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Chaloupkaea and Rosularia
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March 09, 2016, 07:01:19 PM »
The genus
Chaloupkaea
is established here.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289984939_Chaloupkaea_Crassulaceae
The image
http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/Photos/Garden2010/rosulariaaizoon.html
presented by Mojmír Pavelka in his pages
probably shows the species described by me as
Chaloupkaea
bonorum-hominum
alias
Rosularia bonorum-hominum
.
http://www.skalnicky-brno.cz/doc/72skalnickaruv_rok.pdf#page=44
My plants are more hairy and cauline leaves are red.
Image photographed in his garden provided by Mojmír Martan
Similar
Chaloupkaea rechingeri
alias
Rosularia rechingeri
has coniderably shorter calyces.
http://herbarium.univie.ac.at/database/detail.php?ID=461350
http://jacq.nhm-wien.ac.at/djatoka/jacq-viewer/viewer.html?rft_id=w_19650016702&identifiers=w_19650016702
Real
Chaloupkaea aizoon
alias
Rosularia aizoon
is this species.
http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/Photos/MakedonieNepalTurecko2013/rosulariaaizoon2600mbolkardagturkey.html
The images
http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/Photos/Garden2010/rosulariaspexturkey.html
and
http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/Photos/Garden2010/rosulariaspexturkey2.html
show the species described by me as
Sedum strobiliforme
.
http://www.skalnicky-brno.cz/doc/72skalnickaruv_rok.pdf#page=47
I described the taxon circulated as
Rosularia rechingeri
Küpe Dag as
Chaloupkaea
pisidica
alias
Rosularia pisidica
.
http://www.skalnicky-brno.cz/doc/72skalnickaruv_rok.pdf#page=41
Its origin is still unknown to me. I would greatly appreciate any relevant information.
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Re: Chaloupkaea and Rosularia
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Reply #1 on:
March 11, 2016, 10:05:33 AM »
Umbilicus haussknechtii
Boiss. et Reut. in Fl. Orient. 2: 774. 1882
http://bibdigital.rjb.csic.es/ing/Libro.php?Libro=1428&Pagina=779
the basionym of
Rosularia haussknechtii
(Boiss. & Reut.) A.Berger
was described as follows
19.
U. Haussknechtii
(Boiss. et Reut.) patule papilloso-hirtus,
caulibus brevibus in racemum brevem ovatum abeuntibus, foliis ro-
sularum lineari-spathulatis ciliatis, caulinis linearibus longissimis
crebris, pedicellis flore brevioribus, calycis patule hirsuti corolla plus
dimidio brevioris laciniis lineari-lanceolatis acutis, corollae hirsute
ochroleucae tubuloso-campanulatae ad quartam partem fěssae laciniis ovatis
acuminatis
Hab. in fissuris rupium calcarearum regionis calidae ad Mar Jacob supra
Orfa Mesopotamiae (Haussk !). Fl. Mart.
Folia rosularum 8-9 lin. longa apice 2 lata, caulina pollicem et amplius
longa 1 Ľ lin. lata, caules 2-4-pollicares, flores 3-4 lineas longi. A binis
prae-
cedentibus foliis caulinis longissimis angustis, corollae lobis brevibus,
etc.,
distinctus.
spreading papillose coarsely hairy
with short stems transient to short racemes,
with rosette leaves linear-spathulate ciliate,
with cauline leaves linear extremely long dense,
with short flower-stalks,
with linear-lanceolate acute lobes of spreading hirsute calyx more than
twice shorter than corolla,
with ovate acuminate lobes of hirsute ochroleucous tubulose-campanulate
corolla divided to a quarter.
Rosette leaves 8-9 lin. [= 16-18 mm] long, at the apex 2 lin. [= 4 mm]
broad, cauline leaves an inch or more long 1 Ľ lin. [= 2 1/2 mm] broad,
stems 2-4 in. long [= 5-10 cm], flowers 3-4 lin. [= 6-8 mm] long.
From both preceding distinct in extremely long narrow cauline leaves,
short corolla lobes etc.
Yellow flower-colour was observed by Haussknecht in situ.
original Haussknecht's scheda
In contrast, Chamberlain and Muirhead in Flora of Turkey wrote the following.
Flowers sessile, pink; calyx c. 4 mm; corolla 6-12 mm,
lobes 1-1 1/2 x as long as tube;
Their observation is based on a specimen in E
http://data.rbge.org.uk/herb/E00361529
which in reality doesn't
represent
Rosularia haussknechtii
. I described it as
Rosularia
pseudohaussknechtii
.
http://www.skalnicky-brno.cz/doc/72skalnickaruv_rok.pdf#page=39
I am curious when my clear arguments are accepted by botanists.
Key
haussknechtii
pseudohaussknechtii
corolla lobes
three times shorter than
as long as or longer than
corolla tube
corolla
pale yellow
pink
cauline leaves
25 mm long, longer
4-9 mm long, shorter
than rosette leaves
dry rosette leaves
3 mm broad
1-1.5 mm broad
caudex
robust
slender
habitat
<900 m
>1700 m
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Last Edit: March 15, 2016, 06:56:54 PM by Great Moravian
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Re: Chaloupkaea and Rosularia
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Reply #2 on:
March 14, 2016, 09:22:24 AM »
I add croppings from the images of
Rosularia haussknechtii
provided by herbarium W
http://herbarium.univie.ac.at/database/detail.php?ID=460709
and of
Rosularia pseudohaussknechtii
provided by herbarium E
http://data.rbge.org.uk/herb/E00361529
for comparison.
Rosularia haussknechtii
is not in cultivation.
In my opinion, such usage complies copyright regulations.
If not, remove the images.
The above links are sufficient.
The flowers are totally different.
haussknechtii
pseudohaussknechtii
Caudices are totally different too.
haussknechtii
pseudohaussknechtii
Perfect images of the specimens in herbarium G showing the short petal lobes
and relatively short sepals are not available to the public yet
and therefore I cannot use them for illustration.
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Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 11:19:17 AM by Great Moravian
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Re: Chaloupkaea and Rosularia
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Reply #3 on:
April 08, 2016, 11:29:50 AM »
Chaloupkaea muratdaghensis
alias
Rosularia muratdaghensis
was discussed elsewhere.
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg328792#msg328792
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg328795#msg328795
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329068#msg329068
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329079#msg329079
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329086#msg329086
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329102#msg329102
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329185#msg329185
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329710#msg329710
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9420.msg329880#msg329880
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Re: Chaloupkaea and Rosularia
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Reply #4 on:
April 08, 2016, 11:42:03 AM »
Perhaps somebody has anything to say about rosularias
, others
then the commonly grown
Chaloupkaea chrysantha
alias
Rosularia chrysantha
, which is often incorrectly labelled as
Rosularia pallida
, the latter being in fact a synonym of
a different species, namely
Chaloupkaea aizoon
alias
Rosularia aizoon
. I would like to know which plants
are in cultivation.
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