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Title: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 01, 2021, 11:27:12 AM
Hello,
and Happy New Year to everybody!
First Hepatica Flower this year

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Hepatica japonica 'Hakurin'


Kind regards from Austria,
Patrick
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 01, 2021, 07:02:08 PM
Hello,
and Happy New Year to everybody!
First Hepatica Flower this year

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Hepatica japonica 'Hakurin'


Kind regards from Austria,
Patrick
Patrick, nice Hepatica to start the growing season!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on January 03, 2021, 10:34:54 AM
Wow Patrick that's early. Ours are in a very frosty frame at the moment.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 04, 2021, 07:32:20 PM
Yes this is early Shelagh,  but it is totally different from variety to variety
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on January 06, 2021, 10:35:30 AM
Patrick having looked more closely at the enlarged picture I love it's little freckles of colour I don't think I've seen one like that before.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on January 06, 2021, 07:06:39 PM
Posted elsewhere  by  Glenn Shapiro, National Collection Holder : http://www.hazelwoodfarm.co.uk

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Hepatica  transsilvanica 'Hazelwood Grace'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 07, 2021, 10:31:48 AM
Patrick having looked more closely at the enlarged picture I love it's little freckles of colour I don't think I've seen one like that before.

Shelag, maybe the little freckles are from the substrate  ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 07, 2021, 11:21:17 PM
How very nice to have Hepatica flowers to start the new year! And both snow-white :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 09, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
Another two white ones.
Hepatica japonica 'Yumegokoti' and a seedling of japonica x pyrenaica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 09, 2021, 06:20:39 PM
Hepatica transsylvanica 'Winterfreunde' breaks the snow.
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Hepatica nobilis doubles in the greenhouse.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 09, 2021, 08:03:56 PM
Beautiful flowers Carsten.
What‘s the name of the two filled nobilis or are they nameless?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on January 09, 2021, 08:26:24 PM
Beautiful!
I can't believe your Hepatica season has already started, here is will be cold and snow at least two more months.
Thank you for showing pictures of your Hepaticas. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 09, 2021, 08:37:26 PM
What‘s the name of the two filled nobilis or are they nameless?
The two nobilis have no names, just a collection number.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 10, 2021, 09:52:47 AM
Another two white ones.
Hepatica japonica 'Yumegokoti' and a seedling of japonica x pyrenaica.
Carsten, japonica x pyrenaica is very impressive, especially the anthers. Probably it is better for the garden as japonica. I have a Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica in our garden that flowers well but it is sterile https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17578.150  « Reply #156 on: March 16, 2020, 03:22:32 PM »
Is yours fertile?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 10, 2021, 09:56:48 AM
Hepatica transsylvanica breaks the snow.
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Hepatica nobilis doubles in the greenhouse.
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Carsten, that Hepatica transsylvanica is very early. Is it ‘Blumenstadt Erfurt’?
Beautiful picture with the snow!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 10, 2021, 11:05:01 AM
Carsten, japonica x pyrenaica is very impressive, especially the anthers. Probably it is better for the garden as japonica. I have a Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica in our garden that flowers well but it is sterile https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17578.150  « Reply #156 on: March 16, 2020, 03:22:32 PM »
Is yours fertile?
Dear Herman, it is the first flower, so I don´t know. At first glance I would say yes. I have some 20 seedlings of this cross and I will test them in the garden this year. Yours is a very good bloomer!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 10, 2021, 11:07:46 AM
Carsten, that Hepatica transsylvanica is very early. Is it ‘Blumenstadt Erfurt’?
Beautiful picture with the snow!
It is 'Winterfreunde' and I edited the post.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 10, 2021, 11:16:54 AM
Here is the same plant before the snow in Dezember.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 10, 2021, 02:41:14 PM
Another two white ones.
Hepatica japonica 'Yumegokoti' and a seedling of japonica x pyrenaica.


So beautiful both of them but I am very partial to the seedlings :) and to all Hepatica simple flowers with colored anthers.

And H. transs. 'Winterfreunde' is a dream! I raised a few seedlings, non-flowering yet; I hope the cold would keep them dormant when they'll reach flowering age.
How cold it is in you region right now?




Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 10, 2021, 02:45:59 PM
It is 'Winterfreunde' and I edited the post.
Here ‘Winterfreude’ is still dormant. We have had the last two days  some frost (-3°C) but no snow. We are about 10m above sea level. Today there was some sun, but the temperature was to low to open some new  flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 10, 2021, 02:46:09 PM
No flowering is possible here, like Leena says at least until April outdoors.
So, we admire the foliage when possible :) Friday was a good hiking day: sunny, albeit quite cold. On slopes with enough light the snow is starting to melt.
Hepatica americana winter foliage.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 10, 2021, 02:50:23 PM
No flowering is possible here, like Leena says at least until April outdoors.
So, we admire the foliage when possible :) Friday was a good hiking day: sunny, albeit quite cold. On slopes with enough light the snow is starting to melt.
Hepatica americana winter foliage.
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Gabriela, very nice leaves!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 10, 2021, 02:59:23 PM
Thank you Herman.
Most often H. americana foliage is marbled in exposed situations, although few specimens can retain green color, or have uniform reddish leaves.

I don't know what flowers these plants have; it is a hillside I still have to explore in the spring!  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on January 10, 2021, 04:01:18 PM
Gabriela, very nice leaves. Last summer I noticed some wild H.nobilis had marbled leaves in spring and early summer, but later in autumn they were even coloured. I have some plants that I will keep an eye on to see if they are marbled again next spring/summer.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on January 10, 2021, 04:02:43 PM
So beautiful both of them but I am very partial to the seedlings :) and to all Hepatica simple flowers with colored anthers.

And H. transs. 'Winterfreunde' is a dream! I raised a few seedlings, non-flowering yet; I hope the cold would keep them dormant when they'll reach flowering age.
How cold it is in you region right now?

We had double-digit minusgrades for some nights, not below -12C. Light frost during daytime and the snow is melting in the sun. As autumn was mild, many Hepaticas outside started to grow a little bit and some even had flower buds coming up.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 10, 2021, 07:12:08 PM
Gabriela, very nice leaves. Last summer I noticed some wild H.nobilis had marbled leaves in spring and early summer, but later in autumn they were even coloured. I have some plants that I will keep an eye on to see if they are marbled again next spring/summer.

Leena, for H. americana only the winter foliage looks like this, the new leaves will be green. Haven't seen any H. americana with marbled leaves during growth.
Maybe some crosses of H.americana with H. nobilis var. pyrenaica or japonica cv. will have this nice feature.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 10, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
We had double-digit minusgrades for some nights, not below -12C. Light frost during daytime and the snow is melting in the sun. As autumn was mild, many Hepaticas outside started to grow a little bit and some even had flower buds coming up.

Thank you Carsten, it is quite cold; even in our region when it gets below -12/-15C it is considered a bit too much (it can get even lower especially when we get into
a polar vortex, but not always happens). I am glad to hear H. trann. 'Winterfreude' behaves well at these temp.

I also noticed some H. nobilis and H. japonica with advanced flower buds when I put them in the cold frame. H. americana and acutiloba know better to be patient.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: YT on January 11, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
This year's annual national hepatica show in Tokyo has been cancelled due to the COVID-19, organiser said.  :(

Stay safe ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 12, 2021, 07:37:11 PM
Unfortunately the hepatica show in vienna was also cancelled this year.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 13, 2021, 06:32:52 PM
Hepatica japonica 'Hanaguruma'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 14, 2021, 12:12:58 AM
This year's annual national hepatica show in Tokyo has been cancelled due to the COVID-19, organiser said.  :(
Stay safe ;)

Sad new for all Tatsuo. Will have to re-watch the pictures from previous years; at least we have those!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 14, 2021, 12:13:32 AM
Hepatica japonica 'Hanaguruma'

Another beauty.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 14, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Here are some interesting movies about Hepatica:

Hepatica nobilis var. obtusa (americana):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuOf_ZkEYuI

Hepatica nobilis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaYLvB_TQc

Hepatica nobilis var. acuta (acutiloba): 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ314vcp4vk

Hepatica japonica:

 Part 1:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0CsY0Dj3w

 Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v6pdAFvOeM

 Part 3:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95-pwBxSONw

 Part 4:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylol7p5d14w

 Part 5:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzU_FMz5qWw

 Part 6:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM87iKGdiXc

 Part 7 :   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54lQe_Cwbc

 Part 8:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNfmKr9JrCk

 Part 9:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2-7C8adEaY

 Part 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwV9ByOMfQ8

I hope you enjoy them!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: ruweiss on January 14, 2021, 08:55:53 PM
Simply beautiful. Many thanks Herman.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 15, 2021, 07:53:51 PM
Herman thank you for these videos.

Here are a few more very interesting clips. Unfortunately I don´t understand japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyj36ycP5Nc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCebb735Ga8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ456slojaY
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on January 16, 2021, 03:23:27 PM
Herman those videos of all the different types were wonderful, made us realise how many slight differences you could get.

Patrick that was very interesting. Brian watched it through wincing at the drastic treatment he was giving the plants. He said he will bring our Hepaticas in and show it to them and threaten them with that treatment if they don't flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 17, 2021, 10:21:47 AM
Haha Shelag, obviously he makes everything right. When you see these healty plants!

But also for me it is hard to believe, when you see how many injuries he inflicts on the plants..

Maybe these injuris stimulate growth?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 17, 2021, 02:14:37 PM
Well, that was interesting to watch! I was mostly surprised to see what a large part of roots he cut out for transplanting.

Does someone know what kind of balm they are using to protect the injury spots when dividing? This was also something new for me. Always something to learn.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 17, 2021, 07:22:54 PM
Gabriela I think he uses this paste.

https://www.bonsai.de/pflegepaste-p-365.html
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on January 17, 2021, 07:25:49 PM
Gabriela I think he uses this paste.

https://www.bonsai.de/pflegepaste-p-365.html
Oh yes, well spotted, that's the  tube  the  Japanese  grower  showed!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on January 17, 2021, 11:11:11 PM
Gabriela I think he uses this paste.

https://www.bonsai.de/pflegepaste-p-365.html

Thanks! I thought it was something very special just for Hepatica given that they are so passionate about them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on January 28, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
again a few photos of flowering plants.

Hepatica nobilis Flora Plena 'Ladislav' or 'Typ Czech'

Hepatica japonica red 'Nidan'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 29, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Very nice Hepatica, Patrick. Here it is too much rain every day.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 01, 2021, 04:23:00 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Selma' and a nobilis seedling.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 01, 2021, 04:26:53 PM
Hepatica nobilis plena forms, unnamed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 01, 2021, 04:29:09 PM
So perfect doubles!
It is nice that your flowering season has started, it is treat to look at pictures of flowers when mine are still so far away:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 01, 2021, 04:36:20 PM
Colour range of Hepatica japonica.
'Kibani'
'Hikogami'
and two unnamed
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2021, 05:45:27 PM
Oh my! The colours are  fantastic.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 01, 2021, 05:50:43 PM
Very beautiful flowers Carsten!
For me the last one is the best, but also the yellow one.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 02, 2021, 08:08:25 AM
Very beautiful Hepatica, Carsten! I like the most: Hepatica nobilis 'Selma' and the unnamed one. They have both very special colour for a nobilis form.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 02, 2021, 08:43:06 AM
Fantastic series Carsten !  Not only the flowers are amazing but your photography is just as brilliant !
Thanks for showing these !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 02, 2021, 07:01:39 PM
They are all gorgeous!
And those in need can easily warm up from the bright colors :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 05, 2021, 06:13:21 PM
The Hepaticas are waking up in the garden. Too bad the weather will be worse tomorrow.

Hepatica yamatutai
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 07, 2021, 06:21:35 PM
Beautiful Hepatica flowers all. I have to wait till May to get some flowers. Carsten your Hepatica nobilis Selma is  fantastic. I got one seedling from your precious selma seeds.  Hope to see the seedling emerging this spring from under the snow!!.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 08, 2021, 03:41:10 PM
Hepatica nobilis Alba Plena Type 'Ireland' flowers before winter is coming again...


Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 08, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Hepatica nobilis Alba Plena Type 'Ireland' flowers before winter is coming again...
Patrick, this Hepatica looks very promising. Here it is heavy winter now. A lot of snow and temperature during the day still minus zero, this will probably be so for the whole week.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 08, 2021, 06:22:26 PM
Nice to see more Hepatica flowers, either simple or doubles!
Hopefully your H. yamatutai won't be affected by the cold Herman.

We are in a polar vortex currently, it seems I may have chosen a bad year to try young H. japonica in the ground. There is snow but surely not enough for constant night temp. under -15C over a long period (down to -21C forecasted).
Luckily I managed to bring in the garage some of the potted Hepaticas and they seem OK after defrosting.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 09, 2021, 04:18:00 AM
HI Gabriela your -21C seems warmer to me. In Saskatoon we are further down with -35C and with wind chill more than -40C. The polar vortex is going to stay here for 5 more days!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 09, 2021, 09:23:01 AM
Here we have at night -10°C. It has been since 2012 that there has been a week with temperature below or around zero during the day and at least 3 nights below -10°C. Lucky for the plants that there is some snow. I will be glad that this week will be over.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 09, 2021, 10:36:16 AM
We are in a polar vortex currently, it seems I may have chosen a bad year to try young H. japonica in the ground. There is snow but surely not enough for constant night temp. under -15C over a long period (down to -21C forecasted).

Here it is the same, and I keep my fingers crossed that all Hepaticas will survive. I have dry oak leaf protection over them and then there is about 40cm snow over them so I hope that is enough. The lowest here this winter has been -23, but it has been several week now temperatures below -10 (and mostly around -15C), and it seems like it will be the same all February. Beautiful sunny days though.

Snow is good, but I kind of envy winters like Herman's when cold and snow last only a week or two, but of course cold may do more damage when plants are more advanced.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on February 09, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
The hepaticas are hardy are they not? At least the ones in our forests survive here. All nobilis. I assume that the American and transylvanica also withstand cold with snow. If there is snow on top I presume they stand cold quite well. Cold and no snow and a bit of wind may dry out the plants. I put some Christmas tree branches on top of my hepaticas, mostly to secure against cats digging but now it is covered in snow so I am quite happy I cut down 25 Christmas trees from the neighbourhood, spreading the branches on the ground as protection against cat and cold. Not all 25trees cover my hepaticas as I have not so many yet. Hopefully the seeds I scatter will change that :)
Sowing in pots have not yet shown any results. In the summerhouse the ants help but here I secure the seeds.
Hope to see pictures from those of you that grow in greenhouse soon.

Hopefully the japonica that you have planted in the ground will make it to the spring.

Leena do you have nobilis native around where you live or are you to far north?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 11, 2021, 10:49:58 AM
Leena do you have nobilis native around where you live or are you to far north?

Hi Joakim, there are native H.nobilis here, but just in my region they are not very common. I know only couple of places where they grow naturally. Luckily in our own land there is a small group of them, blue and pink ones, but they were planted there by the previous owner of this property in 1980s. H.nobilis doesn't mind the cold here, not even without snow, but in the wild I have never seen as big clumps as to how big they get in my woodland bed. In the wild they are mostly only couple of flower stems per plant. Deer like to eat Hepaticas so it may be also because of deer Hepaticas are not so big and common in my region. There are a lot of deer!

I don't protect H.nobilis for the winter, but I do H.japonicas, and I put some protection over H.americana and H.acutiloba, just in case, because I'm not sure how hardy they are if there is not enough snow. H.transsylvanica is also hardy here, even without snow, I have never had any frost damage to them (in ten years).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 11, 2021, 06:16:57 PM
Here it is the same, and I keep my fingers crossed that all Hepaticas will survive. I have dry oak leaf protection over them and then there is about 40cm snow over them so I hope that is enough. The lowest here this winter has been -23, but it has been several week now temperatures below -10 (and mostly around -15C), and it seems like it will be the same all February. Beautiful sunny days though.

Snow is good, but I kind of envy winters like Herman's when cold and snow last only a week or two, but of course cold may do more damage when plants are more advanced.

I only worry about the newly planted H. japonica Leena which don't have an established root system and of course all the pots which are above ground.
Our snow cover is much less and the cold will continue toward late February. We usually don't get temp. below -15C for such long periods of time.
But we can only hope for the best :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 11, 2021, 08:09:22 PM
I only worry about the newly planted H. japonica Leena which don't have an established root system and of course all the pots which are above ground.
But we can only hope for the best :)

Fingers crossed! I have also some Hepatica seedlings planted out only last autumn, mostly they are H.americana and H.acutiloba from your seeds, which I think should do ok, but this has been a cold winter.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 13, 2021, 09:53:12 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Czech Form' full open flower.
Hepatica japonica 'Kouten' and 'Kibani'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 13, 2021, 10:06:58 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Czech Form' full open flower.
Hepatica japonica 'Kouten' and 'Kibani'
Patrick, it is great to see some Hepatica. Here everything is still frozen and covered with some snow. But weather is changing, Monday last night of frost, after that the day temperature will rise back above 10°C. So we look forward!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 13, 2021, 04:17:57 PM
Last night I had -0,5 C in the greenhouse and during daytime some 14 C with lot of sunshine. Some pics from today.
Two Hepatica japonica seedlings
Hepatica japonica 'Touyama shigure'
Hepatica japonica unnamed
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 13, 2021, 04:28:10 PM
Not yet fully opened but promising.
And tiny seedlings from 2018...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 13, 2021, 04:36:11 PM
Wonderful to see new H. japonica in flower!

I particularly like the 'Kibani' flower style Patrick.

Carsten: it is so exciting to await the bloom of new seedlings :) They are very beautiful.
I suppose you added the moss in the container?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 13, 2021, 04:39:31 PM
Fingers crossed! I have also some Hepatica seedlings planted out only last autumn, mostly they are H.americana and H.acutiloba from your seeds, which I think should do ok, but this has been a cold winter.

Yes, fingers crossed Leena. Mature plants of americana and acutiloba are very hardy, even in winters with almost no snow cover they are OK. But small plants are not that well rooted.
You have a healthy snow covered though, so I don't think they will be harmed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 13, 2021, 04:42:56 PM
Gabriela, the moss takes over the needle litter after a while. These seedlings were sown in 2018 and not yet picked out. I need to replant them soon.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 13, 2021, 05:20:12 PM
Carsten, very nice seedlings. Why do you use needle litter on top?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on February 13, 2021, 06:01:58 PM
Not yet fully opened but promising.

Very promising indeed, Carsten. Lovely red and white combination.

Still very cold here -10 C to -14 C every night for several weeks now. I'm worried  :(.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 13, 2021, 06:24:57 PM
Herman, I sow my seeds on top of a mineral mix of Seramis, pumice and Zeolithe and cover the seeds with a layer of shredded and composted needle litter, about 1 cm. I can keep this moist and airy without being too wet. But sometimes it is overgrown by moss.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 13, 2021, 06:27:18 PM
Very promising indeed, Carsten. Lovely red and white combination.

Gunilla, only the tiny ones are my seedlings. I bought the other two last spring in Japan.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 13, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
Herman, I sow my seeds on top of a mineral mix of Seramis, pumice and Zeolithe and cover the seeds with a layer of shredded and composted needle litter, about 1 cm. I can keep this moist and airy without being too wet. But sometimes it is overgrown by moss.
Carsten, is this composted needle litter not too acid? I use needle litter to germinate Trillium undulatum.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on February 13, 2021, 08:14:29 PM
Gunilla, only the tiny ones are my seedlings. I bought the other two last spring in Japan.

I'm sure you soon have seedlings from those two as well  ;) and the tiny ones are also nice.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 13, 2021, 08:15:58 PM
Gabriela, the moss takes over the needle litter after a while. These seedlings were sown in 2018 and not yet picked out. I need to replant them soon.

Thank you Carsten. I've seen the same on various Hepatica pots showed from the Japan shows and I thought that people are adding the moss.

I read about how you use the pine needle compost just on top of the sowing mix. It is interesting. It would be impossible here to have that kind of sowing mix with seramis, zeolithe....they are not available.
I found that adding a healthy amount of perlite to any good soil mix produces good results with the exception that it can dry out too fast in the summer (we can have very hot summers).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 14, 2021, 03:00:28 AM
Hepatica acutiloba and americana are hardy in our zone 3A garden.
Our winters are brutal . Almost every year at least one week Saskatoon gets -35C . Still they survive.
Gabriela:  Hepatica seedlings I got from your seeds are under 2 feet snow. Hope they will survive this winter.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2021, 08:45:45 AM
Thank you Carsten. I've seen the same on various Hepatica pots showed from the Japan shows and I thought that people are adding the moss.

I read about how you use the pine needle compost just on top of the sowing mix. It is interesting. It would be impossible here to have that kind of sowing mix with seramis, zeolithe....they are not available.
I found that adding a healthy amount of perlite to any good soil mix produces good results with the exception that it can dry out too fast in the summer (we can have very hot summers).
Gabriela, have you ever tried vermiculite? Vermiculite keeps better water than perlite.

Perlite
The snow-white granular particles of perlite are a form of volcanic glass. Each particle contains about 6 percent of water. Heated quickly to 1,600 to 1,700 degrees F, each grain will burst, much like popcorn. Perlite contains no seeds, disease or insects. It has a neutral pH. The large surface area of the particles is covered with tiny cavities that hold plant nutrients and moisture. Air passages between the particles provide drainage and aeration.
Vermiculite
Vermiculite, a silicate mineral resembling mica, was ordinarily marketed in the form of brown cubes. It is able to retain moisture and plant nutrients. It has a neutral pH, but its reaction is alkaline. Vermiculite is mined in the United State, Brazil, Zimbabwe, China and South Africa. The color, composition and pH of vermiculite varies from mine to mine. The vermiculite mined in South Africa is known for its ability to exfoliate--that is, to expand to many times its original volume when heated. Vermiculite can hold potassium, calcium, magnesium and ammonium needed for growing plants. It is light, easy to handle and mixes well with other ingredients of potting mixes including pesticides and herbicides.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 14, 2021, 09:16:00 AM
Thank you for these great photos Carsten! The 4. flower from your 1. posting look‘s very beautiful. I like the dark antheres! 

The red colour from your Shinku seedlings is top!
How big is your pot, and how many seeds give you inside?

Kind regards,
Patrick
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 14, 2021, 09:28:06 AM
Thank you from me too, Carsten. There are so much variation in Hepatica flowers!
My favourites were also the fourth one in the first posting, and the red and white seedlings look amazing,
but really all are beautiful!
I can't wait to see how my plants have survived the winter, but it will be two more months to wait.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 14, 2021, 09:29:56 AM
Hepatica acutiloba and americana are hardy in our zone 3A garden.
Our winters are brutal . Almost every year at least one week Saskatoon gets -35C . Still they survive.

Thank you Kris for encouragement:). I should have planted my seedlings in the spring, so they would have have time to root properly,
but last autumn was long, so I hope for the best.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 12:30:52 PM
Carsten, is this composted needle litter not too acid? I use needle litter to germinate Trillium undulatum.
Herman, I don't know about the ph level. It just works for me with Hepaticas and some other woodlanders.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 12:37:07 PM
Thank you for these great photos Carsten! The 4. flower from your 1. posting look‘s very beautiful. I like the dark antheres! 

The red colour from your Shinku seedlings is top!
How big is your pot, and how many seeds give you inside?

Kind regards,
Patrick

Patrick, I use plastic pots 10 x10x x 9 from 'Sima'. I sow up to 50 seeds in one pot but some 20 might be better. Many pots are too crowded but the seedlings are easily splitted as of the mineral compost I use.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2021, 02:37:28 PM
Herman, I don't know about the ph level. It just works for me with Hepaticas and some other woodlanders.
Thank you Carsten. Here snow starts to melt, but soil is still frozen.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 03:11:20 PM
Patrick, I use plastic pots 10 x10x x 9 from 'Sima'. I sow up to 50 seeds in one pot but some 20 might be better. Many pots are too crowded but the seedlings are easily splitted as of the mineral compost I use.

Pots from 2019 and 2018.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2021, 03:28:16 PM
Pots from 2019 and 2018.
Carsten, good germination! Your method seems to work very good. But a lot of work to separate all those seedlings and a lot of space to put all the pots. Always waiting till the Hepatica’s have flowered, especially for your crossings.
You will probably also have a good bookkeeping for if you want to know how a certain result came about.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 03:38:37 PM
Herman, yes crossings must be documented on the label and in a separate seed booklet. As results often occur only in the F2 generation it gets quite extensive, to overlook all the seedlings until they are checked with their own seedlings outcome.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 04:21:22 PM
Another cold but sunny day. These plants in the greenhouse are for exchange ;-)

2 Hepatica pubescens ex 'Hohobeni'
3 Hepatica japonica seedlings
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 04:36:43 PM
Hepatica yamatutai ex. 'pinkbacked'
Hepatica japonica ex. 'Yukishino'
Hepatica japonica 'Ukigumo'
2 Hepatica japonica seedlings

These are for exchange, too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2021, 04:48:00 PM
Nice Hepatica's Carsten! I am interested in yamatutai ex pinkbacked.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 05:11:30 PM
It's yours ;-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 14, 2021, 05:16:19 PM
Some of the pictures taken in the greenhouse today.

The last one is a japonica seedling that reminds me of Myosotis, almost as tiny.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 14, 2021, 05:31:29 PM
Carsten your  beautiful Hepaticas  reminds  me that winter will be out soon. Too bad in my weather I can't grow any of these gems.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2021, 05:52:06 PM
It's yours ;-)
Thank you Carsten. Your greenhouse is a beautiful display, already so many flowers, I presume that most of them are H. japonica. Tomorrow I am going to remove the snow of the greenhouse and also some frost protection. So the plants can warm up again and the pots can thawing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on February 14, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Carsten's pix of the hepaticas all in flower in his glasshouse  are  a delight! So pretty en masse!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 14, 2021, 07:28:19 PM
Herman: I've been using vermiculite and perlite for a long time now, in various mixes, and especially for seedlings long before I started to grow Hepatica from seeds.

What I found after using both in various ways, is that the vermiculite is great for seedlings mixes (short term potting), I also use it for keeping all the moist-packed seeds I offer. I has an excellent water holding capacity.
The downside is that when used in mixes for longer term potting (3 years or more), the particles which are very soft when imbibed, will start to break up and therefore do not perform as well in assuring a good drainage as good as the perlite does.

So, for this reason, I found it better to use the perlite for Hepatica potting/sowing mix.
For growing alpine species, a mix from vermiculite & perlite (and some soil) works perfect.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 14, 2021, 07:30:31 PM
What a delight Carsten to see the greenhouse in flower!

Keep the white flower/mauve anthers for me :) - just kidding, I know we cannot exchange plants. I hope others will take advantage!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 14, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Carsten, how big is your greenhouse? It must be wonderful to go there this time of year, and see all new flowers and new seedlings!
And when the flowers in the greenhouse are over, your season continues outside.
All are so nice and it is difficult to decide a favourite and the ones in the previous page are all fabulous, but right now I'm between the third and last H.japonica in the previous page. The third has such prefect flower shape, but the last one so interesting colour.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 14, 2021, 09:22:14 PM
Herman: I've been using vermiculite and perlite for a long time now, in various mixes, and especially for seedlings long before I started to grow Hepatica from seeds.

What I found after using both in various ways, is that the vermiculite is great for seedlings mixes (short term potting), I also use it for keeping all the moist-packed seeds I offer. I has an excellent water holding capacity.
The downside is that when used in mixes for longer term potting (3 years or more), the particles which are very soft when imbibed, will start to break up and therefore do not perform as well in assuring a good drainage as good as the perlite does.

So, for this reason, I found it better to use the perlite for Hepatica potting/sowing mix.
For growing alpine species, a mix from vermiculite & perlite (and some soil) works perfect.
Gabriela, I always use the combination perlite, seramis and some humus soil. Seramis also keeps water for a long time.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on February 15, 2021, 03:37:53 PM
What a lovely display, Carsten.  I couldn't even begin to pick a favourite, they are all so beautiful.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 15, 2021, 04:16:08 PM
Thanks to all for your kind feedback!

Leena, the greenhouse is only 21 square meters and much too small ;-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 16, 2021, 03:28:32 PM
Carsten, 21 square meters of Hepaticas  :), it must be wonderful! Space is always too small, and if there is enough space, then it is too big and there is too little time to keep up with it. At least it seems like that to me, but hopefully some day I will get all the garden in order.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 16, 2021, 04:14:02 PM
After snow melting, Hepatica henryi is appearing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 17, 2021, 01:48:35 PM
The first Hepatica nobilis in our garden with a lot of flowers open.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 17, 2021, 08:18:49 PM
The first Hepatica nobilis in our garden with a lot of flowers open.
Much earlier than here. very nice
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on February 18, 2021, 04:07:01 AM
I have been enjoying everyone's pictures! We had 30 cm of snow several days ago but now it has melted enough so we were able to remove most of the frost cloth covers on the Hepatica shelves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 18, 2021, 10:58:38 AM
Peppa, very nice japonica's. Here is all the snow gone!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on February 18, 2021, 02:10:09 PM
The first of ours to put on it's show.

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Hepatica japonica Blue Sandan.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 18, 2021, 02:24:21 PM
The first of ours to put on it's show. Hepatica japonica Blue Sandan.
Shelagh, very impressive! It is always more beautiful when the plant is a bit bigger
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 18, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
What a beauty, Shelagh!!
 :o :o

Shelagh, how big is the pot?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 19, 2021, 11:04:29 PM
Gunilla, Hepatica transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz' starts already to flower in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on February 20, 2021, 11:13:56 AM
That's early, Herman  :).  The snow has started to melt away here but everything is still frozen.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2021, 01:41:08 PM
The first of ours to put on it's show.
Hepatica japonica Blue Sandan.

What a superb old clump Shelagh! It seems you are not in the habit of dividing your Hepaticas.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
Gunilla, Hepatica transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz' starts already to flower in the garden.

What a beauty Herman. I have to say it is first time I see this cv. of H. transsilvanica; sterile by the look of it?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on February 20, 2021, 02:52:42 PM
First of all a reply to Patrick. Brian has measured the pot and its 22cm.

Secondly to Gabriela. We grow our Hepaticas for the show bench Gabriela so we don't split them. We take them to AGS and SRGC Shows in the spring. Unfortunately no shows this year and we only got to one last year. As we are getting older and more infirm we may not make any more Shows.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 20, 2021, 03:58:29 PM
Wow, that's big Shelagh!

Hepatica japonica 'Tousen' is flowering


Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 20, 2021, 04:41:05 PM
What a beauty Herman. I have to say it is first time I see this cv. of H. transsilvanica; sterile by the look of it?
Gabriela, it is indeed a beauty. I have this Hepatica for the first time in our garden. Gunilla can answer you if it is sterile.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: annew on February 20, 2021, 06:09:19 PM
The first of ours to put on it's show.

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Hepatica japonica Blue Sandan.
Shelagh, you put me to shame - my plants look so squinny in comparison! How long is it since that plant was divided (I think mine have nurseryman's blight)?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on February 20, 2021, 06:28:58 PM
Gabriella, H. transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz' is from Andreas Händel.  I have grown it for many years but never seen any seeds on my plants so probably it is sterile.  On a close up photo you can see some "normal" anthers and pistils but that of course, doesn't mean it can produce fertile pollen or seeds.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 20, 2021, 06:45:23 PM
Gunilla, very nice detail of 'Sternenglanz'. Andreas Händel told me, that it is sterile.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 20, 2021, 06:51:31 PM
Gunilla and Carsten, thank you for the information.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 20, 2021, 06:56:16 PM
In the greenhouse it's season peak.
These are all Hepatica nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 20, 2021, 07:01:21 PM
and some japonica seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 20, 2021, 07:03:48 PM
In the greenhouse it's season peak.
These are all Hepatica nobilis.
Carsten, then you probably have a lot of work making crosses!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2021, 08:32:15 PM
First of all a reply to Patrick. Brian has measured the pot and its 22cm.

Secondly to Gabriela. We grow our Hepaticas for the show bench Gabriela so we don't split them. We take them to AGS and SRGC Shows in the spring. Unfortunately no shows this year and we only got to one last year. As we are getting older and more infirm we may not make any more Shows.

Yes, I remember seeing some of your prized show plants Shelagh. I understand it must be very difficult now for all people used to display their plants at shows.
But show them here :) we are happy to see them many times.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2021, 08:34:18 PM
Gabriella, H. transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz' is from Andreas Händel.  I have grown it for many years but never seen any seeds on my plants so probably it is sterile.  On a close up photo you can see some "normal" anthers and pistils but that of course, doesn't mean it can produce fertile pollen or seeds.

Thank you Gunilla. It looks even more beautiful up close :)
I looked at the translation and in English its name would be 'Starshine'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 20, 2021, 08:50:30 PM
In the greenhouse it's season peak.
These are all Hepatica nobilis.

All very nice Carsten! Keep the pictures coming.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 20, 2021, 09:06:25 PM
Thank you Carsten for these treasuries!
The red japonica‘s are perfect, and the others too!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on February 21, 2021, 02:56:24 AM
Gunilla and Carsten, that's interesting! When I was looking at the images of H. transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz', I had been wondering if it could set seed or not...

In the greenhouse it's season peak.
Carsten, your greenhouse must smell wonderful right now! I really like your red and white Japanese Hepatica!

My early Hepatica acutiloba seedlings have just started to bloom. This seedling is from two white parents, but it has a nice soft pink color and the yellowish stamens are a good complement. Unfortunately it is very difficult to get pollen from them.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 21, 2021, 08:26:38 AM
My early Hepatica acutiloba seedlings have just started to bloom. This seedling is from two white parents, but it has a nice soft pink color and the yellowish stamens are a good complement. Unfortunately it is very difficult to get pollen from them.

This seedling is very special and should be a good plant to cross/recross :-) I love the upright growth of acutiloba, something nobilis and japonica plants often miss.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 21, 2021, 08:35:18 AM
Gunilla and Carsten, that's interesting! When I was looking at the images of H. transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz', I had been wondering if it could set seed or not...
Carsten, your greenhouse must smell wonderful right now! I really like your red and white Japanese Hepatica!

My early Hepatica acutiloba seedlings have just started to bloom. This seedling is from two white parents, but it has a nice soft pink color and the yellowish stamens are a good complement. Unfortunately it is very difficult to get pollen from them.
Peppa, it is a very beautiful acutiloba!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on February 21, 2021, 10:37:53 AM
Anne I don't think that one has ever been split. Brian took a couple of small pieces off H.j. Gyousei the other year but other than that we don't split them. Trouble is now we have difficulty lifting them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 21, 2021, 06:52:09 PM
Some seedlings of Hepatica pubescens 'Hohobeni' and one is already starting in the garden.
I have all these plants for swap if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 21, 2021, 07:00:13 PM
Some seedlings of Hepatica pubescens 'Hohobeni' and one is already starting in the garden.
I have all these plants for swap if anyone is interested.
Carsten, beautiful Hepatica’s! There is a great variation in those seedlings!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 21, 2021, 07:11:43 PM
Carsten, beautiful Hepatica’s! There is a great variation in those seedlings!

I was thinking the same Herman.  Reason to grow them from seeds!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 21, 2021, 07:16:18 PM

My early Hepatica acutiloba seedlings have just started to bloom. This seedling is from two white parents, but it has a nice soft pink color and the yellowish stamens are a good complement. Unfortunately it is very difficult to get pollen from them.


Very nice semidouble form Peppa! Which is quite rare for H. acutiloba.
It seems that the anthers are not functional (I don't know what other term to use). I have found in the wild a form having the same anthers type - the flowers are regular though, same soft pink color.

Interesting that while for H. americana maiden forms appear here and there, I've never seen a true maiden H. acutiloba (in this part of Ontario).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 21, 2021, 07:56:34 PM
Peppa, I like your Hepatica acutiloba. The colour is very beautiful.
Hepatica nobilis Alba Plena 'Ireland' with full open flower!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on February 21, 2021, 08:42:14 PM
Very nice hepaticas shown here.
Clearly it is worth growing from seeds based on the seedings shown here.
The naming seems to change fairly often in this family.
Is there an website or similar place that describes the different species including the number of chromosomes?
I have myself mixed success with seeds as the ones I plant might not survive nature seems to be successful when it tries itself
But I persist in trying to plant the seeds I get in hope of some success.
I am just a bit afraid that the seeds I get from my plants become garden mixes of the different species I grow if they easily get crosses. Not that I mind as if they are pretty and hardy I am happy.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on February 22, 2021, 04:18:50 AM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments! I love every species of Hepatica and fortunately they are all hardy here in my area, but H. acutiloba has many charming characteristics that other species don't have. It is interesting that in its natural habitat, white is a much more common color in H. acutiloba, and darker colors are rare, but with H. nobilis, for example, the reverse is true. It would be interesting to know why this is the case.

Joakim, I think I saw somewhere in a past thread a talk about Hepatica species' chromosome numbers but I wasn't able to find it just now. However you can take a look at this page which has some information. https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2007.02019.x
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: YT on February 22, 2021, 12:26:01 PM
You can find some pictures of a local hepatica show 2021 in Niigata, Japan ;)

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/chuetsuplants/posts/1395128364174771 (https://www.facebook.com/chuetsuplants/posts/1395128364174771)
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Twitter
https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants/status/1362738265506332676 (https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants/status/1362738265506332676)
https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants/status/1363093696351268869 (https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants/status/1363093696351268869)
https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants/status/1362738290294677505 (https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants/status/1362738290294677505)
https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants (https://twitter.com/chuetsuplants)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on February 22, 2021, 01:11:35 PM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments! I love every species of Hepatica and fortunately they are all hardy here in my area, but H. acutiloba has many charming characteristics that other species don't have. It is interesting that in its natural habitat, white is a much more common color in H. acutiloba, and darker colors are rare, but with H. nobilis, for example, the reverse is true. It would be interesting to know why this is the case.

Joakim, I think I saw somewhere in a past thread a talk about Hepatica species' chromosome numbers but I wasn't able to find it just now. However you can take a look at this page which has some information. https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2007.02019.x

Here are  some  posts about the  chromosome numbers of Hepatica ....

https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6473.msg187700#msg187700
https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4882.msg141111#msg141111
https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9945.msg272371#msg272371

and this - the more  extensive  conversation :
https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4378.msg122254#msg122254

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 22, 2021, 02:10:35 PM
Some seedlings of Hepatica pubescens 'Hohobeni' and one is already starting in the garden.

You have so long Hepatica season with plants both in the greenhouse and out in the garden!
You showed already earlier one white seedling of 'Hohobeni', and in the last page another. How usual is it to get white flowering plants from it?
Of course you have so many Hepaticas that if they are open pollinanted then there is much choice for a father plant:).

Peppa, also I love your H.acutiloba!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 22, 2021, 10:33:00 PM
Thank you, Tatsuo! Very interesting pics on twitter!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 22, 2021, 10:39:44 PM
You have so long Hepatica season with plants both in the greenhouse and out in the garden!
You showed already earlier one white seedling of 'Hohobeni', and in the last page another. How usual is it to get white flowering plants from it?
Of course you have so many Hepaticas that if they are open pollinanted then there is much choice for a father plant:).

Peppa, also I love your H.acutiloba!

Leena, Hep. pubescens 'Hohobeni' does deliver a wide range of seedlings. I had some 50 seedlings and about 5 or 6 whites with red stamens. There was only one of them showing signs of hybrid with a light blue colour.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 23, 2021, 10:44:20 AM
Leena, Hep. pubescens 'Hohobeni' does deliver a wide range of seedlings. I had some 50 seedlings and about 5 or 6 whites with red stamens. There was only one of them showing signs of hybrid with a light blue colour.

Thanks Carsten, I hope to see in a few years time what colours there will be in the seedlings germinated from your 'Hohobeni' seeds:). It will be nice to wait for them to grow and flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 23, 2021, 04:35:42 PM
Leena, Hep. pubescens 'Hohobeni' does deliver a wide range of seedlings. I had some 50 seedlings and about 5 or 6 whites with red stamens. There was only one of them showing signs of hybrid with a light blue colour.
Carsten is your Hepatica pubescens  can be grown outside in Zone3
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 23, 2021, 05:47:08 PM
Kris, I would give it a try as Hepatica pubescens grows in the mountains in Japan. As you have lots of snow cover and transsylvanica is growing well for you I guess it may work.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 23, 2021, 05:56:09 PM
Some Hepatica nobilis seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 23, 2021, 06:02:50 PM
Hepatica japonica. First and second are own seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 23, 2021, 06:12:52 PM
Last year I planted some seedlings of Hepatica japonica in my pots of Camellias. They seem to grow well and withstand the root pressure so far.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on February 23, 2021, 06:58:48 PM
Peppa Thanks for the really nice article about the chromosome numbers in Hepatica

Maggi thanks for the trip down memory lane, took a wile to get back to present days. Many people that seems less active here that used to be active.

YT thanks for the Facebook links. Nice to see that the hepatica shows seems open.

Carsten some really nice seedlings and my favourite was the first one. Also nice to plant hepaticas with camélias. My closest combo has been to have cyclamen graecum in a lemon tree. I had it in a pot on top so not as nice as your combo.
I lifted the protective branches and there seem to be life in the hepaticas so with some sun a lot may happen in the garden now.

Hope to see more plants here while the garden gets ready
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2021, 07:05:03 PM
Some Hepatica nobilis seedlings.
Carsten, great show! They seems also to have already many new leaves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2021, 07:07:15 PM
Last year I planted some seedlings of Hepatica japonica in my pots of Camellias. They seem to grow well and withstand the root pressure so far.
Carsten, you are using all possible places for your Hepatica's!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2021, 07:11:18 PM
Here some more Hepatica transsilvanica are awaken:

Hepatica transsylvanica 'Winterfreude'

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Schwanensee'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 23, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Carsten, great show! They seems also to have already many new leaves.
All leaves are from last season. When most of them start their new growth in a few weeks, I need to shadow the greenhouse.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2021, 10:14:03 PM
All leaves are from last season. When most of them start their new growth in a few weeks, I need to shadow the greenhouse.
So Carsten you don't cut any old leaves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 23, 2021, 10:30:31 PM
Nice to see more Hepatica flowers, either simple or doubles!
Hopefully your H. yamatutai won't be affected by the cold Herman.

We are in a polar vortex currently, it seems I may have chosen a bad year to try young H. japonica in the ground. There is snow but surely not enough for constant night temp. under -15C over a long period (down to -21C forecasted).
Luckily I managed to bring in the garage some of the potted Hepaticas and they seem OK after defrosting.
Gabriela, Hepatica yamatutai has survived the cold, now there are some new flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 23, 2021, 10:31:28 PM
Herman, I remove any shrivelled leaves during the year and some before blooming starts. Then finally shortly before the new leaves start to grow I remove the rest of them. I don't cut them but pull them out gently. This works with almost all plants, just a few have too sensitive buts and they may brake out as well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 23, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
Kris, I would give it a try as Hepatica pubescens grows in the mountains in Japan. As you have lots of snow cover and transsylvanica is growing well for you I guess it may work.
Thanks Carsten. Yes Hepatica transsilvanica is very hardy. I never lost any. But few times I have lost some seedlings from nobilis cross. In one hard winter I lost a  nice double pink Hepatica seedling that I grew from the F2 generation seeds I bought.
This year I am going to cross my own hepaticas.
Is it possible to cross the H.transsilvanica Ellison spence ? I know it does not have pollen. Do they have pistil?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 24, 2021, 07:12:33 AM
Carsten, I like the dark blue on the last photo!
Is it a nobilis clone?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 24, 2021, 07:20:21 AM
Herman, Hep transsilvanica 'Schwanensee' is very beautiful!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 24, 2021, 08:01:50 AM
Carsten, what a Hepatica-show you have! I keep looking at that last picture with all shapes and colours of flowers and so much of them.

Herman, I'm glad your Hepaticas outside didn't suffer from your cold snap, H.transsilvanicas and H.yamatutai are so nice.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 24, 2021, 09:27:54 AM
Carsten, what a Hepatica-show you have! I keep looking at that last picture with all shapes and colours of flowers and so much of them.

Herman, I'm glad your Hepaticas outside didn't suffer from your cold snap, H.transsilvanicas and H.yamatutai are so nice.
Leena, they are indeed nice. But transsilvanica grows much better in the garden than yamatutai.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 24, 2021, 01:44:14 PM
But transsilvanica grows much better in the garden than yamatutai.

That is good to know, thank you:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 24, 2021, 04:33:27 PM
Carsten, I like the dark blue on the last photo!
Is it a nobilis clone?
Patrick, it is Hepatica japonica 'Kagura'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 24, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
Today I had to split a crowded tray. 24 plants of a pyrenaica alba x 'Bolette' F2. One of the seedlings is a candidate for naming, for now it is just 1634-6.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 24, 2021, 05:12:14 PM
Today I had to split a crowded tray. 24 plants of a pyrenaica alba x 'Bolette' F2. One of the seedlings is a candidate for naming, for now it is just 1634-6.
Carsten, what a big difference as well for the flowers as for the leaves! Did you expect that when you made the crossing?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 24, 2021, 05:35:59 PM
Carsten, what a big difference as well for the flowers as for the leaves! Did you expect that when you made the crossing?
I think it is quite normal for the 2. generation of crossings, that they split or rearrange and are not uniform as for example the first seedlings generation. But certainly this is not true with all crossings.
By the way, the seeds are from Gunhild Poulsen.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 24, 2021, 05:52:22 PM
Today I had to split a crowded tray. 24 plants of a pyrenaica alba x 'Bolette' F2. One of the seedlings is a candidate for naming, for now it is just 1634-6.

How beautiful it looks Carsten! I like the look of various colors combined together, they complement and enhance one another :)
I don't know how Bolette looks but the seedling is special.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 24, 2021, 05:57:03 PM
Gabriela, Hepatica yamatutai has survived the cold, now there are some new flowers.

I'm glad it wasn't damaged Herman. The snow is always a good protector.

All your transsilvanica are very nice :)
I've grown from seeds Winterfreude, Schwanensee and Eisvogel; I want to have H. transsilvanica in all colors in my garden.
They are 3-4 years old, maybe I'll see a flower this year, who knows... For me H. transsilvanica is slower to flower from seeds than all the others.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 24, 2021, 06:40:28 PM
I don't know how Bolette looks but the seedling is special.

Gabriela, here  (http://www.hepatica.eu/Hepatica%20nobilis.htm)in Hepatica.eu- pages is 'Bolette' about in the middle, strong pink double/semidouble (I don't know how that form is called).

Carsten, they are really nice. What would you get if you crossed them with each other?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 24, 2021, 07:03:49 PM
Nice, this pot with different colours of flowers, Carsten. Are all from the same parents?

Here also the flowering season is going on:

Hepatica japonica 'Utyuu' and 'Cherry'

Hepatica japonica 'Blue Sandan'

Hepatica japonica 'Kouten'

Hepatica japonica 'Aozora' .
For me these flower has the darkest blue/purple from all of my plants. In combination with the white antheres it looks impressive.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 24, 2021, 09:46:43 PM
I think it is quite normal for the 2. generation of crossings, that they split or rearrange and are not uniform as for example the first seedlings generation. But certainly this is not true with all crossings.
By the way, the seeds are from Gunhild Poulsen.
Carsten, making crosses seems to be difficult matter. Looking on the web I found this link: http://theseedsite.co.uk/hybrids.html
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 25, 2021, 08:46:33 AM
Nice overview, Herman! And often, you do not know about a plants genotype, so knowing all this basics will still provide you with many surprises. And: There are still some uncertainnties like bees or being a bit too late with pollinating and the job has already been done ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 25, 2021, 06:23:23 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. obtusa 'Rosea' or Hepatica americana 'Rosea'

Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra'

Hepatica nobilis pyrenaica 'Alba'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on February 25, 2021, 06:26:21 PM
Nice plants!
Carsten was one of the crosses a pink semi or full double?
If so a mix with a semi double might give you some fun in the others too
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 25, 2021, 09:22:31 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. obtusa 'Rosea' or Hepatica americana 'Rosea'

Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra'

Hepatica nobilis pyrenaica 'Alba'
Nice hepaticas Herman. Your Hepatica season has started way earlier than ours. I have to wait two more months to see them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 25, 2021, 11:56:08 PM
Gabriela, here  (http://www.hepatica.eu/Hepatica%20nobilis.htm)in Hepatica.eu- pages is 'Bolette' about in the middle, strong pink double/semidouble (I don't know how that form is called).


Thank you for reminding me about this website Leena :) It is always a pleasure to look at various pictures and read the articles.

Herman: there is also an article about crossing Hepaticas, if you are interested.
It is a fun activity. Easy to do it with Hepatica grown in pots though. Last spring with the woods trails being closed in April, I 'played' in the garden with few plants.
But I went the easy way and I choose as 'mother plants' two maiden forms. Then I took few flowers from the 'father' plants and dabbed their anthers on the maidens.
I don't know if I've been successful but obtained few seeds.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 25, 2021, 11:57:59 PM
Here also the flowering season is going on:

Hepatica japonica 'Aozora' .
For me these flower has the darkest blue/purple from all of my plants. In combination with the white antheres it looks impressive.

All beautiful Mellifera, especially the 'Aozora' :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 26, 2021, 07:21:08 AM
Herman: there is also an article about crossing Hepaticas, if you are interested.
It is a fun activity. Easy to do it with Hepatica grown in pots though. Last spring with the woods trails being closed in April, I 'played' in the garden with few plants.
But I went the easy way and I choose as 'mother plants' two maiden forms. Then I took few flowers from the 'father' plants and dabbed their anthers on the maidens.
I don't know if I've been successful but obtained few seeds.
Thank you Gabriela, I am going to try to make some crossings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on February 26, 2021, 08:25:24 PM
Thank you Gabriela.
Maybe the darkest blue filled nobilis which was ever found.
The empress
Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
The plant was found in Austria.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 26, 2021, 08:47:06 PM
Thank you Gabriela.
Maybe the darkest blue filled nobilis which was ever found.
The empress
Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
The plant was found in Austria.
Beautiful Hepatica, Patrick. I had also ‘Maria Theresia’, but on the place were she stood  is nothing  to see. Probably  eaten by snails.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 27, 2021, 08:28:29 AM
Maybe the darkest blue filled nobilis which was ever found.
The empress
Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
The plant was found in Austria.

That is really beautiful Hepatica, petals are so well ordered.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 27, 2021, 02:07:50 PM
Thank you Gabriela.
Maybe the darkest blue filled nobilis which was ever found.
The empress Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
The plant was found in Austria.

An exquisite Hepatica Mellifera.
Over in Europe, with so many Hepatica beautiful forms available, you must have a real problem when it comes with purchasing. I wouldn't know what to buy (first) :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 27, 2021, 03:25:27 PM
Thank you Gabriela.
Maybe the darkest blue filled nobilis which was ever found.
The empress
Hepatica nobilis 'Maria Theresia'
The plant was found in Austria.

Very attractive.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 04:23:55 PM
Today I had to split a crowded tray. 24 plants of a pyrenaica alba x 'Bolette' F2. One of the seedlings is a candidate for naming, for now it is just 1634-6.
Yesterday the flowers of this seedling were fully blossomed.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 04:34:38 PM
Hepatica x schlyteri inside and in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 27, 2021, 06:00:44 PM
Yesterday the flowers of this seedling were fully blossomed.
Carsten, this one is a real gem and certainly deserves a name.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 27, 2021, 06:01:35 PM
Hepatica x schlyteri inside and in the garden.
Carsten, your Hepatica x schlyteri are beautiful plants. The flowers are also bigger.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra Plena' and 'Topaz Star'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 08:59:42 PM
Carsten, your Hepatica x schlyteri are beautiful plants. The flowers are also bigger.
Herman, I hope they are growing well for you. I planted several of them in the garden in Oktober and even in November last year and they all start to bloom these days - and we had severe frost this winter!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on February 27, 2021, 09:08:12 PM
Nice that you got this special double Carsten. Interesting form and colour.
Lucky genetic and good growing!
Hope G poulsen has seen how lovely offspring she crossed.
Hope there might be even more surprises to come!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 09:15:38 PM
Nice that you got this special double Carsten. Interesting form and colour.
Lucky genetic and good growing!
Hope G poulsen has seen how lovely offspring she crossed.
Hope there might be even more surprises to come!
Yes, she knows about this plant ;-)
Fingers crossed that there is more to see in Hepatica nobilis forms in coming years ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 27, 2021, 09:50:17 PM
Yesterday the flowers of this seedling were fully blossomed.

You only need to find a good name for it now!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 27, 2021, 09:57:47 PM
Hepatica x schlyteri inside and in the garden.

Nice. Would this cross always deliver plants with large flowers Carsten?

The nobilis doubles are also very nice. Rubra Plena is about the only cv. available to buy here but not the blue, or any other cultivars.
I have few seedlings raised from a Plena nobilis form and they look like having a flowering bud. I try to contain my enthusiasm though, I know they may not flower with multi flowers.
Do some of H. nobilis cultivars with filled flowers form seeds more than others?

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 10:24:47 PM
Nice. Would this cross always deliver plants with large flowers Carsten?

The nobilis doubles are also very nice. Rubra Plena is about the only cv. available to buy here but not the blue, or any other cultivars.
I have few seedlings raised from a Plena nobilis form and they look like having a flowering bud. I try to contain my enthusiasm though, I know they may not flower with multi flowers.
Do some of H. nobilis cultivars with filled flowers form seeds more than others?

The flowers are not that large, but in my view better than those of maxima, as they stand above the very large leaves. I only made two crosses that are flowering size so far.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on February 27, 2021, 10:35:17 PM

I have few seedlings raised from a Plena nobilis form and they look like having a flowering bud. I try to contain my enthusiasm though, I know they may not flower with multi flowers.
Do some of H. nobilis cultivars with filled flowers form seeds more than others?
Mostly cultivars with filled flowers are not that easy to get pollen from and you will rarely get results with the first generation. Sometimes you may be lucky to get single flowers at a fully double form - after replanting or other circumstances. Than you may pollinate them easily.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 28, 2021, 09:54:57 AM
Herman, I hope they are growing well for you. I planted several of them in the garden in Oktober and even in November last year and they all start to bloom these days - and we had severe frost this winter!
Carsten, good to hear that they survived the late frost. So they are probably hardy enough for the garden.
Are they all sterile or can you cross pollinate them with other Hepatica's.
In the past H. maxima is not growing well in our garden. There were 3, coming from Edrom in 2019 and they are not visible yet. Reason: wrong place, snails..., I don't know. Previous year I had some new one Hepatica maxima BSWJ 4344 (also from Edrom), this clone seems to grow better in our garden. I had some seeds from this one, till now no germination, but they still can come.
 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on February 28, 2021, 07:28:28 PM
Thank you Carsten.
The seeds of double form were gifted to me so I don't know even what generation were the mother plants. I'll just have to wait a bit more to see what's going to be.

The Hepaticas I brought inside to flower under lights are starting to flower :) it is not as nice as having them under sun, also the pictures cannot be as nice, but
our winter considered, I allow this indulgence.
A salmon color H. japonica
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The patterned leaves forms are usually among the first to flower (they were very slow to grow and increase from seeds)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on February 28, 2021, 07:52:03 PM
A salmon color H. japonica

How nice color! Special in my eyes. It is so nice to have flowers already now inside, it makes the season longer.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on February 28, 2021, 11:21:16 PM
The salmon colour Hepatica is very nice!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 01, 2021, 08:13:32 AM
Gabriela, the first one looks very cute!
Look in the internet, maybe Hepatica japonica 'Momosango' is very similar to yours..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 01, 2021, 05:58:34 PM
Carsten, is 'Topaz Star' a breded plant?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 01, 2021, 06:50:19 PM
Thanks Leena and Kris, right now I welcome them in any color!

Also thanks Mellifera - when it fades a bit and gets lighter might look like Momosango, but the batch of seeds from which it was grown was unnamed. Beside the salmon color I obtained two pink forms (a light pink and a really deep pink form).

With the huge variation in colors H. japonica provides (and not only colors) I noticed there is a bit of over-enthusiasm in naming all seedlings (in my opinion). I don't even know if there are records for all named plants during the years, probably it would have been impossible.

For today, the only fragrant H. japonica seedling I have (ex. Murasaki).
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: johnw on March 01, 2021, 07:32:27 PM
Gabriela  - Congratulations, the Hepaticas you posted are quite something.  I'm salvating over that salmon beauty.

johnw
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 01, 2021, 11:53:48 PM
Gabriela  - Congratulations, the Hepaticas you posted are quite something.  I'm salvating over that salmon beauty.
johnw

Thanks John, it is a good example of the beautiful things you get when grow from seeds :)
I only have the one salmon coloured, I'll keep an eye for seeds (I use a brush to pollinate), although it may not come true. But you could 'salivate' over an ex. Murasaki or a red form (will flower soon).
The plan is to keep one potted plant for each nice H. japonica seedling and the others will be shared. Plus I already planted some in the ground last year. If they survive good, if not, I will not persevere. There are many other more hardy Hepatica to grow and enjoy.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 02, 2021, 07:23:35 AM
Thanks John, it is a good example of the beautiful things you get when grow from seeds :)
I only have the one salmon coloured, I'll keep an eye for seeds (I use a brush to pollinate), although it may not come true. But you could 'salivate' over an ex. Murasaki or a red form (will flower soon).
The plan is to keep one potted plant for each nice H. japonica seedling and the others will be shared. Plus I already planted some in the ground last year. If they survive good, if not, I will not persevere. There are many other more hardy Hepatica to grow and enjoy.
Gabriela, salmonlike colour shades are so special. I like them very much. Absolutlely right! Growing from seed with Hepaticas is so much fun and easy when you are a bit patient. Keep crossing ;-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 02, 2021, 07:24:50 AM
Carsten, is 'Topaz Star' a breded plant?
Patrick, it is a findling and a good example, that not all blue doubles are the same.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2021, 09:04:03 AM
A salmon color H. japonica

The patterned leaves forms are usually among the first to flower (they were very slow to grow and increase from seeds)

Gabriela, very special colours, it is a pity that it is not Hepatica nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 02, 2021, 03:39:24 PM
Gabriela, very special colours, it is a pity that it is not Hepatica nobilis.
I second it
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2021, 04:57:28 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' and Galanthus nivalis in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2021, 05:06:18 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' and Galanthus nivalis

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 02, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Herman, how lovely view in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
Herman, how lovely view in the garden.
Thank you Leena, today it was good weather for the Hepatica’s.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. obtusa 'Rosea'

Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra plena'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 02, 2021, 07:51:29 PM
Hepatica maxima 'Red Max' is a sterile plant, I got it under this name. I think it should be Hepatica x schlyteri 'Red Max'. The only information that I found about 'Red Max' is Hepatica x schlyteri 'Red Max', coming from H. maxima x H. nobilis 'Rubra', this cross is made by Robin White in 2005.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 02, 2021, 08:24:39 PM
Thank you Carsten. Do you know where 'Topaz Star' was found?
Hermann, I like 'Red Max'. Can you maybe make another photo, where we can see the truth red..?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 02, 2021, 08:30:37 PM
Here are a few handselected namless clones from a specimen of Japanese. Unfortunately he had to sell all his plants.
I think his best 18 clones comes to collectors in europe.

Here are a few of them, which are in my collection.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 02, 2021, 08:33:22 PM
nameless Hepatica japonica
and Hepatica japonica 'Miwaku'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 02, 2021, 09:44:34 PM
Gabriela, salmonlike colour shades are so special. I like them very much. Absolutlely right! Growing from seed with Hepaticas is so much fun and easy when you are a bit patient. Keep crossing ;-)

I didn't know people are so taken over the salmon colored Hepatica Carsten. I will name it 'Chinook' :), just for myself.
All the H. japonica I show were grown from seeds gifted to me and I can tell that they were from garden cultivated mother plants (in Europe), therefore open pollinated. This shows again what a 'lottery' it is most often regarding the offspring.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 02, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' and Galanthus nivalis


They look perfect together Herman :)

Yes, if Red Max is a cross between the 2 species shouldn't be named H. maxima 'Red Max'; it doesn't look quite red, but depends on the camera, sometime the red is hard to capture.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 02, 2021, 09:53:29 PM
Here are a few handselected namless clones from a specimen of Japanese. Unfortunately he had to sell all his plants.
I think his best 18 clones comes to collectors in europe.

Here are a few of them, which are in my collection.

They are all beautiful Mellifera. It probably happens with other plant collections when the owners cannot care for them anymore. It is too bad, maybe some of the clones are also lost.
I wonder if they have in Japon a National Hepatica Collection or something similar.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 03, 2021, 12:48:33 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Rubra' and Galanthus nivalis in the garden.
Very nice Herman.

I have attached a picture from my garden taken last May. Right now all my hepaticas are under 2 feet of snow. Unlike yours when the plants emerge in May most leaves are destroyed by the very cold weather.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 03, 2021, 12:52:08 AM
Here are a few handselected namless clones from a specimen of Japanese. Unfortunately he had to sell all his plants.
I think his best 18 clones comes to collectors in europe.

Here are a few of them, which are in my collection.
Very attractive flowers Mellifera specially the dark purple double H. japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2021, 08:15:18 AM
Very nice Herman.

I have attached a picture from my garden taken last May. Right now all my hepaticas are under 2 feet of snow. Unlike yours when the plants emerge in May most leaves are destroyed by the very cold weather.
That´s worth waiting for May ;-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 03, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Very nice Herman.

I have attached a picture from my garden taken last May. Right now all my hepaticas are under 2 feet of snow. Unlike yours when the plants emerge in May most leaves are destroyed by the very cold weather.
Kris, that picture gives good prospects for May!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 03, 2021, 11:53:29 AM
Thank you Carsten. Do you know where 'Topaz Star' was found?
Hermann, I like 'Red Max'. Can you maybe make another photo, where we can see the truth red..?
Southern Bavaria, close to the Alps.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 03, 2021, 05:52:07 PM
I have attached a picture from my garden taken last May. Right now all my hepaticas are under 2 feet of snow. Unlike yours when the plants emerge in May most leaves are destroyed by the very cold weather.

That's really something to look fwd to Kris! Here it starts a bit earlier, April usually depending on the weather. In years with bad winters also the foliage can be quite not nice looking by then.
You seem to have a lot of space in shade which is nice; I could never have so many plants of the same clone, shade is at a premium.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 03, 2021, 06:57:02 PM
Thank you Carsten. Do you know where 'Topaz Star' was found?
Hermann, I like 'Red Max'. Can you maybe make another photo, where we can see the truth red..?
Patrick, here another picture of 'Red Max', the flower is still growing. It is very difficult to get the true colour.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 03, 2021, 07:33:11 PM
Thank you Carsten.
Good colour Herman! And also a good grower!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 03, 2021, 07:35:39 PM
Hepatia japonica 'Haato no Kingu'
and with 'Aozora'
Hepatica nobilis filled with antheres!
Hepatica nobilis dark blue with blue antheres
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 03, 2021, 08:09:28 PM
Very nice hepática with anthers melifera
We tend to discuss different shades of blue / red and it is difficult to get a feeling for the “true” colour.
I remember an old discussion about references. Would it be easier to understand a colour if references like the blue cola can or the red cola can or the blue bag of potato chips? Not pretty but some colours are actually global and can be used as a reference to understand where the colours are in reality.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 04, 2021, 04:29:03 PM
That's really something to look fwd to Kris! Here it starts a bit earlier, April usually depending on the weather. In years with bad winters also the foliage can be quite not nice looking by then.
You seem to have a lot of space in shade which is nice; I could never have so many plants of the same clone, shade is at a premium.
Hi Gabriela like many gardeners I also like to grow many plants in limited space. The area where the Hepatica grows have 3 large hostas. Once the Hosta starts growing the hepaticas will be finished flowering . They grow under the hosta. That way I can grow more plants. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 04, 2021, 08:03:09 PM
The first one is particularly handsome Mellifera.

Hi Gabriela like many gardeners I also like to grow many plants in limited space. The area where the Hepatica grows have 3 large hostas. Once the Hosta starts growing the hepaticas will be finished flowering . They grow under the hosta. That way I can grow more plants. 

I imagined there are other dormant plants in the area Kris. I was referring to the fact that you have the same Hepatica in great numbers. It must be a clone which grows well for you.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 04, 2021, 08:11:40 PM
Very nice hepática with anthers melifera
We tend to discuss different shades of blue / red and it is difficult to get a feeling for the “true” colour.
I remember an old discussion about references. Would it be easier to understand a colour if references like the blue cola can or the red cola can or the blue bag of potato chips? Not pretty but some colours are actually global and can be used as a reference to understand where the colours are in reality.

If you really need to be that precise about flower colors Joakim, then use a color system with the associated codes - most used for digital images is RGB.
Anything else cannot be used as a 'reference' (not everyone has the same blue bag of chips, or having cola cans handy to watch them and so on....).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 04, 2021, 08:35:28 PM
Gabriela the colour codes are for sure the best way, but most people do not have them. My point was to use the global brands that are very demanding on the tone of the colour. So it is needed to be a global one and not just anyone. I just did not wanted to give any free publicity to them. Blue can and the blue bag is from the same company and the red is the opposite company.
I might test the blue ones when my hepaticas flowers. Still it is always difficult with colours as the light and the camera as well as the display influence the appearance of colour.

I finally saw some blue from the hepaticas and the sun is out just that the temperature dropped a bit so hope for higher temperature so we get the flowers up and flowering.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 04, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
The first one is particularly handsome Mellifera.

I imagined there are other dormant plants in the area Kris. I was referring to the fact that you have the same Hepatica in great numbers. It must be a clone which grows well for you.
You are right. They are self seeded ones and this one flowers profusely.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 06, 2021, 10:28:33 AM
Very nice Hepaticas everyone. Here all are still under snow, but not long to wait now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 06, 2021, 07:43:34 PM
More to flower, no surprises with the first 2, which I named last year.
H. japonica 'Cerise'
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H. japonica 'Cherry Blossoms'
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Seedling from a 'red form', not really red but with a velvety appearance.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 07, 2021, 06:51:15 AM
Red is lovely, it really looks velvety, and I like the dark anthers in the other ones.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 07, 2021, 08:54:50 AM
Very attractive flowers Mellifera specially the dark purple double H. japonica
Yes, I also like it very much. For me the high quality is also the big flower and also big plant. Mostly the flowers are great in colour but tiny and also the habitus.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 07, 2021, 09:04:02 AM
They are all beautiful Mellifera. It probably happens with other plant collections when the owners cannot care for them anymore. It is too bad, maybe some of the clones are also lost.
I wonder if they have in Japon a National Hepatica Collection or something similar.
I don´t think so Gabriela.
In this case the man emigrates to Brasil. I think there are minimum many decades in breeding work getting such plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 07, 2021, 09:22:53 AM
More to flower, no surprises with the first 2, which I named last year.
H. japonica 'Cerise'
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H. japonica 'Cherry Blossoms'
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Seedling from a 'red form', not really red but with a velvety appearance.
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Nice to see some Hepatica in flower. Gabriela, japonica’ s have beautiful colours. Here we have again nights with frost (-5°C). So the flowers  are slowed  down.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 07, 2021, 11:41:16 AM
My first semidouble seedling from own seed flowers this week.
A nobilis found semiplena
Nobilis semiplena from Kristensen's
Hepatica nobilis 'Bergfexing'
From Gunhild Poulsen's seed: 106N x 'Andersen's Dream', F2 seedling, very much like 'Andersen's Dream' but rose.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 07, 2021, 01:44:13 PM
They all are very beautiful, Carsten!!
Can you make a photo from the last one, when the flower is more open?
For me the best one is the first I think..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 07, 2021, 01:45:37 PM
Nice to see some Hepatica in flower. Gabriela, japonica’ s have beautiful colours. Here we have again nights with frost (-5°C). So the flowers  are slowed  down.

Indeed Herman, the vivid colors make them very attractive, albeit, like Mellifera said, in some cases are very small.
The outside plants will not flower until mid April or so. The soil is frozen solid this year, so who know maybe even later.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 07, 2021, 01:49:03 PM
My first semidouble seedling from own seed flowers this week.
A nobilis found semiplena
Nobilis semiplena from Kristensen's
Hepatica nobilis 'Bergfexing'
From Gunhild Poulsen's seed: 106N x 'Andersen's Dream', F2 seedling, very much like 'Andersen's Dream' but rose.

Congratulations! your seedling is very special. I am very partial to the semi-double Hepatica flowers.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 07, 2021, 04:13:26 PM
My first semidouble seedling from own seed flowers this week.

All are very beautiful, but a seedling you have grown yourself is always the most special especially when the result is so beautiful colour and form:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 07, 2021, 04:15:17 PM
My first semidouble seedling from own seed flowers this week.
A nobilis found semiplena
Nobilis semiplena from Kristensen's
Hepatica nobilis 'Bergfexing'
From Gunhild Poulsen's seed: 106N x 'Andersen's Dream', F2 seedling, very much like 'Andersen's Dream' but rose.
Carsten, very interesting Hepatica nobilis!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 07, 2021, 07:01:24 PM
Now my Hepatica nobilis semidouble is full open
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 07, 2021, 07:17:52 PM
Now my Hepatica nobilis semidouble is full open
Patrick, now you can make a cross with another Hepatica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 07, 2021, 09:10:41 PM
Herman, yes I do it
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 07, 2021, 10:27:44 PM
Mellifera
Is your lovely one more in lilac then blue? It looks like that and that gives a nice different colour.

The first finding is very nice Carsten. Does it have working parts?

Interesting to see the children of both that one and Melliferas!

Still cold here so hepaticas are just waiting half ready
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 08, 2021, 01:22:32 AM
My first semidouble seedling from own seed flowers this week.
A nobilis found semiplena
Nobilis semiplena from Kristensen's
Hepatica nobilis 'Bergfexing'
From Gunhild Poulsen's seed: 106N x 'Andersen's Dream', F2 seedling, very much like 'Andersen's Dream' but rose.
Very nice flowers . Gives me inspiration to try crossing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 08, 2021, 08:48:26 AM

The first finding is very nice Carsten. Does it have working parts?

Joakim, you need to cut the anthers to get some pollen from it. Not yet sure if the pollen is fertile, as I only grow the first seedling generation and the interesting part is probably the F2 seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Mike Ireland on March 08, 2021, 11:41:26 AM
Two hepatica from Yuzawa Engei last year which have grown well in the garden, both H. nobilis japonica seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 08, 2021, 01:04:48 PM
Two hepatica from Yuzawa Engei last year which have grown well in the garden, both H. nobilis japonica seedlings.
Mike, good to see that japonica is doing  well in your garden!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on March 09, 2021, 02:42:58 PM
A little bit of sun has brought out some more of our big pots.

Hepatica nobilis is a wonderful shade of blue. those we have in the garden struggle to put up one flower.

Hep. japonica HoHo Beni is just opening.

Hep. j. Toki has small double flowers and looks very sweet.

Hep. j. Ryougetsu has striped white/pink flowers.

Hepatica nobilis pygmy strain is quite a lot smaller than the others.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on March 09, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
And finally Hep. japonica Blue Sandan. Yes I know I've posted it before but that was on the 17th February. Cool weather and a spot in the frame means it was still looking good yesterday.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carolyn on March 09, 2021, 03:33:49 PM
All really lovely, Shelagh. I think my favourite is the simple blue nobilis, it’s such a pleasing blue with the contrasting stamens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 09, 2021, 04:21:36 PM
Shelagh, beautiful Hepatica's! They seem to grow and flower very well in your pots.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 09, 2021, 04:44:01 PM
Very nice Hepaticas Shelagh.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: annew on March 09, 2021, 04:49:01 PM
Some of our inter-specific hybrids are flowering now – I’ve had a lot of fun with these, aiming for certain combinations (not always succeeding - that would be boring).

Hepatica transsylvanica Lilacina x japonica Dryad Blush Group 5
Hepatica transsylvanica Lilacina x japonica Dryad Blush Group 10
Hepatica japonica petalloid seedling x pubescens Tenjinbai showing the hoped-for dark pistil
Hepatica Loddon Blue x pubescens Tenjin-umi showing the hoped-for dark centre
Hepatica maxima x nobilis Selma 4532-1-21 hoping for apricot flowers
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: annew on March 09, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
I think these two are my favourite -
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-17
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-18

Hepatica maxima x nobilis white Tabby have nice apple blossomy flowers and pretty marbled leaves
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 09, 2021, 06:16:50 PM
I think these two are my favourite -
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-17
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-18

Hepatica maxima x nobilis white Tabby have nice apple blossomy flowers and pretty marbled leaves
Well done, Anne! Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-18 is stunning!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 09, 2021, 06:26:20 PM
These are hybrid seedlings from a white japonica with violet anthers and a white/blue pyrenaica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 09, 2021, 07:05:34 PM
Anne, congratulations with the beautiful crosses of Hepatica’s.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 09, 2021, 08:11:18 PM
Congratulation Shelag for these big plants. For me 'Blue Sandan' is the best!
Anne, thanks for posting your crosses. I like the last 2 with the big flowers!
Carsten, your plants are perfect, as always. Also the last one is my favourite!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 09, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
I like Hepatica japonica 'Ryokurei', because flower and leafes are beautiful.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 09, 2021, 08:31:07 PM
And finally Hep. japonica Blue Sandan. Yes I know I've posted it before but that was on the 17th February. Cool weather and a spot in the frame means it was still looking good yesterday.

Cool weather is perfect for a long flowering Shelagh, and your plants performed so well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 09, 2021, 08:34:21 PM
I think these two are my favourite -
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-17
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-18
Hepatica maxima x nobilis white Tabby have nice apple blossomy flowers and pretty marbled leaves


Beautiful crosses Anne. I've never seen the H. americana Ashwood Flare (except in pictures) - how much bigger are the flowers on your seedlings?
I supposed H. maxima is used as a parent for flowers size (?).



Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 09, 2021, 08:36:21 PM
These are hybrid seedlings from a white japonica with violet anthers and a white/blue pyrenaica.

Fantastic Carsten, congrats. I like the lavender shade in all of them. And maiden flowers so you can easily cross them again!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 09, 2021, 08:45:36 PM
I like Hepatica japonica 'Ryokurei', because flower and leafes are beautiful.


Nice, I'm also after nice foliage Mellifera. Here's a japonica cross (not my cross) with superb foliage. It is also a good grower and I planted one in the ground last year. I am eagerly awaiting for the snow to melt.
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Today was special, I managed to open my cold frame first time since November (after shoveling snow+ice). The pots are frozen solid but hopefully they are OK.
Seedlings of Hepatica americana - shown in my avatar, one of my favourite and single specimen in the woods so in the year I found it I sowed all the seeds (greedy I now...).
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 09, 2021, 11:31:56 PM
Nice, I'm also after nice foliage Mellifera. Here's a japonica cross (not my cross) with superb foliage. It is also a good grower and I planted one in the ground last year. I am eagerly awaiting for the snow to melt.
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Today was special, I managed to open my cold frame first time since November (after shoveling snow+ice). The pots are frozen solid but hopefully they are OK.
Seedlings of Hepatica americana - shown in my avatar, one of my favourite and single specimen in the woods so in the year I found it I sowed all the seeds (greedy I now...).
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very nice leaf pattern. Gabriela your Hepatica acutiloba and americana seedlings are still under snow .
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 10, 2021, 11:23:34 PM
very nice leaf pattern. Gabriela your Hepatica acutiloba and americana seedlings are still under snow .

Under snow is good Kris, especially if it is still cold. My cold frame wasn't covered in snow for a while when the cold begun and I usually get a chance to open it a bit in late January or mid February, but not this year. Seedlings of Corydalis and other species are starting to grow very early inside; I don't understand how it happens with the pots being frozen solid.

The defrosted pots with Hepatica seedlings were looking good today; in the garage now, I will prick them out as soon as possible. I had good results with transplanting very early, before the new growth starts.

Few seedlings from a H. nobilis multipetal are flowering, like Carsten predicted, they are not doubles, but cute enough. I hope the one I gave you is blue at least, you have plenty of pink Hepatica.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 11, 2021, 07:21:33 AM
Gabriela, not double, but still beautiful! They are good Hepatica’s for in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 11, 2021, 10:05:15 AM
Really beautiful flowers in the previous page from everyone!
Gabriela, your multipetal Hepatica nobilis are so pretty. Petals are in perfect order:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 11, 2021, 10:56:00 AM

Few seedlings from a H. nobilis multipetal are flowering, like Carsten predicted, they are not doubles, but cute enough. I hope the one I gave you is blue at least, you have plenty of pink Hepatica.
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Gabriela, did I? ;-)  Very pretty nevertheless! What about the parents? I can't remember. And I have never seen a pink Multipetala form of nobilis before. Well done!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on March 11, 2021, 11:16:13 AM
I think these two are my favourite -
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-17
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-18

Anne, they are stunning  :).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on March 11, 2021, 05:04:35 PM
Anne my word you have been busy, I don't know how you have the patience.

Gabriela I love the one flower with the purple anthers that's a beauty.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 11, 2021, 06:36:41 PM
Thanks all. They seem to be good growers Herman, so yes I will plant some in the garden in late spring. I'll give away few, I don't need them all.

Carsten: in truth I didn't expect double flowers, but the anticipation of seeing new seedlings flower is hard to contend - as you well know :)
You mean you didn't see H. nobilis pink multipetals in the wild? I cannot believe there are not cultivated varieties around. I received the seeds as ex. H. nobilis multipetal, have no idea of the parents but I can inquire.
I also never found a Hepatica americana with true pink flowers, and multipetals are rare in general.

If it forms seeds you are welcomed, although this year there are just few flowers, plus who knows what will show up in the next generation.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 11, 2021, 07:15:46 PM
Under snow is good Kris, especially if it is still cold. My cold frame wasn't covered in snow for a while when the cold begun and I usually get a chance to open it a bit in late January or mid February, but not this year. Seedlings of Corydalis and other species are starting to grow very early inside; I don't understand how it happens with the pots being frozen solid.

The defrosted pots with Hepatica seedlings were looking good today; in the garage now, I will prick them out as soon as possible. I had good results with transplanting very early, before the new growth starts.

Few seedlings from a H. nobilis multipetal are flowering, like Carsten predicted, they are not doubles, but cute enough. I hope the one I gave you is blue at least, you have plenty of pink Hepatica.
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It is fantastic to see multipetal Hepatica on our side of the globe. Thank you Gabriela for the plant. Either pink or blue I will be very happy. I have lots of blue single petal ones too. I hope your Hepatica flowers this year. I kept that special plant inside, near the basement window and it is in bud now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 11, 2021, 07:30:23 PM
I think these two are my favourite -
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-17
Hepatica maxima x americana Ashwood Flare 4158-1-18

Hepatica maxima x nobilis white Tabby have nice apple blossomy flowers and pretty marbled leaves
Lovely flowers Anne
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on March 11, 2021, 09:03:53 PM
Gabriela, your pink multipetal is lovely. Like Carsten, I have never seen one in the wild. Actually not any cultivated either.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 11, 2021, 09:23:52 PM
Today it has been windy but rather mild, so some Hepaticas opend their flowers.
Hepatica nobilis 'Topaz Star' bud and fully opened
Hepatica nobilis bicoloured form
Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue' seedlings
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 11, 2021, 10:00:47 PM
Today it has been windy but rather mild, so some Hepaticas opend their flowers.
Hepatica nobilis 'Topaz Star' bud and fully opened
Hepatica nobilis bicoloured form
Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue' seedlings
Carsten, once again beautiful plants! Topaz Star is really a star!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 12, 2021, 01:01:29 AM
Gabriela, your pink multipetal is lovely. Like Carsten, I have never seen one in the wild. Actually not any cultivated either.

Thank you Gunilla. It is interesting to hear about this. Although I lived part of my life in Eastern Europe, in my region the 'queen of the woods' was H. transsilvanica. I really don't remember about H. nobilis and I wouldn't take pictures at the time.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 12, 2021, 01:04:01 AM
Today it has been windy but rather mild, so some Hepaticas opend their flowers.
Hepatica nobilis 'Topaz Star' bud and fully opened
Hepatica nobilis bicoloured form
Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue' seedlings

You manage such perfect pictures with the 'Topaz Star' Carsten!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 12, 2021, 01:37:42 AM
Today it has been windy but rather mild, so some Hepaticas opend their flowers.
Hepatica nobilis 'Topaz Star' bud and fully opened
Hepatica nobilis bicoloured form
Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue' seedlings
All of them beautiful. I love particularly the  "Bavarian blue". Carsten  I transplanted your
" Bavarian blue "seedling last year into the regular bed. I hope it is alive under the snow.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 12, 2021, 06:22:58 AM
'Topaz Star' is fabulous! I already admired it in February when you posted a picture of it, but this picture is so perfect:).
I like also bicoloured and 'Bavarian Blue', and hope to see mine flowering in next month. They are still under snow, which is good because this week the coldest night was -15C.
There is so much variation in H.nobilis in Europe.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on March 12, 2021, 06:28:21 AM
More Hepatica acutiloba (sharp-lobed Hepatica) seedlings have started to bloom. It is interesting to see the differences in the stamens between the two flowers. The bottom flower has more typical stamens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on March 12, 2021, 06:54:32 AM
'Topaz Star' is fabulous!

Carsten, I agree with Leena. 'Topaz Star' is very special. Beautiful colour and shape.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on March 12, 2021, 07:00:11 AM
More Hepatica acutiloba (sharp-lobed Hepatica) seedlings have started to bloom. It is interesting to see the differences in the stamens between the two flowers. The bottom flower has more typical stamens.

Thanks for showing us. The first one has stamens like an explosion  :). I like it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 12, 2021, 07:28:02 AM
More Hepatica acutiloba (sharp-lobed Hepatica) seedlings have started to bloom. It is interesting to see the differences in the stamens between the two flowers. The bottom flower has more typical stamens.
Very nice forms! I like the pastel tints of acutiloba and the upright habit of the flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on March 12, 2021, 07:29:13 AM
Carsten, I agree with Leena. 'Topaz Star' is very special. Beautiful colour and shape.
I agree, too! It's not only a beautiful color and shape, but the green stems make the flower stand out as well. Darker colored flower with green stems are rare in H. nobilis. Love it!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 12, 2021, 07:55:13 AM
More Hepatica acutiloba (sharp-lobed Hepatica) seedlings have started to bloom. It is interesting to see the differences in the stamens between the two flowers. The bottom flower has more typical stamens.
Peppa, very beautiful acutiloba. Here there is not so much variation in the colours. Hopefully you get a lot of seed of them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 12, 2021, 08:51:07 AM
In November 2020 there was a discussion about Hepatica ‘Millstream Merlin’ or Hepatica x media ‘Millstream Merlin’.
Now I have found this article http://www.hazelwoodfarm.co.uk/HelpingHepaticas.pdf

Recent DNA research on the American species now shows them not to be related to H. nobilis, so it may now seem appropriate to drop the ‘× media’ designation. Indeed as H. acutiloba has a tendency to produce maiden flowers, it may well be that the parentage of H. ‘Millstream Merlin’ is H. acutiloba × H. transsilvanica. A maiden form of Hepatica acutiloba has been exhibited by Diane Clement at some of the AGS shows, and the resemblance between her plant’s flowers and those of ‘Millstream Merlin’ is very striking, so it could be the seed parent.
No one can doubt the H. transsilvanica pollen parentage regarding the foliage. Whatever the parentage, ‘Millstream Merlin’ received an A.M. when exhibited in 1989 by the late Kath Dryden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 12, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
In November 2020 there was a discussion about Hepatica ‘Millstream Merlin’ or Hepatica x media ‘Millstream Merlin’.
Now I have found this article http://www.hazelwoodfarm.co.uk/HelpingHepaticas.pdf

Recent DNA research on the American species now shows them not to be related to H. nobilis, so it may now seem appropriate to drop the ‘× media’ designation. Indeed as H. acutiloba has a tendency to produce maiden flowers, it may well be that the parentage of H. ‘Millstream Merlin’ is H. acutiloba × H. transsilvanica. A maiden form of Hepatica acutiloba has been exhibited by Diane Clement at some of the AGS shows, and the resemblance between her plant’s flowers and those of ‘Millstream Merlin’ is very striking, so it could be the seed parent.
No one can doubt the H. transsilvanica pollen parentage regarding the foliage. Whatever the parentage, ‘Millstream Merlin’ received an A.M. when exhibited in 1989 by the late Kath Dryden.


Interesting article, Herman!  I thought it was quite obvious that this is a cross of acutiloba (nobilis var. acuta) x transsilvanica. The leaf veins of the plant remind me very much of acutiloba. 'Millstream Merlin' is really outstanding.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on March 12, 2021, 07:48:42 PM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments!

Peppa, very beautiful acutiloba. Here there is not so much variation in the colours. Hopefully you get a lot of seed of them.

I see many color variations of H. acutiloba in natural habitats in some areas but I rarely see any color variations offered in the nursery trade. Most of the plants I see at nurseries are whitish flowers with six sepals or so; it is very uncommon to see mid-deep colors or multi-sepaled forms even in the US.

It seems true that hybrids of H. acutiloba can produce maiden flowers, although maiden forms of pure H. acutiloba are rare and I only have two examples. However, putting pollen of other species on H. acutiloba can often create maiden form offspring. Here is a beautiful example of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica created by Rick Lupp from our local NARGS chapter Hepatica study group meeting several years ago. He said this cross he made produced all similar flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 12, 2021, 08:13:10 PM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments!

I see many color variations of H. acutiloba in natural habitats in some areas but I rarely see any color variations offered in the nursery trade. Most of the plants I see at nurseries are whitish flowers with six sepals or so; it is very uncommon to see mid-deep colors or multi-sepaled forms even in the US.

It seems true that hybrids of H. acutiloba can produce maiden flowers, although maiden forms of pure H. acutiloba are rare and I only have two examples. However, putting pollen of other species on H. acutiloba can often create maiden form offspring. Here is a beautiful example of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica created by Rick Lupp from our local NARGS chapter Hepatica study group meeting several years ago. He said this cross he made produced all similar flowers.
Peppa, it is a beautiful hybrid with pyrenaica! I like the upstanding flowers very much. If you have a large group of these, that must be impressive!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 12, 2021, 08:19:54 PM
More Hepatica acutiloba (sharp-lobed Hepatica) seedlings have started to bloom. It is interesting to see the differences in the stamens between the two flowers. The bottom flower has more typical stamens.

They are so very beautiful Peppa! I cannot wait to see them flowering here. There are few multipetals forms around, but none on the blue shade.

Thanks everyone for the nice comments!

I see many color variations of H. acutiloba in natural habitats in some areas but I rarely see any color variations offered in the nursery trade. Most of the plants I see at nurseries are whitish flowers with six sepals or so; it is very uncommon to see mid-deep colors or multi-sepaled forms even in the US.

It seems true that hybrids of H. acutiloba can produce maiden flowers, although maiden forms of pure H. acutiloba are rare and I only have two examples. However, putting pollen of other species on H. acutiloba can often create maiden form offspring. Here is a beautiful example of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica created by Rick Lupp from our local NARGS chapter Hepatica study group meeting several years ago. He said this cross he made produced all similar flowers.

This is an outstanding hybrid! I see H. acutiloba like a good parent for many crosses.
Regarding maiden flowers, I agree with you - pure maiden forms are most likely rare. I never found one although I've been actively looking. There is one specimen which I suspect of having sterile/defect anthers on the account that it forms very few seeds or not at all every year.

So, I am afraid that the affirmation from the article that "H. acutiloba has a tendency to produce maiden flowers' is completely wrong.
(H. americana is more inclined to produce maiden flowers).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 12, 2021, 10:07:20 PM
Here the cold has left the flowers in the ground but with the rain the latest days the ground is nolonger frozen.
Luckely I ordered plants from Andeas Händel (mr Hepatica) and they arrived
One was in flower the rest with buds.
They got a lof of beating in the transport but I will look more carefully at the tomorrow and add soil where needed
I added the flowering Hepatica transylvanica and the box of joy. 10 mixed nobilis and 10 mixed transylvanica. small plants but with flowers. Will be interesting to see also the foliage.
I also got Supernova and Weinreich weisse both transylvanica.
Will be interesting to see what fun things it will be
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Roma on March 12, 2021, 10:52:21 PM
They look interesting, Joakim.  Hope they are all ok.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Roma on March 12, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Selma'.  Seed from Dryad nursery sown in June 2018. Not sure how many seeds I had but 18 plants were potted in April 2020.  These are the first flowers and all flowering so far are the same colour.

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Hepatica nobilis

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 12, 2021, 11:58:33 PM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments!

I see many color variations of H. acutiloba in natural habitats in some areas but I rarely see any color variations offered in the nursery trade. Most of the plants I see at nurseries are whitish flowers with six sepals or so; it is very uncommon to see mid-deep colors or multi-sepaled forms even in the US.

It seems true that hybrids of H. acutiloba can produce maiden flowers, although maiden forms of pure H. acutiloba are rare and I only have two examples. However, putting pollen of other species on H. acutiloba can often create maiden form offspring. Here is a beautiful example of H. acutiloba x H. nobilis var. pyrenaica created by Rick Lupp from our local NARGS chapter Hepatica study group meeting several years ago. He said this cross he made produced all similar flowers.

The flowers are really really beautiful.Thanks for showing it Peppa
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Matt T on March 13, 2021, 10:03:38 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Selma'.

Such a pretty shade of pink! Lovely, Roma.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Roma on March 13, 2021, 11:21:50 AM
Plenty spares, Matt if you would like one (or a few).  I am missing shows where I could dispose of surplus plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 13, 2021, 11:32:30 AM
I like Hepatica nobilis 'Selma', Roma
Hepatica nobilis Alba Plena type 'Ireland'. Here you can see how big the flower is if you compare it with my fingers.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 13, 2021, 11:50:19 AM
Hepatica henryi Alba Plena
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 13, 2021, 11:59:16 AM
Hepatica henryi Alba Plena
Patrick, your Hepatica henry ‘Alba Plena’ is very beautiful! I find it very interesting.  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 13, 2021, 10:55:57 PM
Hi Selma has tones of yellow / orange in the pink does it not?
That is what makes it stand out or have I missed it? It is difficult for me to see if the seedlings you got also have this yellow tone.
For sure they are nice looking!
And great that you got so many plants :)

On a separate questions.
How safe is it to have plants of nobilis and transylvanicas in pots when they are in bud and there will be temperatures a few degrees below zero (Celsius that is).
I was planning to leave the plants in the pots until they show colour on flower and foliage to determine where they will be planted.
The same goes for Cordyalis solida plants that I also have in a pot. The weather in Germany was a bit further ahead than the weather in southern Sweden. I know that Hepatica can be in pots if they have been there all time but a bit unsure about the difference in how far they are in my pots compared to how far they are in ground.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 14, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Selma'.  Seed from Dryad nursery sown in June 2018. Not sure how many seeds I had but 18 plants were potted in April 2020.  These are the first flowers and all flowering so far are the same colour.

A nice nobilis form Roma and plenty of pots to share! It becomes a problem indeed when growing from seeds.
I like the trough with Hepatica in all colors :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 14, 2021, 02:13:39 PM
Hepatica henryi Alba Plena

I didn't know there was a Plena for H. henry Mellifera. I only have the regular species.
I found the foliage to be most remarkable.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 14, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
Good luck with all your new acquisitions Joakim! Lucky that you can purchase all sorts of treasures.

Re: "How safe is it to have plants of nobilis and transylvanicas in pots when they are in bud and there will be temperatures a few degrees below zero (Celsius that is).
I was planning to leave the plants in the pots until they show colour on flower and foliage to determine where they will be planted.
The same goes for Cordyalis solida plants that I also have in a pot. "

I say you don't have a choice anyway, you cannot plant in the ground at this time. So, keep them together in a sheltered location, and if it gets too cold, you can cover them
overnight with a blanket.
For Corydalis solida I advise you keep it growing in the pot until it goes dormant (water, fertilize to encourage good growth of the tuber). If you plant/transplant Corydalis while in growth they don't like it and go dormant right away.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 14, 2021, 09:46:22 PM
Thanks for the input Gabriela
Yes Gabriela I am fortunate to be able to get the plants. Nothing from the UK so Europe is the only option. No markets here in Sweden so online is the only option. The prices for a mix box was quite ok so a good start to get a bit different colours. Will be interesting to see foliage and colour. So far I see a few pink buds so I am happy.. Maybe go for different plants "named" next time.
I see that the hepaticas is not so far off in how far they have come now and they seem to be ok. They got a few days of  above zero so will make it I hope. I can put them under some cover If it get really cold.

The corydalis is the ones with biggest difference between Sweden and Germany so will stay in their pots.

The ground is  frost free now but I will wait a bit to plant the hepaticas. The Eranthis went into ground as it was more or less as far come as the Swedish ones. Seems there will be seed on some so hopefully I can spread them to be able to get a lot in mixed colors :)
I also planted the snowdrops that came in the "green" and they will hopefully enjoy it too. Less lawn and more place for flowers :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: shelagh on March 15, 2021, 01:49:46 PM
Last picture of our Hepaticas. Brian lifted them all out of the greenhouse for me this morning.

Top row:- Hep. j. HoHo Beni    Hep. j. Ryougetsu     Hep. j. Gyousei

Front row:-  Hep. j. Toki    Hep. nobilis Pygmy strain     Hep. n. blue      Hep. n. pink
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 15, 2021, 02:05:40 PM
Last picture of our Hepaticas. Brian lifted them all out of the greenhouse for me this morning.

Top row:- Hep. j. HoHo Beni    Hep. j. Ryougetsu     Hep. j. Gyousei

Front row:-  Hep. j. Toki    Hep. nobilis Pygmy strain     Hep. n. blue      Hep. n. pink
Shelagh, very nice bench!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 15, 2021, 05:33:37 PM
Thank you for sharing Shelag.  Hep. j. Gyousei had a good deep colour. Maybe you have a single photo from it?
I will divide a few of my hepaticas after flowering. If anybody is interested please let me know per pm.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2021, 03:22:51 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Peach Blossom' selection from Lithuania.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 17, 2021, 11:36:26 AM
Different types of Hepatica nobilis, maiden and supercentra.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 17, 2021, 01:29:28 PM
Very nice maiden forms and supercentra! Supercentra is not the same as semidouble, or is the a difference what is called supercentra and which semidouble?
I like how your H.nobilis has petals which are wide and overlap each other. Here in the wild most H.nobilis have narrower petals, but I have found some with wide petals, too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 17, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
Different types of Hepatica nobilis, maiden and supercentra.
Carsten, nice maiden form, easy for making crosses.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 18, 2021, 12:10:08 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Peach Blossom' selection from Lithuania.

Nice Herman, large flowers and it seems very robust.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 18, 2021, 12:13:12 AM
Different types of Hepatica nobilis, maiden and supercentra.

Was the maiden form a find or grown from seeds Carsten?
Same like Leena, it seems self explanatory, but I don't know the term 'supercentra'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 18, 2021, 08:00:18 AM
Was the maiden form a find or grown from seeds Carsten?
Same like Leena, it seems self explanatory, but I don't know the term 'supercentra'.
All three forms are from seed. Pic 2 and 3 are seedlings of the 'Severin-Strain' distributed from Andreas Händel and originated (or offspring) from a cross of 'Schlyter's No. 5' (single blue, from Severin Schlyter) x 'Tausendschön' (multipetala, blue). The first one is a own cross from the plant in pic 3 with a very intense red form of nobilis.

Leena and Gabriela: There is one cultivar named 'Supercentra'. It's stamens are converted to tepals that look like a crown in the centre of the flower. In the meantime many other similar forms were grown from seed or found. I call them supercentra types.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 18, 2021, 09:25:39 AM
Thanks Carsten:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 18, 2021, 03:01:09 PM
Amazing flowers Carsten!
Is Hep. nobilis 'Bergfexing' also a 'Supercentra'?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 18, 2021, 11:13:52 PM
All three forms are from seed. Pic 2 and 3 are seedlings of the 'Severin-Strain' distributed from Andreas Händel and originated (or offspring) from a cross of 'Schlyter's No. 5' (single blue, from Severin Schlyter) x 'Tausendschön' (multipetala, blue). The first one is a own cross from the plant in pic 3 with a very intense red form of nobilis.

Leena and Gabriela: There is one cultivar named 'Supercentra'. It's stamens are converted to tepals that look like a crown in the centre of the flower. In the meantime many other similar forms were grown from seed or found. I call them supercentra types.

Thank you Carsten. The pink-rather violet maiden is very beautiful. You should obtain great seedlings from it!
Supercentra is a very good name for this type of flowers, rather than multipetals.

Because you asked about the pink nobilis multipetal - I am afraid the origin will remain unknown. The person who gave me the seeds answered: "name it and multiply it" :) He only remembers the seeds were from a blue multipetal from the garden (own cross, but the label is long gone). How come some flowered pink remains a mystery.

From the same batch, which had excellent germination, I have few more pots outdoors which will flower later, I am very curious about them.
With the name was easy, I named it 'Walter'; with the multiplying it will take some time.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 18, 2021, 11:18:29 PM
Just for fun, I was transplanting seedlings today when I noticed something weird on the double japonica I showed last year. It remained in the garage so the flowers are not fully open yet.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2021, 07:42:18 AM
Amazing flowers Carsten!
Is Hep. nobilis 'Bergfexing' also a 'Supercentra'?
In my view, it is a supercentra type and worth a cultivar name.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 19, 2021, 07:49:45 AM
Thank you Carsten. The pink-rather violet maiden is very beautiful. You should obtain great seedlings from it!
Supercentra is a very good name for this type of flowers, rather than multipetals.

Because you asked about the pink nobilis multipetal - I am afraid the origin will remain unknown. The person who gave me the seeds answered: "name it and multiply it" :) He only remembers the seeds were from a blue multipetal from the garden (own cross, but the label is long gone). How come some flowered pink remains a mystery.

From the same batch, which had excellent germination, I have few more pots outdoors which will flower later, I am very curious about them.
With the name was easy, I named it 'Walter'; with the multiplying it will take some time.
I'am crossing like mad with this types ;-)
Thank you for your search about the multipetala form. So, go for seedlings of these plants ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 19, 2021, 09:04:26 AM
One of my favourites
Hepatica x media 'Millstream Merlin'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 19, 2021, 09:20:12 AM
Hepatica henryi 'Rosea Plena'
Hepatica japonica 'Shiun'
Hepatica japonica 'Kouten'
Hepatica japonica 'Omurasaki'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 19, 2021, 05:23:55 PM
Patrick, you have very special Hepatica henryi!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 19, 2021, 08:08:02 PM
Today the Hepatica's enjoyed the sun.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 19, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
Hepatica nobilis Multipetala Group

Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 19, 2021, 11:25:47 PM
Hepatica nobilis Multipetala Group

Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica
Your Hepaticas are very attractive.  I like the natural look of the flowers in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 20, 2021, 12:02:06 AM
Hepatica nobilis "bergfexing" seedlings survived the brutal winter weather of Saskatoon. It may not flower this year but I am happy they survived. Thank you Carsten. These seedlings are from your seeds I got 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 20, 2021, 09:21:44 AM
Herman, your multipetala group Hepatica is so pretty!

Kris, it is nice to see that snow has melted over there. My Hepaticas are still under snow:(, spring always comes so slowly here. Last night it was still -12C.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 20, 2021, 11:33:02 AM
Thank you Kris and Leena.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 20, 2021, 01:42:36 PM
Herman, your multipetala group Hepatica is so pretty!

Kris, it is nice to see that snow has melted over there. My Hepaticas are still under snow:(, spring always comes so slowly here. Last night it was still -12C.
Hi Leena the snow hasn't melted completely. This particular seed bed is in an area where it gets lots of sun. We still have about a foot of snow in some place. Lots of my hepaticas are under snow now but the weather is warming slowly..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 20, 2021, 05:09:09 PM
I'am crossing like mad with this types ;-)
Thank you for your search about the multipetala form. So, go for seedlings of these plants ...

It's great to cross a lot when you have plants with good genes :)
Given the situation I doubt that my multipetals would come true from seeds, so I have to grow them well to be able to divide.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 20, 2021, 05:11:00 PM
Hepatica nobilis Multipetala Group

Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica

Beautiful garden display Herman.
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica cross is particularly delightful.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 20, 2021, 07:58:50 PM
Patrick, you have very special Hepatica henryi!

Yes Herman, this one is really special.  ;D
It has a double flower.

Your‘s are very beautiful. I like the white one!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 21, 2021, 07:15:48 AM
Hepatica nobilis "bergfexing" seedlings survived the brutal winter weather of Saskatoon. It may not flower this year but I am happy they survived. Thank you Carsten. These seedlings are from your seeds I got 2 years ago.
The leaves look good after your hard winter. What´s about the crossing partner? I can't remember. 'Bergfexing' is only the pollen dispenser.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 21, 2021, 02:24:15 PM
The leaves look good after your hard winter. What´s about the crossing partner? I can't remember. 'Bergfexing' is only the pollen dispenser.
Carsten from your H.maiden I got only two seedlings and one died and another one is still there. I think our weather is too brutal for hepaticas. I am so scared to even move that one from the seed bed this year. I will try to grow it well so that next year I can move it to a regular bed.The "berg flexing seedlings" look sturdy.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 24, 2021, 02:09:28 PM
Getting into the habitat with Hepatica, Corydalis, Erythronium. Trillium, Crocus, Narcissus and many more delights to see when you click on the link to the Bulb Log.
https://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2021Mar241616580292BULB_LOG_1221.pdf


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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 24, 2021, 05:29:49 PM
Today lovely Hepatica weather:

Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica

Hepatica nobilis Multipetala Group

Hepatica 'Millstream Merlin' grows very slowly.

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Karpatenkrone'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 24, 2021, 05:33:50 PM
Hepatica transsilvanica ‘Alba’

Hepatica nobilis plena from Gotland
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 24, 2021, 06:03:44 PM
Herman - at last spring is starting ;-) Very nice show! Your double form is impressiv!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 24, 2021, 06:12:01 PM
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I'am following the bulb log for many years now and it is always something new to see or to learn.
I can remember well when Ian built this space and I was very sceptical about the look. But it turned out to be a very good idea and the Hepaticas seem to like the area.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 25, 2021, 12:33:24 AM
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A little corner of paradise :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 25, 2021, 12:35:26 AM
Today lovely Hepatica weather:


You have the most impressive Hepatica clumps in the ground Herman!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2021, 06:32:38 AM
Herman, your Hepaticas: wow! Especially the big clump, how can even it grow so big, and so floriferous. How old is it?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 07:18:07 AM
Gestern, 24.03.21 Saisonbeginn:

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Eigene "Aquarell" von Axel
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Neuester Gartenfindling "Novum"
rosa, streifig

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Skyline Strain
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Püncktchen
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 07:24:06 AM
Eisvogel
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Odette
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Milstrem Merlin, mehr Sonne = schneller!
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 25, 2021, 07:33:33 AM

Very nice - Thanks for sharing your Hepatica pics!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2021, 07:38:06 AM
Thank you also from me.
The second one from the bottom, the light blue one caught my eye, a very nice colour and shape.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 25, 2021, 08:22:53 AM
Herman, your Hepaticas: wow! Especially the big clump, how can even it grow so big, and so floriferous. How old is it?
Leena, I got this Hepatica nobilis plena from Gotland in 2003 and divided it a few times, it is a good grower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 25, 2021, 08:24:30 AM
Gestern, 24.03.21 Saisonbeginn:

Starking007, it is a pity that I can't see your pictures.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 25, 2021, 08:27:36 AM
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Maggi and Ian, nice impressions of the Hepatica's in its environment. I also try to create such corners, but it takes some time.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: pehe on March 25, 2021, 12:20:21 PM
Some Hepatica nobilis from my garden
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 25, 2021, 04:20:41 PM
Herman, your Hepatica Flora Plena is great! How many flowers are open at the same time? 50? :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 25, 2021, 04:26:20 PM
Herman, your Hepatica Flora Plena is great! How many flowers are open at the same time? 50? :o
Patrick, it is more around 100 for 1 plant!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2021, 06:13:29 PM
Starking - thank you so much for  reposting your  lovely photos!  I hope  we  can all enjoy them now!
Ja danke, jetzt ist alles gut !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 25, 2021, 06:22:26 PM
Thank you Starking, beautiful Hepatica's. About Eisvogel, I don't see any blue at the outside!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 06:43:33 PM
Ich habe jetzt die Ordner-Freigabe beändert, geht es nun?

Albino-Findling
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 06:46:11 PM
Thank you Starking, beautiful Hepatica's. About Eisvogel, I don't see any blue at the outside!

An der Rückseite der Knospe,
sicher bin ich mir nicht!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 06:48:25 PM
Mit Purpurschimmer
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fD-kT6DIIl3vqSQpBpc6UbW26pk_OEyjz-iVe0cR0U44_-m8mAZdZyUnHxFZ-p0Jg6fx78zW8xW5UtyPFgNoLUDEDHK3lnWxrik4MC388MJwthu79MtnHwFo77wrEINyqHddkIp_ZgP9HuRAaNYCyI=w1028-h770-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eCT-T52cJAl4I7UXYnvOf6o0hyR2dzpeKYp7C9RVn509erZQevAYooAVeWdySDLJyHC_BnOfkRlWlaMoqDsR3uW9s4hcpELapG7_mj4RlfXvKi9Ccms-8NQAEW2-jnDFpASslQHBDCzNt1LuC-HlBF=w1028-h770-no?authuser=0)

Frostschaden
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 06:50:10 PM
Wenn es zuviel wird, sagt Stopp!

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
Novum
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2021, 07:03:24 PM
Ich habe jetzt die Ordner-Freigabe beändert, geht es nun?


Ja danke, jetzt ist alles gut !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 25, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Starking, you have already a beautiful collection (Sie haben bereits eine schöne Sammlung).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on March 25, 2021, 07:14:34 PM
Die meisten sind eigene Findlinge
wie Püncktchen
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Noch ein anderes
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Das ist immer das Gleiche, hab nur eines davon.
Die blaustreifigen sind meist unterschiedliche Pflanzen.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 25, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
Herman, Poul, Starking -fantastic Hepaticas. Spring gives us great joy

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 26, 2021, 07:27:30 AM
Poul and starking007, thank´s for sharing!
Novum is very cute starking
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 26, 2021, 05:14:39 PM
Leena, I got this Hepatica nobilis plena from Gotland in 2003 and divided it a few times, it is a good grower.

So it is quite old plant but also you have a really good soil for it to grow so well!
Last autumn I bought one double H.nobilis Gotland from Germany (still under snow), but maybe there are many forms of nobilis from Gotland around.

Poul and strking 007, you have so wonderful plants. Thanks for showing them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 27, 2021, 12:43:57 AM
Very beautiful Hepaticas from all! It seems that spring is in full swing in Europe.

The Hepatica japonica forms (3-4 years old) planted in the ground last summer are blooming, triggered by the unusual high temp. of this week. Today is back to reality and it will get colder but at least I know that they are cold resistant. They may even thrive, who knows? it is worth trying.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 27, 2021, 07:04:55 AM
It is always so nice to see plants come through winter so fine:). Leaves of the blue one are beautifully patterned, but all flowers are very pretty, especially ones with darker stamens. Is the white one also H.japonica?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 27, 2021, 10:09:06 AM
Very beautiful Hepaticas from all! It seems that spring is in full swing in Europe.

The Hepatica japonica forms (3-4 years old) planted in the ground last summer are blooming, triggered by the unusual high temp. of this week. Today is back to reality and it will get colder but at least I know that they are cold resistant. They may even thrive, who knows? it is worth trying.

Gabriela, beautiful japonica's! They even look like nobilis. Here I have tried a few times japonica in the garden, but I always lose them after one or two years.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 27, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
It is always so nice to see plants come through winter so fine:). Leaves of the blue one are beautifully patterned, but all flowers are very pretty, especially ones with darker stamens. Is the white one also H.japonica?

Yes, the white is actually the only one that wasn't grown from seeds. I bought it years ago from a mail-order BC nursery (mix of seedlings, so I didn't know what will be). Then we got a killer winter and I almost kill it in my patio garden. There was no good drainage in the location it was planted (many other plants disappeared that year, including a H. transsilvanica). I saved one little piece and I was amazed it came back to life, albeit very, very slowly.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 27, 2021, 02:58:54 PM
Gabriela, beautiful japonica's! They even look like nobilis. Here I have tried a few times japonica in the garden, but I always lose them after one or two years.

Yes, I know it can happen, but since I have enough young plants and seedlings to spare I don't worry much about it.
Carpe diem with Hepaticas :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on March 27, 2021, 05:06:00 PM
Beautiful Hepatica japonica Gabriela. They glow in your garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 27, 2021, 06:57:16 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. acuta

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Ada Scott'

Hepatica nobilis var. insularis

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 28, 2021, 12:44:09 AM
Nice hepaticas!
Lovely to see a double in such a big plant was it four that all grow well or is it different plants?. The light makes it difficult to see if they are identical or not! Hepatica Gotland seems to be a clumper as they say about bulbs. Is the foliage plain green or with marbled pattern?

Starking
Welcome to the forum and what an entrance you do!
Did you grow other spotted hepaticas in the garden or where did the spots come from?
Are they all nobilis? The transylvanicas are obviously not nobilis but all the spotted and skylines?

There is now a tremendous pattern and colour mix in nobilis as well!

Keep up the photos they are lovely


Here a bit of sun and warmer weather has got the hepaticas going :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 28, 2021, 12:50:38 AM
From my box of joy
I have 4 nice nobilis in bloom
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 28, 2021, 12:59:09 AM
I also have 3 transylvanica in flower from the shipment
1 of the many nonamed and Weinreich weisse and Supernova
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 28, 2021, 02:15:13 AM
Not very friendly with the transfer of photos from phone to computer so sorry for that
I do have a question if acutoloba has bigger flowers than nobilis in general?
I have one as acutoloba and the foliage is a bit pointier than some nobilis but not totally different from all. It seems to have quite big flowers as big as transylvanica and significant bigger than the nobilis next to it. It might be a hybrid or not at all a acutoloba so if one can tell from a flower here is a picture
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 28, 2021, 09:46:07 AM
Nice hepaticas!
Lovely to see a double in such a big plant was it four that all grow well or is it different plants?. The light makes it difficult to see if they are identical or not! Hepatica Gotland seems to be a clumper as they say about bulbs. Is the foliage plain green or with marbled leaves.

Joakim, it is all from one small plant. The leaves are not complete plain green.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 28, 2021, 01:24:13 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica is enjoying the sun and it will flower for a long time because it is sterile.

Hepatica 15005 02 a seedling from 2015, parents unknown.

Hepatica nobilis var. acuta

Hepatica nobilis 'Alba'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 28, 2021, 08:11:56 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica is enjoying the sun and it will flower for a long time because it is sterile.

Hepatica 15005 02 a seedling from 2015, parents unknown.

Hepatica nobilis var. acuta

Hepatica nobilis 'Alba'
Very nice, Herman! I like your seedling!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 28, 2021, 10:28:50 PM
Beautiful Hepatica japonica Gabriela. They glow in your garden.

Thanks Kris. It is a good feature that they flower earlier than the natives, I wouldn't mind to have 'waves' of flowering Hepatica starting in late March into late April :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 28, 2021, 10:32:14 PM
All nice Herman. I like the H. insularis, has a very nice marbled foliage.
And of course the 'seedling' is superb.

It seems that the last H. acutiloba with large light pink flowers is a maiden form? I can't see in detail.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 28, 2021, 10:44:04 PM
Not very friendly with the transfer of photos from phone to computer so sorry for that
I do have a question if acutoloba has bigger flowers than nobilis in general?
I have one as acutoloba and the foliage is a bit pointier than some nobilis but not totally different from all. It seems to have quite big flowers as big as transylvanica and significant bigger than the nobilis next to it. It might be a hybrid or not at all a acutoloba so if one can tell from a flower here is a picture

Joakim, I hope all your new addition will grow well in your garden; nice start for a small collection.

Regarding your question: first of all, it is not after the flowers that you can distinguish the H. acutiloba from H. nobilis, or H. americana. Yes, in general the flowers are bigger, but not always. There is soemthing that you can look in flowers - the involucral bracts which must have acute ends.

But the most important and easy character are the leaves. I think I posted pictures before, I have plenty. The middle lobe of the leaf it is +/- acute or acuminate in H. acutiloba; see a few examples. There are variations, like with everything else in nature, but in general this is how the foliage should look.

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Also, the lenght of the middle lobe should be 70-90% from the total leaf blade; see a picture I made a few years ago to exemplify.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 29, 2021, 12:08:17 AM
All nice Herman. I like the H. insularis, has a very nice marbled foliage.
And of course the 'seedling' is superb.

It seems that the last H. acutiloba with large light pink flowers is a maiden form? I can't see in detail.
Yes  Gabriela, it is a maiden form. I will try to pollinate them with the special seedling.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 29, 2021, 07:51:11 AM
Hepatica nobilis var. nobilis is in full bloom now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 29, 2021, 07:55:36 AM
Some Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 29, 2021, 08:03:08 AM
Hepatica x schlyteri and a media in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 29, 2021, 09:03:47 AM
Carsten, great Hepatica's! Beautiful colors and flower forms. This week will be very sunny, so there will be a lot of flowers to enjoy.
Your Hepatica x schlyteri are doing very well in your garden. Are they complete sterile or can you cross them with Hepatica's with genes for filled flowers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on March 29, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Carsten, great Hepatica's! Beautiful colors and flower forms. This week will be very sunny, so there will be a lot of flowers to enjoy.
Your Hepatica x schlyteri are doing very well in your garden. Are they complete sterile or can you cross them with Hepatica's with genes for filled flowers.
Herman, most plants are sterile.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on March 29, 2021, 07:26:42 PM
Carsten, thank you for these great pictures!

Here the hepatica saison is slowly coming to an end.
I have a few beautys, which I'd like to show you.

Hepatica nobilis 'Kyrvinberg'
It was found in 1956 in Norway on an island, called Hestholmen. There was an old farm named ,Kyrvinberg'. And there this blue filled plant has grown.

Hepatica nobilis Alba Plena 'Stockholm'
The plant was found near Stockholm (maybe from Schlyter). It has a lightly yellow touch in the flower.

Hepatica henryi Alba Plena full open with 3 flowers.

Hepatica nobilis 'Rote Glut' form Germany. A breded red filled form.

Hepatica japonica 'Shinku'
A dark red double flower without antheres. Maybe one of the best clones in europe..

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 29, 2021, 07:52:27 PM
Gabriela, thank you for posting the picture of the dimensions of H.acutiloba.

Carsten, your Hepatica season is so long when you have plants in the greenhouse and outside.
H.nobilis has such amazing forms and the blue in H.x schlyteri is really something.

Mellifera, how interesting filled forms, really beautiful.

Here the season is slowly starting when snow is melting. H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni' had well advanced buds when the snow melted. This picture is from yesterday, today it has rained all day, and more snow melts.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 29, 2021, 08:12:33 PM
Yes  Gabriela, it is a maiden form. I will try to pollinate them with the special seedling.

Good things may arise from a cross like this Herman!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 29, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
Some Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica in the garden.
Hepatica x schlyteri and a media in the garden.

A great Hepatica show Carsten! Sunny spring days with Hepatica flowers - the best of the best :)
The third picture (white flowers) it looks a lot like a H. acutiloba on a superficial look.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 29, 2021, 08:17:49 PM

Here the hepatica saison is slowly coming to an end.
I have a few beautys, which I'd like to show you.

Very interesting forms Mellifera, thanks for showing. The dark red japonica is special.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 29, 2021, 08:20:07 PM
Gabriela, thank you for posting the picture of the dimensions of H.acutiloba.

Here the season is slowly starting when snow is melting. H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni' had well advanced buds when the snow melted. This picture is from yesterday, today it has rained all day, and more snow melts.

We have to allow a bit of variation for the foliage Leena but in general is a good indicator.
What a happy sight to see the first Hepatica buds :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 29, 2021, 08:26:57 PM
We are back to minus temp. during night, so no new flowers.
But I can go back to admire foliage in the garage. H. nobilis  fo. crenatiloba' jewelry-like foliage.
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Is Crenatiloba a cultivar (like I wrote it) or a form of H. nobilis? - changed it, thanks Herman.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 29, 2021, 08:36:18 PM
Carsten, thank you for these great pictures!

Here the hepatica saison is slowly coming to an end.
I have a few beautys, which I'd like to show you.

Hepatica nobilis 'Kyrvinberg'
It was found in 1956 in Norway on an island, called Hestholmen. There was an old farm named ,Kyrvinberg'. And there this blue filled plant has grown.

Hepatica nobilis Alba Plena 'Stockholm'
The plant was found near Stockholm (maybe from Schlyter). It has a lightly yellow touch in the flower.

Hepatica henryi Alba Plena full open with 3 flowers.

Hepatica nobilis 'Rote Glut' form Germany. A breded red filled form.

Hepatica japonica 'Shinku'
A dark red double flower without antheres. Maybe one of the best clones in europe..
Patrick, great Hepatica’s! Thank you for showing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 29, 2021, 08:53:09 PM
We are back to minus temp. during night, so no new flowers.
But I can go back to admire foliage in the garage. H. nobilis 'Crenatiloba' jewelry-like foliage.
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Is Crenatiloba a cultivar (like I wrote it) or a form of H. nobilis?
Gabriela, ‘Cremar’ is a cultivar but crenatiloba is a form!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on March 29, 2021, 10:41:21 PM
Nice forms of Hepatica shown by so many

Gabriella glad that your answer to my question also helped others. Thanks for the info. The mid one will be the decisive one as others also have foliage with points of the edges of the foliage.
I will have a good look when the new foliage forms.

As I like plants it is not that important what it is as it is a good plant, but still it is fun to have a different type of Hepatica compared to our wild ones.

Rain here so no picture or indication of what other colours there will be.

Is transylvanica sensitive on how deep they are planted? I have a feeling my transylvanica came too deep in the soil and do not come back :( this year. They flowered well last year. I expected that hepaticas living in forests would make it less sensitive to having extra things on top of it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 30, 2021, 07:55:40 AM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Elison Spence'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on March 30, 2021, 07:06:40 PM
Gabriela, ‘Cremar’ is a cultivar but crenatiloba is a form!

Thanks Herman. I never been quite sure which is what because I've seen them written in all ways.

H. transsilvanica 'Elison Spence' looks to be at peak flowering :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 30, 2021, 09:02:00 PM
Thanks Herman. I never been quite sure which is what because I've seen them written in all ways.

H. transsilvanica 'Elison Spence' looks to be at peak flowering :)
Gabriela, there are still buds that will come open.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Roma on March 30, 2021, 09:13:03 PM
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I've never had a Hepatica nobilis with as many flowers open at one time as this blue one
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Roma on March 30, 2021, 09:16:17 PM
A nice pink one.  I got it's parent or grandparent many years ago from Edrom.  I lost the original but found a seedling and have more self sown seedlings all identical to the parent.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 30, 2021, 09:32:07 PM
Roma, nice Hepatica's! Thank you for showing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on March 31, 2021, 07:22:26 PM
Today opened the first of H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni'. So pretty:). It is interesting to notice that all H.pubescens have buds more developed at this time than any of H.japonicas (or H.nobilis).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 31, 2021, 08:17:17 PM
Today opened the first of H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni'. So pretty:). It is interesting to notice that all H.pubescens have buds more developed at this time than any of H.japonicas (or H.nobilis).
Leena, nice pubescens! So the Hepatica’s are starting to flower in your garden. I look forward to see some more.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 01, 2021, 11:59:00 PM
More beauties Roma and Leena!

I took few more pictures yesterday ahead of a new cold snap. Hepatica transsilvanica grown from seeds (thanks Kris) is flowering for the first time :) blue and also a white one which had few buds destroyed in the last cold snap. I am very happy, it's been years since I got the chance to see it in flower in the mountains. I mostly visit in late summer.
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H. japonica forms continue to flower. I wasn't quite taken with H. j. ex. 'Hosyun' last year so it got into the 'experimental lot' for planting in the ground.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 02, 2021, 08:00:28 PM
More beauties Roma and Leena!

I took few more pictures yesterday ahead of a new cold snap. Hepatica transsilvanica grown from seeds (thanks Kris) is flowering for the first time :) blue and also a white one which had few buds destroyed in the last cold snap. I am very happy, it's been years since I got the chance to see it in flower in the mountains. I mostly visit in late summer.
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H. japonica forms continue to flower. I wasn't quite taken with H. j. ex. 'Hosyun' last year so it got into the 'experimental lot' for planting in the ground.
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Gabriela, nice to see that your Hepatica season is going to start.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 03, 2021, 12:19:33 AM
Gabriela, nice to see that your Hepatica season is going to start.

Thanks Herman, yes it seems it will be an early Hepatica flowering this spring, due to the unusual warm weather we had a week ago.
Today, with 3C at midday, sunny and crisp, I was surprised to find even in the woods a few very advanced Hepaticas!

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Well, I tried to post more picture but it seems large images are not allowed again.



Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 03, 2021, 01:28:43 AM
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I've never had a Hepatica nobilis with as many flowers open at one time as this blue one
Beautiful blue shade Roma. I always have an attraction for blue flowers.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 03, 2021, 03:15:32 AM
Today opened the first of H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni'. So pretty:). It is interesting to notice that all H.pubescens have buds more developed at this time than any of H.japonicas (or H.nobilis).
Very pretty one Leena.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 04, 2021, 09:17:20 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Alba Plena' found in Borgholm, Öland, Sweden

Hepatica nobilis 'Black Eye' from Mr Sven-Erik Beigler, Kungälv, Sweden

Thanks Gunilla.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 04, 2021, 09:19:26 AM
Hepatica maxima x Hepatica  japonica 'Touyama-shigure'

Hepatica maxima x Hepatica nobilis 'Bavarian Blue'

Thanks Carsten.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 05, 2021, 10:56:07 AM
Herman, how lovely Swedish Hepaticas.

Here nights are again colder, so flowering is delayed, but there are lot of fat buds.
Hepatica x schlyteri from Ashwood two years ago.
Another H.pubescens ex Hohobeni, a darker pink.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 05, 2021, 11:10:40 AM
Herman, how lovely Swedish Hepaticas.

Here nights are again colder, so flowering is delayed, but there are lot of fat buds.
Hepatica x schlyteri from Ashwood two years ago.
Another H.pubescens ex Hohobeni, a darker pink.
Leena, I find this one more beautiful!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 05, 2021, 11:28:33 AM
It is really pretty! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 05, 2021, 05:40:44 PM
Nice Herman; luckily there are many sources of lovely Hepaticas that you can access.
Does the maxima x japonica 'Touyama-shigure' has a particularly large flower or is just the way the picture was taken?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 05, 2021, 05:41:37 PM
It is really pretty! :)

Extremely pretty! :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 05, 2021, 05:44:40 PM
H. x media 'Silberprinzess' flowering for the first time (from a small division). The chipmunks are awake and eating Hepatica flowers at the moment  >:( so
I cannot wait for all the buds to open.
Without the label I would have said is a transsilvanica.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 05, 2021, 06:52:33 PM
Nice hepaticas
Here we have got all 4 seasons in 24h. We went from summer to autumn, to winter and back to spring and it went several cycles

Been taking photos and see that the flowers size and shape and even colour is changing. They tend to start much darker and then they with a bit of sun they fade quite a bit. Or is it time?
All my plants receive sun so I can not distinguish time and sun.

Very happy with my plants from last year 2019 autumn from Anne. Oheilia has a very nice colour initially very dark even if it fades a bit it still have a nice colour in the end.

The plants from Andreas Händel is showing quite a bit of diversity on the nobilis but so far not so much exiting amongst the mixed transsylvanica. Not many of the transsylvanica in flower and all blue so far but nobilis has 7 different colours so far so a very lucky mix.

I will leave you with a snow picture and see if I can add more later

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 05, 2021, 07:22:43 PM
Nice Herman; luckily there are many sources of lovely Hepaticas that you can access.
Does the maxima x japonica 'Touyama-shigure' has a particularly large flower or is just the way the picture was taken?
Gabriella the flower has a diameter of 25 mm. Maybe the flower still becomes  bigger as the plant gets older.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 05, 2021, 07:41:55 PM
We spend a a in the summer house
A bit behind us as it is a bit north and many hepaticas in shade
My mother had mentioned a pink/lavender one that was growing below a conoe in the middle of the lawn.
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Ohelia from Anne much nicer this year. But she is not able to deliver to European Union so an other victim for the Brexit
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Here is a 3 days picture of my heps from Händel. Since then a more red/pink has flowered. He got my business so a winner of Brexit :)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 06, 2021, 12:39:27 PM
Joakim, Ohelia is a nice dark colour, I like it very much:). It is so interesting to observe different shapes and colours of Hepaticas.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 06, 2021, 11:51:38 PM
We spend a a in the summer house
A bit behind us as it is a bit north and many hepaticas in shade
My mother had mentioned a pink/lavender one that was growing below a conoe in the middle of the lawn.
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Ohelia from Anne much nicer this year. But she is not able to deliver to European Union so an other victim for the Brexit
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Here is a 3 days picture of my heps from Händel. Since then a more red/pink has flowered. He got my business so a winner of Brexit :)
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You are lucky to get many different Hepaticas in Europe. 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: hwscot on April 08, 2021, 02:55:50 PM
excuse the late  post, catching up on forum after long absence .. these photos are from late March this year.

I tried some H. nobilis in a large copper pot .. must be about 10 years since I planted this up. The pot is about 60cm diameter and maybe 25cm deep. So long ago that I can't recall much about the mix beyond a large proportion of perlite.

Started with three plants, two have flourished and are covered in flower every year. One has survived but never really grown, and there are now quite a few self-sown. The other plants that seem to thrive together with the hepaticas are L. vernum and a few autumn crocus (pulchellus or speciosus).

With the configuration of the garden, the pot gets two slices of direct sun (when we get sun) .. early morning, and again about midday (as the sun moves round the house). There is some shade in the summer from birches nearby, and a large cherry and a rowan, once they're leafed up, block some of the midday / early afternoon sun.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 08, 2021, 05:37:15 PM
Nice planting Harry :)

Thanks to Maggi that fixed my picture so the post was readable :-*

Lena I like the tone of reddish in ohelia so that is almost purple
I did try to compare it to two other ones that is also dark and the darkest is the one from the summerhouse but it mostly have blue tones.
I have also moved the Hepatica transylvanica supernova from Händel there to compare. Nice colour on the this one
I added the blue can as comparison. In real life more purple tones an all but only Ohelia is purple.

I did try to capture the reddish tones on a Hepatica nobilis pyrineica from Annie with a Hepatica nobilis from Händel and difficult to show the redness even with the red mark on blue can as reference.

Nice markings on the pyrineica even on the old foliage. Also a lot bigger flowers on that one.

They all seem to get good noncontrolled seed sets :)

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 08, 2021, 06:55:55 PM
I don't have any greenhouse and Hepaticas only in the garden. The weather is better now and they started blooming in the garden.
H. nobilis var. pyrenaica
H. transsilvanica "Schwanensee"
H. transsilvanica ”Blue”
H. transsilvanica alba
Hepatica nobilis
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 08, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
more pictures
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 08, 2021, 07:09:23 PM
Two more
H. transsilvanica “Elison Spencer”
H. transsilvanica narrow petal
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 08, 2021, 07:26:52 PM
Great Hepatica's, Kris! They are flowering very well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 09, 2021, 07:15:40 AM
Kris, super Hepaticas! How fast spring has advanced over there. Here it is still snowdrop, Eranthis and early crocus season, with only the earliest H.pubescens flowering. No H.nobilis or any Corydalis flowering yet.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 09, 2021, 02:16:21 PM
Thanks Herman and Leena.
It is strange that in the garden some are flowering way early. But more than half are still dormant.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 09, 2021, 06:16:08 PM
Two more
H. transsilvanica “Elison Spencer”
H. transsilvanica narrow petal

What a joy to see them flowering Kris! Interesting how you caught up with us here in Ontario in such a short time.
H. transsilvanica is only now at full flowering :) (it seems my seedlings came from the one you call 'narrow petals' - I like it a lot because it has colored anthers/filaments).

H. acutiloba is also starting to flower but no good pictures yet.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 12, 2021, 07:31:17 PM
As a result of the very warm weather, H. acutiloba is flowering on the same time with H. americana this year. Weather has returned to more seasonal temp. now and is raining hard.
Few pictures with H. acutiloba from the garden of last week.

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H. acutiloba fo. rosea in various shades
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And one I have named H. acutiloba 'Pearl'
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 12, 2021, 08:03:00 PM
Very nice and a lot of flowers, Gabriela!

Here Hepaticas are slowly opening more, but still only H.pubescens is fully flowering. They have clumped up nicely (two are not doing so well, others are very good). I am so glad it has survived so well here (now for two winters). H.nobilis is almost opening in sunny spots and H.japonica shows colour.
Pictures of two of my H.japonica ex Hohobeni plants today  :): Thank you Carsten!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 12, 2021, 10:32:13 PM
Gabriela and Leena, nice Hepatica's!
Beautiful flowers, here the Hepatica season is almost gone, seeds are growing and will soon be ready for sowing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 13, 2021, 12:10:18 AM
Nice pictures Leena and Gabriela. There is a set back in temperature and windy outside. Snowing yesterday. The weather will be better after 3 days. All the hepatica flowers are suffering with snow and wind.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 14, 2021, 11:51:04 PM
Very nice and a lot of flowers, Gabriela!

Here Hepaticas are slowly opening more, but still only H.pubescens is fully flowering. They have clumped up nicely (two are not doing so well, others are very good). I am so glad it has survived so well here (now for two winters). H.nobilis is almost opening in sunny spots and H.japonica shows colour.
Pictures of two of my H.japonica ex Hohobeni plants today  :): Thank you Carsten!
Cool weather is perfect for a long Hepatica flowering Leena! Here, after a too warm period and torrential rains quite a few flowers have been fading fast.
Catching back with few more H. acutiloba from last week, in the wild this time:
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 15, 2021, 07:41:38 AM
So lovely views from the woods. And that multipetal form is really nice!
This spring seems to be a good one for spring flowers, and though there have been freezing nights (last night -4), days have been now sunny and +10 or even more, which is enough for snowdrops and other plants to open their flowers. And for first bees and butterflies. :)
First H.hepaticas are opening, and first of the H.japonica to open fully is 'Hakurin'. It is perfect this spring!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 15, 2021, 08:33:04 AM
Gabriela and Leena, it is a pleasure to see your Hepatica's. Thanks a lot.
I have the impression that fewer people are posting photos of Hepatica's than last year.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on April 15, 2021, 09:16:10 AM
Very nice plants, Leena and Gabriela! Good to see yours flowering (and yours, Kris!) while here the season came to an end.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 15, 2021, 11:27:18 PM
So lovely views from the woods. And that multipetal form is really nice!
This spring seems to be a good one for spring flowers, and though there have been freezing nights (last night -4), days have been now sunny and +10 or even more, which is enough for snowdrops and other plants to open their flowers. And for first bees and butterflies. :)
First H.hepaticas are opening, and first of the H.japonica to open fully is 'Hakurin'. It is perfect this spring!

Hakurin does look like the perfect Hepatica Leena :)

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 15, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
Gabriela and Leena, it is a pleasure to see your Hepatica's. Thanks a lot.
I have the impression that fewer people are posting photos of Hepatica's than last year.

I think is just the same Herman. There are always more pictures from the potted collections early in the spring, then fewer from people growing them in the ground or from the wild.

It is more difficult to take good pictures with plants growing in the ground, even in the garden. Too much sun, too cloudy, or too much rain....
In the woods is even more complicated, being there at the right time when the flowers open and in the right day. I take many more pictures just for my records but they are not 'to show' quality.
Here's one 'wet' H. americana from the garden :) You almost feel sorry for it!
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One blue H. acutiloba wasn't too bad, but a pink one I wanted to take a photo was too splashed with soil.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 16, 2021, 07:46:57 AM
I think is just the same Herman. There are always more pictures from the potted collections early in the spring, then fewer from people growing them in the ground or from the wild.

It is more difficult to take good pictures with plants growing in the ground, even in the garden. Too much sun, too cloudy, or too much rain....
In the woods is even more complicated, being there at the right time when the flowers open and in the right day. I take many more pictures just for my records but they are not 'to show' quality.
Here's one 'wet' H. americana from the garden :) You almost feel sorry for it!
One blue H. acutiloba wasn't too bad, but a pink one I wanted to take a photo was too splashed with soil.
Gabriela, your americana has a lot of hairs! Indeed it is more difficult to take pictures in the garden and the plants have damage of the weather or slugs. But they are still lovely. I also think more and more people are using other ways like facebook, Instagram, flickr ...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on April 16, 2021, 11:51:49 AM
Gabriela, your americana has a lot of hairs! Indeed it is more difficult to take pictures in the garden and the plants have damage of the weather or slugs. But they are still lovely. I also think more and more people are using other ways like facebook, Instagram, flickr ...
I am sure you are  correct, Herman, these  are the  "fashionable" places  right  now  - but  I am happy  that this Forum still has faithful members who support  it, and  contribute their experience  to this place - providing knowledge to any  who come to learn, as well as  pretty  pictures !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on April 16, 2021, 02:04:28 PM
From Dimitri Zubov -

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Hepatica nobilis, Kiev Region, Ukraine
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 16, 2021, 07:02:08 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Alba Plena' found in Borgholm is still flowering.

Hepatica acutiloba 'Louise Koehler' is starting.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 16, 2021, 09:16:54 PM
Nice ones Herman and lovely foliage on Louise Koehler.

A question to you all!
How different are the different alba plena?

I see "Irish", "Stockholm" and "Borgholm" / "Öland" form. I have seen nobilis alba plena for sale and have been tempted but as it has not been named I have hesitated.
Anyone know of a site that can show differences?

Normal Hepatica Flowers change a bit in colour with sun/ shade and during their maturity. Same with size of flowers between same plant so I wonder how different they are.

I am also interested to know how to see a difference between nobilis and japonica as some nobilis doubles are sometimes offered for high prizes. I am afraid that someone dishonest has bought a japonica and sell it for 3 times higher as nobilis and I for sure do not like to spend money for plants that might be fakes and have a risk of not being fully hard for me.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 17, 2021, 12:28:23 AM
Gorgeous H. nobilis from Ukraine!

Gabriela, your americana has a lot of hairs! Indeed it is more difficult to take pictures in the garden and the plants have damage of the weather or slugs. But they are still lovely. I also think more and more people are using other ways like facebook, Instagram, flickr ...

All H. americana from my region are quite 'hairy' :) Herman. They are more noticeable when the plants are wet I suppose.

'Louise Koehler' is such a beauty! So interesting to see that it flowers after the new foliage has grown. All others H. acutiloba are flowering before the new foliage appears.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 17, 2021, 07:31:48 AM
It is more difficult to take good pictures with plants growing in the ground, even in the garden. Too much sun, too cloudy, or too much rain....

H.americana from your seeds has started to flower also here.  :) They have much shorter flower stems than my native H.nobilis, I remember this was also last year. Flowers are different shade of blue and very nice.
Is it typical of them to be shorter plants than H.nobilis? Short flower stems make taking pictures very difficult, and then there is sun to consider of flowers are looking in the wrong way or something else to make taking pictures difficult.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 17, 2021, 07:36:17 AM
I am also interested to know how to see a difference between nobilis and japonica as some nobilis doubles are sometimes offered for high prizes. I am afraid that someone dishonest has bought a japonica and sell it for 3 times higher as nobilis and I for sure do not like to spend money for plants that might be fakes and have a risk of not being fully hard for me.

I don't know the answer to your question about the differences, but I think the best way is to buy only from a known reputable seller. It is the same with snowdrops when the differences may be very small, and the temptation to sell plants with wrong names may be high, so buying from someone known to have good reputation (even if the price is higher) is  only way to be sure to get the right plant.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 17, 2021, 08:13:13 AM
There are some native H.nobilis growing in our property, these are blue or pink, but no doubles (nor have I yet found any double here in the forest), but some may have some extra petals.
Pinks fade to almost white in some plants, while some are stronger pink.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 17, 2021, 08:17:19 AM
I have grown H.nobilis 'Selma' from Dryad bulb seeds, and they are very nice. They now grow close to other H.nobilis and I was wondering if they come true from seeds when bees do the pollinating?
Blue native H.nobilis and a pink one which starts flowering with stronger colour and fades to almost white. Leaves have turned very dark in the spring because of frosts maybe. New leaves are normal green.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 17, 2021, 08:21:07 AM
Gorgeous H. nobilis from Ukraine!

All H. americana from my region are quite 'hairy' :) Herman. They are more noticeable when the plants are wet I suppose.

'Louise Koehler' is such a beauty! So interesting to see that it flowers after the new foliage has grown. All others H. acutiloba are flowering before the new foliage appears.
Gabriela, 'Louise Koehler' is also always flowering later than my other acutiloba's.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 17, 2021, 08:31:13 AM
I have grown H.nobilis 'Selma' from Dryad bulb seeds, and they are very nice. They now grow close to other H.nobilis and I was wondering if they come true from seeds when bees do the pollinating?
Blue native H.nobilis and a pink one which starts flowering with stronger colour and fades to almost white. Leaves have turned very dark in the spring because of frosts maybe. New leaves are normal green.

Leena nice pictures of Hepatica!

Leena, when you see all the pictures from 'Selma' than there is a difference in color. But what is the reason: seed raised or the light when taking the picture. I know that H. nobilis 'Rubra' in our garden is self sowing and it is always the same color.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 17, 2021, 08:45:49 AM
Herman, you are right that there is a difference if a picture is taken in sun or in shade. My 'Selma' are all the same salmon kind of colour, different than our native pinks.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 17, 2021, 05:40:39 PM
Nice mix of colours and all native Lena? Or have the ants carried the seeds from Your garden? Do you scatter the seeds from these wild plants to spread more than the ants do?

We have only blue and lavender growing native here and from our garden in the cottage, it is following ants to the overgrown meadows that has become a forest, all with similar blue colours. The ants also spread it around in the garden :) At least in the cottage house that is a bit wild. In the part of the woods I have seen here in Scania it is all blue hepaticas, but I know of other places that has more colours and doubles are named from there. Never seen pink or whites in the forests only shades of blue and lavender and some with a bit more petals but not really multipetala.

In my own garden there are ants but so far not seen any plants spreading to the hedges around here, but time will tell. Only had them here for a year or so. Might even scatter some seeds in the hedges here as it is a native plant :)

Lena regarding Selma I think that the Salmon/ apricot is the special with Selma and it seems fairly similar in colour. To me there is a bit yellow in the pink to get that colour and last year I was sure it had a tint of yellow to it, but this year I am not so sure. So like Herman says there might be a bit of variation of the colours even if they still are quite unique and standing out from other pinks. On pictures it even more difficult to say.
Got it from same source as You but as a plant.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 17, 2021, 06:08:05 PM
H.americana from your seeds has started to flower also here.  :) They have much shorter flower stems than my native H.nobilis, I remember this was also last year. Flowers are different shade of blue and very nice.
Is it typical of them to be shorter plants than H.nobilis? Short flower stems make taking pictures very difficult, and then there is sun to consider of flowers are looking in the wrong way or something else to make taking pictures difficult.

Glad to hear Leena :) I only have very few nobilis in my garden and they don't seem taller than most americana plants. There is variation in the wild but I wouldn't say that most are very small.
Young plants often may look a bit smaller before they clump up. I noticed it with all species I grew from seeds.

There are some native H.nobilis growing in our property, these are blue or pink, but no doubles (nor have I yet found any double here in the forest), but some may have some extra petals.
Pinks fade to almost white in some plants, while some are stronger pink.

The look in a natural setting is very appealing :) Same goes for americana, no doubles, on rare occasions extra petals and also the pinks may fade to almost white (on few occasions even blues can fade to lighter colors or vary depending on the temp.).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 17, 2021, 06:11:44 PM
Few H. americana from SW Ontario woods.
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A seedling from a different location; most often they like to establish in moss covered boulders (where possible).

Trying again (it seems that problems with uploading still persist; maybe also a reason some people give up on posting?)
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The seedling:
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And some pictures were repeated now  :-\
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 17, 2021, 08:55:28 PM
Wow Gabriela!
Never seen a hepatica on top of a boulder.
I have Seen them by the stems of trees and one in a tree stump but never on boulders. Is it high moisture there in summers to have moss or how does it survive the summers?

Lovely photos and nice with the blue and white one(s)- together

Also very nice foliage on some of them. A bit like the nobilis pyrinecia strain?

Seems some of my plants also will get nice foliage, at least on the newly developed foliage.
I will share when they are open. Getting more and more happy with my buying of the nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 18, 2021, 07:22:54 AM
Nice mix of colours and all native Lena? Or have the ants carried the seeds from Your garden? Do you scatter the seeds from these wild plants to spread more than the ants do?

These were all native and grown at that spot at least for 20 years, but deer like to eat them so they have never gotten a chance to build up more. Always some have managed to set seeds and spread that way. Two years ago we put up a fence around the garden and part of those native Hepaticas are now inside the fence and thus safe from deer. :)
Ants have done the seed sowing.

Gabriela, very nice H.americana in the wild! And they don't seem short-stemmed, my plants are maybe just too young.
Here are couple of pictures of them, these are all from your seeds. I especially like the blue ones, and it seems to be a different shade of blue than in my native H.nobilis.
One is almost white, just a hint of pink in the flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 18, 2021, 07:30:57 AM
The first one is a native H.nobilis, with long and narrow petals.
The second plant I have bought from Gunhild Poulsen in 2018, it is a seedling Hepatica nobilis 106N x Ederka 91N, so it has double genes in it. It's flowers are the usual blue, but nice shape and bigger than my native plants. Almost as big flowers as in H. x schlyteri.
Then one nice H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni' and the last one is H.japonica 'Shirayuki', both growing really well. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 18, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Few H. americana from SW Ontario woods.
seedling from a different location; most often they like to establish in moss covered boulders (where possible).

Trying again (it seems that problems with uploading still persist; maybe also a reason some people give up on posting?)
Gabriela, beautiful pictures! I wonder if there is a difference in the flower between nobilis and americana. The connection in nobilis between the filament and anther is mostly between pink and red. On Leena's pictures they seem to be more yellow for americana. On your pictures I don't know what the color is.
Gabriela, it is a pity that you never find any double.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 18, 2021, 08:44:06 AM
The first one is a native H.nobilis, with long and narrow petals.
The second plant I have bought from Gunhild Poulsen in 2018, it is a seedling Hepatica nobilis 106N x Ederka 91N, so it has double genes in it. It's flowers are the usual blue, but nice shape and bigger than my native plants. Almost as big flowers as in H. x schlyteri.
Then one nice H.pubescens ex 'Hohobeni' and the last one is H.japonica 'Shirayuki', both growing really well. :)
Leena, have you had already sown seeds from your Hepatica nobilis 106N x Ederka 91N? Normally double genes should come back.
Your ex Hohobeni is indeed very nice, the color is very striking.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 18, 2021, 03:46:07 PM
Beautiful hepaticas Leena and Gabriela. More hepaticas have started flowering. The native ones are still in bud. Some pictures from the garden
Hepatica nobilis alba
Hepatica nobilis pink
Hepatica nobilis rubra plena
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 18, 2021, 03:54:45 PM
I have a Hepatica which I lost label. It looks like the  special blue one shown by Leena got from Gunhild Poulson.
Mine has only six petals instead of seven as in her hepatica
I also got seeds from Gunhild Poulson some years ago.
Here is the picture attached
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 18, 2021, 04:38:21 PM
Beautiful hepaticas Leena and Gabriela. More hepaticas have started flowering. The native ones are still in bud. Some pictures from the garden
Hepatica nobilis alba
Hepatica nobilis pink
Hepatica nobilis rubra plena
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
Beautiful Hepatica's Kris!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 18, 2021, 04:43:10 PM
I have a Hepatica which I lost label. It looks like the  special blue one shown by Leena got from Gunhild Poulson.
Mine has only six petals instead of seven as in her hepatica
I also got seeds from Gunhild Poulson some years ago.
Here is the picture attached
Kris, it is indeed a special blue!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 18, 2021, 07:52:39 PM
Wow Gabriela!
Never seen a hepatica on top of a boulder.
I have Seen them by the stems of trees and one in a tree stump but never on boulders. Is it high moisture there in summers to have moss or how does it survive the summers?

In places where such moss covered boulders exists Joakim, there are often young seedlings established on top. There is no high moisture, regular rain seasons in spring and fall and the summers are most often very dry. But still the moss offers a good place for the start of the seeds.
Probably they perish later on, because I've never seen larger clumps developing.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 18, 2021, 07:58:51 PM
Gabriela, very nice H.americana in the wild! And they don't seem short-stemmed, my plants are maybe just too young.
Here are couple of pictures of them, these are all from your seeds. I especially like the blue ones, and it seems to be a different shade of blue than in my native H.nobilis.
One is almost white, just a hint of pink in the flower.

Looking good :)  nice to have a wide range of colors.
In the populations where I collect most there are some whites with pink flares, your seedlings may be a descendant. Last week I was happy to re-found again a large clump I like (somehow I couldn't find it again in the last 2 years! - too little time and too much to see and later on the woodland floor changes so much!).

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A seedling nearby.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 18, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Herman - the color for the connective in H. americana I would say is in shades of greenish/whitish, most of the time. In any case, not other colors.

Maybe you can see it this americana 'baby' from my garden.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 18, 2021, 08:06:09 PM
Re - double H. americana, I don't really care finding such; as I mentioned before I'm not a fan of double flowers, I admire them but that's all. On the other hand I like a lot the multipetals or other similar forms that may appear.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 18, 2021, 08:07:52 PM
Beautiful Kris. All my H. nobilis var. pyrenaica are in blue shades.
It seems your spring is getting better while we, in Ontario, are reversing back to winter starting Monday.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Rick R. on April 19, 2021, 12:01:09 AM
The native ones are still in bud.
Oh thank goodness!  I was wondering how yours could be so far ahead of mine!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 19, 2021, 12:01:37 AM
Gabriela Saskatoon temperature is cold now. The prediction is more colder temperature for the next two days.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 19, 2021, 12:11:58 AM
Oh thank goodness!  I was wondering how yours could be so far ahead o mine!
Rick some of them has already stated flowering. I am waiting to take pictures once most of the buds opened. My friends garden which gets southern sun has the native ones fully opened. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Rick R. on April 19, 2021, 01:48:19 AM
My most floriferous H. americana, the most advanced in the yard and ready to pop with some sun, I'd say.  (Wild acutiloba ones are only buds.)  This one is from Minnesota/Ontario border wild seed.  A rabbit ate most of the foliage.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on April 19, 2021, 07:44:43 AM
Nice H. americana, Gabriela! They look very delicate looking.

My most floriferous H. americana, the most advanced in the yard and ready to pop with some sun, I'd say.  (Wild acutiloba ones are only buds.)  This one is from Minnesota/Ontario border wild seed.  A rabbit ate most of the foliage.

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Rick, It was lucky that the rabbit ate only the old foliage and not the flowers. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 19, 2021, 10:28:12 AM
Leena, have you had already sown seeds from your Hepatica nobilis 106N x Ederka 91N? Normally double genes should come back.

Herman, I have five seedlings from it from last year, and I hope to have more seeds this year. I'm hoping some will be double, but of course the pollinating was done by bees and as there are so many native H.nobilis, it is more likely that the outcome is single.

I have a Hepatica which I lost label. It looks like the  special blue one shown by Leena got from Gunhild Poulson.
Mine has only six petals instead of seven as in her hepatica
I also got seeds from Gunhild Poulson some years ago.

Tha flower shape is similar to my plant. Possibly they share the same ancestor. :)

Kris, you have such nice clumps of hepaticas! Beautiful.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 19, 2021, 10:32:26 AM
In the populations where I collect most there are some whites with pink flares, your seedlings may be a descendant.

Those look very similar. Mine were sown in 2016, so maybe that year you got seeds from those plants. :)

Rick, that is a very floriferous plant!  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 19, 2021, 10:51:19 AM
Herman, I have five seedlings from it from last year, and I hope to have more seeds this year. I'm hoping some will be double, but of course the pollinating was done by bees and as there are so many native H.nobilis, it is more likely that the outcome is single.

Leena, you should make an effort for handpollination!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 19, 2021, 10:59:26 AM
Herman - the color for the connective in H. americana I would say is in shades of greenish/whitish, most of the time. In any case, not other colors.
Maybe you can see it this americana 'baby' from my garden.
Gabriela, so if the connective is pink but the leaves look like the one from americana. Should I conclude that another nobilis is involved? Or is a pink H. americana different.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 19, 2021, 06:29:58 PM
Leena, you should make an effort for handpollination!

I know  :), but I am rubbish at pollinating so I have given it up. I have tried it with peonies with zero results (with known fertile plants), and they are big plants with which it should be much easier to see when they are ready to accept pollen than with smaller plants, so for me it is just better to enjoy the plants and let bees do pollinating and then sow seeds and hope for the best:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 20, 2021, 08:06:49 AM
Hepatica nobilis 'Alba', grown from seeds and a nice clump (there may be more than one seedling in this, I should divide it).
More pictures of H.americana from Gabriela's seeds, first a better picture of the white one.
What I love in these blue H.americana is that there seems to be a paler rim to the flowers, picotee-like, which I have never seen in our native hepaticas.
The last picture is 'Bavarian Blue' planted last spring, doing well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 20, 2021, 08:54:25 AM
Leena, very nice Hepatica’s. Big clumps are always more beautiful.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: johnw on April 20, 2021, 11:14:29 PM
A cross by former Haligonian Joe Harvey, it certainly is floriferous for a youngster. Tge cross is H. nobilis dark blue x nobilis good pink.

johnw
15c @ 7:14 AST
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 20, 2021, 11:15:44 PM
My most floriferous H. americana, the most advanced in the yard and ready to pop with some sun, I'd say.  (Wild acutiloba ones are only buds.)  This one is from Minnesota/Ontario border wild seed.  A rabbit ate most of the foliage.

Interesting Rick. In this part of Ontario usually H . acutiloba flowers about one week earlier than H. americana (most years).
The rabbits may also eat the flowers after they get the taste for Hepaticas :(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 20, 2021, 11:17:27 PM
A cross by former Haligonian Joe Harvey, it certainly is floriferous for a youngster. Tge cross is H. nobilis dark blue x nobilis good pink.
johnw
15c @ 7:14 AST

Gorgeous John, why do you keep it in pots?
15C ! I envy you, we are getting ready for the snow here.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 20, 2021, 11:20:12 PM
Gabriela, so if the connective is pink but the leaves look like the one from americana. Should I conclude that another nobilis is involved? Or is a pink H. americana different.

Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say Herman.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 20, 2021, 11:25:33 PM
Hepatica nobilis 'Alba', grown from seeds and a nice clump (there may be more than one seedling in this, I should divide it).
More pictures of H.americana from Gabriela's seeds, first a better picture of the white one.
What I love in these blue H.americana is that there seems to be a paler rim to the flowers, picotee-like, which I have never seen in our native hepaticas.
The last picture is 'Bavarian Blue' planted last spring, doing well.


All beautiful Leena :)
The picotee blue should be from what I call H. americana #1. I collected seeds from it from the beginning and I describe it the same.There are other smaller plants in the area with the same feature but I like to collect from individual clumps (when possible).
It is indeed a very nice feature, especially for the blue flowered plants.

Few last pictures probably, at least from the wild, some flowers are already fading plus that we'll have winter-like weather till Friday.
The one I call H. americana bicolor, toward the end of flowering
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A young cutie.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Rick R. on April 21, 2021, 02:16:41 AM
Interesting Rick. In this part of Ontario usually H . acutiloba flowers about one week earlier than H. americana (most years).
this H. americana  in the yard is quite exposed under a Picea asperata, and where the snow melts quite early.  I am pretty sure it is blooming earlier than in the forests here.  H. acutiloba is much more common this far south, and there aren't any americana nearby that I could check.  But I think your observation would hold true down here, too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 21, 2021, 07:46:02 AM
Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say Herman.
Gabriela, The Hepatica's I have with the name Hepatica americana 'Rosea', there the connectives are pink, but the leaves look like Hepatica americana. So I wonder if it is indeed americana or it is a crossing with nobilis.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 21, 2021, 06:23:50 PM
this H. americana  in the yard is quite exposed under a Picea asperata, and where the snow melts quite early.  I am pretty sure it is blooming earlier than in the forests here.  H. acutiloba is much more common this far south, and there aren't any americana nearby that I could check.  But I think your observation would hold true down here, too.

True that more sun exposure makes a big difference. I actually moved one H. americana which would start to flower unusual early because of too much sun (a nearby Carya provides shade later but it takes its time to leaf out in the spring).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 21, 2021, 06:28:46 PM
Gabriela, The Hepatica's I have with the name Hepatica americana 'Rosea', there the connectives are pink, but the leaves look like Hepatica americana. So I wonder if it is indeed americana or it is a crossing with nobilis.

I understand now. Regarding this H. americana 'Rosea' - I didn't want to say anything, but I always thought it is a hybrid (and I've seen others people pictures with it).
Being on the market already I'm sure the name won't be changed.
I don't think someone can distinguish H. americana from H. nobilis after the foliage, it is a character allowing for a lot of variation in size/shape/hairness.

Here's one more close-up with a H. americana flower
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 21, 2021, 07:25:32 PM
The picotee blue should be from what I call H. americana #1. I collected seeds from it from the beginning and I describe it the same.There are other smaller plants in the area with the same feature but I like to collect from individual clumps (when possible).
It is indeed a very nice feature, especially for the blue flowered plants.

Thank you Gabriela, they are very nice!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 21, 2021, 07:29:57 PM
I got a small piece of this H.transsylvanica two years ago from a friend who had bought it 15 years ago from Stockholm botaniska garden without any other name.
It is very nice. It may be a nameless seedling, but has anyone seen a H.trannsylvanica like this?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: johnw on April 21, 2021, 08:25:43 PM
"Gorgeous John, why do you keep it in pots?"

Gabriela - One of the hazards of visiing gardner friends in BC in late January.  You come home with potted material already in growth, not suitable for planting here till April.  We'll propagate this one and then plant it out next year.

john
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on April 22, 2021, 01:58:07 AM
Nice Hepatica pictures Every one.
Here is one Hepatica acutiloba with very dark flower. Gabriela do you come across this colour in nature? The Picture is from my friends garden. The leaf is pretty too. I have a seedling with similar colour flower but plain leaf.

The Hepatica nobilis #75 is from Gunhild Poulsons seed. Very intense pink flower and a short plant.

3rd is the Hepatica acutiloba pale pink colour.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on April 22, 2021, 08:48:31 AM
I got a small piece of this H.transsylvanica two years ago from a friend who had bought it 15 years ago from Stockholm botaniska garden without any other name.
It is very nice. It may be a nameless seedling, but has anyone seen a H.trannsylvanica like this?
Very beautiful Leena!! A special treasure. It reminds me of 'Elison Spencer'.
I think it exsist one full filled transsylvanica. The name is 'Barbarossa'. I have this plant, but it hasn`t flowered untill now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 22, 2021, 09:16:49 AM
I understand now. Regarding this H. americana 'Rosea' - I didn't want to say anything, but I always thought it is a hybrid (and I've seen others people pictures with it).
Being on the market already I'm sure the name won't be changed.
I don't think someone can distinguish H. americana from H. nobilis after the foliage, it is a character allowing for a lot of variation in size/shape/hairness.

Here's one more close-up with a H. americana flower
Thank you Gabriela. I will change the name in Hepatica nobilis 'Rosea' for the future. So I need to look after the real Hepatica americana 'Rosea'.
The same confusion is sometimes with Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica there the connective should be white till yellow. There are also H. nobilis with beautiful marbled leaves but then with pink connective, which have been given the name pyrenaica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 22, 2021, 09:23:11 AM
I got a small piece of this H.transsylvanica two years ago from a friend who had bought it 15 years ago from Stockholm botaniska garden without any other name.
It is very nice. It may be a nameless seedling, but has anyone seen a H.trannsylvanica like this?
Leena, beautiful H. transsilvanica. Is it originally found in the wild? If you can ever divide it I am surely interested.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 22, 2021, 09:24:55 AM
Nice Hepatica pictures Every one.
Here is one Hepatica acutiloba with very dark flower. Gabriela do you come across this colour in nature? The Picture is from my friends garden. The leaf is pretty too. I have a seedling with similar colour flower but plain leaf.

The Hepatica nobilis #75 is from Gunhild Poulsons seed. Very intense pink flower and a short plant.

3rd is the Hepatica acutiloba pale pink colour.
Kris, thanks for showing your beautiful Hepatica's.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2021, 01:02:24 AM
I got a small piece of this H.transsylvanica two years ago from a friend who had bought it 15 years ago from Stockholm botaniska garden without any other name.
It is very nice. It may be a nameless seedling, but has anyone seen a H.trannsylvanica like this?

What a beauty Leena!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2021, 01:04:37 AM
"Gorgeous John, why do you keep it in pots?"

Gabriela - One of the hazards of visiing gardner friends in BC in late January.  You come home with potted material already in growth, not suitable for planting here till April.  We'll propagate this one and then plant it out next year.
john

Makes sense John. It is not much that can be obtained by dividing one small Hepatica; you can also sow the seeds, who knows what nice surprises await.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2021, 01:10:26 AM
Nice Hepatica pictures Every one.
Here is one Hepatica acutiloba with very dark flower. Gabriela do you come across this colour in nature? The Picture is from my friends garden. The leaf is pretty too. I have a seedling with similar colour flower but plain leaf.

The Hepatica nobilis #75 is from Gunhild Poulsons seed. Very intense pink flower and a short plant.

3rd is the Hepatica acutiloba pale pink colour.

Very nice plants Kris. I did show at the beginning of our season a purple H. acutiloba - a single flower from a young plant. Even blue H. acutiloba are very rare in my region.
I would like to see how the new foliage looks on your specimen; the old leaves don't show very well the acute ends of the lobes.

Many H. acutiloba (just like H. americama) show marbled foliage in late fall/spring but the new foliage is green afterwards. Young  seedlings/plants don't show  this feature right away.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 23, 2021, 01:14:53 AM
Thank you Gabriela. I will change the name in Hepatica nobilis 'Rosea' for the future. So I need to look after the real Hepatica americana 'Rosea'.
The same confusion is sometimes with Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica there the connective should be white till yellow. There are also H. nobilis with beautiful marbled leaves but then with pink connective, which have been given the name pyrenaica.

I suppose there are many missnamed forms of Hepatica Herman. Understandable considering that H. americana, nobilis and nobilis var. japonica are so look-alike.

I am still yet to find a true pink H. americana; there are pink blushed, or pink/white striped here. A pity that other members from US and Canada don't post more picture
with the native species from their regions.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Rick R. on April 23, 2021, 02:10:52 AM
Look what I spied in the lawn today.  I have lots of flowers seeded into the grass, but I never would have expected this in the sunny part of the lawn.  Except now that I think about, there was a small anthill there at one time.  ;D

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 24, 2021, 07:17:10 AM
Very beautiful Leena!! A special treasure. It reminds me of 'Elison Spencer'.
I think it exsist one full filled transsylvanica. The name is 'Barbarossa'. I have this plant, but it hasn`t flowered untill now.

Thank you Patrick. :) The person from whom I got the plant has also ES, and she says they are close but not the same. I don't have ES, so I can't say for myself, and now is the first time this plant is flowering for me. I didn't know how special this is is until I saw it in flower this spring, it really is beautiful.

Leena, beautiful H. transsilvanica. Is it originally found in the wild? If you can ever divide it I am surely interested.

Herman, I don't know anything other from it's origin, but probably not from the wild, because it was bought from Sweden though from a Bergianska botanical garden sale).
It seems to be slow to increase (a small piece I got took two years to flower), but when it grows for some more years I will try to divide it (also to have it growing in two places in case something happens to it in one spot):).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 24, 2021, 07:18:39 AM
Look what I spied in the lawn today.  I have lots of flowers seeded into the grass, but I never would have expected this in the sunny part of the lawn.  Except now that I think about, there was a small anthill there at one time.  ;D

This is the best, to find self sown seedlings in surprising places, and it is what I hope will happen also here in time. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 24, 2021, 07:21:36 AM
Some pictures of my few double H.nobilis.
'Rubra Plena', 'Rote Glut' and Mussel (with two dots above u, but I don't know how to make them with my computer).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 24, 2021, 09:16:32 AM
Leena, your Hepatica's are nicely upright!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 24, 2021, 03:10:09 PM
Lovely Hepaticas Lena
I think the Hepatica you got from Stockholm is what is known as Elison Spences but it can actually be more than one clone that looks like that.
The photos from internet on ES give a bit mixed sight and from my memories from last year when mine flowered it change colour and shape quite a bit so if your friend has it in slightly different conditions it may look different between the plants.

I got surprised last year when I saw the darker colour that ES has initially. It tends to fade to the more common paler transsylvanica blue.
ES seem to grow quite well as it is in trade here in Sweden but I see nothing different that looks similar, but if your plant is a bit slower to grow then it might be rare and not for sale as often or even at wrong name as ES.

A nice plant is a nice plant regardless of name I say :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 24, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
I see some trace of life in the pots I have sown hepatica seeds but I am not sure what it is


I also wonder if my Hepatica transsylvanica is placed too deep as it is later than my nobilis and I see no "bud" just the foliage poking up through the ground.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on April 25, 2021, 03:06:29 AM
Gabriela, so if the connective is pink but the leaves look like the one from americana. Should I conclude that another nobilis is involved? Or is a pink H. americana different.
I am jumping in late here, but I agree that the pink connectives imply a crossing with nobilis (or at least not a pure H. americana). The connectives in pure americana should be white or greenish/yellowish. I have received seeds of several plants purported to be pink americana, but all the resulting flowers ended up with these pink connectives which mean that they are likely from hybrid plants. The problem is that these plants are becoming more common in the trade listed as americana, and the fact that the foliage is very similar makes them hard to identify without seeing the flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 25, 2021, 07:44:33 AM
I am jumping in late here, but I agree that the pink connectives imply a crossing with nobilis (or at least not a pure H. americana). The connectives in pure americana should be white or greenish/yellowish. I have received seeds of several plants purported to be pink americana, but all the resulting flowers ended up with these pink connectives which mean that they are likely from hybrid plants. The problem is that these plants are becoming more common in the trade listed as americana, and the fact that the foliage is very similar makes them hard to identify without seeing the flower.
Thank you Peppa!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 25, 2021, 08:23:04 AM
Leena, your Hepatica's are nicely upright!

Thank you Herman. I didn't think they could be otherwise. :)

Lovely Hepaticas Lena
I think the Hepatica you got from Stockholm is what is known as Elison Spences but it can actually be more than one clone that looks like that.
The photos from internet on ES give a bit mixed sight and from my memories from last year when mine flowered it change colour and shape quite a bit so if your friend has it in slightly different conditions it may look different between the plants.

I got surprised last year when I saw the darker colour that ES has initially. It tends to fade to the more common paler transsylvanica blue.
ES seem to grow quite well as it is in trade here in Sweden but I see nothing different that looks similar, but if your plant is a bit slower to grow then it might be rare and not sore sale as often or even as wrong name as ES.

A nice plant is a nice plant regardless of name I say :)

Thank you Joakim, you maybe right and you know what has been for sale in Sweden. :)

Your seedlings are Hepaticas, congratulations.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 25, 2021, 07:40:18 PM
Leena you better get a ES too to confirm it :)

There are plants like Konny Greenfield that looks very similar to ES but I have not seen it for sale in Sweden.
I am not an expert on all the hepaticas sold in Sweden so for sure there might be special ones available sometimes looking similar too ES.

Thanks for confirming that what is growing is some Hepatica seedlings. Nice to have them on the way :)
There have been good seed sets on some plants but snow and hail has ended the season for the plants in pots but the ones in the garden are still blooming. So I will soon start to put collectors to make sure the ants do not steal my seeds


Just a question to the pink americana discussion
Could the pink colour also influence the colour of the connectives?
Anyone claiming to have pink americanas coming from the wild?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 25, 2021, 08:12:04 PM
I see some trace of life in the pots I have sown hepatica seeds but I am not sure what it is

I also wonder if my Hepatica transsylvanica is placed too deep as it is later than my nobilis and I see no "bud" just the foliage poking up through the ground.

Yes Joakim, next year you will have Hepatica seedlings to transplant.
It is possible you planted H. t. too deep, it happens. You can use a small digging tool to lift it up a bit, without removing it from the ground.

Re H. americana - the flower color has nothing to do with that of the connectives.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 25, 2021, 10:59:54 PM
Thanks for the input Gabriela!
Any advice on the seedlings?
It has southern exposure.
At the moment it gets afternoon sun the rest of the day it is shaded by a hedge.
Does it need more shade?

I will try to lift the transsylvanicas carefully

Thanks for the clarification on the pink americanas
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 26, 2021, 10:01:25 AM
Thanks for the input Gabriela!
Any advice on the seedlings?
It has southern exposure.
At the moment it gets afternoon sun the rest of the day it is shaded by a hedge.
Does it need more shade?

I will try to lift the transsylvanicas carefully

Thanks for the clarification on the pink americanas
Joakim, I would give the seedlings the morning sun or the late afternoon, sunburn damage happens quickly.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 26, 2021, 06:48:07 PM
Joakim - like Herman said, prepare a space with only morning sun for the seedlings; in early spring is not that bad but as we advanced towards the summer the sun becomes
too strong for them.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on April 28, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
Hepatica nobilis is still in flower in the mountains. And what a find!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on April 28, 2021, 08:23:46 PM
Carsten, congratulation!!  :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 28, 2021, 08:29:34 PM
Hepatica nobilis is still in flower in the mountains. And what a find!
Wow Carsten, this are real treasures! Congratulations on your new finds.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on April 28, 2021, 10:03:54 PM
Nice findlings! Congratulation to them and to a nice trip(s)

Did You see both on the same trip in the same area? There seem to be at least more single white and blue there so a very nice area to visit.

Do the blue double have a white eye or is it an illusion on the photo? Interesting to see how the foliage will look like later if you will have the chance to share it too

Interesting to see anemone nemorosa and hepatica nobilis in the same place at the same time. Here nemorosa starts when nobilis is almost over and for sure quite far in foliage. Or is it blue nemorosa?

Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gunilla on April 28, 2021, 10:40:17 PM
Hepatica nobilis is still in flower in the mountains. And what a find!

Congratulation Carsten, I can't believe your luck. You found a double white and a very nice one as well. OK, the others are lovely too, but a double white....wow!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on April 29, 2021, 06:21:33 AM
Hepatica nobilis is still in flower in the mountains. And what a find!
What a wonderful find and you have extremely good luck! 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 29, 2021, 08:16:07 AM
Carsten, you have such a great gene pool in Hepaticas in the mountains, and a good eye to spot them:).

Here it has been cloudy and cold, the first picture is from earlier.
It is H.transsilvanica or H. x media (what is the difference in them?). I got it as H.crenatiloba, but it is not that. I posted a picture of this plant last year as H.crenatiloba, but later when the new leaves came, found out that it is not it. Very nice plant still.
In the second picture these are H.japonica I have grown from seeds, the maiden form is nice.
Third is bicolour H.nobilis (not so good picture because of the weather)
And in the last one H.japonica 'Shirayuki', still flowering so well:).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on April 29, 2021, 09:37:16 AM
Thanks to all. The double white was actually not my find but I have been succsessful, too. ;-)
@Joakim: It was on the same trip, an area with blue and some white ones, only very few rose types.
The foliage does not differ to the single types but the plants have a broad range of shapes. Often the flowers are quite weak with just a single bud. So you can't judge the plant by this single flower. Probably the flower is even better if cultivated with care.
Anemone nemorosa and Hepatica nobilis are overlapping a bit in bloom. In the mountains the season is a bit shorter as they start flowering right after the snow is melting (now) and normally it is already getting quite warm in May. So they mostly flower togeher.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 29, 2021, 11:21:54 AM
Carsten, you have such a great gene pool in Hepaticas in the mountains, and a good eye to spot them:).

Here it has been cloudy and cold, the first picture is from earlier.
It is H.transsilvanica or H. x media (what is the difference in them?). I got it as H.crenatiloba, but it is not that. I posted a picture of this plant last year as H.crenatiloba, but later when the new leaves came, found out that it is not it. Very nice plant still.
In the second picture these are H.japonica I have grown from seeds, the maiden form is nice.
Third is bicolour H.nobilis (not so good picture because of the weather)
And in the last one H.japonica 'Shirayuki', still flowering so well:).
Leena, the question what is the difference between transsilvanica and x media is very interesting. Maybe we can discuss it here. I found a picture from Jürgen Peters about leaves.
- At the moment I would say transsilvanica has creeping rhizomes and x media
  not.
- H. x media is generally sterile and is more clumping like nobilis.
- The shape of the leaves (incisions) is more transsilvanica but the leaves are
   more leathery as nobilis. Total leave from H. x media is more rounded than
   transsilvanica.
- Flowers larger than nobilis.

So now I am waiting for other answers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carolyn on April 29, 2021, 01:16:42 PM
That’s a very useful leaf comparison picture, Herman. Thanks!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 29, 2021, 05:51:59 PM
Thank you Herman, that is very useful picture.
I will take a picture of the leaves of my nameless plant later. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 29, 2021, 07:17:17 PM
Hepatica nobilis is still in flower in the mountains. And what a find!

Indeed, what good luck Carsten! They somehow look even more beautiful in the wild than in all the pictures with the potted plants.
I've seen quite few others pictures with wild H. nobilis blue but not white, so that's a special one :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 29, 2021, 07:24:22 PM
Leena, the question what is the difference between transsilvanica and x media is very interesting. Maybe we can discuss it here. I found a picture from Jürgen Peters about leaves.
- At the moment I would say transsilvanica has creeping rhizomes and x media
  not.
- H. x media is generally sterile and is more clumping like nobilis.
- The shape of the leaves (incisions) is more transsilvanica but the leaves are
   more leathery as nobilis. Total leave from H. x media is more rounded than
   transsilvanica.
- Flowers larger than nobilis.

So now I am waiting for other answers.

That's a good summary Herman.
I have one older clump of H. x media in the garden (probably 'Buis') and indeed it remained in a clump and is sterile for sure.
The lobes seem a bit more rounded than in transsilvanica.
Re flower size, I don't have enough plants to be able to generalize.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 29, 2021, 07:34:37 PM
Too warm, cold, warm and cold again made it that some Hepatica growing with more shade are still flowering.
To note that from the same batch of H. nobilis multipetala with blue and pink flowers I previously show, 2 plants flowered purple.
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And one of the most interesting find of this spring: a plant with large, multi-white flowers which have a blue eye when opening.
The foliage falls in between americana and acutiloba, like it happened in other occasions, leading more and more to the belief of hybrids between the 2 species.
But I await to see the new foliage, maybe it is more distinct.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Michelle Swann on April 29, 2021, 08:55:31 PM
Beautiful hepaticas Leena and Gabriela. More hepaticas have started flowering. The native ones are still in bud. Some pictures from the garden
Hepatica nobilis alba
Hepatica nobilis pink
Hepatica nobilis rubra plena
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica
  These look stunning, I have been looking through some of your posts to see some of your lovely flowers.  The ones I have seen look amazing.  I am not entirely sure what I am doing with this forum and was struggling to find a way to reply to individual posts on a forum page, this  way seemed as good as any x.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on April 30, 2021, 03:29:26 AM

And one of the most interesting find of this spring: a plant with large, multi-white flowers which have a blue eye when opening.
The foliage falls in between americana and acutiloba, like it happened in other occasions, leading more and more to the belief of hybrids between the 2 species.
But I await to see the new foliage, maybe it is more distinct.


Interesting to see the picture. Was it mainly in an area with H. americana that you found this plant? I've heard that the two species aren't often found together, but have heard examples of populations being as close as 500 meters or so, which would not be an impossible distance for insect travel.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on April 30, 2021, 06:44:54 AM
Gabriela, your multipetals are really pretty!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: johnw on April 30, 2021, 01:42:26 PM
Love your palest white-blues. We got a few from your seed.

johnw
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 01, 2021, 02:20:42 AM
Interesting to see the picture. Was it mainly in an area with H. americana that you found this plant? I've heard that the two species aren't often found together, but have heard examples of populations being as close as 500 meters or so, which would not be an impossible distance for insect travel.

Yes Peppa, the plant was among a population of H. americana (mainly blue and purple) but there are H. acutiloba plants further away at the same locality (maybe more than 500 m away). It is not an area I visit often, given the distance to drive. That's why I speculated on the hybrid origin.
Indeed, is not often to find H. americana growing together with H. acutiloba, especially that they prefer slightly different growing conditions.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 01, 2021, 02:22:07 AM
Thanks Leena and John.
In both cases, is nature's work :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 01, 2021, 08:12:22 AM
And one of the most interesting find of this spring: a plant with large, multi-white flowers which have a blue eye when opening.
The foliage falls in between americana and acutiloba, like it happened in other occasions, leading more and more to the belief of hybrids between the 2 species.
But I await to see the new foliage, maybe it is more distinct.

Gabriela, indeed an interesting find. I am also curious for the new leaves. Hopefully you can show a picture of the new leaves later.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on May 01, 2021, 08:15:43 PM
I have grown several H. acutiloba from seeds from a wild collected source that my friend kindly sent to me several years ago and they are a very nice blue with a white edge. One year the new leaves of some of these seedlings came up looking more like H. americana (very rounded) and then the next year, they went back to sharp, pointed lobes. I have always suspected that this may be a naturally-occurring hybrid.

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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on May 01, 2021, 10:23:20 PM
Hepatica acutiloba flowering in the garden now.
The blue Hepatica acutiloba is a seedling and it has a nice bright colour.
Others are various shades of pink to white.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 01, 2021, 11:09:33 PM
Hepatica acutiloba flowering in the garden now.
The blue Hepatica acutiloba is a seedling and it has a nice bright colour.
Others are various shades of pink to white.
Kris, your acutiloba’s have beautiful colors, especially the pink one.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 01, 2021, 11:16:14 PM
I have grown several H. acutiloba from seeds from a wild collected source that my friend kindly sent to me several years ago and they are a very nice blue with a white edge. One year the new leaves of some of these seedlings came up looking more like H. americana (very rounded) and then the next year, they went back to sharp, pointed lobes. I have always suspected that this may be a naturally-occurring hybrid.

Peppa, have the leaf shapes become more stable with age?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 02, 2021, 01:01:33 AM
Gabriela, indeed an interesting find. I am also curious for the new leaves. Hopefully you can show a picture of the new leaves later.

I will have a picture at some point Herman but don't wait for it; it is a place where I usually visit only twice, spring and fall, because it is not nearby.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 02, 2021, 01:08:55 AM
Nice assortment of acutiloba colors Kris.

Peppa: I also noticed that sometimes the new foliage of young seedlings of H. acutiloba (usually 2 years old seedlings) can resemble those of H. americana. I think it is just a juvenile character.
Same for H. acutiloba fo. diversiloba - it takes a few years for the young plants to develop leaves with extra lobes.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on May 02, 2021, 03:16:24 AM
Nice assortment of acutiloba colors Kris.

Peppa: I also noticed that sometimes the new foliage of young seedlings of H. acutiloba (usually 2 years old seedlings) can resemble those of H. americana. I think it is just a juvenile character.
Same for H. acutiloba fo. diversiloba - it takes a few years for the young plants to develop leaves with extra lobes.

Yes, of course when young the leaves of H. acutiloba are not as pointed as they are when mature, but when I took these pictures, the plant was five years old and it was its second year to bloom. That was 2018. I have attached pictures I took today of the leaves of the same plant and, with the exception of two leaves that are quite rounded, the rest resemble acutiloba for the most part, although when compared to other H. acutiloba, they are not as sharp. This may be within the range in leaf variation of the species, but since I have seen this plant produce rounded leaves for several years (including this year), and none of the other several dozen acutiloba plants of similar age that I am currently growing do this, I am thinking that this is possibly not a pure acutiloba but is in fact a natural hybrid with americana.[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on May 02, 2021, 03:25:44 AM
Peppa, have the leaf shapes become more stable with age?

Herman, not entirely. It seems like the plant wants to be H. acutiloba, but it still can't quite decide completely!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 02, 2021, 07:21:41 AM
Herman, not entirely. It seems like the plant wants to be H. acutiloba, but it still can't quite decide completely!
Peppa, what about its offspring or is the plant sterile. You should expect that the leaves of the same plant to look alike or different seedlings have grown into each other.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Peppa on May 02, 2021, 08:20:41 AM
Peppa, what about its offspring or is the plant sterile. You should expect that the leaves of the same plant to look alike or different seedlings have grown into each other.

I self-pollinated this plant by hand and sowed the seeds several years ago and this spring one of the seedlings has bloomed. The interesting thing is that the flower is exactly like the parent (blue with white picotee) and two of the leaves look like H. americana. The other un-bloomed seedlings look similar.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 02, 2021, 08:24:30 AM
I self-pollinated this plant by hand and sowed the seeds several years ago and this spring one of the seedlings has bloomed. The interesting thing is that the flower is exactly like the parent (blue with white picotee) and two of the leaves look like H. americana. The other un-bloomed seedlings look similar.
Thank you Peppa, this is interesting to follow up.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 02, 2021, 05:15:52 PM
Some leaves from Hepatica x media:

Hepatica x media ‘Buis’ is sterile.

Hepatica x media 'Blue Jewel' is sterile.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carolyn on May 02, 2021, 10:09:00 PM
Herman,
My hepatica ‘Blue Jewel’ is labelled as transsylvanica, not x media. I don’t get seeds from mine, so I think I agree, it seems sterile. I googled ‘Blue Jewel’ and all the nurseries seem to label it as transsylvanica. So is it the species or a sterile hybrid?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 02, 2021, 10:59:46 PM
Herman,
My hepatica ‘Blue Jewel’ is labelled as transsylvanica, not x media. I don’t get seeds from mine, so I think I agree, it seems sterile. I googled ‘Blue Jewel’ and all the nurseries seem to label it as transsylvanica. So is it the species or a sterile hybrid?
Carolyn, the sterile ‘Blue Jewel’ is a crossing between nobilis and transsilvanica. That means Hepatica x media ‘Blue Jewel’

 See Ashwood Hepatica guide

Or https://shop.alpine-peters.de/produkt-kategorie/hepatica-leberbluemchen/zuechtungen/x-media/

Or http://www.flowercards.de/pdf/Hepatica%20-%20Leberbluemchen.pdf

Carolyn, I don’t know if all the nurseries online are talking about the same plant.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 03, 2021, 07:18:52 AM
Interesting discussion about H.acutiloba and also H.transsilvanica!
And beautiful pictures from Kris, your Hepaticas seem to get more sun than mine, and flower so well.
The first picture is H.acutiloba grown from Gabriela's seed.
The second plant is 'Blue Eyes', H.transsilvanica I think though I haven't seen seeds in it.
The last picture is how my unnamed H.transsilvanica (from a friend who bought it from Sweden) flowers look now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carolyn on May 03, 2021, 09:08:39 AM
Herman, thanks for the clarification about Blue Jewel - I should have thought of looking at Ashwood’s guide!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 03, 2021, 11:47:18 PM
Herman, not entirely. It seems like the plant wants to be H. acutiloba, but it still can't quite decide completely!

Peppa, it is interesting how the plant still forms a few leaves with rounded lobes, but your first images clearly show H. acutiloba type leaves and also acute calyx lobes of the flower. A plant can't change its genetic state from one year to another. It is an interesting phenomenon but hybrid plants (not only of Hepatica) will show intermediate characters of the parents on a constant base.

H. acutiloba seedlings from a locality where only H. acutiloba exists; even so, the seedlings can show great variability.
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Seedlings, ex. 'Purple Star' with narrower, long acuminate lobes (the mother plant shows this character).
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 03, 2021, 11:51:41 PM
Interesting discussion about H.acutiloba and also H.transsilvanica!
And beautiful pictures from Kris, your Hepaticas seem to get more sun than mine, and flower so well.
The first picture is H.acutiloba grown from Gabriela's seed.
The second plant is 'Blue Eyes', H.transsilvanica I think though I haven't seen seeds in it.
The last picture is how my unnamed H.transsilvanica (from a friend who bought it from Sweden) flowers look now.

Nice to see H. acutiloba flowering Leena.
I don't know about the Blue Eyes. Like Herman mentioned there is some confusion in the trades in regards with H. x media  and H. transsilvanica.
I also took few pictures but didn't get to post them.
H. x media ('Buis' most probably, but could be something else, sterile)
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H. x media 'Silberprinzessin'
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H. transsilvanica (ex. Kris I should add, there may be some variability depending on the clone)
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 04, 2021, 09:28:47 AM
Nice to see H. acutiloba flowering Leena.
I don't know about the Blue Eyes. Like Herman mentioned there is some confusion in the trades in regards with H. x media  and H. transsilvanica.
I also took few pictures but didn't get to post them.
H. x media ('Buis' most probably, but could be something else, sterile)

H. x media 'Silberprinzessin'

H. x transsilvanica (ex. Kris I should add, there may be some variability depending on the clone)

Gabriella, the last one indeed looks more transsilvanica and is not so compact. It seems even that there is a creeping rhizome or are they two plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on May 04, 2021, 03:46:34 PM
I managed to buy a Hepatica nobilis flora plena white at least this what I bought it as.

It took a bit of beating during transport and it was exiting to get a bottle of Rum in the post but it was a different content in the case :)

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Luckely I do not buy rum anymore so can enjoy the hepatica instead.


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It does not look perfect alba plena but had 3 flowers that has left all petals in the package of 2 of them.


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It is different from my other plants so hope it will enjoy life with me :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2021, 05:07:04 PM
Very nice, Joakim. :)

Thank you for the leaf pictures, everyone. I will take a picture of leaves of my H.transsilvanicas when they come.

Here is one more picture from the week-end. I have shown this H.pubescens already earlier, but  I checked that I had taken the first flower picture of it April 8th and this picture was taken May 2nd, and it is still flowering so it has  flowered almost a month. Not bad. :)
The second picture is the biggest white H.americana and the third picture pink H. x schlyteri.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 04, 2021, 05:13:35 PM
Very nice, Joakim. :)

Thank you for the leaf pictures, everyone. I will take a picture of leaves of my H.transsilvanicas when they come.

Here is one more picture from the week-end. I have shown this H.pubescens already earlier, but  I checked that I had taken the first flower picture of it April 8th and this picture was taken May 2nd, and it is still flowering so it has  flowered almost a month. Not bad. :)
The second picture is the biggest white H.americana and the third picture pink H. x schlyteri.
Leena, your pubescens is indeed a good flowering Hepatica!
H x schlyteri is gorgeous! Is it also sterile?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2021, 05:16:58 PM
Leena, your pubescens is indeed a good flowering Hepatica!
H x schlyteri is gorgeous!

Also the weather has been quite cool, so that is why flowering has lasted so well.
Pink H x schlyteri was bought from Ashwood in summer 2019, and last year it wasn't looking so good, but now I'm glad to see that it has started to grow well. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2021, 05:18:05 PM
H x schlyteri is gorgeous! Is it also sterile?

I don't know but last year it didn't have seeds.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 04, 2021, 08:53:30 PM
Very nice, Joakim. :)

Thank you for the leaf pictures, everyone. I will take a picture of leaves of my H.transsilvanicas when they come.
Here is one more picture from the week-end. I have shown this H.pubescens already earlier, but  I checked that I had taken the first flower picture of it April 8th and this picture was taken May 2nd, and it is still flowering so it has  flowered almost a month. Not bad. :)
The second picture is the biggest white H.americana and the third picture pink H. x schlyteri.

The on and off of cool weather has also prolonged the flowering of Hepaticas Leena; so all in all, not too bad comparing with other years.

Gabriella, the last one indeed looks more transsilvanica and is not so compact. It seems even that there is a creeping rhizome or are they two plants.

There are two young plants nearby Herman. The lobes are a bit too pointy, I will wait to see if they start spreading and if not, I shall change the label. The pictures with the transsilvanica shown by Kris are not really typical of the species, habit growing wise.

I looked for H. transsilvanica pictures from the wild for comparison. The first two images were taken in Râșnov,  Brașov county (Romania).
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This one is from Tâmpa Mountain, Brașov.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 05, 2021, 08:03:43 AM
The on and off of cool weather has also prolonged the flowering of Hepaticas Leena; so all in all, not too bad comparing with other years.

There are two young plants nearby Herman. The lobes are a bit too pointy, I will wait to see if they start spreading and if not, I shall change the label. The pictures with the transsilvanica shown by Kris are not really typical of the species, habit growing wise.

I looked for H. transsilvanica pictures from the wild for comparison. The first two images were taken in Râșnov,  Brașov county (Romania).

This one is from Tâmpa Mountain, Brașov.

Gabriela, when those transsilvanicas were in flower that must have been impressive!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 05, 2021, 08:09:18 AM
Some more leaves:

Hepatica transsilvanica ‘Alba’

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Karpatenkrone'

Hepatica transsilvanica ‘Rosea’

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Loddon Blue'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 05, 2021, 08:13:11 AM
Hepatica transsilvanica 'Sternenglanz'

Hepatica transsilvanica 'Winterfreude'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 06, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
I have just looked up about Hepatica transsilvanica 'Blue Eyes' it is a selection from the Netherlands, by Kees Huisman from the
old variety H. transsilvanica ’deBuis’, light blue with a darker center. 'Blue Eyes' is probably fertile.
H. transsilvanica 'deBuis' (selection, original from 1930, also under the name 'De Buis') is fertile, sometimes they talk about 'deBuis-strain' (or 'De Buis Strain'), seed raised plants from 'deBuis'.
H. x media 'Buis' is a crossing and sterile.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 06, 2021, 11:52:28 AM
Hepatica nobilis var. pyrenaica x japonica is ending flowering. Look at the leaves that are getting more sun, they are darker. All are divisions from one plant.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 08, 2021, 02:17:42 PM
Gabriela, when those transsilvanicas were in flower that must have been impressive!

We can only imagine Herman, I only cross the ocean in late summer, and not every year. I know the ones on Tampa Mountains they are mainly blue, but also H. x media can be present.

Nice overview of transsilvanica foliage. Here also plants are growing new foliage, and because of the cool weather some are still flowering; mainly maiden forms but also H. nobilis var. pyrenaica.

Here is my H. transs. 'Schwanensee' awaiting patiently in line to be planted.
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And my little 'Winterfreude' planted last fall (I had more seedlings).
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H. nobilis maiden form with marbled foliage
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And a maiden acutiloba (I used the brush to pollinate it at the beginning but now I run out of 'donors' :)
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I forgot to post the H. nobilis var. pyrenaica.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 09, 2021, 07:27:18 AM
I have just looked up about Hepatica transsilvanica 'Blue Eyes' it is a selection from the Netherlands, by Kees Huisman from the
old variety H. transsilvanica ’deBuis’, light blue with a darker center. 'Blue Eyes' is probably fertile.
H. transsilvanica 'deBuis' (selection, original from 1930, also under the name 'De Buis') is fertile, sometimes they talk about 'deBuis-strain' (or 'De Buis Strain'), seed raised plants from 'deBuis'.
H. x media 'Buis' is a crossing and sterile.

Herman, thank you for this information!
'Blue Eyes' is a good Hepatica for me, it flowers freely and flowers are good size. I will have to look more carefully for the seeds.

Gabriela, a very nice maiden H.acutiloba. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 09, 2021, 08:50:27 AM

And a maiden acutiloba (I used the brush to pollinate it at the beginning but now I run out of 'donors' :)

I forgot to post the H. nobilis var. pyrenaica.

Gabriela, nice maiden acutiloba with some good seeds! Pyrenaica has beautiful leaves!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 11, 2021, 07:18:47 AM
There are still some hepaticas flowering.
'Louise Kohler' just started a week ago.
These H.acutiloba plants are grown from Gabriela's seed and are in quite shady place, maybe that is why the late flowering.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 11, 2021, 07:28:00 AM
There are still some hepaticas flowering.
'Louise Kohler' just started a week ago.
These H.acutiloba plants are grown from Gabriela's seed and are in quite shady place, maybe that is why the late flowering.
Leena, nice Hepatica's!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gail on May 11, 2021, 10:06:26 PM
Not just hepatica but 1 minute 47 seconds well spent;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryUxrFUk6MY
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 11, 2021, 11:52:57 PM
Not just hepatica but 1 minute 47 seconds well spent;

Thanks Gail, a beautiful 'spring dance' video.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 12, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Gabriela, nice maiden acutiloba with some good seeds! Pyrenaica has beautiful leaves!

Thanks Herman. Actually I had a question I forgot to ask earlier in the spring: all H. nobilis var. pyrenaica plants have marbled leaves or just some?

There are still some hepaticas flowering.
'Louise Kohler' just started a week ago.
These H.acutiloba plants are grown from Gabriela's seed and are in quite shady place, maybe that is why the late flowering.

Hepaticas are really flowering for a long time this year Leena! In my garden I also have 2  H. acutiloba which grow with more shade still holding their flowers. It id incredible.
Seeds collecting will be crazy this year.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 12, 2021, 07:27:15 AM
Not just hepatica but 1 minute 47 seconds well spent;
Beautiful video Gail, thank you.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on May 12, 2021, 07:30:54 AM
Thanks Herman. Actually I had a question I forgot to ask earlier in the spring: all H. nobilis var. pyrenaica plants have marbled leaves or just some?

Gabriela, H. nob. var. pyrenaica is well known for it´s marbled leaves but there are other forms like plain green ones as well.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 12, 2021, 08:03:00 AM
Thanks Herman. Actually I had a question I forgot to ask earlier in the spring: all H. nobilis var. pyrenaica plants have marbled leaves or just some?

Hepaticas are really flowering for a long time this year Leena! In my garden I also have 2  H. acutiloba which grow with more shade still holding their flowers. It id incredible.
Seeds collecting will be crazy this year.
Gabriela, H. nobilis var. pyrenaica has indeed marbled leaves. Most people think if they have beautiful dark marbled leaves that it is pyrenaica. There are also nobilis with beautiful leaves but they have pink connective and pyrenaica has white till yellow connective. So there will be probably also variation in the color of the leaves of pyrenaica, but always with a pattern.
I have added different colors of leaves from our garden from H. nobilis var. pyrenaica (the conectives where right so surely not normal H. nobilis)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 12, 2021, 05:51:56 PM
Gabriela, H. nob. var. pyrenaica is well known for it´s marbled leaves but there are other forms like plain green ones as well.

Thank you Carsten. From a batch of var. pyrenaica seeds I got a couple of white flowered plants, with almost plain leaves. I never saw it growing in the wild to know the possible variations.
I guess people prefer the marbled leaves so they only show those.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 12, 2021, 05:57:47 PM
Gabriela, H. nobilis var. pyrenaica has indeed marbled leaves. Most people think if they have beautiful dark marbled leaves that it is pyrenaica. There are also nobilis with beautiful leaves but they have pink connective and pyrenaica has white till yellow connective. So there will be probably also variation in the color of the leaves of pyrenaica, but always with a pattern.
I have added different colors of leaves from our garden from H. nobilis var. pyrenaica (the conectives where right so surely not normal H. nobilis)

Thank you Herman. I know there are other forms of H. nobilis with marbled leaves and it would be indeed difficult to tell which ones are var. pyrenaica.
Besides the specimen I posted, I also have from another batch one like shown in your third picture (the leaf are smaller and more leathery); the connective are greenish to white in all (very much like in H. americana).
Plus the white flowered but with almost plain leaves.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gail on May 12, 2021, 06:17:18 PM
Last to flower here is a miniature H. falconeri (here dwarfed by Hepatica x schlyteri (Blue Marble Group) and H. maxima). Bought from Ashwoods in 2018 it has barely increased and I can only see one other flower bud to come - I think I probably should release it from its pot...
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on May 12, 2021, 07:11:55 PM
Nice foliage
My sister got a mixed 10 nobilis from Händel as a birthday present from me.
As it was after flowering time it was nice foliage instead.
Here they are after unpacking and quite a few nicely marbled

I will see if I can get some divisions from her in some years
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on May 12, 2021, 07:17:37 PM
I have been following this seedling for 2 years

First I saw the strange foliage but this year it is marbled and starange foliage
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on May 12, 2021, 07:19:31 PM
One of my plants looks a bit like maiden and was the only one that did not give seeds
Is it maiden?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 13, 2021, 07:54:53 AM
Nice foliage
My sister got a mixed 10 nobilis from Händel as a birthday present from me.
As it was after flowering time it was nice foliage instead.
Here they are after unpacking and quite a few nicely marbled

I will see if I can get some divisions from her in some years
Joakim, your sister is very lucky with such a brother!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 13, 2021, 08:01:17 AM
I have been following this seedling for 2 years

First I saw the strange foliage but this year it is marbled and starange foliage
Joakim, they are several seedlings close to each other. The  one with that weird leaf might be a cross. Now  waiting for a flower.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 13, 2021, 08:04:19 AM
One of my plants looks a bit like maiden and was the only one that did not give seeds
Is it maiden?
Joakim, I don’t see any  anthers, so it should be maiden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on May 13, 2021, 11:19:12 PM
Herman thanks for the inputs !
Herman my sister is lucky, but more for the nice foliage than the brother :)

I agree that there is a mix of seedlings. There might be crenotoloba genes in the one with funny foliage, could that be a possible reason for the form of foliage? I used to have a pot with interesting version, but the plant did not survive my mistreating it in a pot.
I think it will take a while to get the seedling to flower and then I presume if it is getting seeds it will not be a media hybrid.
Are hybrids common by just natural pollination? It was probably seeds that was in a pot rather than any plant that I planted

Herman I am happy to get it confirmed that it seems to be a maiden. Why is maiden forms interesting apart from that they can not self pollinate? Or are they not interesting. The plant had nice colour and flowered a bit later so that is enough to make it interesting for me.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 14, 2021, 09:13:18 AM
Herman thanks for the inputs !
Herman my sister is lucky, but more for the nice foliage than the brother :)

I agree that there is a mix of seedlings. There might be crenotoloba genes in the one with funny foliage, could that be a possible reason for the form of foliage? I used to have a pot with interesting version, but the plant did not survive my mistreating it in a pot.
I think it will take a while to get the seedling to flower and then I presume if it is getting seeds it will not be a media hybrid.
Are hybrids common by just natural pollination? It was probably seeds that was in a pot rather than any plant that I planted

Herman I am happy to get it confirmed that it seems to be a maiden. Why is maiden forms interesting apart from that they can not self pollinate? Or are they not interesting. The plant had nice colour and flowered a bit later so that is enough to make it interesting for me.
Joakim, maiden forms bloom longer because fertilization is more difficult. They are interesting for crossings. You don't have to remove stamens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: johnw on May 14, 2021, 11:57:59 PM
A lovel marked leaf fiorm of H. nobilis that Ken grew from Gabriela's incredible seed.

Yesterday I couldn't help but notice how H. 'Millstream Merlin' was still giving a fine show with its few flowers and foliage.

john
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 15, 2021, 07:21:21 AM
A lovel marked leaf fiorm of H. nobilis that Ken grew from Gabriela's incredible seed.

Yesterday I couldn't help but notice how H. 'Millstream Merlin' was still giving a fine show with its few flowers and foliage.

john
Lovely Hepatica's John. Here it is the same with H. 'Millstream Merlin'.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on May 15, 2021, 12:27:25 PM
A lovel marked leaf fiorm of H. nobilis that Ken grew from Gabriela's incredible seed.

Yesterday I couldn't help but notice how H. 'Millstream Merlin' was still giving a fine show with its few flowers and foliage.

john
That is a nice leaf pattern.
I got a pleasant surprise 2days ago. Saw a Hepatica seedling flowering with one flower. When I looked at the label it was from Gabrielas seed.Thanks Gabriela.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on May 15, 2021, 02:19:51 PM
That is a nice leaf pattern.
I got a pleasant surprise 2days ago. Saw a Hepatica seedling flowering with one flower. When I looked at the label it was from Gabrielas seed.Thanks Gabriela.
Kris, it is indeed a pleasant surprise!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 15, 2021, 05:01:04 PM
Also here 'Millstream Merlin' still has flowers (all three of them, it was planted last year).

The latest Hepaticas here are 'Louise Kohler' and surprisingly H.americana from Gabriela's seeds started to flower later than our own H.nobilis.
These were first time flowering and almost every plant was subtly different. Among were two multipetal plants, another white and another blue. What luck!
Pictures are from three days ago but there are still some flowers in them. :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 16, 2021, 07:18:12 PM
A lovel marked leaf fiorm of H. nobilis that Ken grew from Gabriela's incredible seed.

Yesterday I couldn't help but notice how H. 'Millstream Merlin' was still giving a fine show with its few flowers and foliage.
john

So you kept it secret about having the 'Millstream Merlin' John!
The first picture it is for sure H. nobilis var. pyrenaica; I remember sending you few plants a few years ago but not precisely what.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 16, 2021, 07:20:18 PM
That is a nice leaf pattern.
I got a pleasant surprise 2days ago. Saw a Hepatica seedling flowering with one flower. When I looked at the label it was from Gabrielas seed.Thanks Gabriela.

Nice Kris, and you were complaining about not being able to grow H. americana :)

Also here 'Millstream Merlin' still has flowers (all three of them, it was planted last year).

The latest Hepaticas here are 'Louise Kohler' and surprisingly H.americana from Gabriela's seeds started to flower later than our own H.nobilis.
These were first time flowering and almost every plant was subtly different. Among were two multipetal plants, another white and another blue. What luck!
Pictures are from three days ago but there are still some flowers in them. :)

Stunning Leena! I am very happy you obtain these very beautiful specimens.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on May 17, 2021, 09:15:51 AM
Gabriela, I couldn't be more happy with them!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Joakim B on May 17, 2021, 05:50:04 PM
Nice to see great success with seeds giving rise to flowering plants

I am now trying to figure out where to plant my hepaticas
The present place has been extended further out in the "grass"
The photo is looking straight south and in the east it is huge conifers giving morning shade.
Sun is there only in the afternoon.
The further away from the hedge the more of the sun it will get.
Is it so that transsylvanica likes sun more than nobilis? in that case I will by having transsylvanicas furthest away from the hedge.
Is it so that either of the two are more prone to get problems with draught? If so then they should be planted further away from the conifers.
I placed the seedlings in between the conifers and the hedge so they get almost constant dappled light only
The Cat Pixel is guarding against any diggers
The crown jewels are my double nobilis and two named transsylvanicas so those 4 must get a good spot and the rest will get as good as possible.
So far I had nobilis further away from the conifer and the nobilis are doing well. Should I mix the plants by colour or subspieces?
How have You done? How would You plant if you were me?  Have in mind that I am playing with 3 square meters.

Thanks for input
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 19, 2021, 08:18:24 PM
Joakim, many times there has been mention of the fact that Hepatica (all species) needs shaded locations! especially in regards with the afternoon sun.
I also shown pictures with H. transsilvanica in the habitat, growing in dense shade after trees leaved out.

The only time when they enjoy the sun is in early spring when they flower.
So, I have nothing else to add but wish you good luck.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on June 29, 2021, 07:51:52 PM
Even if this is a flowery time of the year, I thought that it may be useful to also show Hepaticas during the summer. We mostly post sun drenched spring pictures when they flower and some people may get a wrong impression regarding their growing requirements.

Mainly H. acutiloba, plus a H. nobilis fo. crenatuloba (maiden form) growing under a Carya tree, there is also a Calycanthus floridus nearby. Other species growing in the same spot are Galanthus and Viola odorata fo. alba, plus few ferns.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on June 29, 2021, 10:06:28 PM
Gabriela, you are right! Hepatica's can have nice leaves in the summer in the shade. The crenatuloba form looks beautiful. He looks a bit like 'Cremar'.
Here, the seedlings that have chosen a sunnier place have their leaves damaged by the sun and heat (dehydratation).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on June 30, 2021, 07:31:05 AM
Gabriela, your plants look so fresh an healthy. Very nice looking leaf forms!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on June 30, 2021, 08:55:26 PM
Thanks Herman and Leena.
Yes, I also think the marbled one looks like Cremar, but who knows, it was a stray seedling from a batch of some H. nobilis.

I water during very dry periods and is a narrow bed so unfortunately I cannot plant more. Because I plant dense, I cannot see how I will keep all plants when they grow more.
I already have (in another narrow bed) H. acutiloba fo. rosea which is in need of more soil badly. The flowers were smaller than usual this spring.
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One needs to be inventive to create more suitable spaces for Hepatica I think. For ex. I am trying H. nobilis var. pyrenaica beneath a large Helleborus :)
In early spring I have to cut some of the leaves anyway, so more light is allowed in that spot (plus the sun has a different inclination).
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 01, 2021, 06:51:48 PM
Gabriela, I always cut the leaves of my Helleborus in September.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Jeffnz on July 01, 2021, 09:01:55 PM
I remove all leaves when the flowerer spikes start to develop. helps reduce fungus disease, and to achieve a better flower display especially for plants that have a reduced stalk length. In out r climate hellebores do remain in leaf all year round.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:03:48 PM
Here are some pictures from places were I grow Hepatica. You know that in the names of my pictures are always a letter code referring to parts in the garden. So welcome in our garden. Now all the hedges have been trimmed. The shrubs are giving shade in the summer.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:10:59 PM
Not only Hepatica, but also Trillium, Cyclamen, Erythronium, Galanthus, Roscoea....
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:19:41 PM
Here Cornus florida ‘Rainbow’ died for a part because of a few dry summers. So a part of the Hepatica's get more sun as you can see on the leaves, but they recover in the spring (till now). 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:23:32 PM
The Hepatica leaves stay better with more shade.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:27:06 PM
Another garden in the garden (OBW). So you always need to go around to see and discover everything.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:30:42 PM
Going further to another part.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:32:52 PM
So there is still enough place for new Hepatica's.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:40:31 PM
There is always shade on this side of our house in the afternoon, there it is always cooler in the summer. So also good for Hepatica.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:43:29 PM
You can also always enjoy the shade of the trees of your neighbor.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
Conifers can also provide shade. Here are also a lot of bulbs and Cyclamen. Behind the wooden screen is a greenhouse.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: kris on July 04, 2021, 03:23:53 PM
Spectacular garden Herman!!! I wish I have space like yours to try all sorts of plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 03:32:29 PM
Spectacular garden Herman!!! I wish I have space like yours to try all sorts of plants.
Thank you Kris.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
To complete I add some pictures of other parts.
Frontgarden with tufa rocks.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 04, 2021, 03:38:56 PM
Also some parts with lava rocks. More information: http://www.gentians.be/index.php?page=intro
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on July 04, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Herman thanks for showing pictures of your garden. It is so big and all in order:). And places for different kinds of plants.
It is nice that you have still lots of shade places for Hepaticas like you wrote.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: David Nicholson on July 04, 2021, 06:10:47 PM
Beautiful garden Herman, you must be very proud of it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on July 04, 2021, 08:17:34 PM
Herman and Jeff - I usually cut my Helleborus leaves gradually. I don't remove them all in the fall because they provide nice decor until it starts snowing in serious quantity.
Most years I remove some of them in late Dec.-January, and the rest only in very early spring.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on July 04, 2021, 08:19:22 PM
Herman - you have a very beautiful and large garden!
There is indeed quite a bit of space left for more Hepaticas :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carsten on July 04, 2021, 08:51:47 PM
Very impressive garden, Herman!! Thanks for sharing :-)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 05, 2021, 08:00:29 AM
Thank you all, but on a picture everything looks bigger than in reality. A garden grows with the years. This is the result from 35 years work and collecting plants for 40 years. Now the accent is more on maintaining the garden and completing the plant collection.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 06, 2021, 08:12:42 AM
Hepatica nobilis var. insularis stands in the shade of a hedge. Only one of the 3 plants survived, but I hope that seedlings will appear and that ants have done their job.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on July 11, 2021, 09:04:13 PM
Hepatica nobilis var. insularis stands in the shade of a hedge. Only one of the 3 plants survived, but I hope that seedlings will appear and that ants have done their job.

The clump looks quite healthy Herman and it seems that the foliage retains the marbling very well in the summer.
I think Hepatica insularis stands as species by itself being an endemic from Korea.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 12, 2021, 08:27:25 AM
The clump looks quite healthy Herman and it seems that the foliage retains the marbling very well in the summer.
I think Hepatica insularis stands as species by itself being an endemic from Korea.
Gabriela, insularis is indeed endemic to Korea.
More specific: the southern coastal regions of the Korean Peninsula, the island of Cheju-do and other
offshore islands.
Insularis has indeed beautiful foliage.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on July 13, 2021, 12:59:20 AM
Gabriela, insularis is indeed endemic to Korea.
More specific: the southern coastal regions of the Korean Peninsula, the island of Cheju-do and other
offshore islands.
Insularis has indeed beautiful foliage.

We can assume then that it enjoys high humidity in the atmosphere, maybe you can install a small waterfall nearby :)
There is a place with a large waterfall surrounded by woodlands we visit once in a while and Hepatica acutiloba foliage always looks so fresh and beautiful there, even during the very dry and hot summers.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 13, 2021, 08:08:24 AM
Gabriela, you may be right. In the tufa rockpart (Garden 34b (T)) I have created two small rivers also one in the lava (Garden 48 (L)). This is to increase the humidity for alpine plants in the stones. It never occurred to me to plant Hepatica's near the water. I can try some new Hepatica seedlings in the future nearby the water. At the end in picture Garden 42 (LRV&V) there is a pond also a place to try.
Ferns also like places like this, because I have to remove them a lot.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on July 13, 2021, 09:57:27 PM
It seems you already have good spots to try Herman! From our species, H. acutiloba would like for sure more moisture around the foliage.
I wouldn't try with H. americana which surely likes to grow on the drier side.
It is a reason why so very rare the both species are found growing together in a location, and even when it happens they are never close one to another.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on July 14, 2021, 09:18:42 AM
Thank you Gabriela, I will try H. acutiloba near the water.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on September 12, 2021, 09:33:16 PM
With the fall arrival the Hepaticas are starting to attract attention again :) I also noticed swollen buds on the few potted plants.

Hepatica americana with Maianthemum racemosum in the woods. They are looking much better than the ones in  my garden.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 13, 2021, 07:54:43 AM
With the fall arrival the Hepaticas are starting to attract attention again :) I also noticed swollen buds on the few potted plants.

Hepatica americana with Maianthemum racemosum in the woods. They are looking much better than the ones in  my garden.
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Gabriela, the hepatica leaves look nice. Here many leaves have already withered, but flower buds are already visible.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 14, 2021, 03:59:34 PM
Hepatica nobilis or americana?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on September 17, 2021, 07:59:24 PM
Hepatica nobilis or americana?

You are asking an impossible question Herman!
Nothing to do but wait and check the flowers anthers in the spring.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 17, 2021, 10:45:08 PM
You are asking an impossible question Herman!
Nothing to do but wait and check the flowers anthers in the spring.
Gabriela thank you for your opinion.
Gabriela, this are the leaves from the Hepatica americana 'Rosea' at this moment. I have this plant from seeds from a friend. He says: origin 1990 of Kitty Pittman, grew up with her in the forest in America for 20 years. But the connective is pink. So I changed the name in Hepatica nobilis 'Rosea'.
I don't know if Kitty Pittman has nobilis and americana in her forest.
The second picture is also named Hepatica americana 'Rosea' from a nursery in the Netherlands, but it has also pink connective.
Probably in Europe most Hepatica americana 'Rosea' are of the same origin somewhere and should they all called H. nobilis 'Rosea'.
I posted the photo of the leaves again to hear some reactions.
It seems that very few people on this forum think more deeply about the correctness of a Hepatica name.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on September 19, 2021, 12:01:27 AM
Ah, I remember about these plants Herman, you showed them in the spring.

You know my opinion, not H. americana. I've seen hundreds specimens in the wild by now and none had colorful connectives.
It could also be a hybrid. Once in the trade under a name, it is very hard to make people change their labels. And some actually don't care about the labels.

You notice that even in this forum there aren't that many people interested in Hepatica actually. Due to the fact that they flower shortly in the spring, are small in size and don't have very large flowers, probably do not make them very interesting plants for many.

One has to have a special, innate inclination for Hepaticas :))
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: ashley on September 19, 2021, 09:12:59 AM
It seems that very few people on this forum think more deeply about the correctness of a Hepatica name.

You notice that even in this forum there aren't that many people interested in Hepatica actually. Due to the fact that they flower shortly in the spring, are small in size and don't have very large flowers, probably do not make them very interesting plants for many.

One has to have a special, innate inclination for Hepaticas :))

Please don't mistake silence for lack of interest.  I love this thread but prefer to lurk & learn :), as probably others do too.
So thank you both for posting lovely plants and discussing what they are.  I for one particularly enjoy seeing the plants in the wild and their variability.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on September 19, 2021, 09:46:56 AM
You notice that even in this forum there aren't that many people interested in Hepatica actually. Due to the fact that they flower shortly in the spring, are small in size and don't have very large flowers, probably do not make them very interesting plants for many.

One has to have a special, innate inclination for Hepaticas :))

  :o
As I write this, 32,805 people have read these pages for Hepaticas 2021 - that seems a pretty good level of  interest  to me!  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 19, 2021, 01:43:33 PM

  :o
As I write this, 32,805 people have read these pages for Hepaticas 2021 - that seems a pretty good level of  interest  to me!  :D
Maggi, indeed a lot of views. But I think that it is about a few people who always are looking back at this topic (I do this). The number of people posting photos or text on this topic had been decreasing in recent years. Sometimes  I reread the other years of the Hepatica’s and dream again about the new flowering season.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on September 19, 2021, 09:07:36 PM
Ashley and Maggi: what I was trying to say was that not that many people in the forum have an inclination of the heart, if I can call it like this, for Hepatica.

At least, not in the same amount like for other groups of plants, like: various bulbs and Galanthus to mention just two of them. Of course that many people, including not from the forum, are clicking on this thread and maybe find things to learn which is a good thing.

It was an observation and I stand by it, please don't 'shoot the messenger'. Even in the spring we can count on ten fingers the people posting here. It is fine with me, I don't understand the reaction actually.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on September 20, 2021, 09:52:15 AM
Hepatica threads are so informative, I read them many times over and over:). And admire the pictures when waiting for the new  flowers and spring.
I think actually Hepaticas flower quite long in the spring, comparing for instance with some peonies which may flower only a few days. Hepaticas may flower a few weeks if the weather stays cool.
I'm so happy that I have been able to grow them from seeds and also for all the plants I have got from somewhere else.

Also here Hepatica buds are swelling, some more than others, and always in the autumn I fear that winter will be too cold for them (especially H.japonicas) when they are so exposed above ground, but so far all have survived. I guess it is more the too much wet that is more damaging them than cold.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on November 06, 2021, 05:19:11 PM
I am a bit worried when some Hepatica leaves have turned red, especially H.japonica in the first picture.
I know that for instance last winter one of my native pink H.nobilis had red leaves with no harm to the plant, but I wonder what causes this?

Then some pictures of Hepatica seedlings. In the third picture there is H.americana  on top and H.acutiloba below, and all the latter plants have this kind of variegated leaves now.
In the last picture there are H.acutiloba plants, and one on the top right is even totally red in leaves..
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Carolyn on November 06, 2021, 07:05:42 PM
Leena,
Could it be that the hepatica leaves had too much sun this summer? I noticed leaves on some of mine turning red and moved the pots into total shade on the north side of our house. The UV levels seemed very high this summer, certainly in Scotland.
The seeds which you sent me have provided me with nice plants with healthy looking buds for next spring. Thank you!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Herman Mylemans on November 07, 2021, 08:39:14 AM
Leena, nice to see some Hepatica's.
The color of the leaves probably has to do with the weather, just like Carolyn says.
So you can keep Hepatica japonica alive outdoors! Here they always disappear after a few years.
In the garden the Hepatica buds are swelling and getting ready for spring, but winter is yet to come.
It certainly has to wait until the end of January to see some flowers. But we're looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on November 07, 2021, 09:15:55 AM
Thanks Carolyn and Herman:).
These plants grow under an apple tree so they get mostly shade, but maybe also some sun, when there are no leaves in trees.
It is good to hear that it may not be bad, and after next year, I know more how the same plants react later.

Herman, I have grown the first H.japonica from seeds and they have been outside since 2015, so that is now six years.
In spring 2019 I planted named cultivars and they are mostly doing very well so far, but that is now only three years experience. Some disappeared the first winter, so it was probably my fault more than plants. I am still learning to grow these plants.

Carolyn, I'm so happy the seeds germinated and grew well, and I hope there is some variation in blue and pink flowers :).

Hepatica buds are also here now big, and I fear for them when they are so exposed to the weather, but so far the buds have gone through winters undamaged.
It will be nice to see your Hepatica flowers in January and February when mine are still under snow (hopefully).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on November 12, 2021, 11:28:49 PM
Leena: it seems that the more sun the Hepatica plants are getting, the more chances are for the leaves to turn reddish or marbled.
At least speaking about H. americana and H. acutiloba. In H. acutiloba some plants can get completely reddish leaves, especially when the weather turns cold.
Even the seedlings will show this character, like the seedlings from 'Purple Star' (also on the back side the leaves are purplish).
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H. acutiloba fo. rosea also is getting more marbled with more light exposure. I divided two large clumps in late summer and with this occasion replanted it in a spot with more light. In deep shade the leaves will remain green.
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But it must be also a genetic factor involved, because in the wild populations, for the same sun exposure, some plants keep their leaves green while others get marbled. I don't have many pictures of this year, but see few H. americana. First is the #1 which always gets colorful, others are in the same location, one perfectly green and one with colored leaves.
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It also seems that the anthocyans responsible for the color may also have a role in protection against low temperatures in some plants. They are only produced toward late summer and are formed depending on the breakdown of sugars in the presence of light (which also leads to the trees fall red leaves, although there are other pigments involved as well). So, all in all, there is nothing to be worried about.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on November 13, 2021, 04:11:10 PM
It also seems that the anthocyans responsible for the color may also have a role in protection against low temperatures in some plants. They are only produced toward late summer and are formed depending on the breakdown of sugars in the presence of light (which also leads to the trees fall red leaves, although there are other pigments involved as well). So, all in all, there is nothing to be worried about.

Thank you Gabriela, that makes sense! I will have to make a note to myself which plants are more marbled or red leaves now, and then compare next autumn.
I think there are couple of H.americana which have more red leaves than the others. And 'Millstream Merlin' has now also redder leaves.
I also noticed today that 'Louise Kohler' has quite red leaves now. Most of my native H.nobilis have green leaves.
Here are two H.acutiloba plants growing close to each other and the other ones is stronger marbled than the other one.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: mellifera on November 17, 2021, 09:41:22 PM
An early first tiny flower. Not the most beautiful one. I think  there will come better flowers from H. jap. 'Yumengokoti'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on December 09, 2021, 10:25:29 PM
We'll have to wait till spring for the first Hepatica flowers here but it is most enjoyable to dream about them until then :)

I moved few H. americana in a new location and they seem to enjoy the place. H. americana is a bit more fussy than H. acutiloba when it comes to garden cultivation.
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H. transsilvanica 'Winterfreude' at the beginning of Dec. I cannot wait to see it flowering; raised from seeds so I don't know if it will be really true to name.
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And H. x media 'Silberprinzessin' with a dust of snow; it flowered last spring but I got to enjoy one flower for one day before being eaten by a rabbit/or chipmunk, hard to say.
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on December 10, 2021, 09:49:51 AM
H. americana is a bit more fussy than H. acutiloba when it comes to garden cultivation.

What do you think it requires more than H.acutiloba?
A wonderful picture with autumn leaves around green Hepaticas!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on December 10, 2021, 11:28:43 PM
What do you think it requires more than H.acutiloba?
A wonderful picture with autumn leaves around green Hepaticas!

It is not 'more' Leena, it is just that it is not as 'flexible' as H. acutiloba when it comes to location.  They will live in almost any part-shaded spot but not really thrive unless they get enough sunlight in the spring. I mean they really like to bask in the sun in the spring; then shade is necessary after flowering.
So, planting under deciduous trees (or large shrubs) I would say is a must for them to thrive and flower well; slightly acidic substrate with good drainage also required. Even in the new spot I made for them there is a bit too much sun in late summer at noon, so I planted few Thalictrum dioicum between them to provide extra shade.

H. acutiloba can be grown with more shade year long and will do OK; super good drainage is also not that important. Actually even in the wild, it grows in deciduous AND mixed woods, while H. americana I only found in deciduous forests (not counting a Pinus strobus here and there).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Leena on December 11, 2021, 05:34:29 PM
Thank you Gabriela:). I hope mine are alive and flowering in the spring. They are all under deciduos trees.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Gabriela on December 12, 2021, 12:18:06 AM
You obtained very beautiful H. americana plants Leena :) I am sure they will increase well in your garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Starking007 on January 04, 2022, 12:29:45 PM
Dear Hepatica friends!

I'm sitting here as a pensioner in Bavaria in the pouring rain,
waiting for the Hepaticas to bloom and my motorcycles to run!
I'm almost done with tearing off leaves, and there are always some shoots tearing off with me, I stick them, they grow even without roots. All shoots look good. One has already raised a bud, that will be a filled one. I "only" have nobilis.
In 2022 I would like to post a little more pictures here again, I'm excited to see my new ones from friends or found ones.
But I don't have any labels anywhere! When the rain subsides, the first picture comes!
Greetings Arthur

Title: Re: Hepatica 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on January 09, 2022, 02:31:23 PM
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