them? I used to grow a few Ophrys species but over the years they have dwindled away. Maybe in cultivation they need slightly warmer conditions to flourish. Ophyrs bombyliflora is the only one that has persisted and increased since 2007. It grows in the plunge with other bulbs in the greenhouse where it sometimes go below 0 deg C.
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Bang goes my theory!
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Thanks Cyril!
I think the heat helps. I also use an oscillating fan on a timer which seems to keep the rosettes in better health and dries off any water spills on the leaves. In the old days I lost quite a few to neck rot but this hasn't been an issue so far under the "new regime".
I've been watering with one eighth strength tomato feed and then flush alternate waterings using rain water. The compost has almost no organics but does contain a liberal sprinkling of "volcanic dust" for trace elements (or is it pixie dust with no real value?).
That said I have grown most species for only a couple of seasons, keeping them going long term is probably beyond me!
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Steve, I nipped off to the other thread to read it.
I gather you are suggesting that the "thermal shock" that a tuber experiences coming from a Greek summer to a UK autumn stimulates early growth. It sounds a reasonable theory!
Last summer I was abroad for most of July. My ophrys were in a dry sand plunge in the greenhouse with good ventilation but no shade. When I returned home I feared they would be frazzled and so I repotted them in an in-organic mix of pumice, perlite and Seramis-sustitute (Tesco cat litter). At the time I washed the cat litter and wet the perlite (to avoid inhaling the dust) but then became worried as I had potted up my orchids in a damp mix. I can't be sure but I suspect that this damp mix in clay pots may have contributed to the Ophrys rising early.
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Himantoglossum robertianum
I still think of this plant as Barlia robertiana.
I have two plants, the one below is the first to flower, is quite pale in flower but has been particularly vigorous.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/12273582764_80a263e980_o.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/12273139055_63e5cb7b3d_o.jpg)
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Ophrys leochroma
Apparently it has the common name of Lion-maned Orchid.
Mine have spikes rising. Cant wait to see the flowers
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I grow them in a heated partitioned section of the greenhouse with South African bulbs -the temperature hasn't dropped below +5C in there all winter.
The heat hasn't been on it my plunge all winter. Only one death so far
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Himantoglossum robertianum
I still think of this plant as Barlia robertiana.
I have two plants, the one below is the first to flower, is quite pale in flower but has been particularly vigorous.
We've always called it Robinson's Barley Water - not that we grow it. I think it is a super plant, often so chunky and substantial and I always enjoy sniffing the delicious fragrance when I see it on a show bench. Wonderful scent!
Might you be able to show it at the Dunblane Early Bulb Day, Steve?
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Thanks Maggie!
Unfortunately with work commitments as they currently are (my senior colleague retires this month with no replacement as yet) I won't make any weekend shows for the foreseeable future sadly! :'(
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Thanks Maggie!
Unfortunately with work commitments as they currently are (my senior colleague retires this month with no replacement as yet) I won't make any weekend shows for the foreseeable future sadly! :'(
That's a pity - on all counts.
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Steve, I nipped off to the other thread to read it.
I gather you are suggesting that the "thermal shock" that a tuber experiences coming from a Greek summer to a UK autumn stimulates early growth. It sounds a reasonable theory!
That is a brilliant summation of my theory! I just noticed over the past three years that "new" tubers from the Med started into growth up to two months earlier than old favourites, even if they were the same species. Perhaps a late English summer has temperatures equal to a Greek autumn?
I love "Barlias". Because it is so cold the flowers last for ages. The scent of my pair has been filling my greenhouse for the past couple of weeks and will for weeks to come, by which time I have another two to open. And yes, the two in flower are newbies!
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Hi,
here is my Paphiopedilum insigne f. sanderae, which spends 10 months of the year on my bathroom window sill, facing north, and looking pretty boring. It gets watered and fed occasionally and has been in the same pot for 4 years. However, around this time it springs into action and this year it got a Gold when I put it on the show table of the Thames Valley Orchid Society. :) :) :)
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Congratulations Maren!!!
A stunning orchid which clearly deserves a gold!
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Congratulations Maren!!!
A stunning orchid which clearly deserves a gold!
Isn't it just! Superb specimen, Maren.
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Hi,
here is my Paphiopedilum insigne f. sanderae However, around this time it springs into action and this year it got a Gold when I put it on the show table of the Thames Valley Orchid Society. :) :) :)
What a superbly grown plant, and a well earned award, Maren!
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Some of my australian terrestrial :
Corybas diemenica :
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(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/e811dfb0-a13c-41d3-bbd8-eea67f8ff356_zpsed4a991b.jpg)
Pterostylis curta :
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8284_zpsf8b7676c.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8286_zps16996f1a.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8288_zps481a37e1.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8290_zps9223fed7.jpg)
Pterostylis Kini (P. nutans x stricta x baptistii) :
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8292_zpse5e0534e.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8293_zps6c638911.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8294_zps1295a28b.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8296_zps0c0f68fe.jpg)
Chiloglottis truncata :
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8321_zps629204c7.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8322_zps84321f1b.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8330_zps30f1744a.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8324_zps1e6af76c.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/orchidsworld_ch/Terrestres/IMG_8327_zps8098bd1e.jpg)
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Wonderful pictures. Congratulations. :)
And thank you to everyone for their kind remarks about my paphiopedilum. It sits on my table and and there are nine little faces smiling at me while I write. :) :) :)
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Some of my australian terrestrial :
Corybas diemenica :
Pterostylis curta :
Pterostylis Kini (P. nutans x stricta x baptistii) :
Chiloglottis truncata :
Wonderful photographs. One question; I know nothing about these orchids, but why is the species name at the bottom of each photograph different to the heading, e.g. heading Corybas diemenica, photo caption Corysanthes diemenica?
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I know nothing about these orchids, but why is the species name at the bottom of each photograph different to the heading, e.g. heading Corybas diemenica, photo caption Corysanthes diemenica?
Well... The problem with australian terrestrial orchids is the name... Australian botanists give names, but Kew has other names... On the picture you have the name that is given in Australia, and heading is the name accepted by Kew... ;)
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Aha!
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Found this nice group of Barlia robertiana at a roadside yesterday I want to share with you.
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Found this nice group of Barlia robertiana at a roadside yesterday I want to share with you.
Wow! What a delight to see ! Thanks, Hans - you've made my day. I can just imagine the fragrance. 8)
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Thanks Maggi!
Here another picture of a meadow with Barlia - this is part of a personal project to augment the number of orchids in a private property (not mine) - it seems it works, every year i can count more Barlias, Ophrys and Serapias which grow here naturally - recently I discovered two more Ophrys species I did not know for this area.
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These Barlias are magnificient, thanks for showing!
I've got a couple of mediterrainian orchids in bloom in the GH; Gennaria diphylla and Serapias lingua:
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Two nice pictures Erwinia.
My Serapias are only just starting to show what I hope to be spikes way down in the rosette, but like yours my Gennaria has been flowering weeks.Funny how they flower at different times under different conditions.
All mine are kept quite dry with just the sand plunge moist.
I have read thar Serapias grow in moist areas, and I wonder if I should be watering them a little more.
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This Epidendron, flowering in the front garden, has produced a seed pod. Wonder what species of bee or wasp (?) pollinated it? I think the plant will be flowering for a while longer as I noticed a fourth spike with developing flower buds.
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hello friends,
the first (and only?) flowering from my Pterostylis this year
Diplodium (Pterostylis) truncatum
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20140416-164154-54.jpg)
the left plant made a tiny second 'flowerbud', this sometimes happens
enjoy
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Dieter very nice
Pterostylis curta in flower now six months after my first ones flowered
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Serapias vomeracea x apulica
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/2111aldo/10177382_10201488872175051_5510331541527027935_n1_zpsedb52fd9.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/2111aldo/media/10177382_10201488872175051_5510331541527027935_n1_zpsedb52fd9.jpg.html)
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A first flowering of this one for me. The flower spike has appeared after the leaves have died back giving it a lonely appearance, but it has a lovely scent.
Sorry! Something got lost.
Suppose it might help if I tell you what it is! Oreorchis patens from Asia
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So disappointed with many of mine. They have gone dormant without making replacement tubers. This applies to those, so far, that didn't flower this year
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Steve
interesting to see the oreocharis,I have been trying to flower mine for about three years with no luck so far.
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I too have had the Oreorchis patens for about three years. The leaves came up in late July. For the first time two were produced. I grow it in a mix of peat, perlite and bark, what I call my woodsy mix, which I also use for Calanthe and the small Cymbidiums. In the past I have found them to be very attractive to slugs so I have gone out of my way to protect it this year. By February the leaves were getting downright tatty but then I noticed the flower spike appearing.
So perhaps the plant I bought was too young to flower, perhaps the lack of winter has contributed, or perhaps the longer growing season due to slug protection has made the difference? I guess I will never know.
But it occurs to me that my Cremastra appendiculata which has a very similar growth pattern also flowered last year for the first time and has two spikes this year so I am thinking that young plants might have been supplied.
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Steve
similar mix to mine. Perhaps my plant is not yet mature enough.
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Listera ovata growing on Mt Olympus Greece. They were in large numbers and the most robust I have ever seen up to 90 cms high.
Sorry if they are a bit lost in the background but they are a green plant in deep shade.
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Hi,
Here's a very nice form of Bletilla striata
Picture taken at Lyon BG in a shady area.
JP
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Pogonia ophioglossoides
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Pogonia ophioglossoides
Very nice!!!
What mix do you grow it in?
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I'm afraid it is still in the original pot from Ardfearn nursery after at least two years. It looks a fairly peaty mix with grit on top but I have not investigated apart from poking the top occasionally to see if it needs water. :-[ Must try harder but with too many plants needing attention I get quite overwhelmed at times. I keep saying I must cut down but it's not easy. I keep seeing something else I MUST have and it's difficult getting rid of old favourites. Then there's the seedlings which must be grown on to flower and this forum which feeds my addiction ;D
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I'm afraid it is still in the original pot from Ardfearn nursery after at least two years. It looks a fairly peaty mix with grit on top but I have not investigated apart from poking the top occasionally to see if it needs water. :-[ Must try harder but with too many plants needing attention I get quite overwhelmed at times. I keep saying I must cut down but it's not easy. I keep seeing something else I MUST have and it's difficult getting rid of old favourites. Then there's the seedlings which must be grown on to flower and this forum which feeds my addiction ;D
Many thanks!
I've been growing mine in pure sphagnum -which is currently easy given all the rain we've been getting; but good to know that it is tolerant of a peat/grit mix.
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Dactylorhiza foliosa
Dactylorhiza sp. or hybrid
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It now seems the optimum time to take the new tubers of dactylorhiza plants in order to encourage additional ones to form and increase your stock by replanting the flowering plant and keeping it moist in shade.
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Mine are going over so quickly this year
Last year I bought D. saccifera, white and pink, off ebay. They were sent in perlite but when they arrived they had broken roots and rot had started. I got a full refund including postage which was great. I cut off all black and let them dry for a day or two. It didn't leave very much. I'm amazed they survived and flowered
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It now seems the optimum time to take the new tubers of dactylorhiza plants in order to encourage additional ones to form and increase your stock by replanting the flowering plant and keeping it moist in shade.
Bit early to do that here in NE Scotland - ours are just coming into flower - we prefer to lift them for that type of propagation when the flowers are just going over.
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Bit early to do that here in NE Scotland - ours are just coming into flower - we prefer to lift them for that type of propagation when the flowers are just going over.
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Mine have been in flower three weeks at least and I took the tubers of Eskimo Nell today and they are looking a really good size and making good roots.
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Mine have been in flower three weeks at least and I took the tubers of Eskimo Nell today and they are looking a really good size and making good roots.
Ahhh, life in the banana belt........ ;)
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Dactylorhiza saccifera. The white isn't pure white. Its interesting how the green buds change to brownish before turning white
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Ponerorchis graminifolia starts flowering.
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Nice image and nice plant Wim!
My own plant is slightly behind yours.
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Nice image and nice plant Wim!
My own plant is slightly behind yours.
Thanks Steve, looking forward to seeing a pic of yours in flower.
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Wim,
that is a beauty. Well done. :) :) :)
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Wim,
that is a beauty. Well done. :) :) :)
Thanks, Maren!
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Wim very nice.
Bletilla ochracea
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Bletilla ochracea
I like the white and soft colours in the flowers Tony.
I think I grow this species in the garden but that it failed to flower yet.
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Some terrestrial orchids from the local montane zone, from a drive last weekend... mostly pretty unimpressive ones, I'm afraid!
Corallorhiza trifida were in abundance:
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Northern twayblade, Listera borealis:
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And some more notable ones... Calypso bulbosa:
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Pretty impressive in my book Lori. 8)
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Balkan Lizard Orchid (Himantoglossum caprinum)
The flower spike is about 85cm. The effort of flowering usually results in the new tuber being too small to flower the following year so I will not see this again until 2016!
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14391572178_5fcc1ee5f3_o.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14391777377_c21f12fd24_o.jpg)
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(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3871/14576428124_8bf40872b4_o.jpg)
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But well worth the wait Steve, it's a stunner :)
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Steve
that is a wonderful plant.
Here is Platanthera psycodes which I got as a nice swap.
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Nice plant Tony!!!
I've never been able to find a source for any of the North American Platanthera.
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Steve lovely photos as usual
Regarding sourcing of American Platanthera it is difficult, due to the fact they are very hard to germinate mature seeds, which tends to be the only source for them over here in Europe.
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Steve,
fabulous Lizard and great photography. :) :) :)
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2 Ponerorchis graminifolia flowering for me.
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2 Ponerorchis graminifolia flowering for me.
Wonderfully beautiful, Pete!
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Peter very lovely.
A more modest looking one
Epipactis palustris
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A little Stenoglottis woodii
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5478/14605181756_39b5499413_b.jpg)
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Beautiful orchid, Fredg!
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Ponerorchis graminifolia
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Ponerorchis graminifolia
And a very beautiful form at that, Roma!
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A small group of Epipactis palustris
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Graham, lovely group and charming setting. :) :) :)
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Thank you Maren. :)
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Orchid seen in a hedgerow near Tenterden, Kent last month. Is this Orchis purpurea?
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Experimenting with resizing - is this bigger?
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Experimenting with resizing - is this bigger?
Yes, and still way below the limit for the forum. 8)
And I think that's a Dactylorhiza fuchsii :)
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Yes, and still way below the limit for the forum. 8)
And I think that's a Dactylorhiza fuchsii :)
Thanks. Common Spotted Orchid eh? Not something rare!
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A couple in flower today
Goodyera oblongifolia, small flowers but interesting
Calopogon tuberosus albiflorus
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Thanks. Common Spotted Orchid eh? Not something rare!
In MY book, each and every one of these beauties is a rarity to be cherished. Remember, the servant classes used to be fed vast quantities of salmon and oysters............ :-X
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In MY book, each and every one of these beauties is a rarity to be cherished. Remember, the servant classes used to be fed vast quantities of salmon and oysters............ :-X
Our servants still get salmon (only joking!). But I agree; its "Common" common name does not do it justice. All orchids are wonderful.
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I believe in plant names the word "Common" just means abundant, wide spread, easy to find etc as it used to be before we covered the countryside in chemicals - oh dear, mustn't go there. No class distinction here, methinks. ;)
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Epipactis palustris
The flowers are small and fairly numerous but reward close inspection.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5572/14572616159_4c8fb7be19_o_d.jpg)
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Hi There,
Backpacking round the Isle of Man last week I kept a keen eye out for orchids going round Point of Ayre…. Saw a few Pyramidals… all well past their ‘best before’ date.
Later in the day, with time running short, I was despatched to RUN to the shop in Jurby for provisions… As ‘luck’ would have it, that’s when I came across a population that would have merited further attention, only I didn’t even have time to ditch the rucksack whilst snatching a couple of hasty shots.
To be honest, I reckon these ones look fairly ‘fragrant’. What is the definitive difference between the two?
Tim DH
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Having been through 'back posts' with no success I decided to to put my question here. Hope nobody minds.
I just came to knock some Ophrys apifera out of the pots to examine and re-pot.
I have had them for a few years but every year the 'bulbs' are getting smaller. This year is no exception.
What am I doing wrong? What 'compost' do others grow them in? Looking at some of the pictures on here some of you obviously know what you are doing.
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Epipactis palustris
The flowers are small and fairly numerous but reward close inspection.
Another great an image Steve!
I always enjoy your close up images but we never see your garden. Do you have some photos of that show your planting schemes?
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After many years of disappointment and thoughts of moving them on I have finally managed to flower Disa uniflora. In fact two flowers. I took this photo several days ago but waited for the second to open. Unfortunately it has but is a little deformed so am settling for this single image.
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Having been through 'back posts' with no success I decided to to put my question here. Hope nobody minds.
I just came to knock some Ophrys apifera out of the pots to examine and re-pot.
I have had them for a few years but every year the 'bulbs' are getting smaller. This year is no exception.
What am I doing wrong? What 'compost' do others grow them in? Looking at some of the pictures on here some of you obviously know what you are doing.
I use the following, which works for me, in the following parts
3 potting grit
2 loam (this is from molehills on the south down and is quite open and grity)
2 perlite
2 modular clay
1 leaf mould
And I feed with Akerenes Rain Mix (http://www.orchidsupplies.co.uk/Akernes-rain-mix-orchid-food-fertilise)at every watering
My pots are also in a plunge bed.
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My mix is a whole lot more easily available! Equal parts John Innes number 2, horticultural grit, and perlite, perhaps a little fine bark for those that experience tells me like it a little damper. I use clay pots, and I am using a plunge bed as well, but when that is full I move onto benching, with no obvious down side. I tend to put my bigger pots on the benches, those with several plants in, as I guess these are less likely to dry out. I feed very very little, perhaps once a month if the conditions are suitable, that is warm and bright enough for the plants to actually be growing and I tend to use miracle grow early in the growth period and tomorite after Christmas, both very weak, perhaps 1/8 strength.
Moles seem to be very rare around here, either the ground is too dry and sandy, or heavily agricultural. I have given up trying to make leaf mould. I'd always been told to use beech or oak leaves but the damn things just don't break down. I have some which are three years old now, sliced up in the mower, put into perforated black plastic bags, kept a little damp, and still totally unusable, plus full of all manner of wee beasties.
I think apifera is one of the more difficult Ophrys, its later flowering time means that it is more susceptible to drying out if we have a hot spring.
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Epipactis palustris
The flowers are small and fairly numerous but reward close inspection.
Another great an image Steve!
I always enjoy your close up images but we never see your garden. Do you have some photos of that show your planting schemes?
Graham, you would be sadly disappointed by my garden. Much of what I grow is in pots -in frames, in a greenhouse and in an open shadehouse structure. There are a few small enclaves in the open garden with the occasional interesting thing but the bulk of my garden comprises of untidy, overgrown, leggy rhododendrons and other shrubs. The whole lot needs re-vamped but this will have to wait a few years until I retire. Meanwhile I take close-up images from carefully chosen points of view that create the false impression that I am a plantsman of some skill when the real truth is very different! :'(
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Spathoglottis ixioides, a dainty species from Eastern Himalaya with similar growing conditions as Pleiones.
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Nice accessory you have there, Khadija!
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Thank you Maggi, it is a gem isn't it? ;D
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It really is - elegant plant and intricate flower- I admit a lot of these orchids are new to me so it's exciting to see them.
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hello friends,
not so common:
Dactylorhiza fuchsii albiflora
(http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20140729-160301-507.jpg)
enjoy
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Graham, you would be sadly disappointed by my garden. Much of what I grow is in pots -in frames, in a greenhouse and in an open shadehouse structure. There are a few small enclaves in the open garden with the occasional interesting thing but the bulk of my garden comprises of untidy, overgrown, leggy rhododendrons and other shrubs. The whole lot needs re-vamped but this will have to wait a few years until I retire. Meanwhile I take close-up images from carefully chosen points of view that create the false impression that I am a plantsman of some skill when the real truth is very different! :'(
Steve
The plants you show tell a very different tale. There are some I would kill in their first year let alone get to flower. So what ever your set up you do extremely well.
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Neottianthe calcicola
A bonny wee terrestrial Sino-himalayan orchid
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/14779240995_e5ae5c4e17_o_d.jpg)
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My mix is a whole lot more easily available! Equal parts John Innes number 2, horticultural grit, and perlite, perhaps a little fine bark for those that experience tells me like it a little damper. I use clay pots, and I am using a plunge bed as well, but when that is full I move onto benching, with no obvious down side. I tend to put my bigger pots on the benches, those with several plants in, as I guess these are less likely to dry out. I feed very very little, perhaps once a month if the conditions are suitable, that is warm and bright enough for the plants to actually be growing and I tend to use miracle grow early in the growth period and tomorite after Christmas, both very weak, perhaps 1/8 strength.
Moles seem to be very rare around here, either the ground is too dry and sandy, or heavily agricultural. I have given up trying to make leaf mould. I'd always been told to use beech or oak leaves but the damn things just don't break down. I have some which are three years old now, sliced up in the mower, put into perforated black plastic bags, kept a little damp, and still totally unusable, plus full of all manner of wee beasties.
I think apifera is one of the more difficult Ophrys, its later flowering time means that it is more susceptible to drying out if we have a hot spring.
I have had them in JI No.1 so this is OK, I just need to open it up? They don't get fed ::) perhaps I've just discovered why they keep on shrinking! I figured that they might react badly living, as they often do, on 'barren' land. They can go on a regular feeding schedule once they sprout.
They have also been kept on the dry side. I take it this was also a bad idea. A more open mix will allow me to change that too.
My experiences aside, I would have thought the sort of plants you post pics of would be the difficult end not our humble apifera.
As a side note - One of the places I always see them growing is on very heavy, very wet clay. The stuff that if you walked on it would stick to your footwear in such a way that you would need to get out quick and cut the stuff off with a knife.
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I believe in plant names the word "Common" just means abundant, wide spread, easy to find etc as it used to be before we covered the countryside in chemicals - oh dear, mustn't go there. No class distinction here, methinks. ;)
Locally common is probably a better term in that I had never seen a wild Orchid in the UK until a few years ago. Like buses I can't stop seeing them now (when I'm in the right places at the right times).
In a few weeks I'll be out hunting down Boletus edulis. Odd that I can see a patch of land, even from a speeding (legal speed of course) car, and know that they will appear there at some point. I can now do the same thing with some of our native Orchids. It would be very difficult to explain to someone why they would be in one place but not another but, as far as the mushrooms are concerned, I'm never wrong, even in the middle of a town.
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A few common orchids (in the wild) ...
(http://hud357.homenet.org/orch/DA1.jpg)
(http://hud357.homenet.org/orch/pyramid.jpg)
In clay, in shade ... Just about any place ...
(http://hud357.homenet.org/orch/shade.jpg)
by the water ...
(http://hud357.homenet.org/orch/water.jpg)
and ... 'locally common' ....
(http://hud357.homenet.org/orch/common.jpg)
Orchids eh? Is there any subject author they can't make look foolish?
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The Orchids get photographed, the edulis get dried and eaten. mmm mushrooms ...
(http://hud357.homenet.org/orch/mmm.jpg)
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They have also been kept on the dry side. I take it this was also a bad idea. A more open mix will allow me to change that too.
My experiences aside, I would have thought the sort of plants you post pics of would be the difficult end not our humble apifera.
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These open mixes allow most of the water to drain through so that after watering they are not much heavier than before. Keeping them on the dry side is certainly better than keeping them too wet.
Others may disagree with me but I find all the native Ophrys to be harder than their Mediterranean cousins.
I am a recent convert to feeding my Ophrys, but this is an attempt to get a higher proportion to flower rather than increasing tuber size. I find the key to getting big tubers is to start them into growth early and to keep the plants growing for as long as possible. The lack of winter has resulted in some whoppers this year, and more than ever before doubled up, but it was not all good. As always some flowered their hearts out but failed to make a replacement. I feel that this is just something you have to accept, but it is very frustrating.
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Using an open mix for certain plants has given me a lot more confidence. I recently acquired Cyp. calceolus and being in mostly Perlite I just don't worry about how much or how often. If I think it may need some water then it gets some. (I may well come to regret this attitude at some point).
As to starting them early, I'm not sure how I would go about it. I had assumed that apifera just started when it started. Is there a way of triggering growth? I could understand triggering a Mediterranean type using cooler temps (easy in the UK!) and water, will this work with apifera too? Perhaps put it into the fridge for a week or two?
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I know that some people disagree with me but as soon as I have finished repotting, which is now in full swing, I will gently water the plunge.
Even now, without water, some of my Wintergreens, (not Ophrys) are starting to move.
On the subject of repotting below is a photo of possibly the world's most boring orchid collection Unless of course you have a thing about pots. ;D ;D ;D
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My tulip collection may be as boring!
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Possibly even more so, as all the pots are the same!
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Ralph's pots don't appear to have any labels in, so that adds an element of interest. Guess the tulip, anyone?
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They do have labels, they're just pushed down below the rim!
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Even now, without water, some of my Wintergreens, (not Ophrys) are starting to move.
I spoke too soon; several Ophrys had shoots up to an inch long, but once again it is the newly purchased ones, convincing me that the thermal shock of coming from a full blown Greek summer to an English one, albeit a hot (warm) one is what starts them into growth.
Of course that does not explain why two of the Barlias, sorry Himantoglossums, have shoots an inch out of the compost.
And all this with no water since April / May.
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Steve
Nothing here sprouting. But I do have Spiranthes Spirallis starting to put up there flower spikes a month earlier than normal.
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Since we don't seem to have a Disa thread this year, apart from Fred's pictures of massed orchids with his carnivorous plants, I thought I'd put these pictures here.
I was concerned that I would miss the flowering of the Disas this year as I was away earlier in the month (ironically in South Africa.....) but they were still mostly looking good when I got back.
1-3. Disa Watsonii Sandra: D watsonii is a grex where D. Kewensis is crossed with D. uniflora. This is one of Dave Parkinson's hybrids (you can see his massed display at Hampton Court in Stan's report elsewhere on the forum) This plant has been in the same pot for three years, I really must get around to repotting it. ::)
4&5. Disa Kewensis Alice: Another of Dave Parkinson's hybrids, it was going over and fading a bit, so I've included a picture from 2011 to give a better idea of the colour, although the black background I used has probably accentuated the depth of colour. D Kewensis is a cross between D uniflora and D tripetalloides.
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6&7. Disa Watsonii Don: Shows how variable a single grex can be. This is another of Dave Parkinson's hybrids which this year opened flat and facing upwards for some reason, so again I've put in a picture from 2011 to show what it should look like.
8. Disa Kewensis: flowering for the first time with me, this un-named clone is quite dainty, flowering at under 10cms, whilst the previous plants flower at 20-25cms and have larger flowers. My favourite this year. :D
9&10. Disa atricapilla: Obtained as a seedling from Andrew Bannister of Orchid Alchemy this spring, this unusual species has spectacularly coloured flowers of red, green and black! Lest anyone get too excited, I've enclosed a picture of the whole plant - the flower stem is too weak to hold up the inflorescence. :-\ Whether this will change in subsequent years remains to be seen...
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Hardy Terrestrial Orchids from Seed
This is an article that is part of archive of late great Jim Archibald on the main SRGC Site
( http://www.srgc.net/site/index.php/features-mainmenu-47/articles/259-the-archibald-archive (http://www.srgc.net/site/index.php/features-mainmenu-47/articles/259-the-archibald-archive))
1961 ‘Hardy Terrestrial Orchids from Seed – Some Tentative Suggestions’, SRGC Journal 28/222
http://files.srgc.net/archibald/writings/HardyterrestrialOrchids.pdf (http://files.srgc.net/archibald/writings/HardyterrestrialOrchids.pdf)
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Growing orchids from seed under sterile conditions that Jim mentions is something I've planned on doing for some time - in fact there's some of last year's Cypripedium seed (deliberate crosses) in the fridge as I write. Now that I'm semi-retired, there is some hope that it may yet be sown! ;D
In the meantime, I've obtained seed of several Disa species which are meant to be relatively easy to raise on sterile sphagnum moss, and as Jim says, they can flower in less than two years from sowing. I'll keep you posted..........
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On the earlier subject of 'common' - just noticed this post (http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=53648)over on cpukforum
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Just goes to show that there is often a huge difference between cultivation and natural environment. My Darlings became weeds here in W. Yorks grown as Sarracenias, a lot went into the compost bin earlier in the year. I would never have guessed that their natural habitat was as per the pictures in the post.
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Jack and the Beanstalk!
This Himantoglossum caprinum has been in flower since early July and is still going strong though the flower spike is now almost a metre long and a wee tad shoogly.
Fearing that it was flowering itself to death and lacking all self control I tipped it out of its pot only to find a new healthy tuber -though not as big as last year (the effort of flowering really takes it out of these plants and it will be 2 years before this plant flowers again).
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/14824537780_bc827500f8_o.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5580/15008087021_bbcb10e7ed_o.jpg)
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An amazing inflorescence Steve. 8)
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Great photos everyone
I couldnt see my Spiranthes flowers and couldn't remember where I had put the pot :o :o ::) After a few days searching I found the pot on its side and not much showing and the contents totally dry. They have somehow managed to keep healthy tubers. Just now they are in damp sand. What should I do with them now?
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Mark as they are fine pot them up in the same mix as you are using for the Ophrys
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OK, I'll do that tomorrow
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A rather late flower on Habenaria radiata
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5611/15572576775_1e7e17b451_o.jpg)
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On the weekend we had our meeting at Olinda in the Dandenongs and as Will and I arrived one of the other members was examining a large clump of "Potato Orchids" or "Cinnamon Bells", Gastrodia sesamoides, at the base of a tree in the "car park". I hadn't seen this for years - impossible in cultivation as far as I know as it's saprophytic
cheers
fermi
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Jack and the Beanstalk!
This Himantoglossum caprinum has been in flower since early July and is still going strong though the flower spike is now almost a metre long and a wee tad shoogly.
Fearing that it was flowering itself to death and lacking all self control I tipped it out of its pot only to find a new healthy tuber -though not as big as last year (the effort of flowering really takes it out of these plants and it will be 2 years before this plant flowers again).
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/14824537780_bc827500f8_o.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5580/15008087021_bbcb10e7ed_o.jpg)
This is amazing! Where do you keep it / where are you? In what type of compost?
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On the weekend we had our meeting at Olinda in the Dandenongs and as Will and I arrived one of the other members was examining a large clump of "Potato Orchids" or "Cinnamon Bells", Gastrodia sesamoides, at the base of a tree in the "car park". I hadn't seen this for years - impossible in cultivation as far as I know as it's saprophytic
cheers
fermi
I know little about these plants and was interested to learn more - I may not be alone in this- so here are a couple of links to start off with: http://www.oznativeplants.com/plantdetail/Potato-Orchid/Gastrodia/sesamoides/zz.html (http://www.oznativeplants.com/plantdetail/Potato-Orchid/Gastrodia/sesamoides/zz.html)
and it seems these charmers are found in New Zealand, too....
http://www.nativeorchids.co.nz/Gastrodia-guide-100106.pdf (http://www.nativeorchids.co.nz/Gastrodia-guide-100106.pdf)
http://www.nativeorchids.co.nz/Species/Gastrodia_sesamoides.html (http://www.nativeorchids.co.nz/Species/Gastrodia_sesamoides.html)
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Steve
terrific to see it still in flower and even better that it has made a new tuber. Lovely photograph as usual.
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This is amazing! Where do you keep it / where are you? In what type of compost?
Thanks!
I grow it under unheated glass in a large clay pot. The compost is a very open mix of pumice/perlite/coarse silica sand with a small amount of added loam and some dolomitic lime.
The new rosette starts to grow in mid October but stops during the worst of the winter cold before continuing to grow in the Spring. It is important to keep the plant cool and in growth for as long as possible in Spring/early Summer to ensure new tuber formation, even then the effort of flowering usually results in a new non-flowering tuber which needs a year to recover.
I placed the pot in my garden to take the photographs. My garden is in West Fife -about 15 miles east of Stirling.
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so many times I've been tempted to buy that orchid from ebay or other sellers. Next year for sure
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Thanks!
I grow it under unheated glass in a large clay pot. The compost is a very open mix of pumice/perlite/coarse silica sand with a small amount of added loam and some dolomitic lime.
The new rosette starts to grow in mid October but stops during the worst of the winter cold before continuing to grow in the Spring. It is important to keep the plant cool and in growth for as long as possible in Spring/early Summer to ensure new tuber formation, even then the effort of flowering usually results in a new non-flowering tuber which needs a year to recover.
I placed the pot in my garden to take the photographs. My garden is in West Fife -about 15 miles east of Stirling.
Thanks a lot, it sounds like you know them inside out .... fantastic job. I am quite envious!
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There is now a Terrestrial orchids 2015 thread :)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12938.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12938.0)