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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2011, 11:28:31 PM »
Ladies & Gents!
Many thanks I expected this reply... ::)

For me N. xxx lobularis of trade (=The Lent Lily) and N. obvallaris (=The Tenby Daffodil) remain still two different species...
I support Narcissus pseudonarcissus f. lobularis (Haw.) Voss is a (obsolete) synonym of Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. pseudonarcissus

I found also in Plantago:
Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. major=
Auteurs:   (Curtis) Baker
Synoniemen:   Narcissus confusus Pugsley, Narcissus hispanicus Gouan, Narcissus major Curtis, Narcissus maximus Hort.

Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. obvallaris=
Auteurs:   (Salisb.) A.Fern.
Synoniemen:   Narcissus obvallaris Salisb., Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. lobularis

Narcissus pseudonarcissus=
Auteurs:   L.
Synoniem:   Narcissus lobularis

Confused?  ;D
Armin - according to Blanchard a synonym for N.obvallaris Salisb is N. lobularius Schultes not N. lobularis. However Kew does not recognise the existence of the  name N. lobularius .
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2011, 08:57:16 AM »
Thanks Gerry for the explanation of the fine difference! :D

David,
to take any (hidden) doubts away from you...  ???
Your plant is Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. pseudonarcissus. ;) ;D
Excellent for use in the garden.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2011, 09:14:24 AM »
Armin, I just call it my nice looking little Daff. ;D
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2011, 10:50:06 AM »
My first Nacissus opened with the last two days of sun.  Just Love It!  ;D ;D ;D  Spring is really here.  The fotos are only OK, but, in my jubilance, it's all the same to me.

Phalarope
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2011, 01:59:24 PM »
I like the colour combination of Phalarope

here is Mitzy that has now changed from yellow to almost white
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2011, 10:11:51 PM »
Narcissus obesus x triand, thanks Anne
Way ahead of mine, Michael. Nice to see my babies enjoying their new homes!
Your Mitzy is very distinct from my Snipe, Mark. Very pretty.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2011, 10:46:01 PM »
Anne no pollen for you. They either have no pollen or shed their pollen during the recent bad weather
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2011, 08:54:29 AM »
Some Narcissus are flowering here now:

the first one is Narcissus 'Tête à Tête'
the second one might be is 'Jetfire' (I'm not sure, though) (Thanks Jamie) and of the third one I don't remember the name is Narcissus 'Ice Follies' (Thanks Anne).
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2011, 09:27:24 AM »
Yeah, that's Jetfire for sure.  That last is in my garden, as well.  Forgot it's name, but it does occaisionally have a filled cup.  Along with Tête à Tête and Phalarope, these are the first to bloom with me every year.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2011, 09:52:53 AM »
Yeah, that's Jetfire for sure.  That last is in my garden, as well.  Forgot it's name, but it does occaisionally have a filled cup.  Along with Tête à Tête and Phalarope, these are the first to bloom with me every year.

Thanks for confirming the ID of Jetfire, Jamie.
The last one is always the first of the cultivars with large flowers to flower here.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2011, 02:46:21 PM »
I think it might be Ice Follies.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2011, 03:14:18 PM »
I think it might be Ice Follies.

Anne,

I think your right. The name certainly rings a bell and it very much looks like that cultivar. Thanks for the determination.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2011, 07:13:15 PM »
A couple of mine from today:-

Firstly Narcissus 'Jim Lad' from Anne's List. Maybe my example is a little etiolated, stem about 20cm high, as a result of being situated in a shady part of the greenhouse.

The second is N. fernandesii var. cordubenis from Tony Willis who, I think, grew it from seed he collected in Grazalema, Spain.

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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2011, 09:16:42 PM »
Very nice, David. Jim Lad will get that tall in a greenhouse sometimes, especially if light levels are low. Ones outside in a trough are flowering at about 5cm high.
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Re: March Narcissus 2011
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2011, 09:35:36 PM »
Many thanks Anne, it really is a cracker. I'll leave it in the greenhouse for another year and then it will go in a choice spot in the garden.
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