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Joakim B

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Iris and some Irids 2009
« on: March 11, 2009, 12:06:27 PM »
Here is a iris xipnium xiphium from the Ajuda botanical garden in Lisbon.
It looks a bit like the Dutch ones one get in a bag but then it is the parent of them so no wonder.
Please let me know if You disagree regarding the naming.
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« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 01:25:15 PM by Joakim B »
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 12:52:14 PM »
Joakim, I think you meant to write Iris xiphium     :D
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 01:22:54 PM »
Well actually no Maggi ::) :-[
Here is the label so now You know why I was wrong
One needs to be careful where the hole is to get the whole name.
I did not check and it fellt a bit unusual with pn but then I am no expert.
I will fix the names and the picnames
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 01:27:39 PM »
Well, that was a real way to confuse the viewers!  No fault of your typing then, Joakim!  ;D
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 08:42:25 PM »
I think this one will be a cultivar of I. xiphium Joakim. The wild species would be blue, so this is, in fact, one of the Dutch irises you mention. Unless of course, it varies to that extent in the wild but I've never heard that it does.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 08:51:01 PM »
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 09:00:11 PM »
Lesley, just been looking at what BM has to say on Iris xiphium in 'The Iris'

".........The one or two flowers are usually blue or violet in the wild forms, with an orange or yellow median blotch on the falls but they are sometimes wholly yellow or rarely white"

"Not surprisingly, with such a wide area of distribution there is a lot of variation and names have been attached to some of these variants as follows:- 'Battandieri' a white form with an orange ridge on the falls"

I have to say though when I first saw Joakim's pic I thought 'Dutch Iris'
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 10:38:37 PM »
You did here me thinking that so I am not sure what it is. (Hybrid)
Can be an unusual one that also have been introduced into the trade and there assumed to be a hybrid?
The normal blue and the yellow lusitanica might result in something like this?
They can also have bought a cheap pack and hoped for it to be the real deal.
I do not know.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 03:34:07 AM »
Which posts still lead me to think your pic Joakim, is not quite the species. The PBS pic of xiphium v. lusitanica is wholly yellow and I have seen this in gardens but yours has that Dutch look about it and the colouring seems to support that. However, it's probably splitting hairs to be pedantic about it, except that in a botanical garden one would like material to be accurately named. (It certainly is NOT always the case here in Dunedin. Good garden but some names are way out, especially of Arisaemas.)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2009, 11:04:21 AM »
Iris attica KV 274

Note: interesting video
« Last Edit: March 12, 2009, 11:10:54 AM by Rafa »

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 11:19:45 AM »
OOH! Rafa! the colours, the details!  8) 8) 8)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 11:55:56 AM »
Rafa, you have made my day, SUPERB PHOTOS!!!
and thanks for tha attachment of the video, it is amazing to see all these color forms.

Do you grow this Sp in pots or in the garden?
« Last Edit: March 12, 2009, 01:02:39 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2009, 12:43:20 PM »
Wonderful, Rafa.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 01:51:48 PM »
Rafa thanks for sharing this great pics of this breathtaking plants! :D
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 02:19:20 PM »
Truly brilliant attica Rafa !!  :o :o Like paintings !  ;D
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